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The name of Imam Ali a.s son's.

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Why did some of Imam Ali a.s son's name derived from the name of Abu Bakar, Umar and Utsman?? These name couldnt seen in the progeny of Imam Ali a.s through his wife, Fatima Az Zahra. But these 3 name placed among the son of Imam Ali through his other wives. Doesnt that when he named his son with the first 3 khulafa rasyid means that Ali r.a himself have pleased with them (because most of history fact state that these 1st three khulafa make a lot of trouble to the prophet's progeny). 

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Salam,

Names are not personal properties,we even had close and reliable sahabahs of the Imams who had names Umar , Uthman etc.

We also have names such as yazeed amongst the companions of the Imams !

So names and titles are not exclusive.

As long as the NAME does not have a low or bad meaning it is fine to keep.

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The Names of The Infallible Imams (as)

1. Al-'Imam 'Ali (as) (Amir al-Mu'minin)

2. Al-'Imam al-Hasan (as) (Al-Mujtaba)

3. Al-'Imam al-Husayn (as) (Sayyid al-Shuhada')

4. Al-'Imam 'Ali (as) (al-Sajjad)

5. Al-'Imam Muhammad (as) (Al-Baqir)

6. Al-'Imam Ja'far (as) (Al-Sadiq)

7. Al-'Imam Musa (as) (Al-Kazim)

8. Al-'Imam 'Ali (as) (Al-Ridha’)

9. Al-'Imam Muhammad (as) (Al-Taqi)

10. Al-'Imam 'Ali (as) (Al-Naqi)

11. Al-'Imam al-Hasan (as) (Al-'Askari)

12. Al-'Imam Muhammad (as) (Al-Mahdi), al-Hujjat ibn al-Hasan).

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There were lots of Abu bakar, Umar and Uthman existed at that time. So it was common to give such names. Books of Ahlus sunnah mentions that there were 9 Abu Bakr, 22 umar and 19 Uthman. 

Like Imam Ali (a.s.) himself mentions about naming his son Uthman.  Testimony of Imam ‘Ali (as) that he named one of his sons Uthman because on the day he was born. We find in Bihar al Anwar, Volume 45 page 38: 

 إنما سميته بأسم أخي عثمان بن مظعون

Ali (a.s) said:’ I named him after my brother Uthman bin Madhoon’

This is why the name Uthman was kept by Imam ‘Ali (as) it does not prove Uthman bin Affan’s merit, not even in the slightest.

And so is the case with 2 others. 

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11 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

lets say that the hadiths are true, whatever. so what? what does it prove? does it mean that they did not steal fadak?

Yup. They digested fadak and also the caliphate from the rightful successor. Their actions were detestable. Even if Imam Ali (a.s.) named his son same as those 3 usurpers, 'whats in the name?'

:grin:

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5 minutes ago, Lover of Ahlulbait (ams) said:

Yup. They digested fadak and also the caliphate from the rightful successor. Their actions were detestable. Even if Imam Ali (a.s.) named his son same as those 3 usurpers, 'whats in the name?'

:grin:

indeed. how weak must the non shia arguments be, that they can "prove" us wrong by (supposedly) claiming that Imam (as) named his sons after the first 3...while completely ignoring:

- the burning of the house
- the theft of fadak
- the debacle of saqifa
- the murder of companions 
- the abandonning of the funeral of the prophet pbuh

 

but shia are wrong and sunni are right. because names. #SunniLogic. 

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