haram or not

[Azim Hussain]

this might sound stupid but i am serious

"Take no small sin lightly, for mountains are made up of sands." imam ali

is using my neighbors haram?

like he doesnt know that i am using his wifi cause i guessed his password right and i know that he has an unlimited data plan and me using it wouldnt add to his costs

and plus i use his wifi mostly for studies and learning about islam and stuff .

[Guest]

Salam, 

I think this is morally wrong and would not be right islamically. 

[Noorelhussain]

Assalamo Alayekom.

I believe it is not right as you are using something that belongs to someone else, without their permission.

[Akbar673]

34 minutes ago, Azim Hussain said:

this might sound stupid but i am serious

"Take no small sin lightly, for mountains are made up of sands." imam ali

is using my neighbors haram?

like he doesnt know that i am using his wifi cause i guessed his password right and i know that he has an unlimited data plan and me using it wouldnt add to his costs

and plus i use his wifi mostly for studies and learning about islam and stuff .

Stealing

[Azim Hussain]

how sad may god forgive ..ill pray for my neighbors may he become a muslim and goes to heaven ..my prayers should compensate for the money inshallah 

[Akbar673]

23 minutes ago, Azim Hussain said:

how sad may god forgive ..ill pray for my neighbors may he become a muslim and goes to heaven ..my prayers should compensate for the money inshallah 

Just anonymously leave some money on his doorstep or mailbox.

[Irfani313]

More devices on same network affect the data downloads and uploads. So it does affect him even though he may some time notice or not notice it. Just ask him if you could use his wifi, he may not say no and share the password anyway.

I guess the only thing free you could get is air and light

 

[Azim Hussain]

14 hours ago, Irfani313 said:

More devices on same network affect the data downloads and uploads. So it does affect him even though he may some time notice or not notice it. Just ask him if you could use his wifi, he may not say no and share the password anyway.

I guess the only thing free you could get is air and light

 

he has an unlimited data plan

[Salman Haqiqi]

Why don't you just go there and apologize and promise you won't do it again. I don't suppose that to be too costly. 

Plus, he might give you a permission to keep using his wifi [wink wink]!

[Irfani313]

Dear brother - unlimited data plan means he can download and upload as much data as he wants to.

But more devices logged into his wifi would slow the speed of his downloads and uploads, which you are responsible for.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

On 2/23/2016 at 11:29 AM, Azim Hussain said:

this might sound stupid but i am serious

"Take no small sin lightly, for mountains are made up of sands." imam ali

is using my neighbors haram?

like he doesnt know that i am using his wifi cause i guessed his password right and i know that he has an unlimited data plan and me using it wouldnt add to his costs

and plus i use his wifi mostly for studies and learning about islam and stuff .

It is essentially stealing and a good way to ruin someone's trust, sister, regardless of what you study and whether the wifi is free. 

[Bakir]

Heheh, it is evidently wrong. Internet access is a must for studying nowaday. You should either get a plan yourself or tell your parenrs to get an internet plan for home, because it is a very fundamental basic tool. It is not expensive either, usually.

[Azim Hussain]

11 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

It is essentially stealing and a good way to ruin someone's trust, sister, regardless of what you study and whether the wifi is free. 

i dropped some money on his doorsteps and i am a boy

[Azim Hussain]

7 hours ago, Bakir said:

Heheh, it is evidently wrong. Internet access is a must for studying nowaday. You should either get a plan yourself or tell your parenrs to get an internet plan for home, because it is a very fundamental basic tool. It is not expensive either, usually.

yeah ik but ..i am just too lazy to go and recharge every month.. i cant do online payment cause i dont have a credit card  i am not 18 yet

[Guest]

On 2/25/2016 at 0:34 PM, Azim Hussain said:

yeah ik but ..i am just too lazy to go and recharge every month.. i cant do online payment cause i dont have a credit card  i am not 18 yet

What??? It took me some time to get over the shock after reading your reply...... you are not 18 yet and you find going out to recharge your internet every month too much to handle??? Young people have lots of time on their hand and ......both time and energy.....

[Azim Hussain]

55 minutes ago, starlight said:

What??? It took me some time to get over the shock after reading your reply...... you are not 18 yet and you find going out to recharge your internet every month too much to handle??? Young people have lots of time on their hand and ......both time and energy.....

i am struggling with studies rn and also i guessed my neighbors password right so why soo much work

Edited February 25, 2016 by Azim Hussain

[certainclarity]

Salam,

I did not like the hassle for signing up for contracts etc.

So I went up to my neighbour and told them I am willing to pay them a certain amount every month, to share their internet connection.

This way, I saved myself the hassle of contract, and they got to slash their bill.

Every month I would drop by to give them their share.

[5a49]

Of course its Haram your using another persons data.

Data isnt free.

[Rohani]

On 24/02/2016 at 3:28 AM, Azim Hussain said:

he has an unlimited data plan

Go ask his permission. Or log off. 

If someone entered your fridge and took some of your food would you consider it ok?  Let's say that person knows u have unlimited income for a year that supplies your food each month?  Most people who have a job and a budget know they will have enough income for food each month.

Edited February 27, 2016 by Rohani

[Azim Hussain]

5 hours ago, Rohani said:

Go ask his permission. Or log off. 

If someone entered your fridge and took some of your food would you consider it ok?  Let's say that person knows u have unlimited income for a year that supplies your food each month?  Most people who have a job and a budget know they will have enough income for food each month.

ruined my day

[Salman Haqiqi]

On 2/27/2016 at 7:10 PM, Rohani said:

Go ask his permission. Or log off. 

If someone entered your fridge and took some of your food would you consider it ok?  Let's say that person knows u have unlimited income for a year that supplies your food each month?  Most people who have a job and a budget know they will have enough income for food each month.

Hey, hey, hey! No need to be so rough! Poor boy knows his done wrong to someone.

And by the way your example (not saying the your argument) is totally different with his circumstance. In your example what the guy does is absolutely wrong, because he violates someone's access to quick food, and the privacy of their fridge (do we have such a thing? :-) ) He is not violating anyone's privacy nor blocking the neighbor from internt access.

On 2/27/2016 at 0:19 AM, Azim Hussain said:

ruined my day

Still, this is using someone's property, just like walking on their land or reading their books. You need to apologize unless it leads to a bigger sin or a great fight, in which case you just stop doing what you have done and try to make it up for that someone, and ask God's forgiveness for your and their sins.