The Quranist Movement

[S.M.H.A.]

"The Book of Allah is sufficient for us"

http://sunnah.com/muslim/25/31

Audhu billahi min ash-shaitanir rajeem.

Bismillah, ar-Rahman, ar-Rahim

AsSalaamu Alaykum,

 

Your thoughts on

1] What is the Quranist movement

2] What is the origin of the Quranist movement

3] What is the claim according to the Quranist movement that necessitated it.

4] What are the stated goals of the Quranist movement.

5] What are the dangers associated to Islam with this movement [ Think out of the Box ]

 

WS

Layman.

[sidnaq]

hmm i dont know much about the quranist movement, but the thing is if it relies only upon quran and anyone can trnslate and do their own tafser on it, then i think you can see the problem of that, but my thoughts are that i want to rely upon hadith, hadiths are beautiful they are what gives extra structure to the deen of islam, many beautiful sayings just sayings are a source of inspiration and comfort to a person's heart, and if one believes in the imams a.s. then what do they say about hadiths

[Follower of Truth]

6 hours ago, S.M.H.A. said:

"The Book of Allah is sufficient for us"

http://sunnah.com/muslim/25/31

Audhu billahi min ash-shaitanir rajeem.

Bismillah, ar-Rahman, ar-Rahim

AsSalaamu Alaykum,

 

Your thoughts on

1] What is the Quranist movement

2] What is the origin of the Quranist movement

3] What is the claim according to the Quranist movement that necessitated it.

4] What are the stated goals of the Quranist movement.

5] What are the dangers associated to Islam with this movement [ Think out of the Box ]

 

WS

Layman.

waalaikum salam

quranist movement is a movement which claims to follow only quran and reject hadith narrations. and they want to argue that hadith are not preserved like quran rather they are narrated by some humans of different generations and they can not be trusted. they argue quran is enough to understand religion without hadith narration.

the origin of quranist movement is very old. even in classical islamic era some groups (specially among mutazila) evolved who rejected the validity of hadith. but this movement fueled in modern era because of western influence. some modernist and so called liberal muslims evolved who at the same time wanted to follow islam and western lifestyle. so they wanted to interpret it in a manner which will conform to western lifestyle. but hadith is a great barrier to their endeaver. so they initiated quran only movement by rejecting hadith so that they can interpret quranic versed at their sweet will.

as for example. they dont love hijab. so want to interpret the verses of hijab in a way which is compatible to western values. this quranist movement has most adherents in turkey, egypt, iran and pakistan. where secular and liberal minded 'muslims' tend to be quranist.

the great danger of this movement is that it distort the meaning of quranic verses for which they were revealed. at their hand islam will not be religion af Allah rather it will be religion of desire.

[narsis]

Bismillah.

Salaam.

Please see this article in Arabic:

https://jalit.ut.ac.ir/article_52030_0.html

With Duas.

Narsis.

[Abu Nur]

3 hours ago, Follower of Truth said:

waalaikum salam

quranist movement is a movement which claims to follow only quran and reject hadith narrations. and they want to argue that hadith are not preserved like quran rather they are narrated by some humans of different generations and they can not be trusted. they argue quran is enough to understand religion without hadith narration.

the origin of quranist movement is very old. even in classical islamic era some groups (specially among mutazila) evolved who rejected the validity of hadith. but this movement fueled in modern era because of western influence. some modernist and so called liberal muslims evolved who at the same time wanted to follow islam and western lifestyle. so they wanted to interpret it in a manner which will conform to western lifestyle. but hadith is a great barrier to their endeaver. so they initiated quran only movement by rejecting hadith so that they can interpret quranic versed at their sweet will.

as for example. they dont love hijab. so want to interpret the verses of hijab in a way which is compatible to western values. this quranist movement has most adherents in turkey, egypt, iran and pakistan. where secular and liberal minded 'muslims' tend to be quranist.

the great danger of this movement is that it distort the meaning of quranic verses for which they were revealed. at their hand islam will not be religion af Allah rather it will be religion of desire.

I want add one important point. Quranist do not have common ground on interpretation of Qur'an, which means every Quranist have own understanding of Quranic verses thus own interpretation.

Edited April 17, 2016 by Dhulfikar

[Faruk]

I think the Quranist movement is not on the truth but can question some issues that crept during the centuries into Sunni and Shia Islam that are not in concordance with the Quran.

I see other sects not as enemies or opponents but as corrections for issues we used to accept and neglect its invadility or errors as time went along.

Edited April 17, 2016 by Faruk

[Althaqalayn12]

They are a group that rejects the prophet. Easily beatable too in a debate, that is if they can answer this question which the answer to it is the hadith. They also reject the prophet which is funny, because he is the only one who can define to the muslims what the quran means which the quranists claim they know which is against the quran because Allah says

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ

صدق الله العلي العظيم

[We sent them] with clear proofs and written ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.

Edited April 18, 2016 by Althaqalayn12

[sakura1994]

if by quranist they mean to follow the quran , then I am with them , but if they plan to twist the quran verses meaning for their agendas then I strongly against them ... like I saw someone saying alcohol isn't haram cuz in quran say اجتنبوا  and in another verse it say that Allah will grant muslims with rivers from خمر , so as muslim who try to follow the quran and stay away from sects , I have no problem with quran being our main book and stop sects fights , but if someone try to take out the quran verses out of it's context and twist their meaning then I am against such movement , but I also reject all sects .

[S.M.H.A.]

هُوَ الَّذِي أَنْزَلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ مِنْهُ آيَاتٌ مُحْكَمَاتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ الْكِتَابِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَابِهَاتٌ ۖ فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَابَهَ مِنْهُ ابْتِغَاءَ الْفِتْنَةِ وَابْتِغَاءَ تَأْوِيلِهِ ۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُ إِلَّا اللَّهُ ۗ وَالرَّاسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ آمَنَّا بِهِ كُلٌّ مِنْ عِنْدِ رَبِّنَا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّا أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ {7}

[Shakir 3:7] He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.

[Pickthal 3:7] He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed.

[Yusufali 3:7] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

What is the Quranist understanding of Surah 3, Verse 7. 

1]Who are the ones "Firmly grounded in Knowledge". Based on the Qur'an -

2]First would be Prophet Muhammad[pbuhahp]. So, how do you justify "Book is sufficient for us".

3]How do you identify these people after Prophet Muhammad[pbuhahp]? 

[sefket83]

The Quran is unchanged so it is 100% certain to be true. Some things are not explained fully in the Quran so what the Quranist do is to make up their own ways instead of relying on authenthic ahadith which are far more probable to be near the truth. As long as people are aware of this they have no reason to become a Quranist. 

[sharinganMahdi]

Quranists rely solely upon conjecture and that's it , their are two main types ,  one is similar to the salafi/isis ideology , the other are the poetic prince and princesses who use the Quran to justify their indulgence in forbidden pleasures , The Quran alone is not enough you need the ahlulbayt to teach you the essence of the Quran

[Fatima Hussain]

From my understanding there are different kinds of Quranists, but basically all of them reject ahadith and claim to follow Qur'an alone.

[Mariama]

Well.. How much of the Quran needs support from Hadeeth?  

 There is an undeniable hujja(reasoning, argument, pretense) the Quran presents, alone. Sometimes people choose to ignore it anyway. The claim that alcohol being permissible is ungrounded and people still find a way to accept it. I would rather deal with a quranist than any hadeeth based judgement based off "Al Kutub Al Sittah", the 6 major Hadeeth books.

[Shahrukh K]

On 4/17/2016 at 6:23 AM, S.M.H.A. said:

"The Book of Allah is sufficient for us"

http://sunnah.com/muslim/25/31

Audhu billahi min ash-shaitanir rajeem.

Bismillah, ar-Rahman, ar-Rahim

AsSalaamu Alaykum,

 

Your thoughts on

1] What is the Quranist movement

2] What is the origin of the Quranist movement

3] What is the claim according to the Quranist movement that necessitated it.

4] What are the stated goals of the Quranist movement.

5] What are the dangers associated to Islam with this movement [ Think out of the Box ]

 

WS

Layman.

I want to add few questions

6) It is said that book given to prophet Musa (as) by Allah is not the same what jews have now. Who changed it and how it is changed?

وَإِذْ آتَيْنَا مُوسَى الْكِتَابَ وَالْفُرْقَانَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَ

And when We gave Musa the Book and the Furqan that you might walk aright. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:53)

7) How  and when jews started to say Uzair is son of God ?

8) Similarly book given to Prophet Isa(as) is not the same at present what was revealed to him. Why?
9) How people started to call Prophet Isa (as) son of God, though he never said that ?