End of ISIS? 'Demoralised' jihadis fleeing as Putin's bombing blitz cripples terror group

[Ali_Hussain]

End of ISIS? 'Demoralised' jihadis fleeing as Putin's bombing blitz cripples terror group

MASS desertions from Islamic State (ISIS) terror cells in Syria have crippled the jihadi group, possibly spelling the end of the barbaric self-styled caliphate, Moscow's Defence Ministry said today.

Life under the cruel extremists is so tough that many once-committed militants are now fleeing ISIS territory for safety elsewhere in the region.

Strict rules and cruel punishments for breaking them have prompted desertions "en-masse" from jihadi training camps.

The aerial bombardment from Russian and US-backed coalition warplanes has also taken its toll.

Senior Russian General Andrey Kartapolov told a briefing: "The majority of armed gangs are demoralised - discontent with field commanders is growing amid the fighters, and there are instances of disobeying orders."

He added that cases of desertion among the jihadists were no longer isolated, with entire groups of extremist militants now abandoning the self-styled caliphate "en-masse".

News that Vladimir Putin has Russia's deadliest weapon yet in the fight against ISIS is only likely to speed up the desertion of fighters.

Express.co.uk reported how the 'Blazing Sun' flamethrower missile launcher was to be mobilised as part of the increasingly savage battle to destroy ISIS terrorists waging war in Syria.

For several days, experts have warned that the jihadi group's power appeared to be waning.

On Wednesday, General Igor Konashenkov, a spokesman for the Russian Defence Ministry, suggested that the group was on the verge of defeat after Russia cut off its arm supplies.

Dozens of sorties and hundreds of air strikes on ISIS and rebel targets in Syria has dealt a severe blow to the once-mighty terror network, which once boasted swaths of territory across Iraq and northern Syria.

Islamist fanatics are increasingly abandoning key positions as Russian jets pound the beleaguered group's arms depots, suicide bomb factories and heavy weaponry.

It comes as Turkey shot down a drone, thought to be Russian, in an incident highlighting the dangers of multiple air combat operations over Syria.

Turkey's military said its jets shot down an unidentified drone in Turkish air space near Syria on Friday.

A US official said Washington believed it was of Russian origin, but the Russian defence ministry said all of its planes in Syria had safely returned to base and that all its drones were operating "as planned"

NATO said Turkey was investigating where the drone came from.

Turkey has already complained of Russian warplanes violating its air apace along the border with Syria earlier this month.

The Russian Defence Ministry said later on Friday it had established direct contact with the Turkish military to avoid incidents with flights near the border.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/612639/Islamic-State-crippled-mass-desertions-militants-flee-barbaric-terror-group

[Gaius I. Caesar]

It is interesting to note while Russia is destroying Daesh, America still supports the "moderate" rebels and keeps its ties with Saudi Arabia, which funds Taliban, Al-Qaida, etc.while claiming to "fight" the terrorists.

Edited January 3, 2016 by Gaius I. Caesar

[notme]

That would be great, but I'm skeptical.

[hasanhh]

The ISIL scum will now individually "go home", try to "migrate" to avoid capture, form other crime groups (they began as mass-released convicts), or join other 'Islamic' groups.

As for the 'fleeing' and 'demoralization' ...

[Haji 2003]

Patrick Cockburn:

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The war in Iraq may become more like the war in Afghanistan over the coming years.

Isis forces in fixed and identifiable positions cannot withstand ground assaults backed with intense air attacks by the US Air Force or, in the case of the Syrian army, by the Russians.

The last extreme-fundamentalist Sunni state in the wider Middle East found this out in 2001 when US air strikes in support of the numerically smaller Northern Alliance overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Like the Afghan Taliban, Isis may progressively revert to guerrilla war, in which it can best use its highly committed and well-trained fighters without suffering heavy losses.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/isis-may-be-weakened-by-co-ordinated-attacks-but-it-is-far-from-being-overcome-a6793986.html

[Skanderbeg]

I'd love to see that scum run. 

[Highflyer]

not  yet the whole area should  get cleared.

[Ali_Hussain]

5 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Patrick Cockburn:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/isis-may-be-weakened-by-co-ordinated-attacks-but-it-is-far-from-being-overcome-a6793986.html

I wouldn't imagine that it would be as easy in Iraq to wage a sustained guerrilla war as it would be in Afghanistan, because the terrains are so different. It will all the depend on how serious the local tribes are about getting rid of ISIS.

[5a49]

"End of ISIS?"

 

Please lets not be gullible. End of ISIS? Its a loooong journey people. Lets not be like them, its been 5 years and theyre saying "end of Bashar al Assad era".

[Renaissance_Man]

Unfortunately, even if ISIS is defeated on the battlefield they'll exist in some form as long as their Saudi patrons continue to finance them.  And given the recent flare up with Iran, you can bet the Saudis and their gulf allies will ramp up the support to terror groups to counter Iran.

[Chris]

Putin has and continues to humiliate Erdogan and he is going to punish Turkey, badly.

It seems the rebels are facing a crushing defeat now that the Russians have coordinated attacks with the Syrian Army.

Anyone who believes the US or Saudi is fighting ISIS in Syria is very naive.

Without the Kingdom of Terrorism (Saudi Arabia), there would be no ISIS, Taliban, Abu Sayyaf, Boko Haram, Jabhat Nusra, etc.

[Umayyad]

Russia and Putin has mostly been bombing rebels and not ISIS. 

[smitbar]

20 minutes ago, Umayyad said:

Russia and Putin has mostly been bombing rebels and not ISIS. 

This is what the UK media is telling people, it is getting difficult to understand or believe anything the media tells us ;)

[Zigzag]

Four-fifths of Russia's Syria strikes don't target Islamic State: Reuters analysis

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-strikes-idUSKCN0SF24L20151021

Edited February 7, 2016 by Zigzag

[Umayyad]

47 minutes ago, Zigzag said:

Four-fifths of Russia's Syria strikes don't target Islamic State: Reuters analysis

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-strikes-idUSKCN0SF24L20151021

"If you look at the map, you can easily understand that they are not fighting Islamic State but other opposition groups," said Alexander Golts, a Moscow-based defense columnist and deputy editor of online newspaper Yezhednevny Zhurnal.

The data supports assertions from Washington and its NATO allies that Russia's intervention in Syria, its biggest military deployment abroad since the collapse of the Soviet Union, is designed to prop up Assad, who flew to Moscow on Tuesday to thank Putin for his support.

Moscow's other possible motives could be to maintain a strategic foothold in the Middle East and showcase itself as a global military power at a time when relations with the West have sunk to a post-Soviet low over the crisis in Ukraine.

Russian officials have rejected the accusations and repeatedly stressed that they are targeting Islamic State, alongside other groups they classify as Islamist terrorists. They say Moscow and the West are fighting a common enemy.

However, the pattern of the strikes in Syria suggests a different picture.

 

Good read thanks

[5a49]

3 minutes ago, Umayyad said:

"If you look at the map, you can easily understand that they are not fighting Islamic State but other opposition groups," said Alexander Golts, a Moscow-based defense columnist and deputy editor of online newspaper Yezhednevny Zhurnal.

Which is a journal that is in opposition of Putin and the current political system in Russia.

Second, even if they were attacking rebels. I don't see the difference of what is called "rebels", or Nusra Front, or ISIS. Same pieces of sh*t, different smell

[Umayyad]

10 minutes ago, John Al-Ameli said:

Which is a journal that is in opposition of Putin and the current political system in Russia.

Second, even if they were attacking rebels. I don't see the difference of what is called "rebels", or Nusra Front, or ISIS. Same pieces of sh*t, different smell

That is because you are blinded by your shi3i biasness. Also you should have better akhlaq  i assume you are older than 15.

[5a49]

18 minutes ago, Umayyad said:

That is because you are blinded by your shi3i biasness. Also you should have better akhlaq  i assume you are older than 15.

I'm only using the same words your idols wished upon themselves.

سجل التاريخ لابي بكر مثل هذا، قال لما نظر أبوبكر إلى طائر على شجرة: طوبى لك ياطائر تأكل الثمر وتقع على الشجر وما من حساب ولا عقاب عليك، لوددت أني شجرة على جانب الطريق مر علي جمل فأكلني وأخرجني في بعره ولم أكن من البشر

تاريخ الطبري ص 41. الرياض النضرة ج 1 ص 134.

Edited February 8, 2016 by John Al-Ameli

[Amina]

Salam everyone,

Isn't it a bit strange that US and NATO are fighting "strongly" and "with all their military strength" (which should be considerable) against Daesh savages in Syria FOR YEARS and - NOTHING happens, and the moment Russia enters the conflict and fights the same Daesh but also other jihadis in Syria - and after just FEW MONTHS the situations is COMPLETELY changed! 

Amidst constant accusations, insinuations, verbal attacks, lies and false "proofs" (many forged maps, airplane footage, diagrams and God knows what else) that NATO and it's servants are feeding us with daily, aimed at proving that Russia and Putin are lying, cheeting, targeting the friendly "moderate opposition"in Syria (what on Earth do those words mean?!) and generally making the situation in Sytia "more dangerous, more chaotic, more volatile", more - everything bad, AND YET that same Russia, amid constant insults and occasional downing of it's war planes and killing of it's pilots in murky circumstances by treacherous lackey snake-state of the region - and yet, Russia manages to turn the tables in a few short months, and achieve what NATO's "gigantic and sincere efforts" have strangely not been able to achieve in YEARS - they made Daesh fanatic hordes and other "friendly and moderate" takfeeri cut-throats FLEE in disarray! 

I mean, somehow the pictures and words that are pumped into our systems daily via "independent" and "free" media, get COMPLETELY OPPOSITE MEANING if you just switch off the sound and think with your own grey cells, without additional official "explanations" prepared (and pre-chewed) for millions of us poor morons watching the "news" worldwide...

Well, the plan of constructing an excuse for waging the war on Russia because of it's "misconduct" in Syria has (almost) failed (in spite of all the shady efforts of loyal Ottomans), so I think now they shall have to revert to the other option - framing Russia for "invasion" of, say, Latvia or Lithuania, or even Belarus (all of whose governments are allready bought and ready to sell their peoples)... 

Anyway, when all those nice, pleasant, friendly and moderate blokes with loooong, tangled beards finally realize that they have lost their golden khaliphate, I hope they shall show a true and genuine Umayyad mercy to their old protectors and loan-payers... 

Such a strange world we are living in... Amidst all those good "friends" that we have, who from time to time turn out to be liars and munafiqeen, let's all turn to OUR  Creator and those few men (and women), who have NEVER lied to anyone, and say: Labbayk ya Allah, labbayk ya Mohammad, labbayk ya Hussayn, labbayk ya Qa'im aal Mohammad (as)!

Kindest regards and salams,

Amina

[Umayyad]

40 minutes ago, John Al-Ameli said:

I'm only using the same words your idols wished upon themselves.

سجل التاريخ لابي بكر مثل هذا، قال لما نظر أبوبكر إلى طائر على شجرة: طوبى لك ياطائر تأكل الثمر وتقع على الشجر وما من حساب ولا عقاب عليك، لوددت أني شجرة على جانب الطريق مر علي جمل فأكلني وأخرجني في بعره ولم أكن من البشر

تاريخ الطبري ص 41. الرياض النضرة ج 1 ص 134.

Not only no akhlaq but have issues to stay on topic, ohh my what a mess you are 

[Umayyad]

3 minutes ago, Amina said:

hat US and NATO are fighting "strongly" and "with all their military strength" (which should be considerable) against Daesh savages in Syria FOR YEARS and - NOTHING happens, and the moment Russia enters the conflict and fights the same Daesh but also other jihadis in Syria - and after just FEW MONTHS the situations is COMPLETELY changed! 

 

Russians are not fighting the same Da3sh, and nothing has changed with Da3sh thanks to russia. If anything Russia has helped Da3sh in russia by weakening the rebels who fought against Da3sh

[Amina]

Salam, Umayyad,

I guess that, in the end, that eternal, bottomless pit that exists between our two religions (Shi'a Islam and Umayyadism, the way I understand it) shall never let the two of us truly agree with anything that the other says - we both love our religious leaders too much...

I would very much like to write something optimistic and reach out a hand of friendship to you, in spite of all the differences of opinion, but I read the word "Umayyadism" and all I see (with my mortal eyes, my mortal heart and my immortal soul) are the sons (as) of our Prophet (sAawa), so truthfull, so poor, so abandoned, so innocent, sitting in Umayyad prisons just because of their noble lineage, their shackled hands raised in prayer, night after night, year after year...

Our faiths, it's morals and it's histories, are the fundament of all our opinions and decisions, and I have to admit openly that, even if you and I agreed on all political (and non-political) issues that are plaguing this Ummah these days and years, I would still feel, hidden deep in my heart, that small, eternal, unextinguished flame of sorrow, of anger, of hurt and of injustice for all that was done to those Sons of our Prophet (sAawa). And a part of me would always, untill the end of time, flinch and be shaken when I see that the man talking to me calls himself openly "an Umayyad" and his religion "Umayyadism"... 

So I am sorry, but this is the boundary of my soul, and I would rather die than abandon it for any worldly reason. Neither do I want to be a munafiqah and lie about what feel and believe. (But I also do not insult, curse or offend anybody.)

I guess that this means this is a first post that I have ever written here, that is negative because it is PERSONAL for me. 

I have never meant it to be offensive to you in any way, though.

If you are not angry and still want to chat, could you please explain to me shortly what IS Umayyadism? How can it be a religion? Is it for you a branch of Islam, linked to history of Umayyads, or something else? I ask you because I truly want to understand.

Fi amanillah,

Amina

[Umayyad]

5 minutes ago, Amina said:

Salam, Umayyad,

I guess that, in the end, that eternal, bottomless pit that exists between our two religions (Shi'a Islam and Umayyadism, the way I understand it) shall never let the two of us truly agree with anything that the other says - we both love our religious leaders too much...

I would very much like to write something optimistic and reach out a hand of friendship to you, in spite of all the differences of opinion, but I read the word "Umayyadism" and all I see (with my mortal eyes, my mortal heart and my immortal soul) are the sons (as) of our Prophet (sAawa), so truthfull, so poor, so abandoned, so innocent, sitting in Umayyad prisons just because of their noble lineage, their shackled hands raised in prayer, night after night, year after year...

Our faiths, it's morals and it's histories, are the fundament of all our opinions and decisions, and I have to admit openly that, even if you and I agreed on all political (and non-political) issues that are plaguing this Ummah these days and years, I would still feel, hidden deep in my heart, that small, eternal, unextinguished flame of sorrow, of anger, of hurt and of injustice for all that was done to those Sons of our Prophet (sAawa). And a part of me would always, untill the end of time, flinch and be shaken when I see that the man talking to me calls himself openly "an Umayyad" and his religion "Umayyadism"... 

So I am sorry, but this is the boundary of my soul, and I would rather die than abandon it for any worldly reason. Neither do I want to be a munafiqah and lie about what feel and believe. (But I also do not insult, curse or offend anybody.)

I guess that this means this is a first post that I have ever written here, that is negative because it is PERSONAL for me. 

I have never meant it to be offensive to you in any way, though.

If you are not angry and still want to chat, could you please explain to me shortly what IS Umayyadism? How can it be a religion? Is it for you a branch of Islam, linked to history of Umayyads, or something else? I ask you because I truly want to understand.

Fi amanillah,

Amina

Dont worry Sister Amina. I have enough Nuance to look past religious differences to not make them personal, my reply to you was simply that you were wrong on your analysis about syria.The very fact that you asked nicely instead of resorting to insults or red herrings shows you are somewhat firm in your belief and how no insecurities that would cause you to get personal (unlike a few people i have come across here, many great shiites on this forum dont get me wrong.) I pmed you what i mean by Ummayadism. 

Edited February 8, 2016 by Umayyad

[Amina]

Salam Umayyad, 

thank you for the - I think it was meant as a compliment, it really made me laugh - I am somewhat firm in my belief! May the Allmighty Lord judge me like that, too... 

Let us pray that we shall all be firm in our (true) belief, when the moment of choice comes...

Thank you for being so friendly, 

Kindest regards,

Amina

[The Green Knight]

This information of ISIS scattering to Russian bombing is only logical and true. Saudi, Turkish and 'Merican rabidness and recent aggressive maneuvers at Syria and Russia confirms it. They are hopping mad at Russia especially for intervening and striking at their demonic horde of ISIS.

[Chaotic Muslem]

ground troops will invade  Syria.....so basically the true face of this war is showing as the shadow armies are being defeated.

[Zigzag]

Russia admits targeting non-Isis groups in Syria as airstrikes continue

The developments appeared to support the widely held belief that Russia’s real purpose is to bolster the regime of Bashar al-Assad and stave off western demands that he step down to make way for a political solution to the bloody four-and-half-year-old conflict.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/01/russia-targeting-non-isis-groups-syria-airstrikes

 

[Zigzag]

And the latest on Aleppo,

Russian Bombing Takes Its Toll On Syrians

In one a little girl lay motionless, her eyes half open but unregistering.

Sarah is six and has not spoken since she was blown up in her house near Aleppo a few days ago.

.........

"The Russian bombing makes it impossible to stay. They attack everywhere," he said.

.........

Not all the injured in the hospital are civilians. Two men, separated from the others, were injured in separate attacks on the battlefields where they were fighting.

Certainly the Russian military would argue that as military combatants they are legitimate targets. That of course is true, but they were actually fighting Islamic State.

.......

 

If it falls and the opposition to Assad is wiped out, then the country will be ruled by two powers: President Assad and Islamic State.

The terror group will doubtless benefit from being the sole voice of opposition in the region representing Sunnis. Perversely they could become more powerful.

http://news.sky.com/story/1637674/russian-bombing-takes-its-toll-on-syrians

[Zigzag]

Crying about the massacre in Yemen by Saudis and not by Iranians/Bashar in syria is height of hypocrisy. 

All this loud proclamation of being a follower of Hussain (a.s.) is nothing but lip service.  

[Abu Nur]

23 hours ago, Zigzag said:

Crying about the massacre in Yemen by Saudis and not by Iranians/Bashar in syria is height of hypocrisy. 

All this loud proclamation of being a follower of Hussain (a.s.) is nothing but lip service.  

No need to bring followers of Hussain (as) in these lunatic political games. Nor do we need any these pathetic sectarians statement about Iran vs Saudis.  Iran, Saudis, Russia, Usa, Hisbullah or Israel, whoever do injustice, that is haram. Massacre of Syrian people have nothing to do with because of Iran and their allies fault. Everyone who takes a gun and is participant with the war and kill wrongly is not acceptable and its haram.

 

[Zigzag]

11 hours ago, Dhulfikar said:

No need to bring followers of Hussain (as) in these lunatic political games. Nor do we need any these pathetic sectarians statement about Iran vs Saudis.  Iran, Saudis, Russia, Usa, Hisbullah or Israel, whoever do injustice, that is haram. Massacre of Syrian people have nothing to do with because of Iran and their allies fault. Everyone who takes a gun and is participant with the war and kill wrongly is not acceptable and its haram.

 

And why shouldn't followers of Hussain (a.s.) be brought into this? Just at look shiachat.com itself... Filled with signs of qiyamath and prophecies geared towards supporting Bashar/Iran. Are shias not justifying every massacre, every pogrom by rallying calls of shia islam? Is not defence of shia shrines and shia faith the number one call to defend filthy Bashar?

And how is Iran vs Saudi a frigging sectarian comment? It is a fact ! The two mad countries have ripped apart the muslim world for their own games. 

I care a rat's ass about saudi kings or iranian ayatollahs and I can plenty of sunnis with me. Hardly ever come across a shia with similar thoughts. You lot seem to be happy that it's pay back time. 

[Abu Nur]

3 hours ago, Zigzag said:

And why shouldn't followers of Hussain (a.s.) be brought into this? Just at look shiachat.com itself... Filled with signs of qiyamath and prophecies geared towards supporting Bashar/Iran. Are shias not justifying every massacre, every pogrom by rallying calls of shia islam? Is not defence of shia shrines and shia faith the number one call to defend filthy Bashar?

 

Now days people so easily refer others as Shi'i of Imams when in reality they have no idea what it means by follower of Ahlulbait. There is difference between believing/loving in Imams and following them. Most of us don't even follow Imam Hussain (as).

Every sects have groups, and some of these groups are hypocritical, focusing on themselves and forgetting/enmity the others. Amoung the Sunnis (Shias too) there are the same group, whatever someone do to Sunnis they cry and when someone do injustice to Shi'a they either are happy or silent. 

 

3 hours ago, Zigzag said:

And how is Iran vs Saudi a frigging sectarian comment? It is a fact ! The two mad countries have ripped apart the muslim world for their own games. 

 

I believe its Saudi Arabia, rather than Iran that started all this madness. We have even authentic Sunni hadiths about the same country (Najd) that is referred the horn of shaitan, where the problems of this Ummah comes. But tell me how Iran have ripped apart the muslim world? It is only participant in Syria because Opposition started the war against their Allay. And it is participant with the Iraq, because ISIS (Supported by Saudis) started the mess and Iran is Iraq allay. And they are supporting Houtis in Yemen because again Saudis started the mess in first place. I don't think Iran will stay silent when its allays are threatened.

Edited February 11, 2016 by Dhulfikar

[Skanderbeg]

Salam,

The war is started by Israel and te West against Iran because Iran after the revolution became a threat for their interests and the existence of Israel. 

They are using sectarianism as a tool so that others do the work for them and so they have an excuse for their presence in the M-E thereby defending Israel, decimate the muslim population , create a Greater Zion and provoking Iran and now also Russia.

Edited February 11, 2016 by Skanderbeg

[Amina]

On 9.2.2016 at 1:31 PM, Zigzag said:

Crying about the massacre in Yemen by Saudis and not by Iranians/Bashar in syria is height of hypocrisy. 

All this loud proclamation of being a follower of Hussain (a.s.) is nothing but lip service.  

So whenever someone of us Shi'a, who are openly using this site - called Shi'aChat - where we gather to share our thoughts and problems with our brothers/sisters in faith (since we are proclaimed to be non-Muslims, kuffar and heretics by some other Muslim groups), where we seek connection with fellow believers, comfort and also intelligent answers in this mad world (as all the other groups of people on this earth do on the Internet, including other Islamic paths), all the others connecting, including those who curse, insult and abuse us Shi'a openly in their chats/propaganda sites and wish us all only painful death, nobody is calling them hypocrits, but when we Shi'a openly show our love and devotion to our religious sacred personalities (as I have done) - we are suddenly munafiqeen "doing lip-service"! 

Why can non-Shi'a openly insult and attack us on ShiaChat, and glorify historical villains like Mu'awiya, Ummayad "kaliphs" and other opressors and murderers of Prophet's family (as) and this Ummah, proclaiming openly their devotion and proudly calling themselves the followers of those "rulers" from the past, on this Shi'aChat, but when I (and so many others), a Shi'a, mention my (our) love for my (our) Imams (as), on our Chat - I (and the others) are suddenly labelled as hypocrits doing lip-service?! It must be truly maddening for all those Shi'a-haters that they have not succeded to "cure" us of our love for Prophet's family (as) inspite centuries of torturing and killing us! (or "pogroms", as you called Shi'a killings of innocent takfeeris...) 

In no place on this Chat has anyone of us claimed to be the perfect, or perfectly just, or definitely accepted follower of Imam Al Hussain (as), or any such similar thing. All that all of us constantly repeat is that we love our Imams (as) with devotion. None of us ever claimed that his/her love for Aba 'Abdillah (as) makes him/her a perfect Muslim, of perfect Shi'a, or absolutely truthful, or to posess absolute sincerity in his/hers faith and deeds, or any other form of perfection! (Only a delusional person could ever state - or think - such a megalomaniac idea in the first place, as there is no such thing commonly - you have to burn with love for a long time, until it purifies you from all negative thoughts and deeds, and makes you ready and deserving to be among the true followers... and I have never ever read on this Chat that someone claimed such a thing!) I certainly didn't. But we keep loving and keep hoping. 

So why am I (and others) being labelled as hypocrite only for saying that I love and want to follow my Imam (as)? What is it with all you Shi'a- haters people and takfeer? Not only do you "throw" us Shi'a "out" from this Ummah on your chats, forums, websites etc, (playing God, a'udhubillah) but you follow us to our own chats, and start your "proclamations of Kufr" upon us even here - I mean, why are so many non-Shi'a so eager to be takfeeris of us Shi'a? What is it that fascinates and pulls you to takfeer? How about showing some humility, some respect, and leave the judging to Allah te'ala?  

We here have all read posts like yours many, many times, and it is impossible to overlook that dark excitement that the takfeeris feel about finally having a  perfect cause for proclaiming ALL Shi'a to be hypocrits and kafirs - Bashar! Over and over again, it has been not only the favourite, but the only argument of takfeeris - the moment someone mentions the atrocities of even Da'esh lunatics (whom none of you officially support) against Shi'a and others - there it comes from you: You Shi'a  hypocrites, you condemn the Sunnis, but none of you condemns Bashar, therefore, you are hypocrites and kuffar!!!And your love for your Imams are a lie and a mere lip-service! Gotcha!!! And, magically, all those many posts about so many of us condemning Bashar's actions allways seem to be overlooked, or forgotten, or simply vanish... Do you come here to accuse, because you want us to start to apologize, explain and defend us in front of you? Do you believe that Shi'a crave approval and absolution from you? So that we can be "admitted" back in the Ummah? I mean, who gave any of takfeeris the right and the power to "analyze" us, and "discover" that our love for our Imams (as) is only nifaq, when you do not even know who they were, let alone believe in them?! 

And now we are annoying you  by merely stating, among ourselves, that we love and follow Imam Al Hussain (as)! No, no, no, you say, that is just lip service, not real faith! So all of you sudden experts on Shi'a Islam, you want us to -what? Go and prove our "Shi'aness" to non-Schi'a Muslims by joining the NATO and go to Syria to fight Bashar? Or join Turkish forces and shoot Russian planes down? And maybe just cause fitnah amongst us Shi'a, so that Da'esh has an easier job in wiping us from the face of the Earth, as they always promise, and were created, to do?

So let me tell you the truth, whoever you are (interestingly, those of you who write such posts on this Chat, and there are many of you, you never share, openly and honestly, where you are from, what faith or group you belong to and your names are always so predictably - cryptic?). I am Shi'a by choice, and not by birth, for over three decades, and that is the only thing that I still hold sacred. I am by no means even average, let alone good, Muslimah. I have very little to offer to my Ummah. I have no health or money to join the war against Da'esh or other takfeeris, which I would do, if I could, in Iraq; my husbands family still live close to the shores of Shatt-al 'Arab. But since I cannot do all these things, I do what I can - I write and I love. I wite about all things connected to my faith, here on SC, and I love my Creator (swt) and the holy Messenger (sAawa) and his pure family (as). I don't care one bit about what all the Takfeeris of this world (the known and the hidden ones) think of me, my sincerity, my Islam, Shi'a in general or anything else - the only tiny detail would be my wish that they show some respect when they visit this site and mention the Family (as) of Allah's Apostle (sAawa), not for our sake (if you want us dead, you are hardly likely to pay any attention to etiquette), but for the sake of those sacred personalities (as), whom you also supposedly love and respect... And I definitely have no intention of meeting any of you anywhere for a talk - some people feel such pleasure when they kill, that they do not really care about long discussions, and when they smell Shi'a blood - they turn into Vlad Dracul with a knife!

And I think all of us Shi'a in the whole world are genuinely interested in the matter of Allah te'ala and the holy family (as) and if they shall accept our love and devotion to them, and the matter of what takfeeris think of our devotion and if they think it is sincere or hypocritical, this matter is, I am glad to inform you (and the rest of the world), as important to us as a "goat's sneeze", as Imam 'Ali (as) said in Shaqshaqiyya... 

So keep visiting our chats whenever you can, "kick us out" of Islam if it makes you feel better, call us hypocrites, supporters of this and that, villify one side and praise the other (preferably the ones with no mustache and short dishdashas!), honour all of us here with your profound analyses of the situation on all fronts of all wars this Ummah is suffering and bleeding from, whoever you are! We are happy to oblige and give you yet one more reason to abuse us - we shall definitely continue to mention our Imams (as) as often as possible - filthy hypocrites that we are... 

I admit, I tend to grow over-emotional and sound pathetic when holy names are mentioned, but at least I do not have a God-complex and excommunicate the believers from their faith.

Until later, greetings. 

Amina