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Sunni Doubts In Shia Salah (Genuine)

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Assalamu alaikum,fellow brothers of Shia school of thought. I have a few doubts regarding your way of Salah. I don't want to post all the questions and bombard you. I will post a question and Insha'Allah you guys explain with references from Sunni sources and Shia sources. jazakAllah khair.

1) Is it permissible to say salawat (Allahumma salli aala muhhamad wa aali muhhamad) in sujood? Is it said in first sujood or all sujood? Give me the reasons and validity of saying it through sources from both schools of thought.

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Salam

http://www.sistani.org/english/book/48/2225/ :

1100. Certain things are Mustahab in Sajdah:
It is Mustahab to say Takbir before going to Sajdah. A person who prays standing, will do so after having stood up from Ruku, and a person who prays sitting will do so after having sat properly. While going into Sajdah, a man should first place his hands on the ground, and woman should first place her knees on the ground. The person offering prayers should place his nose on a mohr, or on any other thing on which Sajdah is allowed. While performing Sajdah, fingers should be kept close to each other, parallel to the ears, with their tips towards Qibla. While in Sajdah one should pray to Allah, and express his wishes, and should recite this supplication: Ya Khayral Mas'ulin wa Ya Khayral Mu'tin, Urzuqni warzuq 'Ayali Min Fazlika Fa Innaka Zulfazlil 'Azim - O You Who are the best from whom people seek their needs, and O You, Who are the best bestower of gifts! Give me and the members of my family sustenance with Your grace. Undoubtedly You possess the greatest grace). After performing Sajdah, one should sit on his left thigh, placing the instep of the right foot on the sole of the left foot. After every Sajdah, when a person has sat down and his body is composed, one should say takbir. When his body is steady after the first Sajdah, he should say:"Astaghfirullaha Rabbi wa Atubu Ilayhi". He should say Allahu Akbar for going into second Sajdah, when his body is steady. It is Mustahab to prolong the Sajdah, and when sitting after the Sajdah, to place one's hands on the thighs. He should recite Salawat while in prostrations. At the time of rising, he should raise his hands from the ground, after raising his knees. Men should not make their elbows and stomach touch the ground; they should keep their arms separated from their sides. And women should place their elbows and stomachs on the ground, and should join their limbs with one another.
Other Mustahab acts of Sajdah have been mentioned in detailed books

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Sunni ssources too pleasse guys

Assalaamualeykum,

Here are two reliable hadeeth on permissibility of saying Salawat on Prophet while on Sujood from Shia Source.

1 - محمد بن الحسن بإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد عن النضر بن سويد عن عبد الله بن سنان قال: سألت أبا عبد الله (عليه السلام) عن الرجل يذكر النبي صلى الله عليه وآله وهو في الصلاة المكتوبة إما راكعا وإما ساجدا فيصلي عليه وهو على تلك الحال؟ فقال نعم إن الصلاة على نبي الله صلى الله عليه وآله كهيئة التكبير والتسبيح وهي عشر حسنات يبتدرها ثمانية عشر ملكا أيهم يبلغها إياه.

ورواه الكليني عن جماعة عن أحمد بن محمد عن الحسين بن سعيد عن النضر بن سويد عن عبد الله بن سنان عن عبد الله بن سليمان عن أبي عبد الله (عليه السلام) مثله (1).

Muhammad ibn al-Hasan with his chain of narrator from al-Husayn ibn Sa‘id from al-Nadr ibn Suwayd from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sinan who has said the following:

“I asked abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about a man who whenever mentioning the Holy Prophet during his Ruku‘ or sajdah in obligatory Salat (prayer), would say, ‘O Allah grant Muhammad and his family a compensation worthy of their serving Your cause.’ The Imam said, ‘Yes, saying such words, after the mention the name of the Holy Prophet is like saying, “Allah is great,” “Allah is free of all defects.” There is a reward for ten good deeds for it and eighteen angels rush forward to take it up to deliver to him.”

Source:

  • Wasā'il al-Shīʿa by Sheikh al-Hurr al-Aamali, Vol 6, Pg 326, H 1.
  • al-Kafi by Sheikh Kulayni, Vol 3, Pg 322, H 5.

Grading:

  • Sheikh Jawāhiri: "Saheeh" (Jawāhir al-kalām 11/120)
  • Sheikh al-Sabzawārī: "Saheeh" (Dhakhirat al-maad 1/288)
  • Sheikh Sayyed Muḥsin al-Ḥakīm: "Saheeh" (Mustamsik al-ʻurwah 6/340)

135 - الحسين بن سعيد عن النضر عن يحيى الحلبي عن إسحاق بن عمار عن أبي بصير قال قلت لأبي عبد الله عليه السلام: أصلي على النبي صلى الله عليه وآله وأنا ساجد؟ فقال: نعم هو مثل سبحان الله والله أكبر.

Source:

  • Tahdhīb al-Ahkaam by Sheikh Toosi, Vol 2, Pg 314, H 135
Grading:
  • Allamah Majlisi:"Muwaththaq (Reliable)" (Malādh al-akhyār 4/467)

Wa aleykumsalaam

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Assalamu alaikum,fellow brothers of Shia school of thought. I have a few doubts regarding your way of Salah. I don't want to post all the questions and bombard you. I will post a question and Insha'Allah you guys explain with references from Sunni sources and Shia sources. jazakAllah khair.

1) Is it permissible to say salawat (Allahumma salli aala muhhamad wa aali muhhamad) in sujood? Is it said in first sujood or all sujood? Give me the reasons and validity of saying it through sources from both schools of thought.

Salam,

 

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Sunni ssources too pleasse guys

 

Here is one sunni hadeeth which allows to make Dua during Sujood.

 

وَحَدَّثَنَا هَارُونُ بْنُ مَعْرُوفٍ، وَعَمْرُو بْنُ سَوَّادٍ، قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ وَهْبٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ الْحَارِثِ، عَنْ عُمَارَةَ بْنِ غَزِيَّةَ، عَنْ سُمَىٍّ، مَوْلَى أَبِي بَكْرٍ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ أَبَا صَالِحٍ، ذَكْوَانَ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ أَقْرَبُ مَا يَكُونُ الْعَبْدُ مِنْ رَبِّهِ وَهُوَ سَاجِدٌ فَأَكْثِرُوا الدُّعَاءَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
 
 
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: The nearest a servant comes to his Lord is when he is prostrating himself, so make Dua (in this state).
 
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  • Sahih Muslim, Ch 482, Book 5, Hadith 245.
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On ‎21‎-‎11‎-‎2015‎ ‎10‎:‎57‎:‎17, Aquib Rizvi said:

 

Here is one sunni hadeeth which allows to make Dua during Sujood.

 

وَحَدَّثَنَا هَارُونُ بْنُ مَعْرُوفٍ، وَعَمْرُو بْنُ سَوَّادٍ، قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ وَهْبٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ الْحَارِثِ، عَنْ عُمَارَةَ بْنِ غَزِيَّةَ، عَنْ سُمَىٍّ، مَوْلَى أَبِي بَكْرٍ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ أَبَا صَالِحٍ، ذَكْوَانَ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ أَقْرَبُ مَا يَكُونُ الْعَبْدُ مِنْ رَبِّهِ وَهُوَ سَاجِدٌ فَأَكْثِرُوا الدُّعَاءَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
 
 
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: The nearest a servant comes to his Lord is when he is prostrating himself, so make Dua (in this state).
 
Source:
  • Sahih Muslim, Ch 482, Book 5, Hadith 245.

the hadith doesn't explicity state,wheter during fardh salah or sunnah and if whether in sujood in salah or just a sujood outside salah. Not nitpicking,but a better a hadith please.

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On 11/19/2015, 10:48:19, sunnilove2hussain said:

Sunni ssources too pleasse guys

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask for Sunni sources from Sunni Muslims?

Shi'is do not follow Sunni sources, just as Sunnis do not follow Shi'i sources. So, it looks weird asking Shi'is to produce Sunni proofs for Shi'i doctrines or rituals. It is like going on a Sunni forum and demanding that they produce Shi'i reports for their act of folding arms during salat.

 

Just saying, though.

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So what is wrong with reciting salawat in sujood? Are there any authentic narrations forbidding it?

Reciting Muhammad's name in sujood doesn't make him Allah or is it sharing Allah's characteristics so what is the problem?

Wasn't Iblis told to do sajdah to Prophet Adam? Did God tell Iblis to do shirk and he refused?

Neither Islam nor Allah is so fickle that saying Muhammad's name in sajdah will violate salat.

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