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Why are Sunnis more prone to aggression?

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Other sects don't have wahhabism and wahabis acting as their spiritual leaders, and alot of Sunnis get taught to hate Shi'ites (+other sects too maybe) so that's a cause and motivation for the illiterate and ignorant to go for "jihad" and fight the non existent infidels in areas like Syria and Iraq.

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When you follow an oppressed you can not be an oppressor. The love of Imam Hussain (a.s) and Karbala softens our hearts and we can not be tyrant and aggressive towards others. The love of oppressors makes you an oppressor, tyrant and merciless. When there is love of Muawvia (l.a) and Yazeed (l.a) in your heart how you will escape their bad effects? They follow Muawvia (l.a) and Yazeed (l.a) hence they are rightly oppressors and tyrants.

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52 minutes ago, Aabiss_Shakari said:

When you follow an oppressed you can not be an oppressor. The love of Imam Hussain (a.s) and Karbala softens our hearts and we can not be tyrant and aggressive towards others. The love of oppressors makes you an oppressor, tyrant and merciless. When there is love of Muawvia (l.a) and Yazeed (l.a) in your heart how you will escape their bad effects? They follow Muawvia (l.a) and Yazeed (l.a) hence they are rightly oppressors and tyrants.

Agreed. Although the sunni reply to this is 'why are you shia's supporting the dictator bashar al assad who is slaughtering in the hundreds of thousands with barrel bombs'.

 

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Just now, Tawheed313 said:

Agreed. Although the sunni reply to this is 'why are you shia's supporting the dictator bashar al assad who is slaughtering in the hundreds of thousands with barrel bombs'.

 

This is a political question. This is harsh fact that rebellion in Syria is foreign funded. But i can counter question what a political situation/question has to do with general aggressive or intolerant attitude of a community. Did the army of Syria or Hizbullah slaughter the rebels in the way Al-Qaida linked Al-Nusra or ISIS did? Even Yemen's Houthis are blamed to be rebels but still can you show a single video of Houthi tribes slaughtering or beheading or killing by fire any of their enemies? The OP wanted to know about general aggressive and intolerant attitude of Wahabis/Salafis and i mentioned one of the reason of it. My view can be wrong...

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1 hour ago, ChristianVisitor said:

I've always wondered why Sunnis are more prone to aggressive acts compared to Muslims of other sects. I'm not saying all Sunnis are but most of the people who join Isis or support the radical Salafis are from Sunni background. Why is that so?

I wouldn't generalise like this, but i would have to say, salafi islam in particular is a culprit. 

Here's what Ibn Taymiyyah says about the 'rafidha' (i.e shias i.e us on shiachat):

Shaikh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said about the Raafidah, “They are more evil than most of the people of desires, and they are more deserving of being killed than the Khawaarij.” [Refer to Majmoo’ul-Fataawaa (28/482) of Ibn Taymiyyah]

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Keep in mind that terrorism in the Middle East is not just motivated by religious extremism, but it was also engendered by colonialism, neo-imperialism, proxy wars, authoritarian governments and poor standards of living. The region is going through a tough time, and that is likely to continue for the years to come, but it was not always that way. Some are surprised to hear that the pre-modern Middle East had far fewer armed conflicts than Europe between the 7th and 20th century. Even in World War 2, amid the 60 million casualties in Europe, the Mideast was doing quite well. So the characterization that Sunni Islam is particularly violent is not the full picture.

However, it is true that Sunnis have been more prone to terrorism than Shias, despite their similarities in religious texts, cultures, and socio-economic conditions. It is rare to hear of suicide bombings or mass shootings done by Shias, even though Shias are subject to similar influences and conditions. I think this may be because Sunnis more plainly stress militarism in their circles. There is a lot of talk on the "Golden Age" - the early battles, the imperial conquests, conscription - and admiration of aggressive tough guys like `Umar, Khalid bin Walid, and Salahuddin. Sunnis were at the helm of the Caliphate, and so these stories encouraged people to take on security roles. Furthermore, the Caliphate would periodically crack down on domestic dissidents, which often were Muslims of other sects.

Shias living in Sunni lands were a persecuted minority that established a more tight-knit identity and could not afford being overtly violent or divisive. We were not in a position to call others blasphemers, or further divide our own communities the way Sunnis have done. While Shiism is not pacifistic, most of our Imams (who serve as our main rolemodels) were not warriors, and were often imprisoned, murdered, and poisoned. The Imams even withheld their followers from insurrection, and stressed patience. Shiism's passion narrative is that of Imam Husayn, who was no aggressor or conqueror, but was a noble man who was killed with his family by the Caliph. The very emotional injustice perpetrated against the Family of Muhammad by Muslim leaders makes us hate terrorism in our very core. When we see ISIS, we are reminded of the same relentless aggressors that persecuted the Family of Muhammad.

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29 minutes ago, Qa'im said:

Keep in mind that terrorism in the Middle East is not just motivated by religious extremism, but it was also engendered by colonialism, neo-imperialism, proxy wars, authoritarian governments and poor standards of living. The region is going through a tough time, and that is likely to continue for the years to come, but it was not always that way. Some are surprised to hear that the pre-modern Middle East had far fewer armed conflicts than Europe between the 7th and 20th century. Even in World War 2, amid the 60 million casualties in Europe, the Mideast was doing quite well. So the characterization that Sunni Islam is particularly violent is not the full picture.

However, it is true that Sunnis have been more prone to terrorism than Shias, despite their similarities in religious texts, cultures, and socio-economic conditions. It is rare to hear of suicide bombings or mass shootings done by Shias, even though Shias are subject to similar influences and conditions. I think this may be because Sunnis more plainly stress militarism in their circles. There is a lot of talk on the "Golden Age" - the early battles, the imperial conquests, conscription - and admiration of aggressive tough guys like `Umar, Khalid bin Walid, and Salahuddin. Sunnis were at the helm of the Caliphate, and so these stories encouraged people to take on security roles. Furthermore, the Caliphate would periodically crack down on domestic dissidents, which often were Muslims of other sects.

Shias living in Sunni lands were a persecuted minority that established a more tight-knit identity and could not afford being overtly violent or divisive. We were not in a position to call others blasphemers, or further divide our own communities the way Sunnis have done. While Shiism is not pacifistic, most of our Imams (who serve as our main rolemodels) were not warriors, and were often imprisoned, murdered, and poisoned. The Imams even withheld their followers from insurrection, and stressed patience. Shiism's passion narrative is that of Imam Husayn, who was no aggressor or conqueror, but was a noble man who was killed with his family by the Caliph. The very emotional injustice perpetrated against the Family of Muhammad by Muslim leaders makes us hate terrorism in our very core. When we see ISIS, we are reminded of the same relentless aggressors that persecuted the Family of Muhammad.

An excellent post, mashAllah!

I do feel , given what is going on in Syria , that narrative of patience and endurance , and compassion, and our image as a whole is being tarnished, and there is wide-spread propaganda to paint shia's as lovers of the slaughters of sunni's via 'barrel bombs' in Syria. 

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5 hours ago, ChristianVisitor said:

I've always wondered why Sunnis are more prone to aggressive acts compared to Muslims of other sects. I'm not saying all Sunnis are but most of the people who join Isis or support the radical Salafis are from Sunni background. Why is that so?

According to Shia Imams' teachings, especially Imam Ali, Shia scholars is more aware about the differentiation between Muslim sects and societies. Shia not only are commanded not to support and reinforce the divergences between schools parallax, but also are commanded to live together with other sect followers even non Muslims in a peaceful manner and tolerate the different opinions. Nowadays events are very ambiguous. The battles which are running in the Middle East are funded and supported by US and UK government. They really frighten of the spread of Islam and do not like to lose their authority through Muslim countries in the Middle East. Also, they want to save the Israeli regime. Therefore, they support Muslim extremists and radicals to start a battle and spread horror among Muslim societies.  

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11 hours ago, ChristianVisitor said:

I've always wondered why Sunnis are more prone to aggressive acts compared to Muslims of other sects. I'm not saying all Sunnis are but most of the people who join Isis or support the radical Salafis are from Sunni background. Why is that so?

Islam taken from the Prophet and his Progeny is peaceful, patient and co-exists happily with others. 

Islam taken from other than the Prophet and his Progeny - not so much.

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4 hours ago, Zendegi said:

Because theres more of them. At least more than 90% of Muslims are Sunni. 

 

Even proportionally these things are still more common among Sunnis. The bombing of mosques, market places, concert halls, and shrines is almost exclusively done by one sect. It's not just 4x more likely, it's very common vs very uncommon.

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Let's also add, we are far more open to unity than they are. Now some may argue it's because we are a minority, and so we are more in need of safety from oppression. However, shia-sunni unity is pushed even in countries with a shia majority. Furthermore, theologically, there is far less takfirism and far more theological tolerance for other madhabs.

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10 hours ago, Tawheed313 said:

Agreed. Although the sunni reply to this is 'why are you shia's supporting the dictator bashar al assad who is slaughtering in the hundreds of thousands with barrel bombs'.

 

When you want to put a "Sunni Reply" can you at least fact check it?

(I am not going in o the issue, of do your "Sunni" friend, or fo ryou that matter understand the difference between political and Religion issue Otherwise you would present it in that context(I mean "THier" reply ). Media strategy to use this BB slogan."They" have adopted it, very wise. One word just washes away and positives that may be put along with it.

Keep up the good work!!W007

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16 minutes ago, S.M.H.A. said:

 

When you want to put a "Sunni Reply" can you at least fact check it?

(I am not going in o the issue, of do your "Sunni" friend, or fo ryou that matter understand the difference between political and Religion issue Otherwise you would present it in that context(I mean "THier" reply ). Media strategy to use this BB slogan."They" have adopted it, very wise. One word just washes away and positives that may be put along with it.

Keep up the good work!!W007

It was not something i said or claimed , but what they said. 

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We know, "They" said. 

"TheY" also are familiar with, a tactic, add few positives, to through of people but add a charge/word. People only remember that particular word/phrase/slogan. 
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We (Shi'a)are involved in any country for one principle reason, we have very high value assets, that we will protect with our lives. We have clear understanding that :”They” will seek to destroy them, We can’t let that happen on land or on the net.

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11 hours ago, Tawheed313 said:

Agreed. Although the sunni reply to this is 'why are you shia's supporting the dictator bashar al assad who is slaughtering in the hundreds of thousands with barrel bombs'.

 

"the spokesman for ISIS, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, issued a warning to Iraq’s embattled prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, saying the extremist group would settle its scores with him and the Shiites, not in Baghdad or in the northern Iraqi shrine city of Samarra, but “in Karbala, the filth-ridden city, and in Najaf, the city of polytheists.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/world/middleeast/in-the-shadows-of-shrines-shiite-forces-are-preparing-to-fight-isis.html

We Same Assets in Syria. So, "TheY" are doing the same on the net. With Mushrik/Shirk?Kaffir?Ghuluw?Azadari issue.It all works for the same end. Which is stated above(disregard the mention of any individual, that just smoke screen)

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12 hours ago, ChristianVisitor said:

I've always wondered why Sunnis are more prone to aggressive acts compared to Muslims of other sects. I'm not saying all Sunnis are but most of the people who join Isis or support the radical Salafis are from Sunni background. Why is that so?

Answer to your question(s) in here, 

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The Trampling on al-Husayn’s Body

Thereafter, ‘Umar bin Sa‘d called out to his followers: “Who will volunteer [to go] to al-Husayn and make his horse trample on [his body]?” Ten [men] volunteered. Of these, Ishaq bin Haiwah al-Hadhrami and Ahbash bin Mirthad al-Hadhrami came forward and trampled on [the body of] al-Husayn (as) with their horses until they had crushed his back and chest.6

‘Umar bin Sa‘d then performed the funeral prayer for those of his followers who were killed, and buried them. He dispatched on the same day the head of [the Imam (as)] with Khauliyy bin Yazid to ‘Ubaidullah bin Ziyad. When Khauliyy approached the palace, he found that the gate of the palace was closed. So he went to his house7 and placed the head beneath a [large] bowl. In the early morning of the next day, he went to ‘Ubaidullah bin Ziyad with the head."

https://www.al-islam.org/event-taff-earliest-historical-account-tragedy-karbala-abu-mikhnaf/after-martyrdom-al-husayn#trampling-al-husayns-body

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Which god was Umar ibn Sa'd was praying to?

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