Is the cause of the Universe Personal

[Qasim_Husayn]

Some people tend to argue that eternal inflation could have been the cause of the universe,

Why must it necessitate that the cause of the universe be a personal being. How does agent causation prove that the cause of the Universe is conscious. What do people mean when they say that the only two possible things which could have caused the universe are, an abstract object or an unembodied mind. 

[Danish14]

1 hour ago, Qasim_Husayn said:

Some people tend to argue that eternal inflation could have been the cause of the universe,

Why must it necessitate that the cause of the universe be a personal being. How does agent causation prove that the cause of the Universe is conscious. What do people mean when they say that the only two possible things which could have caused the universe are, an abstract object or an unembodied mind. 

You could have said that in easier language. My English is not that good but I like to learn about ilm-marfat.

Cause of creation is nothing but Zikr of creator. He  (SWT) wanted that his creation know him and obtain his nearness. Although infidels say that why should they do that and they say that they will do whatever they want and no one can harm them.  However,  they are unaware that submission before most knowledgeable is an honor about which every creation admits and that it is better to submit before higher one than submitting before lower beings. Secondly, as I mentioned that zikr of Allah ( SWT ) was the cause of creation so even if a sinner moves away from God as a pretext to why should he worship Him,  he loases his contact from the being who could have saved him from ill-effects and falls into abyss of perversion. It is because creator has cursed ignorance and ignorance is nothing but abandoning him. So, if a man dies in his submission,  he dies in his mercy which is rewarded highly and this is his zikr and those who abandons the creator, such dies in ignorance and losses mercy and knowledge through which he might have saved himself. So, purpose is his zikr of magnanimity that he rules over everything and every beings submit before him be it willingly or unwillingly.

[Qasim_Husayn]

3 hours ago, Danish14 said:

You could have said that in easier language. My English is not that good but I like to learn about ilm-marfat.

Cause of creation is nothing but Zikr of creator. He  (SWT) wanted that his creation know him and obtain his nearness. Although infidels say that why should they do that and they say that they will do whatever they want and no one can harm them.  However,  they are unaware that submission before most knowledgeable is an honor about which every creation admits and that it is better to submit before higher one than submitting before lower beings. Secondly, as I mentioned that zikr of Allah ( SWT ) was the cause of creation so even if a sinner moves away from God as a pretext to why should he worship Him,  he loases his contact from the being who could have saved him from ill-effects and falls into abyss of perversion. It is because creator has cursed ignorance and ignorance is nothing but abandoning him. So, if a man dies in his submission,  he dies in his mercy which is rewarded highly and this is his zikr and those who abandons the creator, such dies in ignorance and losses mercy and knowledge through which he might have saved himself. So, purpose is his zikr of magnanimity that he rules over everything and every beings submit before him be it willingly or unwillingly.

But how do we know that God is conscious, and just

[Danish14]

9 hours ago, Qasim_Husayn said:

But how do we know that God is conscious, and just

It is known through his conferment of reward and mercy upon good doers and punishment upon wrong doers.

[Qasim_Husayn]

11 hours ago, Danish14 said:

It is known through his conferment of reward and mercy upon good doers and punishment upon wrong doers.

 But how do we know God can think

[iCambrian]

Youre asking unanswerable questions Qasim.  Even for believers, this question of...if God is a personal God, is truly unknown.  We cannot even define God, nor understand what God is, let alone could we even begin discussing whether or not He/It could "think" or have feelings.

[sefket83]

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Qasim_Husayn said:

Some people tend to argue that eternal inflation could have been the cause of the universe,

Why must it necessitate that the cause of the universe be a personal being. How does agent causation prove that the cause of the Universe is conscious. What do people mean when they say that the only two possible things which could have caused the universe are, an abstract object or an unembodied mind. 

It is hard to know if people who deal with these questions deny some truths or not when arguing for the cause of the Universe. Stephen Hawkings says the most simple answer is that the Universe had a spontaneous cause or no cause. It began to exist without cause. This is based on the evidence he has of the observations present maybe he knows about the signs of Islam but denyes them. What you need to do is to look what reasons they have for their conclusions. 

Those who claim that the Universe was not caused by something concious base this on the conclusion that the Universe needs no concious being to be the way it is because they see it as that the laws present are enough to produce the different solar systems, humans, birds and vegetation. Evolution is what they think is the correct explanation but this theory is not proved so I think they believe in it because otherwise they would be forced to include a concious being in their explanation. Sad people of authority behave in this way...

May God ease for you and give you a broad understanding of humans

 

[Danish14]

8 hours ago, Qasim_Husayn said:

 But how do we know God can think

He is absolute wise and knowledgeable so what should He think of?  Humans think of how to make things better but what he designs is perfect. Human thinks that what should they do to avert any danger but there is none who can confront him. Wisdom comes through thinking. And He is the source of wisdom always. He was always wise and will always remain wise and therefore He do not have to think like humans for the fear that something might get wrong and bad happens. He calls himself all-wise and that is higher than thinking.

[eThErEaL]

On 5/15/2016 at 6:27 PM, Qasim_Husayn said:

But how do we know that God is conscious, and just

It is His Being, not us, that defines what it means to be conscious.  We are, at best, imperfectly conscious (God is perfect consciousness itself).  The starting point is neither us nor the world, but God alone.   He defines what it means to be a Person, not us.  We are, at best, imperfect persons.  And this is all because He defines what it means to be real (He is reality as such).  Everything else is, at best, imperfectly real.  The whole question about proving His existence is a fallacy because His Being defines what it means to be.  Our starting point is absolute perfection (i.e. God) not relative perfection.