Terrorism: Sunni vs. Shia

[ShiaMan14]

One way or another, we are all being impacted by Islam terrorism almost worldwide.

We find most of these barbaric acts are committed by Sunnis or to be more specific sects such as Salafis, Wahabis, Deobandis, etc.

The only Shia 'terrorist' organization that comes to mind is Hezbollah. They are freedom fighters more than anything. They fought against the Israeli occupation of their country and developed into more of a social & political organization.

Questions:

1)  

a)What causes people in some Islamic sects to become radicalized?
b)What void is being filled that they can't find elsewhere?
c)Merely saying they follow the teachings of Ibn Taymiyah or Abdul-Wahab is not good enough. What prompts someone to blow themselves up and others?

2) Why does this phenomena not exist in the Shia world?

 

[Soldiers and Saffron]

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An iranian friend of my father said to me one day "you know the iranian regime just after the islamic revolution that was like daech; all what daech do now this regime did that to us".

You mean the regime raped women, stole their daughters to sell them as sex slaves, sent terrorist to different countries to kill people, got funded by foreign countries, put bombs in toy dolls and try giving it to children, etc, etc?

Come on man, what the hell is this reasoning. Tell you fathers Iranian friend to go to a library. In the end it is just people who blames their own misfortune on someone ells, I cannot stand it. "Oh if the islamic revolution would not have happened I would have been so successful now, everything would be green fields and peaches. Iran would have been the greatest country in the world."

[ShiaMan14]

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An iranian friend of my father said to me one day "you know the iranian regime just after the islamic revolution that was like daech; all what daech do now this regime did that to us".

In terms of regimes, there have been plenty of brutal regimes that have committed horrific crimes against their own people.

I am talking in the sense of ISIS, Al-Qaida, Taliban that hold an ideology like the borg. What creates that mentality?

[kamyar]

3 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

Questions:

1)  

a)What causes people in some Islamic sects to become radicalized?
b)What void is being filled that they can't find elsewhere?
c)Merely saying they follow the teachings of Ibn Taymiyah or Abdul-Wahab is not good enough. What prompts someone to blow themselves up and others?

2) Why does this phenomena not exist in the Shia world?

The answer for all of these questions is related to this fact that they have abandoned Ahlulbayt. Hadn't prophet warned us about this danger that if you abandon Quran and Ahlulbayt, you would go astray?

Takfiri terrorists interpret the Quran's verses in a way that it justifies their crimes. But Quran without Ahlulbayt, as its interpreters, can't be the book of guidance. We need them.

That's the main factor, and all others fall within it.

It's true that other enemies of Islam have taken advantage of Takfiris' interpretation of religion and manipulated them in the recent centuries, especially in the recent decades, but actually the reason for these happenings is that these sects have abandoned Ahlulbayt – something that isn't the case in Shia.

This problem started after departure of Prophet, and recently they have gained power with the help of others, which plays a very important role here, to do what they are busy with.

[ServantZed]

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Excepted sex slavery thé iranian régime Stoned,  hanged,  flagellating People on the street like daech .  Killed People the bahais like daech do with yezidis Just because they were hérésies. Try to destroy iranian sassanid monument like daech try to do with archeological monument in irak and syria . Do terrorist attack in france like daech did . Beat and sometimes kill women Who refuse hijab like daech do with those Who refuse niqab.  Take Child soldiers for suicide bombings like daech now etc etc

please share sources for your claims, else they will be considered lies.

... and when quoting sources, make sure not to quote only those who are against Iran...

also, certain things you are mentioning may have happened in really isolated cases, because of the fact that Iran is not perfect, and no one has ever claimed that it is; it is just the most just government available in these times...

I can give you so many instances that other countries have acted unjustly to their people and are still doing so, and that in much greater quantity than Iran, its just the amount of Iranophobia being promoted in the media just now because they are openly going agains the injustice from the west.

[ServantZed]

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My family always lived in iran . I know this country .

sorry living in a country doesn't make you an expert.

there are people who live in America who think that their country is just!!!!

[ServantZed]

12 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

One way or another, we are all being impacted by Islam terrorism almost worldwide.

We find most of these barbaric acts are committed by Sunnis or to be more specific sects such as Salafis, Wahabis, Deobandis, etc.

The only Shia 'terrorist' organization that comes to mind is Hezbollah. They are freedom fighters more than anything. They fought against the Israeli occupation of their country and developed into more of a social & political organization.

Questions:

1)  

a)What causes people in some Islamic sects to become radicalized?
b)What void is being filled that they can't find elsewhere?
c)Merely saying they follow the teachings of Ibn Taymiyah or Abdul-Wahab is not good enough. What prompts someone to blow themselves up and others?

2) Why does this phenomena not exist in the Shia world?

 

brother, i think your topic and questions are directed in the wrong way... 

1) Terrorism is a made up terminology to make it look like Muslims are the source of all evil in the world... if we look at the source of this terminology, we find that it found its place in the world after the 9/11 event... thus to say that we are being impacted by "Islam Terrorism" is already falling into their trap...

2) the root cause of terrorism is because some people want to create insability and give a bad name to Muslims, the fact that certain sects are gullible enough to follow such ideals is a problem in the way they are taught to believe... thats why all of us, including the Shias should always make sure to think for ourselves and not follow blindly...

[Saintly_Jinn23]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2013/04/23/sunni-and-shia-terror-a-difference-that-matters/

[ShiaMan14]

7 hours ago, ServantZed said:

brother, i think your topic and questions are directed in the wrong way... 

1) Terrorism is a made up terminology to make it look like Muslims are the source of all evil in the world... if we look at the source of this terminology, we find that it found its place in the world after the 9/11 event... thus to say that we are being impacted by "Islam Terrorism" is already falling into their trap...

2) the root cause of terrorism is because some people want to create insability and give a bad name to Muslims, the fact that certain sects are gullible enough to follow such ideals is a problem in the way they are taught to believe... thats why all of us, including the Shias should always make sure to think for ourselves and not follow blindly...

I agree with you up to a certain extent. Whether it is fake or real, the fact remains that people are killing people in the name of Islam. So while I am not falling into the trap, it looks like Muslim terrorism simply based on claims by the perpetrators. For example, Rizwan Farook was a regualr at mosques but then he committed such acts.

Even if we accept that this is a global conspiracy against Muslims, at the end of the day it is Muslims committing these heinous crimes. If its political, that means we are selling out. If its religious, that means we are being radicalized.

Why are Muslims the cheapest commodity in the world? Why are Muslims the easiest to infuriate?

[ShiaMan14]

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My family always lived in iran . I know this country .

Look at the history of most countries and you will find the rulers committing atrocities against their own people including US, Britain and France.

[ServantZed]

19 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

I agree with you up to a certain extent. Whether it is fake or real, the fact remains that people are killing people in the name of Islam. So while I am not falling into the trap, it looks like Muslim terrorism simply based on claims by the perpetrators. For example, Rizwan Farook was a regualr at mosques but then he committed such acts.

Even if we accept that this is a global conspiracy against Muslims, at the end of the day it is Muslims committing these heinous crimes. If its political, that means we are selling out. If its religious, that means we are being radicalized.

Why are Muslims the cheapest commodity in the world? Why are Muslims the easiest to infuriate?

Interesting, although I feel that this is all based on the fact that we are accepting the claim that these Terrorists are Muslim... If we look at how they were actually formed, it doesn't seem far fetched that these are just some random trained people who wear black masks and are supposed to claim that they are Muslims...

[ShiaMan14]

2 hours ago, ServantZed said:

Interesting, although I feel that this is all based on the fact that we are accepting the claim that these Terrorists are Muslim... If we look at how they were actually formed, it doesn't seem far fetched that these are just some random trained people who wear black masks and are supposed to claim that they are Muslims...

So entire Taliban, Al-Qaida, etc are fake Muslims??? Or just their leadership is compromised of non-Muslims?

[Ali_Hussain]

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Excepted sex slavery thé iranian régime Stoned,  hanged,  flagellating People on the street like daech .  Killed People the bahais like daech do with yezidis Just because they were hérésies. Try to destroy iranian sassanid monument like daech try to do with archeological monument in irak and syria . Do terrorist attack in france like daech did . Beat and sometimes kill women Who refuse hijab like daech do with those Who refuse niqab.  Take Child soldiers for suicide bombings like daech now etc etc

Did the regime really try to destroy Sassanid monuments? That doesn't make much sense because most of the Iranian cleric are intensely proud their Persian history, even people like sayed Khomayni refused to speak Arabic (despite the fact that he wrote many of his works in Arabic)

I'd like to see some proof for this, I did have a quick look on google, couldn't find anything.

[Le Chat]

Why are there so many disagreements between Sunnis and Shia's?  Are people who join ISIS from both sects or predominantly from one?

Another question is that do they both have their own mosque in America?  Or do both Sunnis and Shias go to the same mosque?

[notme]

On 12/5/2015 at 6:33 PM, Le Chat said:

Why are there so many disagreements between Sunnis and Shia's?  Are people who join ISIS from both sects or predominantly from one?

Another question is that do they both have their own mosque in America?  Or do both Sunnis and Shias go to the same mosque?

Wow, where to begin?

The differences arise from history and are very deeply rooted, too deeply rooted to answer here.

ISIS hate Shia. They also hate most Sunnis, but they do follow a sort of Sunni sect.

There are Sunni centers and Shia ones, but in many towns and smaller cities in the US, Sunni and Shia pray together.  

Where are you from, Cat?

[LeftCoastMom]

Hi, Cat!

Hey, maybe Cat ( good name for the curious) is young and from the US.

At least Cat knows the terms " Shi'a" and " Sunni" and that there are differences.

Lots of folks don't even get that far. 

[ShiaMan14]

1 hour ago, Le Chat said:

Are people who join ISIS from both sects or predominantly from one?

All ISIS are 100% wahabi/salafi (sunni sect) or to put it another way 0% of ISIS is shia.

[Le Chat]

If ISIS is all Sunni, why do you think Iran isn't stepping in to curb them?  Or do you think they may do so in the future?

[Le Chat]

On 12/5/2015 at 6:53 PM, LeftCoastMom said:

Hi, Cat!

Hey, maybe Cat ( good name for the curious) is young and from the US.

At least Cat knows the terms " Shi'a" and " Sunni" and that there are differences.

Lots of folks don't even get that far. 

I'm from the far north East coast of the USA.  I didn't come here to slander Muslims.  I came here to hear it, "right from the horses mouth" if you will.  There's a lot of misinformation about Islam on the web and I'm more apt to believe what questions I have answered here that most other places.  That is if people are kind enough to express themselves in a civil manner.

I'm in my 60's and know a little about Islam, but not enough to make any proper judgments about it.  

[notme]

On 12/5/2015 at 8:33 PM, Le Chat said:

If ISIS is all Sunni, why do you think Iran isn't stepping in to curb them?  Or do you think they may do so in the future?

I don't know. 

On 12/5/2015 at 8:42 PM, Le Chat said:

I'm from the far north East coast of the USA.  I didn't come here to slander Muslims.  I came here to hear it, "right from the horses mouth" if you will.  There's a lot of misinformation about Islam on the web and I'm more apt to believe what questions I have answered here that most other places.  That is if people are kind enough to express themselves in a civil manner.

Welcome! Most members of this site are very young. Most members are polite, but there are some who aren't, and there are people from all around the world so may come across wrong only because English isn't their first language.

You can learn a lot about Shia Islam from www.al-islam.org . Please ask your questions here too. 

[LeftCoastMom]

On 12/5/2015 at 8:42 PM, Le Chat said:

I'm from the far north East coast of the USA.  I didn't come here to slander Muslims.  I came here to hear it, "right from the horses mouth" if you will.  There's a lot of misinformation about Islam on the web and I'm more apt to believe what questions I have answered here that most other places.  That is if people are kind enough to express themselves in a civil manner.

I'm in my 60's and know a little about Islam, but not enough to make any proper judgments about it.  

Whoops, sorry! Thanks for having the sense and courage to get info from the people themselves instead of risking misinformation from other sources.

Most folks here are nice and will answer your questions happily. The Shia have suffered mightily at the hands of ISIS and it has been in the news quite a bit. 

That's probably why there was some surprise at the question. But divisions within the Muslim community might not be clear to many outside people like us, so it's good you ask. Thanks.

[ShiaMan14]

On 12/5/2015 at 8:33 PM, Le Chat said:

If ISIS is all Sunni, why do you think Iran isn't stepping in to curb them?  Or do you think they may do so in the future?

Brother - Iran is actively engaged in fighting the scourge of ISIS in Syrup a and Iraq. You can google "General Sulemani" to see an example of how Iran is helping.

these are confusing times. Although our government seems to be anti-Iran and Anti-Hezbollah, they (Iran & Hezbollah) are the primary reasons Syria and Iraq have not fallen completely into the Hans of ISIS.

on the other hand, our government supports Saudi but ISIS ideology is shared by Saudi.

[Chaotic Muslem]

On 12/5/2015 at 8:33 PM, Le Chat said:

If ISIS is all Sunni, why do you think Iran isn't stepping in to curb them?  Or do you think they may do so in the future?

Greetings.

I am going to try to explain the current ISIS situation from broadly Muslim of view instead from specific Shia point of view to be fair to the innocent Muslim from other sects.

Generally speaking, what IsIS is doing is forbidden in Islam. We have laws concerning war. We are forbidden to kill those who testify that there is no God but God. Even if the one utter it did so out of fear or otherwise.

We are forbidden to harm citizens from other religions as long as they don't kill us or push us outside our houses. Pay attention that all Muslims are forbidden to do the same to other Muslims. These are simple rights between Muslims.

Prophet said the right of a Muslim upon the other Muslim is to secure his life, his money and his women.

These are hurumat (sacred things).

We have also a law against terrorism. It is called Hiraba .it is for those seeking destruction on earth by killing and stealing.

There is also a general law regarding war in between Muslims. Muslims should seek reconciliation firstbetween the 2 groups. If one group continued the war after the reconciliation then it should be fought by all Muslims.

We have law against Fitnah or tribulation. Times when someone is not sure and can't be sure who is on right side and who is on wrong side. The law says Muslim shouldn't incite a fitnah situation and shouldn't put others in confusion, because fitnah is worse than killing.

All these are in Qur'an so agreed upon by all Muslims.

then why do Isis do these horrible things?

we have 2 explanations which are both correct:

1- they are not true Muslims. Many of them who join Isis are ex criminals, drug addicts etc. They are being trained and directed by non Muslims because Syrian war is proxy war between west and Russia (globally) and between Saudi and iran ( locally).

2- they get their teachings from one sect that is famous for calling most of Muslims as disbelivers. For decades this school was spreading despite Muslims denouncing it's teachings. The spread of the school was due to the funds it received. It was valuable tool to create jihadist in Afghanistan, Bosnia , Iraq, Africa, and Syria.

Why shia are not involved? Shia are considered worse than pigs in the eyes of that school. If you want to make any friend an enemy to that school, just say he is Shia.

Fundementaly, shia received their teachings from selected historical figures beside the prophet. We also have criteria for those who can issue fatwa ( religious decree).

Sunnis generally accept traditions from wider base of historical figures. They don't have as strict rules as shia on those who can issue fatwa.

even then, those joinng this crazy band are not all sun is. It I really hard to point a finger against certain individual but we can distinguish at least on political bases between the sane and the insane.

[ServantZed]

14 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

So entire Taliban, Al-Qaida, etc are fake Muslims??? Or just their leadership is compromised of non-Muslims?

Well, we know for a fact that Terrorism is completely against the ideologies that Islam preaches... because Terrorism in a nutshell can be summarized as Dhulm, which is prohibited in Islam... Numerous Ahadith about the Haqq of a Madhloum are present in all Muslim literature.

On the other hand, there have definitely been cases of Muslims who join these terrorist ranks... And we can't just claim somebody is a Non-Muslim if he commits a sin...

But my point is that it would not be far fetched to claim that the leaders and in-fact the majority of these terrorists have nothing to do with the true Islam except that they want to spoil it's name by claiming that they are Muslims...

[Le Chat]

Shiaman14 and Chaotic Muslem,

Thank you for your reply.  It's a very complicated set of circumstances in that region right now.  I just hope things don't get worse between Turkey and Russia. There's no way that would help.  I have to wonder and would appreciate what you think...

Do you think it's a good or bad thing that Russia is helping Assad? I thought at first it was a good thing but now I'm having second thoughts.  Taking Assad out could be as bad as taking Saddam out. Maybe worse if a major void is left. I actually blame most of the turmoil in the region on Bush and the USA.  And I don't think it's a good idea for the U.S. to get militarily involved again. We should have never been involved in Iraq's affairs in the first place since Saddam had nothing to do with 911.  Even getting involved in Afghanistan was questionable to me.

I don't see how any of this can turn out for the good but we never know.

[ShiaMan14]

On 12/6/2015 at 6:24 PM, Le Chat said:

Shiaman14 and Chaotic Muslem,

Thank you for your reply.  It's a very complicated set of circumstances in that region right now.  I just hope things don't get worse between Turkey and Russia. There's no way that would help.  I have to wonder and would appreciate what you think...

Do you think it's a good or bad thing that Russia is helping Assad? I thought at first it was a good thing but now I'm having second thoughts.  Taking Assad out could be as bad as taking Saddam out. Maybe worse if a major void is left. I actually blame most of the turmoil in the region on Bush and the USA.  And I don't think it's a good idea for the U.S. to get militarily involved again. We should have never been involved in Iraq's affairs in the first place since Saddam had nothing to do with 911.  Even getting involved in Afghanistan was questionable to me.

I don't see how any of this can turn out for the good but we never know.

Brother Le Chat:

So Assad is a dictator much like the rulers of most ME countries including all our allies. So if he deserves to be removed then so do those other rulers.

in terms of Russia helping Assad, Russia is siding with him because of their long history of supporting each other. My personal opinion is that Assad is the lesser of 2 evils when choosing between him and ISIS. He is a secular dictator in terms of letting people of all faiths practice their beliefs to liking. ISIS on the other hand will chop off anyone's head and enslave their womenfolk in an instant if you disagree with their belief system.

we have a long history of meddling in other countries affairs without understanding the cultural nuances of those countries. 

better the evil you know than the evil you dont

[Le Chat]

19 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

Brother Le Chat:

So Assad is a dictator much like the rulers of most ME countries including all our allies. So if he deserves to be removed then so do those other rulers.

in terms of Russia helping Assad, Russia is siding with him because of their long history of supporting each other. My personal opinion is that Assad is the lesser of 2 evils when choosing between him and ISIS. He is a secular dictator in terms of letting people of all faiths practice their beliefs to liking. ISIS on the other hand will chop off anyone's head and enslave their womenfolk in an instant if you disagree with their belief system.

we have a long history of meddling in other countries affairs without understanding the cultural nuances of those countries. 

better the evil you know than the evil you dont

Very good.  I agree!  Even Saddam, as bad as he was, look at what happened by taking him out!  The US/Bush went in Iraq for one reason.

Profiteering!  And you are right.  American really doesn't know the culture of Islam and the Arabs.  I'm actually not very happy with what Bush did and the results prove it!  

Edited December 8, 2015 by Le Chat

[ChristianVisitor]

Let's not be cowards here. Call them for what they are. These radical Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi/Daesh sects who murder innocent civilians who disagree with their twisted doctrines are not followers of God/Allah they are followers of Satan. They are not Muslims. What I don't understand is why many Shia and normal Sunnis don't call them what they are: devil worshipers.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

46 minutes ago, ChristianVisitor said:

Let's not be cowards here. Call them for what they are. These radical Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi/Daesh sects who murder innocent civilians who disagree with their twisted doctrines are not followers of God/Allah they are followers of Satan. They are not Muslims. What I don't understand is why many Shia and normal Sunnis don't call them what they are: devil worshipers.

I call them devil worshipers and kufar, who is a coward and what do you mean by "many Shia", if I may kindly ask?

[ChristianVisitor]

11 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

I call them devil worshipers and kufar, who is a coward and what do you mean by "many Shia", if I may kindly ask?

I'm not calling anyone a coward. It was just a form of admonition. 

Well, I'm saying any Muslim (regardless of sect) who doesn't say anything about the demonic nature of Daesh. 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

Okay, now I understand partly what you are saying but the Shia are probably the loudest voices against Daesh, so what did you mean by "many Shia" and which Shias are you talking about?  I have never heard of a Shia being silent on ISIS nor tolerate the monstrosities they commit. Sorry for annoying you with my questions but you clarify your words a bit further, I am still confused. 

[ZethaPonderer]

My reason to revive this topic is to discuss and vent so much of the cancerous hypocrisy that is happening in the West when it comes to 'Terrorism'. That and I need to let my frustration out right now. Plus, my vent might have relevance to the topic at hand.

Non-Muslims who play this card game with Muslims, "Actually if you look at the so called Muslims committing acts of Terrorism under the name of Islam e.g. ISIS and Al-Qaeda they're living up to what the Quran is all about which is violence against Kafirs till the end of times."

So what I'm essentially understanding from the Non-Muslims line of logic is that Terrorist Muslims who practice approximately 109 violent verses against Non-Muslims (without context) out of the 6236 verses of the Quran are essentially the True Followers of Islam. That's nearly 2% (Approximately 1.75%) they're following the teachings of The Quran so how does that qualify them as Muslims in anyway shape and form? If you see this argument coming out of a Non-Muslim, tell him you're just as much of a Terrorist like ISIS and Al-Qaeda to believe that they are the True Followers of Islam if they follow only 2% of the verses of the Quran and that is with zero context in mind along with weak (daeef) and unreliable Hadiths you'll be willing to quote from Sahih Bukhari and Muslim. If anything this counterargument the Non-Muslims propose actually works against them as it only shows their true colors, regardless of intention, being supporters/apologists towards ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

Non-Muslims who play the worst card game with Muslims, "Don't bother listening to any Muslim. They're all practicing the art of Taqqiyya which is deliberately lying to yourself towards Kafirs for the sake of defending Islam. Don't fool me Muslim, I know the Quran more than you."

If you see this argument coming out of a Non-Muslim, tell him that you not only disregard reality when talking about Muslims practicing Taqqiyya against Non-Muslims, but you also forget that even Non-Muslims do this too so stop making yourself an exception from us. Muslims should only practice the art of Taqqiyya when their lives are in danger of getting killed by Non-Muslims e.g. If I know I'm moving to a Hostile Non-Muslim nation and I know I'll be brutally killed for being a Muslim then I should change my name to a Hindu name such as Aarush Acharya or a White Man's name depending on my skin color e.g. Richard Hewlett while falsely renouncing my true faith openly to all Non-Muslims around me.

If anything Non-Muslims do the same thing too when looking at other Non-Muslim countries such as China and Russia. E.g. An American White Non-Muslim who wants to live in a supposedly hostile Russia for whatever reason can easily practice the Art of Taqqiyya against Hostile Non-Muslim Russians by changing his name from Andrew Smith to Vasily Kuznetsov while falsely renouncing his true faith and political identity against Hostile Non-Muslim Russians to save himself. What's to stop anyone from changing their name and falsely renouncing their true faith against the entire ignorant masses into fooling them just so you can get something out of it? At least with Muslims, the only thing they're getting out of it when doing Taqqiyya is to save themselves from Hostile Non-Muslims and nothing more than that since that is the criteria, while Non-Muslims on the other hand are more likely to turn it into a form of Hypocrisy.

There's a BIG difference between Hypocrisy and Taqqiyya.

Hypocrisy: Deliberately not being True to Yourself against others for selfish motives e.g. Money, Wealth, Power, Popularity.

Taqqiyya: Deliberately not being True to Yourself to save yourself from Hostile People who want to kill you. (Far from being a selfish motive unless you count Basic Survival Instinct to be a Selfish Motive).

I'm done. Vent over. Just want to let it out. Don't care if I get criticized for this. 

[Shah Khan]

On 12/4/2015 at 4:41 AM, shiaman14 said:

We find most of these barbaric acts are committed by Sunnis or to be more specific sects such as .......Deobandis, etc.

Why are you always accusing us (Deobandis) for terrorism? Any Specific reason? Aren't there any Shia Terrorist groups??

[Shah Khan]

Why you guys have so much hatred for Muhammad bin abdul Wahaab ??? Just because he destroyed pagan practices??

Edited March 10, 2018 by Shah Khan

[Intellectual Resistance]

On 3/9/2018 at 8:21 PM, Shah Khan said:

Why you guys have so much hatred for Muhammad bin abdul Wahaab ??? Just because he destroyed pagan practices??

I dislike him because of the Aqeedah innovations. You had previously told me you are a Maturidi, if i am not wrong? Are you aware Maturidi Aqeedah, and the Aqeedah of Muhammed b. Abdul Wahhab are totally different? You share more with us on the most important issue of all - Tawheed.  He came to try to do away with innovations in Fiqh, and while he had legitimate concerns about some innovations i do not agree with myself, his idea of innovation was far too unbalanced. He also revived and gave more power and strength to innovations many respectable Maturidi Sunni scholars have refuted.

In terms of terrorists, the reality is, no terrorist group truly represents Sunni Islam. Sunni Muslims by and large are peaceful and condemn terrorism and terrorists. If some people claim to be terrorists and attach themselves to Sunni Islam, that has more to do with geopolitics and how that evolved, as well as people who hijack Sunni Islam, and hijack the Salafi-movement, which has its flaws but certainly doesn't condone terrorists. Saudi-Arabia funds them, but they don't represent Sunni Islam, and even my Salafi cousin disavows them. 

To accuse the largest group of Muslims as integrally supporting terrorism is a bigger insult to Allah and his Prophet, than it is to Sunnis. The reality is, the Quran and Sunnah have been clear enough on these matters, such that the vast majority of Sunnis do not support terrorism. Non-Muslims would love to argue otherwise, and then conclude a large body of people supporting terrorism only means the books they use promote it.