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The American Quran Pissing Off the Saudis

 

A new translation of the Quran, with commentary, is causing a stir—and maybe something of a revolution—in the world of English-speaking Muslims.

Why’s that? Because Salafists—adherents of a very conservative brand of Islam—have dominated the world market for Qurans for decades.

Funded by the oil-rich royal family in Saudi Arabia, which has an especially rigid Wahhabi branch of Islam, the Salafis have exported their teachers, their mosques, their audio and video productions, and religious texts across the Arab world and into Pakistan, Europe, and North America, quashing alternate interpretations that don’t fit their narrow views.

The Study Quran, setting the record straight, may come as something of a revelation to Muslims and anyone else interested in Islam who speaks English. It is a formidable academic endeavor, and since it was published in November it has been flying off the shelves in a massive hardback edition. (It is also available now on Kindle.)

 

The editors have compiled a new translation, new commentary, and drawn on dozens of the most prominent mufassirs (interpreters or exegetes), many of whom have never before been accessible to an English-speaking audience. Indeed, “very few” of the sources cited in The Study Quran are available in English translation, head editor Seyyed Hossein Nasr told The Daily Beast.

One soon comes across nuances that are unmentioned or ignored by extremists. The Study Quran notes, for instance, that verse 47:4—used by ISIS to justify beheadings—focuses on “the brevity of the act, as it is confined to battle and not a continuous command.” This interpretation would seem to challenge extremists who attempt to carry out such acts on civilians, whether on the streets of London or in Syria.

 

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/29/the-american-quran-pissing-off-the-saudis.html 

 

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24 minutes ago, starlight said:

One soon comes across nuances that are unmentioned or ignored by extremists. The Study Quran notes, for instance, that verse 47:4—used by ISIS to justify beheadings—focuses on “the brevity of the act, as it is confined to battle and not a continuous command.” This interpretation would seem to challenge extremists who attempt to carry out such acts on civilians, whether on the streets of London or in Syria.

 

this is over exaggeration of what the "murican" quran offers and "non murican" quran offers. It is a shame that we use our hate to the saudis and wahhabis to beat down our holy book.

down to murican Quran. there is only one book and there is ahlulbayt to guid us through. we dont need najis muricans to play the white angel nor the enlightened reformist and saviour of muslims. 

with all due respect to the author of the book

لا يجرمنكم شنئان قوم الا تعدلوا

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.

 

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I bought this "Study Quran" in February. The note on the 'Editorial Board' has:

Seyyed Hossein Nasr - has authored books "... lslamic philosophy, mysticism, art and science as well as comparative religion...". Nasr authored a book entitled The Garden of Truth: The Vision and Promise of Sufism (2007).

Caner K. Dagli- "... is a specialist in Sufism, lslamic philosophy, interfaith dialogue and Quranic studies."

Maria Massi Dakake- "... specializing in Shiism, Sufism, Islamic philosophy and theology ... and issues related to wiomen and the feminine in classical lslam."

Joseph E.B. Lumbard-  "A specialist in Quranic studies, Sufism, Islamic philosophy, comparative theology and lslamic ecotheology". He also wrote a book on Ahmad al-Ghazali.

Mohammed Rustom- "... specializes in Sufism, lslamic philosophy and theology, and Quranic exegesis."

Note: "Quranic exegesis": exegesis is the critical explanation or analysis of some written work. The "somehow, something else applies or comes-into-play". When exegesis is "Quranic", it is talking down/attacking what is revealed.

On page xxvii, it has "..the Quran is also a guide for the inner spiritual life." which contradicts Quran, exempli gratiae, warnings about poets, wandering in Mind, adding to what is revealed, etc.

Another sin by the authors: on page xxx,  they write about Isa-as as "... (Isa-as)himself is considered to be the Word of God or Logos...:  which is one Book of John theme (see: the Problem of John  in seminary studies) and contradicts Sura 18:51-52(from notes); which like translations of Ruh from the Quran are "Trinitizations" (making Quranic revelation into a trinity theme). The mysticism of John Chap 1 comes from pagan philosophy.

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4 hours ago, starlight said:

 

The American Quran Pissing Off the Saudis

 

A new translation of the Quran, with commentary, is causing a stir—and maybe something of a revolution—in the world of English-speaking Muslims.

Why’s that? Because Salafists—adherents of a very conservative brand of Islam—have dominated the world market for Qurans for decades.

Funded by the oil-rich royal family in Saudi Arabia, which has an especially rigid Wahhabi branch of Islam, the Salafis have exported their teachers, their mosques, their audio and video productions, and religious texts across the Arab world and into Pakistan, Europe, and North America, quashing alternate interpretations that don’t fit their narrow views.

The Study Quran, setting the record straight, may come as something of a revelation to Muslims and anyone else interested in Islam who speaks English. It is a formidable academic endeavor, and since it was published in November it has been flying off the shelves in a massive hardback edition. (It is also available now on Kindle.)

 

The editors have compiled a new translation, new commentary, and drawn on dozens of the most prominent mufassirs (interpreters or exegetes), many of whom have never before been accessible to an English-speaking audience. Indeed, “very few” of the sources cited in The Study Quran are available in English translation, head editor Seyyed Hossein Nasr told The Daily Beast.

One soon comes across nuances that are unmentioned or ignored by extremists. The Study Quran notes, for instance, that verse 47:4—used by ISIS to justify beheadings—focuses on “the brevity of the act, as it is confined to battle and not a continuous command.” This interpretation would seem to challenge extremists who attempt to carry out such acts on civilians, whether on the streets of London or in Syria.

 

Full article : http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/29/the-american-quran-pissing-off-the-saudis.html 

 

Thank you for the good news, this newly translated Quran puts these head chopping wahabi terrorists out of terror business, that's why they are pissed...... don't worry, their end is very near INSHALLAH.

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I am glad Quran was maintained in arabic language through out the caliphates and time , this is the best thing ever done , other wise you would see many people claiming they have the real quran and misguiding people like what happen with the bible . 

 

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52 minutes ago, sakura1994 said:

I am glad Quran was maintained in arabic language through out the caliphates and time , this is the best thing ever done , other wise you would see many people claiming they have the real quran and misguiding people like what happen with the bible . 

 

Salam,

It is sad to say those who are misguiding people the most are the Wahabi Arabs themselves thru the Arabic Quran, thru their own interpretations.

This goes to show even if you are a native Arabic speaker, but have a sick mind, you can interpret Quran as you will, not how Allah wills it to be.

Having said that , no translation of the Quran does 100% justice to the Quran in Arabic.

Edited by certainclarity

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37 minutes ago, Ruq said:

??? this is how you talk Hossein Nasr?

I said with all respect to author. I dd not mean him. But there is an ongoing effort to change Quran, delete some verses from it or abandon classical tafsir in favour of new age rubbish. Those who are celebrating the book from non muslims do so because some traditionalist object on some of its point. But like a wahhabi coming to our forum, they dont get the argument the muslims are making so they fill their ignorance gap with their own rubbish.

Else, why would anyone call it American Quran?

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4 hours ago, certainclarity said:

Salam,

It is sad to say those who are misguiding people the most are the Wahabi Arabs themselves thru the Arabic Quran, thru their own interpretations.

This goes to show even if you are a native Arabic speaker, but have a sick mind, you can interpret Quran as you will, not how Allah wills it to be.

Having said that , no translation of the Quran does 100% justice to the Quran in Arabic.

actually wahabi and salafits are minority in muslim world , the problem is that they control the most valuable places for muslims which is mecca and Medina , and USA support saudi family to keep promoting those ideologies into the muslim world and off course people truth them cuz they think they are holy people who live in holy place , when in face they are the most corrupt . 

I am only follow Quran and I refuse claim myself into any sects . I believe that sects will lead to the destruction of this ummah .

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2 hours ago, Chaotic Muslem said:

I said with all respect to author. I dd not mean him. But there is an ongoing effort to change Quran, delete some verses from it or abandon classical tafsir in favour of new age rubbish. Those who are celebrating the book from non muslims do so because some traditionalist object on some of its point. But like a wahhabi coming to our forum, they dont get the argument the muslims are making so they fill their ignorance gap with their own rubbish.

Else, why would anyone call it American Quran?

Its not called 'The American Quran', its called 'The Study Quran' and its a Muslim endeavour. What verses have they deleted? where have they 'abandoned classical tafseer' in their notes?

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14 hours ago, starlight said:

 

The American Quran Pissing Off the Saudis

 

A new translation of the Quran, with commentary, is causing a stir—and maybe something of a revolution—in the world of English-speaking Muslims.

Why’s that? Because Salafists—adherents of a very conservative brand of Islam—have dominated the world market for Qurans for decades.

Funded by the oil-rich royal family in Saudi Arabia, which has an especially rigid Wahhabi branch of Islam, the Salafis have exported their teachers, their mosques, their audio and video productions, and religious texts across the Arab world and into Pakistan, Europe, and North America, quashing alternate interpretations that don’t fit their narrow views.

The Study Quran, setting the record straight, may come as something of a revelation to Muslims and anyone else interested in Islam who speaks English. It is a formidable academic endeavor, and since it was published in November it has been flying off the shelves in a massive hardback edition. (It is also available now on Kindle.)

 

The editors have compiled a new translation, new commentary, and drawn on dozens of the most prominent mufassirs (interpreters or exegetes), many of whom have never before been accessible to an English-speaking audience. Indeed, “very few” of the sources cited in The Study Quran are available in English translation, head editor Seyyed Hossein Nasr told The Daily Beast.

One soon comes across nuances that are unmentioned or ignored by extremists. The Study Quran notes, for instance, that verse 47:4—used by ISIS to justify beheadings—focuses on “the brevity of the act, as it is confined to battle and not a continuous command.” This interpretation would seem to challenge extremists who attempt to carry out such acts on civilians, whether on the streets of London or in Syria.

 

Full article : 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/29/the-american-quran-pissing-off-the-saudis.html 

 

Salam, 

Mash'Allah, the Salafis now have to engage in a logical debate with actual Sunni and Shia scholars in which they know they will lose every time, hence why they always have to resort to violence.

The Salafis are more of a reactionary group who want to plug their fingers in their ear rather than hoist a debate against qualified scholars.

Edited by Enlightened Follower

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7 hours ago, Ruq said:

Its not called 'The American Quran', its called 'The Study Quran' and its a Muslim endeavour. What verses have they deleted? where have they 'abandoned classical tafseer' in their notes?

xD

Ruq

IAM NOT ATTACKING THE STUDY QUR'AN

 

I am saying that in the title of this article and in the content of this article there is something insister plus some ignorance

no tafsir of Qur'an using the hadith say that Muslims should kill non Muslims unconditionally. Wahhabis or not. ISIS

are drug addict and mercenaries paid by kfirs and their deeds ahould not be taken as the standard Muslim understanding of religion.

Then there is legitimate concerns regarding the content of the study Qur'an and you may find both Sunni and shia disagreeing with the book which I natural and it I the way Muslim dealt with each other. We often read what's written regarding religion with scrutiny. But if everyone disagreeing with tho book is going to be called wahhabis then we are no Muslim anymore. We have sold our brains to the corporations.

The calls to erase some verses are not in that book nor were made by the author. There were calls though by others and some meetings and conferences.

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