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Hypocrites of Medina/Hypocrites of Mecca

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Salam, 

If there were hypocrites in Medina who converted because muslims were the majority and/or had the power, isn't it possible as well that there were many hypocrites in Mecca after the muslims entered it and who converted after that?

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On 3/25/2016 at 11:21 AM, Talut said:

If there were hypocrites in Medina who converted because muslims were the majority and/or had the power, isn't it possible as well that there were many hypocrites in Mecca after the muslims entered it and who converted after that?

Salam, establishing the possibility of hypocrisy is not hard. But the burden of proof for the actuality of hypocrisy for each individual lies on the shoulders of the person who wants to make that claim.

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Qur'an: Surah # 63:  Al- Munnafiqoon [The Hypocrites]

[Pickthal 63:1] When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely.
[Pickthal 63:2] They make their faith a pretext so that they may turn (men) from the way of Allah. Verily evil is that which they are wont to do,
[Pickthal 63:3] That is because they believed, then disbelieved, therefore their hearts are sealed so that they understand not.
[Pickthal 63:4] And when thou seest them their figures please thee; and if they speak thou givest ear unto their speech. (They are) as though they were blocks of wood in striped cloaks. They deem every shout to be against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah confound them! How they are perverted!
[Pickthal 63:5] And when it is said unto them: Come! The messenger of Allah will ask forgiveness for you! they avert their faces and thou seest them turning away, disdainful.
[Pickthal 63:6] Whether thou ask forgiveness for them or ask not forgiveness for them is all one for them; Allah will not forgive them. Lo! Allah guideth not the evil-living folk.
[Pickthal 63:7] They it is who say: Spend not on behalf of those (who dwell) with Allah's messenger that they may disperse (and go away from you); when Allah's are the treasures of the heavens and the earth; but the hypocrites comprehend not.
[Pickthal 63:8] They say: Surely, if we return to Al-Madinah the mightier will soon drive out the weaker; when might belongeth to Allah and to His messenger and to the believers; but the hypocrites know not.
[Pickthal 63:9] O ye who believe! Let not your wealth nor your children distract you from remembrance of Allah. Those who do so, they are the losers.
[Pickthal 63:10] And spend of that wherewith We have provided you before death cometh unto one of you and he saith: My Lord! If only thou wouldst reprieve me for a little while, then I would give alms and be among the righteous.
[Pickthal 63:11] But Allah reprieveth no soul when its term cometh, and Allah is Informed of what ye do.

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Surah # 9: at-Tawba [The Repentance]

[Pickthal 9:107] And as for those who chose a place of worship out of opposition and disbelief, and in order to cause dissent among the believers, and as an outpost for those who warred against Allah and His messenger aforetime, they will surely swear: We purposed naught save good. Allah beareth witness that they verily are liars.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 9:107]

Abu Amir was a Christian monk. Before the arrival of the Holy Prophet in Madina, he used to tell the people of Madina that a promised prophet was about to appear, but when he came and conquered the hearts of the people, Abu Amir lost his position in the community and people completely forgot him. He went to Makka and encouraged and prepared the pagans to fight against the Holy Prophet. He took part in the battles of Uhad and Hunayn. Then he went to Hercules, the emperor of Byzantine empire, to raise an army to crush the Muslims. From there he wrote letters to his comrades (hypocrites in Madina) to build a masjid of their own, so that when he returned it could serve as a centre from where they could operate their plans against the Holy Prophet. At once the hypocrites built a masjid in Quba, a suburb of Madina, about 3 miles to the south-east, known as masjid dhirar (mischief). This place was selected because the Holy Prophet had rested in Quba for four days before entering the city on his emigration from Makka, and had built the first masjid there to which he frequently came to pray salat. It is said that offering of salat in this masjid is equal to one umrah.

By the time masjid dhirar was completed Abu Amir died in Syria. The hypocrites requested the Holy Prophet to consecrate it by praying therein. He did not, and after his return from Tabuk it was demolished.

http://quran.al-islam.org/

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The Conquest of Mecca: [ in Ramadan 8 A.H] 

".....

In the meanwhile, Abu Sufyan along with Hakim bin Hizam and Budail bin Warqua’, two terrible polytheists, went out to reconnoiter. Before they got near the camp, they met ‘Abbas, the Prophet’s uncle. He apprised Abu Sufyan of the situation and advised him to accept Islam and persuade his people to surrender before Muhammad peace be upon him; otherwise, his head would be struck off.

Under the prevailing compelling circumstances, Abu Sufyan went in the company of ‘Abbas seeking the Prophet’s peace be upon him audience. The Muslims were furious to see Abu Sufyan and wanted to kill him on the spot. But the two men managed, not without difficulties, to see the Messenger of Allâh peace be upon him who advised that they see him the following day. The Prophet peace be upon him addressed Abu Sufyan saying: “Woe to you! Isn’t it time for you to bear witness to the Oneness of Allâh and Prophethood of Muhammad?” Here, the archenemy of Islam began to beseech the Prophet peace be upon him in the most earnest words that testify to the Prophet’s generosity and mild temper begging for pardon and forgiveness, and professing wholeheartedly the new faith. On request by ‘Abbas, the Prophet peace be upon him, in the context of the general amnesty he proclaimed, gave Abu Sufyan, who had a liking for bragging, a special privilege, saying: “He who takes refuge in Abu Sufyan’s house is safe; whosoever confines himself to his house, the inmates thereof shall be in safety, and he who enters the Sacred Mosque is safe.”

On the morning of Tuesday, 17th. Ramadan, 8 A.H., the Prophet peace be upon him left Mar Az-Zahran. He ordered Al-‘Abbas to detain Abu Sufyan at a commanding gorge that could afford a full view of the Muslim army parading on its way towards Makkah, and hence give him the chance to see the great and powerful soldiers of Allâh. The different tribes successively passed with their banners flown up, until at last the battalion of the Emigrants and Helpers with the Prophet peace be upon him at their head heavily armed marched by. Abu Sufyan began to wonder who those people were, to which Al-‘Abbas told him that they were Muhammad peace be upon him and his Companions. Abu Sufyan said that no army however powerful could resist those people and addressing Al-‘Abbas, he said: “I swear by Allâh that the sovereignty of your brother’s son has become too powerful to withstand.” Al-‘Abbas answered, “It is rather the power of Prophethood,” to which the former agreed......."

https://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/sporadic-invasions-sealed-nectar-chapter-34-life-of-muhammad/

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On 3/26/2016 at 6:21 AM, Talut said:

Salam, 

If there were hypocrites in Medina who converted because muslims were the majority and/or had the power, isn't it possible as well that there were many hypocrites in Mecca after the muslims entered it and who converted after that?

 

Yes. There were hypocrites, and there was also those who weren't hypocrites but neither were tried and tested to be known as believers either. 

That said, if you read Suratal Auli-Imran, it has a clear warning to BELIEVERS, not to turn on their backs, after clear guidance has come to them, and to rather stick to the rope of God.

So the Quran shows condition of that generation.

There were many hypocrites. 

There were many people who were neither believers or hypocrites, but were to be tried regarding their testimony of tongue.

There were believers, and even them, there was a real possibility of them overall turning on their backs.

That said, if this is true, there really has to be an axis from God for society to hold on.

 

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11 hours ago, GreatChineseFall said:

Salam, establishing the possibility of hypocrisy is not hard. But the burden of proof for the actuality of hypocrisy for each individual lies on the shoulders of the person who wants to make that claim.

True but no munafiqoon are mentioned by name in the Quran either , so hypocrites whether medina or makkah is a matter of which historical sources you trust

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1 hour ago, Panzerwaffe said:

True but no munafiqoon are mentioned by name in the Quran either , so hypocrites whether medina or makkah is a matter of which historical sources you trust

Also true, but using historical sources to interpolate or derive who the hypocrites were is a dangerous matter I do not wish to get into. If you don't have very reliable sources that the contemporaries of that person explicitly called him a hypocrite, then it is just speculation by generations centuries later to conclude that.

Also, when these verses were revealed, people of that time didn't go on a manhunt to find out who they were. If they popped up they would fight them if necessary and not let that happen. They did not have a mindset to let things pass "for the sake of unity/islam", which is a contradiction by the way.

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The discussion conducted so far has indicated the possibility of the presence of hypocrites. 

What was the identification of hypocrites? the following hadith provide the answers:

The Messenger of Allah said: "Loving ‘Ali is the sign of belief, and hating ‘Ali is the sign of hypocrisy."

Sunni references:

- Sahih Muslim, v1, p48;
- Sahih Tirmidhi, v5, p643;
- Sunan Ibn Majah, v1, p142;
- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal v1, pp 84,95,128
- Tarikh al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari (the author of Sahih), v1, part 1, p202
- Hilyatul Awliya’, by Abu Nu’aym, v4, p185
- Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v14, p462

This tradition of Prophet was popular to the extent that some of the companions used to say:

"We recognized the hypocrites by their hatred of ‘Ali."

Sunni references:

- Fada’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p639, Tradition #1086
- al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p47
- al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, v3, p242
- Dhakha’ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, p91


Zirr reported: 'Ali said: By Him Who split up the seed and created something living, the
Apostle (may peace and blessings be upon him) gave me a promise that no one but a believer would
love me, and none but a hypocrite would nurse grudge against me.

Sahih Muslim, English Ch 34, Book 001, Number 0141:, 

 

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4 hours ago, GreatChineseFall said:

Also true, but using historical sources to interpolate or derive who the hypocrites were is a dangerous matter I do not wish to get into. If you don't have very reliable sources that the contemporaries of that person explicitly called him a hypocrite, then it is just speculation by generations centuries later to conclude that.

Also, when these verses were revealed, people of that time didn't go on a manhunt to find out who they were. If they popped up they would fight them if necessary and not let that happen. They did not have a mindset to let things pass "for the sake of unity/islam", which is a contradiction by the way.

Indeed and contemporary sources are very limited on this issue so it's best to limit the name calling 

 

There are hadith which show hostility towards ansar and Ali as signs of hypocrisy so what are your opinion of them?

Do hadith occur which mention hostility towards other Sahaba as hypocrisy? 

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1 hour ago, Panzerwaffe said:

There are hadith which show hostility towards ansar and Ali as signs of hypocrisy so what are your opinion of them?

Do hadith occur which mention hostility towards other Sahaba as hypocrisy? 

For my opinions I rely heavily on what those people themselves considered. If there are reliable reports where Ali specifically declared people hypocrites because of their hostility towards them, then that conclusion should follow.

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Exposing the Chief of the Hypocrites 
Hypocrisy and hypocrites first appeared in the history of Islam when the Prophet of Islam (SAW) migrated from Mecca to Medina and strengthened the pillars of Islam. Under such conditions, it was impossible for the unbelievers to express their animosity towards Islam. Thus, in order to carry out their destructive plans and plots, they pretended to embrace Islam.
Abdullah ibn-e Ubai was the most prominent of the people of Medina, before the arrival of the Prophet (SAW) in this city. The people of Medina had agreed to appoint him as their king in order to finish the long-existing feud between the two tribes of `Aus' and `Khazraj'. While the preparation for his kingship were in progress, a group of people from Medina who were in contact with Mecca, met the Noble Prophet (SAW) and after embracing Islam, they requested him to send someone to Medina to propagate Islam. The Messenger of Allah (SAW) appointed Mus'ab Ibn-e Umair for the task and sent him to Medina. A large number of the people of Medina thus embraced Islam thereby creating favorable conditions for the migration of the noble Messenger of Allah (SAW) to Medina. Thus the Prophet's (SAW) migration changed the course of the history of Medina and Abdullah Ibn-e Ubai's hopes for becoming the king of Medina were destroyed completely. Therefore, he became very spiteful towards Islam, however, since most of the people of Medina had embraced Islam, he pretended to have converted to Islam. But, Islam had never really touched his heart. 
Abdullah Ibn-e Ubai never waged an open war against the Prophet (SAW) and never started a civil war. Instead he resorted to creating internal disturbances within the various sections of society. He remained alive for years after the Prophet's (SAW) arrival in Medina and died during the Prophet's (SAW) lifetime. After his death, the following Qur'anic verse was revealed by Almighty Allah: 
"And never offer prayer for anyone of them who dies and do not stand by his grave; surely they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle and they shall die in transgression." (9:84) 
The above verse clearly referred to the likes of Abdullah ibn-e Ubai and all the major interpreters of the Qur'an undisputedly consider him as one of the biggest hypocrites of all times. 
Let us now review the incidents which go on to prove the evil intentions in the heart of Abdullah ibn-e Ubai: 
1. It has been recorded that at the time of a war with the Romans, Abdullah ibn-e Ubai and a group of hypocrites as well as their allies made a separate camp in a place called `Zobab', that was separate from the Prophet's (SAW) camp and did not accompany him. Just one day before the outbreak of the holy war (jihad), Abdullah ibn-e Ubai returned to Medina along with his companions saying: 
"Muhammad wants to fight the Romans in this hot weather and far away from Medina. He thinks fighting the Romans is like child's play. I swear by Allah that I can see his companions being taken captives tomorrow." 
2. Prior to the Battle of Uhud, the Prophet (SAW) gathered the people of Medina in the mosque and said: 
"If you all agree we will stay in Medina and leaving the enemy put from where they arrive. If they stay there they will be in trouble and if they attack Medina we shall fight with them." 
Abdullah ibn-e Ubai too said the same thing. However, the young people who had not participated in the Battle of Badr and were looking forward for martyrdom (shahadat) disagreed and they said: 
"O Prophet of Allah! Take us to the enemy lest they think we are afraid." 
As a result of their insistence, the Prophet (SAW) decided to move out and left Medina with 1,000 people on a Friday. 
Abdullah ibn-e Ubai returned to Medina, half way to Uhud, taking with him one-third of the people, saying: "The Prophet (SAW) listened to the youth and ignored our suggestions. O people! We do not know as to why we have to put ourselves to swords." 
Abdullah ibn-e Amr ibn-e Haram (from the Bani Salameh tribe) followed them and said: "Fear Allah and do not leave the Prophet (SAW) and your tribe alone in this war." 
They replied: "If we knew that there would be a war we would not have abandoned you. However, we know that there will not be any war." ("Tarikh-e Payambar-e Islam", Dr. Muhammad Ayali, p. 311) 
3. Ibn-e Ishaq narrates that during the Battle of Bani Mostalaqi, Jahjah ibn-e Masoud Ghaffari and Sanan ibn- Wabayahni began a fight over water. Sanan asked the Ansars for help and Jahjah went to Mohajers. A war was about to take place, but some people from the Mohajers and Ansars mediated and ended the fight. 
Abdullah ibn-e Ubai took advantage of the situation and tried to instigate the people of his tribe and said: "They are trying to be our masters in our own land. We have brought it on ourselves. I swear by God that our position has become like the saying that says: `breed a dog to eat up yourself.'" 
"I swear by God that when we return to Medina we, the nobles of Medina, shall throw these wretched Mohajers out. You have brought it upon yourselves. You supported them and shared with them whatever you had. I swear by God that if you had not received them, they would have gone elsewhere." 
Zaid ibn-e Arqram reported the incident to the Prophet (SAW). Omar was present and requested the Prophet (SAW) to order Ebad ibn-e Bashar to kill Abdullah ibn-e Ubai. The Prophet (SAW) said: "How can I issue such an order? People shall then say that Muhammad kills his companions!" 
Then the Prophet (SAW) ordered the troops to march forward. Asid came to him and enquired about this untimely move. The Prophet (SAW) said: "Don't you know about the turmoil which Abdullah ibn-e Ubai has created?" 
Abdullah ibn-e Ubai came to know about Zaid ibn- Arqram reporting to the Prophet (SAW) and went to him (SAW) and swore that he had not uttered these words. Since he was respected among his tribesmen, they came to his support and said: "Perhaps this boy (Zaid ibn-e Arqram) is making a mistake and does not remember Abdullah's words well enough!" 
Thereupon life became difficult for Zaid and everyone scorned him. However, soon thereafter, the Chapter "Al-Munafeqoon" was revealed to the Noble Prophet (SAW), which says: 
"They say: `If we return to Medina, the mighty will surely drive out the meaner therefrom; and to Allah belongs the might and to His Apostle and to the believers, but the hypocrites do not know.” (63:8) 

Accusing the Wife of the Prophet (SAW): 
Once, while returning from Bani Mostalaq, the Prophet (SAW) camped at a place for a while and in the middle of the night, he ordered his companions to move towards Medina. Aisha, the wife of the Prophet (SAW) left the camp to relieve herself and on return she realized that she had lost her valuable necklace and began to search for it and was thus left behind. She joined the Prophet (SAW) after a delay, along with Safwan who was bringing along the people who were left behind. 
The hypocrites waged accusations on Aisha in order to defame the Prophet (SAW) until the following Qur'anic verses were finally revealed: 
"Surely they who concocted the lie are a party from among you. Do not regard it an evil to you; nay, it is good for you. Every man of them shall have what he has earned of sin; and (as for) him who took upon himself the main part thereof, he shall have a grievous chastisement. Why did not the believing men and the believing women, when you heard it, think well of their own people, and say: `This is an evident of falsehood?” (24:11-12) 
In this way the Glorious Qur'an awakened the Muslims and the faithful and warned them against those who pretend to having accepted Islam only in order to pursue their dangerous designs. The Qur'an exposed to the people that Ubai's move was not an unintentional one but was in fact a calculated move with the aim of defaming the Prophet (SAW), that was aborted. 
These verses came to be revealed only 40 days after the above-mentioned incident, putting things in their right perspective. However, God alone knows what the Prophet (SAW) and his close companions went through during those 40 days of false accusation and speculation. 
The outcome of this incident of course was to the best interests of the Muslims in many ways. This is because it revealed to the Muslim society, its hidden enemies, as well as made the position of the true believers clear. Moreover, it taught the Muslims the lesson that in times of peace, true believers and the hypocrites are undistinguishable from one another. However, the moment the society faces any kind of uncertainty or hardship, the hypocrites lay the biggest blows on Islam. Thus, the hidden evil within the society is laid clearly unexposed. ("Aashnayee ba Qur'an", by Martyr Ayatollah Morteza Mutahhari, Vol. 4)

http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=4317

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In Addition to Surah 63 & Surah 9 Verse 107, and the event of Conquest of Mecca in 8 A.H.

In 10 A.H

يَا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ رَبِّكَ ۖ وَإِنْ لَمْ تَفْعَلْ فَمَا بَلَّغْتَ رِسَالَتَهُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ يَعْصِمُكَ مِنَ النَّاسِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الْكَافِرِينَ {67}

[Shakir 5:67] O Messenger! deliver what bas been revealed to you from your Lord; and if you do it not, then you have not delivered His message, and Allah will protect you from the people; surely Allah will not guide the unbelieving people.
[Pickthal 5:67] O Messenger! Make known that which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord, for if thou do it not, thou wilt not have conveyed His message. Allah will protect thee from mankind. Lo! Allah guideth not the disbelieving folk.
[Yusufali 5:67] O Messenger! proclaim the (message) which hath been sent to thee from thy Lord. If thou didst not, thou wouldst not have fulfilled and proclaimed His mission. And Allah will defend thee from men (who mean mischief). For Allah guideth not those who reject Faith.

The followers of "Muhammad and ali Muhammad" are quite certain that this verse descended about the wilayah (regency) of Ali on the day of Ghadir Khum,

Detailed [Pooya/Ali Commentary 5:67] @ http://quran.al-islam.org/

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10A.H is the last Full  year[Prophet left few months later in in 11 A.H]. Conquest of Mecca was in 8A.H . Who are these people that Allah[awj] needs to Protect Prophet Muhammad [pbuhahp] From? [Not the non believers/pagans]

Reason people have such reservations discussing these issue, because it strengthens the "Question of Succession" of the Divinely appointment Prophet[pbuhahp]. Even a "normal" person/ a regular Leader of a tribe/nation/country will not leave his nation without appointment or direction as to who needs to be elected and by which method.

Edited by S.M.H.A.

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Allah says in surat taubah, verse 74

يَحْلِفُونَ بِاللَّهِ مَا قَالُوا وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلَامِهِمْ وَهَمُّوا بِمَا لَمْ يَنَالُوا ۚ وَمَا نَقَمُوا إِلَّا أَنْ أَغْنَاهُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ ۚ فَإِنْ يَتُوبُوا يَكُ خَيْرًا لَهُمْ ۖ وَإِنْ يَتَوَلَّوْا يُعَذِّبْهُمُ اللَّهُ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ ۚ وَمَا لَهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ مِنْ وَلِيٍّ وَلَا نَصِيرٍ

They swear by Allah that they did not speak, and certainly they did speak, the word of unbelief, and disbelieved after their Islam, and they had determined upon what they have not been able to effect, and they did not find fault except because Allah and His Messenger enriched them out of His grace; therefore if they repent, it will be good for them; and if they turn back, Allah will chastise them with a painful chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall not have in the land any guardian or a helper.

in tafsir of وَهَمُّوا بِما لَمْ يَنالُوا , [and they had determined upon what they have not been able to effect,] sunni scholars said that it is those people who tried to martyr holy prophet asws on return from battle of tabuk

amongst them

behqi writes in dalail un naboa, from arwa that

When prophet was returning from battles of tabuk, some of the companions of prophet asws made this plan to throw HIM from the top of a mountain, so when muslims reached the pass in the mountain, muslims also intend to pass along with; when HE came to know about the evil plan of hypocrites, he told muslims: whosoever wishest to go via other route, he can do that as the passage is quite narrow, so muslim went by the other way, except for those few who had made the plan; when monfaqeen heard this, they agreed and covered their faces, so HE ordered huzaifa bin yaman and ammar bin yasir to be with them; and told ammar: you hold the camel; and HE told huzaifa: you be behind the camel and drive it (that is in the sense of pushing it)

and at that time, they heard the voice of those monafaqeen/hypocrites, who came their and surrounded the camel so that they can act on their plans; so HE got angry and ordered huzaifa to keep them away; so huzaifa attacked them with the stick he had; and hit their camels, and also those monfaqeen. Huzaifa recognized them; then Allah put HIS terror on them

and they also realized it (that huzaifa has recognized them) so they skipped quickly and joined muslims and mixed up in them. So huzaifa turned back, and HE told him to drive the camel from behind, and told ammar to continue walking and take out of that mountain pass; then he asked huzaifa: did u recognized them? He said I recognized the camels of FULAN FULAN; but their faces were covered, and it was night so could not recognize them; so HE said: do u know whose plan was it? He said I am not aware.

So he said: this was their plan that they wished to kill me in the night by throwing me away from mountain;

He said: o prophet! tell Allah to hit their necks

Prophet said: I do not like that people should say that mohammad is charging his companions and killing them as well

Then he told the names of those hypocrites to them and told them not to tell anyone

https://ahlubait.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/the-hypocrites-who-tried-to-martyr-holy-prophet-asws/

 

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3 hours ago, GreatChineseFall said:

For my opinions I rely heavily on what those people themselves considered. If there are reliable reports where Ali specifically declared people hypocrites because of their hostility towards them, then that conclusion should follow.

That's a good approach 

As partisan approach from both proAli and prouthmani parties makes even the most "sahih" hadith problematic 

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