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js47

Condolences and advice

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To all Shia on this board: first my condolences from the United States to any of you who were touched by the brutal murder of Sheikh al-Nimr in Saudi Arabia. I am not a Shia or a Muslim but a human being who is disgusted by what took place and disgusted that our leaders here in this country do not have the courage to condemn this act of barbarism. I understand as well as you do that there is more at play behind the scenes and we all know that the US, for its faults, does not actually want anyone to be beheaded, let alone an innocent and holy man like the Sheikh. We are greedy and deceitful beings - all of us - and evidently whatever Saudi Arabia does for the US is calculated to be worth our morals and decency as a nation. I've said it before: some day, historians will look down on the US during this period for being so nakedly self-serving to the point of enabling medieval barbarism.

That brings me to the second thing I want to say: please do not judge Americans by the conduct of our government. I know many of you are probably American but many are not, and the America you see on television and read about in editorials, kissing the ring of King Abdullah/Salamander and bombing people with robots. The truth is that most of us are too busy or too stubborn or unfortunately too ignorant to think a moment about the significance of what America does abroad. A large part of that is due to our history and our geography; we've never been invaded and most of us think that war is something that happens "over there" to "those people" because the media and even society feeds us that notion to keep us from knowing better.

So the focus of attention in America shifted immediately from an inconvenient truth (that our "ally" "over there" is a deceitful barbarian) to a welcome truism (Iran cannot be trusted and doesn't respect international norms because it is radical). At best, or perhaps worst, you might hear a commentator speak of it as though Saudi and Iran are equally to blame or equally radical and bad. "The Shia and Sunni never get along," etc. Sadly you may even hear "well, they're fighting each other..." as though the Iraq-Iran War was a glaring success and not a bloody atrocity. All that Americans (and many other Westerners, but particularly Americans) understand is that Muslims seem to be engaging in violence everywhere. They don't know or ask which Muslims or what they are fighting about because if you work a 9-5 job and have to raise kids and pay your bills and all that, you don't think you have the time to learn about some exotic far away conflict; you just think: Muslims fight, it's what they do!

This takes me to the third point I'd like to raise: that the Iranian reaction and prominent Shia reactions in general have either served the enemy's purpose and played into Saudi hands, or otherwise focused on the wrong things. I won't waste your time explaining how burning the Saudi flag/embassy is counterproductive or why cursing Saudi's Western enablers for supporting evil won't win converts.

Please keep a level head now and in the immediate future - as Shia usually do - because if you do, you will win. What Saudi represents and supports is not only disgusting; it's unsustainable even in the medium run. This doesn't mean I encourage you to lie down and take it or to be silent; rather, I am encouraging you to operate within the bounds and norms of the law to shed the light on Saudi evil. Don't walk into the trap they set out of desparation; fight only from a position of strength when you are guaranteed a victory. You already have what is just on your side, just be patient with us and give us time to catch up! I know you will because as I mentioned previously, Shia are always at the receiving end of the salafi nonsense. They get attacked by salafi and then called a terrorist by the salafi governments in the Middle East. Eventually the superiority of Shia morality and intellect will lead to victory; I am not Shia and I can see that 10000 miles away.*

A caveat: give em hell where they already are in Iraq and Syria!

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