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Erdogan is a dictator. He wants all the power in the executive branch, is censoring free speech and even passed laws saying "insulting content" can be shut down, he sent a 13 year old to prison for criticizing him, he destroyed syria and arms the takfiris, he persecutes members of the gulen movement, which my family is a part of, simply because the judiciary made a probe into possible corruption by the akp, doing their jobs, and the majority of them were gulenists, he has shut down thousands of gulen owned schools, businesses, sent journalists to prison,  been in bed with saudi arabia and isis, bombs the kurds and refuses to let them fight the takfiris, he took over zaman newspaper for "promoting the pkk", said a de facto dictatorship worked in nazi germany and so it should work there, is helping the bombardment of yemen (fighting houthis), is arming boko haram, and is trying to change the constitution to turn turkey into a presidential system...and is shoving religion down a secular nation's throat. i am turkish and I HATE HATE HATE him....what do you think?

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29 minutes ago, Sinan said:

Erdogan is a dictator. He wants all the power in the executive branch, is censoring free speech and even passed laws saying "insulting content" can be shut down, he sent a 13 year old to prison for criticizing him, he destroyed syria and arms the takfiris, he persecutes members of the gulen movement, which my family is a part of, simply because the judiciary made a probe into possible corruption by the akp, doing their jobs, and the majority of them were gulenists, he has shut down thousands of gulen owned schools, businesses, sent journalists to prison,  been in bed with saudi arabia and isis, bombs the kurds and refuses to let them fight the takfiris, he took over zaman newspaper for "promoting the pkk", said a de facto dictatorship worked in nazi germany and so it should work there, is helping the bombardment of yemen (fighting houthis), is arming boko haram, and is trying to change the constitution to turn turkey into a presidential system...and is shoving religion down a secular nation's throat. i am turkish and I HATE HATE HATE him....what do you think?

Erdogan is a power hungry fool he considers himself Muslim but doesn't even have the humility to apologize to Russia about the airplane the Turkish Army shot down. Also there were soooo many people that insulted the Prophet(SAWS) and he didn't respond with violence or suppressing them or killing them he let them walk free so Mr. Erdogan is not even following the Sunnah correctly to his own standards.

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32 minutes ago, Sinan said:

Erdogan is a dictator. He wants all the power in the executive branch, is censoring free speech and even passed laws saying "insulting content" can be shut down, he sent a 13 year old to prison for criticizing him, he destroyed syria and arms the takfiris, he persecutes members of the gulen movement, which my family is a part of, simply because the judiciary made a probe into possible corruption by the akp, doing their jobs, and the majority of them were gulenists, he has shut down thousands of gulen owned schools, businesses, sent journalists to prison,  been in bed with saudi arabia and isis, bombs the kurds and refuses to let them fight the takfiris, he took over zaman newspaper for "promoting the pkk", said a de facto dictatorship worked in nazi germany and so it should work there, is helping the bombardment of yemen (fighting houthis), is arming boko haram, and is trying to change the constitution to turn turkey into a presidential system...and is shoving religion down a secular nation's throat. i am turkish and I HATE HATE HATE him....what do you think?

Also, how are Turkish-Kurdish relations are there a lot of intermarriages are Kurds still religious Muslims in Turkey or has Erdogan made them become more distanced from Islam?

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36 minutes ago, Sinan said:

Erdogan is a dictator. He wants all the power in the executive branch, is censoring free speech and even passed laws saying "insulting content" can be shut down, he sent a 13 year old to prison for criticizing him, he destroyed syria and arms the takfiris, he persecutes members of the gulen movement, which my family is a part of, simply because the judiciary made a probe into possible corruption by the akp, doing their jobs, and the majority of them were gulenists, he has shut down thousands of gulen owned schools, businesses, sent journalists to prison,  been in bed with saudi arabia and isis, bombs the kurds and refuses to let them fight the takfiris, he took over zaman newspaper for "promoting the pkk", said a de facto dictatorship worked in nazi germany and so it should work there, is helping the bombardment of yemen (fighting houthis), is arming boko haram, and is trying to change the constitution to turn turkey into a presidential system...and is shoving religion down a secular nation's throat. i am turkish and I HATE HATE HATE him....what do you think?

I remember there was an authentic hadith by the Prophet(SAWS) that reads:

Accounting the Ruler

أَفْضَلُ الْجِهَادِ كَلِمَةُ عَدْلٍ عِنْدَ سُلْطَانٍ جَائِرٍ

The best Jihad is the word of Justice in front of the oppressive Sultan

(Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, ibn Maja)

Source/link: http://www.khilafah.com/daily-hadith-217/

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Salam

Once upon a time, I really liked him...but those days have gone and I only wait to see his downfall and it won't be long. He and his party wanted to bring a kind of Islamic Rule back to Turkey, but they used whatever means possible, and didn't care whether Islam allowed them or not. And I think they are so afraid of confessing their faults that they continue a failed plan to the very end.

They wanted to change Syria's government and the western countries and Israel really supported them, but they never expected things to get to this! Now, they find themselves in a fight and near war, and there is no western support! They see the end is near, but can't change the course now! They are destined to their doom and it is all because of their wrong decisions...

They wanted to bring Turkey back to its powerful military days...but they missed many points about the realities of this age! that Ottomans can't brought back...that nations want freedom and so much else.

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7 hours ago, Enlightened Follower said:

Erdogan is a power hungry fool he considers himself Muslim but doesn't even have the humility to apologize to Russia about the airplane.

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With all due respect brother, you are funny!  erDOGan MURDERED and displaced MILLIONS of Muslims and Christians in Syria/Iraq  and all you want this Hitler erDOGan to apologize to Russia for a jet? How can you or others even consider him a Muslim? Perhaps, he is fooling people with having his wife wear the Islamic Hijab? Anybody can claim to be a Muslim, but their actions and deeds what makes them Muslim, not what by what they claim.  A Muslim or a Christian will not kill another human being, let alone a genocide. Turkey is known for their genocide, how can we forget the genocide of Armenians by these coward  turkeys?

 

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8 hours ago, Sinan said:

Erdogan is a dictator. He wants all the power in the executive branch, is censoring free speech and even passed laws saying "insulting content" can be shut down, he sent a 13 year old to prison for criticizing him, he destroyed syria and arms the takfiris, he persecutes members of the gulen movement, which my family is a part of, simply because the judiciary made a probe into possible corruption by the akp, doing their jobs, and the majority of them were gulenists, he has shut down thousands of gulen owned schools, businesses, sent journalists to prison,  been in bed with saudi arabia and isis, bombs the kurds and refuses to let them fight the takfiris, he took over zaman newspaper for "promoting the pkk", said a de facto dictatorship worked in nazi germany and so it should work there, is helping the bombardment of yemen (fighting houthis), is arming boko haram, and is trying to change the constitution to turn turkey into a presidential system...and is shoving religion down a secular nation's throat. i am turkish and I HATE HATE HATE him....what do you think?

Come to think of it, Did Hitler ever vacation in Turkey? If I was a turk, I would check erDOGan's DNA to see if he is Hitler's son.

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14 minutes ago, 12reasons4truth. said:

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With all due respect brother, you are funny!  erDOGan MURDERED and displaced MILLIONS of Muslims and Christians in Syria/Iraq  and all you want this Hitler erDOGan to apologize to Russia for a jet? How can you or others even consider him a Muslim? Perhaps, he is fooling people with having his wife wear the Islamic Hijab? Anybody can claim to be a Muslim, but their actions and deeds what makes them Muslim, not what by what they claim.  A Muslim or a Christian will not kill another human being, let alone a genocide. Turkey is known for their genocide, how can we forget the genocide of Armenians by these coward  turkeys?

 

The sad thing is when Ottoman Empire adopted secular nationalism the genocides started to happen before there was no conflict between neighboring ethnicities.

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13 hours ago, Enlightened Follower said:

Also, how are Turkish-Kurdish relations are there a lot of intermarriages are Kurds still religious Muslims in Turkey or has Erdogan made them become more distanced from Islam?

Many Kurds vote for the HDP, a party which is democratic socialist, feminist, and pro-LGBT. They even have a 50 percent quota for women in their party and a 10 percent quota for LGBT individuals. My uncle is a Kurd and my aunt is a Turk, but Im not sure if it is common.

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Savior of Ottoman 'Islam', Erdogan is Now Exposed! MASK HAS COME OFF! / Independent Islamic Republic / 2 minutes 32 seconds

 

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On 3/29/2024 at 9:21 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

Savior of Ottoman

Who gave him that title? :hahaha:
 

6 minutes ago, root said:

Paper muslim.....bought and paid for!

I’m glad he lost but u heard the other one is Zionist too so there is no results in the end.

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3 hours ago, Diaz said:

I’m glad he lost but u heard the other one is Zionist too so there is no results in the end.

 

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Turkey’s main opposition party has claimed victory in Istanbul and Ankara in local elections, inflicting the biggest defeat on President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party (AK Party) in more than two decades.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/31/turkeys-opposition-set-to-hold-power-in-major-cities-partial-results-show

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Modern “political Islam” is in general a walking corpse, a hopeless anachronism, a dead end with nothing to offer the world, an embarrassing failure everywhere it’s been tried. Erdogan is just another in a line of failed figureheads leading these sorts of movements. 

May these false idols pass from the pages of history. And soon. Far too much time has been lost, far too many nations destroyed or stagnated, far too many lives lost or crushed in the name of this mistaken vision of Islam.

With these sorts of historical mistakes abandoned, we can hopefully go back to the drawing board to craft a better vision of what Islam can be and what it can offer humanity in the 21st century and beyond. 

 

 

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Top lessons from Turkey's shock election result

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The opposition CHP made gains even in conservative strongholds
The opposition CHP made gains even in conservative strongholds© YASIN AKGUL

Turkey's local elections on Sunday, a key popula

Turkey's local elections on Sunday, a key popularity test for Recep Tayyip Erdogan's ruling party, saw the opposition rebound from its presidential election defeat last year and support for Erdogan's conservative Islamic AKP tumble to its lowest ever.

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Here are some key points to know about the result:

- CHP locks down big cities -

Candidates from the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) buttressed their control of Turkey's largest city Istanbul and the capital Ankara with higher vote shares than five years ago.

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In 2019, CHP candidate Ekrem Imamoglu claimed the mayor's seat in Istanbul even after the vote had to be re-run -- but was faced with a municipal assembly dominated by AKP and its right-wing allies.

On Sunday, the centre-left wrested control of 26 out of 39 Istanbul districts, up from 14 five years ago, and notably including Erdogan's home turf in conservative Uskudar.

 

- Opposition pushes inland -

In the past, pro-government media was able to mock the CHP as the "party of beaches and villas with swimming pools", as its support was strongest on Turkey's prosperous western shores on the Aegean and the Mediterranean. 

But its push Sunday inland into Anatolia could help shake off that elitist reputation, as it took power in places like northwestern industrial city Bursa and Adiyaman, the southeastern city struck by a devastating earthquake in February 2023.

"Despite skewed rules to the game, (AKP) candidates lost even in conservative strongholds," said Berk Esen, a political scientist at Istanbul's Sabanci University.

In AKP bastions that held firm, such as Trabzon and Rize on the northeastern Black Sea coast, important districts came under opposition control.

- Erdogan outflanked to the right -

Erdogan's AKP faced stiff competition from the Islam-based Yeniden Refah (New Welfare) Party, which received 6.2 percent of the vote to claim third place nationwide, according to near-final results.

 

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New Welfare was founded in 2018 by the son of legendary Islamist leader Necmettin Erbakan, a mentor who inspired Erdogan with his "Nationalist View" ideology merging Turkish nationalist and Islamic identities.

New Welfare toppled AKP from its strongholds of Sanliurfa in the southeast and Yozgat in central Anatolia and split the right-wing vote in Istanbul's Uskudar, helping CHP over the line.

Its leader Fatih Erbakan has attacked Erdogan especially for maintaining Turkish trade with Israel despite the war in Gaza.

"The result of this election was decided by the behaviour of those who continued to trade freely with Israel and the Zionist murderers," he said Sunday.

- Erdogan humbled -

Although he avoided uttering the word "defeat", Erdogan said Sunday's vote was a "turning point" for his party after two decades in power.

The powerful Turkish leader had said earlier in March that these elections would be his last -- although some analysts saw the declaration as a ruse to convince Turks to give him one more blank check.

 
 
 

Erdogan said Sunday his party would engage in self-criticism and learn lessons from election outcome.

Yeniden Refah's success "could change Erdogan's calculus (and) reshuffle his electoral alliance" after it outperformed his nationalist ally MHP, said Gonul Tol of the Middle East Institute in Washington.

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On 4/1/2024 at 8:40 AM, kadhim said:

Modern “political Islam” is in general a walking corpse, a hopeless anachronism, a dead end with nothing to offer the world, an embarrassing failure everywhere it’s been tried. Erdogan is just another in a line of failed figureheads leading these sorts of movements. 

May these false idols pass from the pages of history. And soon. Far too much time has been lost, far too many nations destroyed or stagnated, far too many lives lost or crushed in the name of this mistaken vision of Islam.

With these sorts of historical mistakes abandoned, we can hopefully go back to the drawing board to craft a better vision of what Islam can be and what it can offer humanity in the 21st century and beyond. 

 

 

Salam Erdogan is not representative of modern “political Islam” which he offers anything except Islam & “political Islam” which you are hopefully  wishing of go back Islam to stone age which is just good for cavemen just due to misunderstanding  & hatred from Modern “political Islam”  which in opposition to your claim Modern “political Islam” which has been offered by Imam Khomeini (رضي الله عنه) is totally prosperos although of enmity people likewise you with it which people likewise you have tried to make a false image of Modern “political Islam” by promotion of American Islam of Turkey & people likewise Erdogan  as Modern “political Islam” & it's figurehed in similar fashion which cursed Shaitan has tried to show distorted image of any good thing from faith likewise you . 

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