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Assalamalekum,

 

While I was working on my new journal I wanted to add a topic regarding the additions in Adhaan.

 

As per my knowledge, the addition of "Ashahadu Ali-un Waliullah" was added in Adhaan by Umar bin Abdul aziz (please rectify me if wrong) which was a political act against the propaganda of cursing Imam Ali (AS) from the mosques.

 

My point is, if "Assalatu Khairal Minan Nawm" could be be added later on (after the death of Prophet (SAW) in Adhaan by Umar bin khattab (please rectify me if wrong), so it should be permissible also to call Ali's (AS) name after adhaan.

 

Your contributions would be highly apprecaited on this regard.

 

Ameen

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Salam, 

However,

If Umar bin Abdul Aziz added it to Adhan then it would have undermined the validity of his own authority so I think this 'Umayyad invented iyt' story is just a made-up argument by probably some nasibis to ridicule this addition.

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Dear brother -

 

Proclaiming the Wilaya of Ameer ul Momineen Ali was NOT added by Umer bin Abdulaziz. Only thing Umer bin Az did was discontinued the cursing on Imam Ali from the Juma' khutba that his forefathers namely Muawiah instituted and later was continued by the rest of the despots from the line of Ummayad and Marwan.

 

As far as procaliming the wilaya of Ali in Adhan, among Shia, this is only a mustahib (not obligatiry but preferable to proclaim) part of Adhan. From fiqh point of view, this is NOT the part of Adhan among Shia.

 

For sunnah people, saying the As Sala o Khair ul minal Nawm is Wajib (obligatory) part of their Adhan which was instituted by Umer and not by the Prophet.

 

Anything anyone add in the religion as wajib (obligatory) which was not made wajib by the Prophet; or declare haram (forbidden) not delared haram by Prophet is called Biddah or even worst, transgression against the law of Allah swt. Umer did both.

 

I would encourage to re-do your research dear brother before writing a journal whcih you may propagate to people and inadvertently mislead them and earn enormous sins of misinformation as a result.  

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Dear brother -

Proclaiming the Wilaya of Ameer ul Momineen Ali was NOT added by Umer bin Abdulaziz. Only thing Umer bin Az did was discontinued the cursing on Imam Ali from the Juma' khutba that his forefathers namely Muawiah instituted and later was continued by the rest of the despots from the line of Ummayad and Marwan.

As far as procaliming the wilaya of Ali in Adhan, among Shia, this is only a mustahib (not obligatiry but preferable to proclaim) part of Adhan. From fiqh point of view, this is NOT the part of Adhan among Shia.

For sunnah people, saying the As Sala o Khair ul minal Nawm is Wajib (obligatory) part of their Adhan which was instituted by Umer and not by the Prophet.

Anything anyone add in the religion as wajib (obligatory) which was not made wajib by the Prophet; or declare haram (forbidden) not delared haram by Prophet is called Biddah or even worst, transgression against the law of Allah swt. Umer did both.

I would encourage to re-do your research dear brother before writing a journal whcih you may propagate to people and inadvertently mislead them and earn enormous sins of misinformation as a result.

Mashallah brother, thank you for sharing. Would appreciate if you could contribute a bit more which might help my work furthermore

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Salam,

What brother Irfan313 said Is absolutely correct.

But I would like to add the wisdom as to why the addition in shia is not innovation verses it is innovation in sunni.

Here is brief audio about the wisdom of azan by my teacher:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235032080-irfan-knowing-Allah/#entry2846750

The original azan which is mentioned by Imam sadiq does not consist of Ashahadu Ali-un Waliullah,

However saying it does not invalidate the azan by stating it.

But stating As Sala o Khair ul minal Nawm is a total innovation.

Why? Because Angels do not sleep !

When you listen to the audio you will understand a lot better and will DEFINITELY help you in your research

All the best Insha Allah

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Assalamalekum,

 

While I was working on my new journal I wanted to add a topic regarding the additions in Adhaan.

 

As per my knowledge, the addition of "Ashahadu Ali-un Waliullah" was added in Adhaan by Umar bin Abdul aziz (please rectify me if wrong) which was a political act against the propaganda of cursing Imam Ali (as) from the mosques.

 

My point is, if "Assalatu Khairal Minan Nawm" could be be added later on (after the death of Prophet (SAW) in Adhaan by Umar bin khattab (please rectify me if wrong), so it should be permissible also to call Ali's (as) name after adhaan.

 

Your contributions would be highly apprecaited on this regard.

 

Ameen

As salatu khairun minan naum was NOT added later on, it was added as per Rasoolullah SAW command.

 

These ahadith include the following: 

1 – It was narrated that Abu Mahdhoorah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I used to give the adhaan for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and in the first adhaan of Fajr I used to say: “Hayya ‘ala al-falaah, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar, laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (come to prosperity, prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep, Allaah is Most Great, Allaah is Most Great, there is no god but Allaah).” 

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 500; al-Nasaa’i, 647; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood

2 – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: In the first adhaan after the word al-falaah it said: Al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep).

 Shaykh al-Albaani said: 

It was narrated by al-Tahhaawi (1/82) with a hasan isnaad as al-Haafiz said in al-Talkhees (3/169). 

Al-Thamr al-Mustataab, p. 131

Detailed answer http://islamqa.info/en/45518

 

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Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep," and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh. 

Muwatta of Imam Malik

http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=3&translator=4&start=0&number=3.1.8#3.1.8

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Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep," and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh. 

Muwatta of Imam Malik

http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=3&translator=4&start=0&number=3.1.8#3.1.8

 

I have provided the answer with more than one hadith proving that this phrase is Sunnah, not Bida'h, care to read the detailed answer.

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the real issue is why do the shia not go back to the Athan in our books? How can we say the sunni have bidah athan, when we admit the athan in 99% of shia mosques is also bidah...

but according to Caliph Umar - there is good bidah and there is bad bidah. And zikr-e-ali is ibadh not bidah per the hadith of our beloved Prophet saw 

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the real issue is why do the shia not go back to the Athan in our books? How can we say the sunni have bidah athan, when we admit the athan in 99% of shia mosques is also bidah...

Salam,

 

The answer is in the fantastic audio link, about the wisdom, behind Azan and Salah :)

Anyone who really wants an answer to this can listen to the audio, I also provided above in Ghadeer's post.

If I explain it, it will definitely loose its charm.

 

http://www.shiachat....h/#entry2846750

 

Wasalam

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As far as procaliming the wilaya of Ali in Adhan, among Shia, this is only a mustahib (not obligatiry but preferable to proclaim) part of Adhan. From fiqh point of view, this is NOT the part of Adhan among Shia.

 

 

 
I personally always loved this part. 
Make such and such innovation is not obligatory, just recommended. 
 
Guys, honestly if you added something on the base that it is not obligation, can we add some more? For example why to limit yourself with one Imam, if you have 12? Why not to add all of them? But for sure it will be only preferable, not obligation.
 
Taking into consideration that you last Imam has not been seen for ages, you should indicate who is person in charge now. My suggestion add: Ashhadu anna Khamenie Wilayatul Faqeeh. Just make sure everybody understood it is not obligation. Just recommended. 
 

 

For sunnah people, saying the As Sala o Khair ul minal Nawm is Wajib (obligatory) part of their Adhan which was instituted by Umer and not by the Prophet.

 

 

 
Imam Muhammad ibn Hasan ash-Shaybani, the student of Imam Abu Haneefa said: as-Salatu Khayrun min an Nawm - place for this in the azan at Subh, AFTER FINISHING THE CALL. IT IS NOT necessary to add to the call anything that is not part of it".
Source: Muwatta li Imam Malik fi riwayat Muhammad ibn Hasan chapter 29, p 78 
 
So at least in accordance to Ahnaaf, this addition is not even part of azan. 
 
And now I have question to you, What force you lie upon sunni Muslims by speaking without knowledge?
 

 

Anything anyone add in the religion as wajib (obligatory) which was not made wajib by the Prophet; or declare haram (forbidden) not delared haram by Prophet is called Biddah or even worst, transgression against the law of Allah swt. Umer did both.

 

 

 
Hater makes you blind.
 
First - show me single place where Umar (may Allah be pleased with him, and upon his haters what they deserve) said that this addition is wajib. 
 
Just one sound proof to shut up all sahaba haters

It was narrated that Abu Mahdhoorah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I used to give the adhaan for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and in the first adhaan of Fajr I used to say: “Hayya ‘ala al-falaah, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar, laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (come to prosperity, prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep, Allaah is Most Great, Allaah is Most Great, there is no god but Allaah).”

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 500; al-Nasaa’i, 647; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

 
But Allah loves justice.
 
Main problem with shias, that you and your religion involved in continuous evolution.  You just never stop changing. What was bidah for your forefathers, became sunnah for you, what is sunnah for you, will be obligation for your grandchildren.
 
Your Truthul sheikh - as Saduq said in Man Laa YaHduruh Al-Faqeeh, vol. 1, pg. 290 – 291:
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‘This is the authentic (Sahih) Adhan, nothing is to be added or subtracted from it. The Mufawwidah’s (form of Ghulat/extremists), may Allah curse them, have fabricated traditions and have added to the Adhan مُحَمَّدٌ وَ آلُ مُحَمَّدٍ خَيْرُ الْبَرِيَّةِ (Muhammad and the family of Muhammad are the best of mankind) twice. In some of their traditions, after saying أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّداً رَسُولُ اللَّهِ (I bear witness that Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah) (they add) أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ عَلِيّاً وَلِيُّ اللَّهِ (I bear witness that ‘Ali is the Wali of Allah) twice. Among them there are others who narrate thisأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ عَلِيّاً أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (I bear witness that ‘Ali is the commander of the faithfull) twice. There is no doubt that ‘Ali is the Wali of Allah and that he is the true commander of the faithful and that Muhammad and his family, peace be upon them, are the best of creatures. However, that is not [part] of the original Adhan. I have mentioned this so that those who have been accused of concocting tafwid and have insulated themselves in our ranks should be known.“
 
 
Here is what Al-Toosi (d. 460 AH) had to say about the 3rd testimony in the adhaan.
و أمّا ما روي في شواذّ الأخبار من قول: «أشهد انّ عليا وليّ اللّه و آل محمّد خير البريّة» فممّا لا يعمل عليه في الأذان و الإقامة. فمن عمل بها كان مخطئا
Translation: “The are some odd (shaadh) reports of saying أشهد انّ عليا وليّ اللّه and آل محمّد خير البريّة. You must NOT do it in the Adhaan and Iqaamah. And whoever does this action is in mukhTi (error)
Source:
 Al-Toosi, Al-Nihaayah fee Mujarrad Al-Fiqh wa Al-Fataawaa, pg. 69
 
 

Shaheed Al-Thaanee said about 3rd testimony in Adhaan & Iqaamah

و أمّا إضافة «أنّ عليّاً وليّ اللّه»، و «آل محمّد خير البريّة» و نحو ذلك فبدعة، و أخبارها موضوعة
Translation: “And addition (to the adhaan & iqaamah) of عليّاً وليّ اللّه and آل محمّد خير البريّة is a bid’ah and the narrations regarding it (3rd testimony) is mawDoo’ (fabricated).”

Source:

 Shaheed Al-Thaanee, Al-RawDah Al-Jinaan fee sharH Irshaad Al-Adhhaan, vol. 2, pg. 646
 

Here is what Al-Muhaqqiq Al-Sabzawaaree (d. 1090 AH) had to say about the 3rd testimony in Adhaan.

و أمّا إضافة أنّ عليّا وليّ اللَّه و آل محمّد خير البريّة و أمثال ذلك فقد صرّح الأصحاب بكونها بدعة و إن كان حقّا صحيحا إذ الكلام في دخولها في الأذان و هو موقوف على التوقيف الشرعي و لم يثب
Translation: “And about adding the أنّ عليّا وليّ اللَّه and آل محمّد خير البريّة , the jurists have clearly stated that this is a bid’ah. And the statement is true. But adding it to the adhaan is dependent upon its divine ordainment. (al-tawqeef al-shar’ee)”
Source:
Al-Sabzawaareee (d. 1090), Dhakheerah Al-Ma’aad fee sharH Al-Irshaad, vol. 2, pg. 244
 
Seems only Nader here reading your own books.
 
Cheers!
 
 

Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep," and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh. 

Muwatta of Imam Malik

http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=3&translator=4&start=0&number=3.1.8#3.1.8

 

Report narrated in /balaghane/ form. Yane`e without any chain. Mursal=Weak, especially taking into consideration sound, connected reports that this was taught by our beloved prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).

See how hypocrite this attack upon commander of faithful, seems to us - simple sunnis?!!

 

Shias: Umar added to azan - as Salatu khayrun min nawm! This is bidah! He is mubtadi! 

 

But we do add Ashhadu anna alian waliullah. This addition is fine, because it is not part of azan! WHAT THE HECK? 

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 Abu_Rumaysah,

 

That is pretty much what we are saying. Im not disagreeing with you, and neither will anyone else, as these are facts.

 

I think the reality is that those who know, eg the educated would say the original athan, and the lay people, or the masses will just stick to what they heard over time regardless of its source.

 

What is irritating is that the educated seem happy for the lay to continue in ignorance. Eg the matter is clear, why is it that the athan is not clearly laid out by the Marjas  so the lay people will know what is right ? They simply say the extra words must not be read with the intention of athan, thats just a play on words and we all know it.

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Abu_Rumaysah,

That is pretty much what we are saying. Im not disagreeing with you, and neither will anyone else, as these are facts.

I think the reality is that those who know, eg the educated would say the original athan, and the lay people, or the masses will just stick to what they heard over time regardless of its source.

What is irritating is that the educated seem happy for the lay to continue in ignorance. Eg the matter is clear, why is it that the athan is not clearly laid out by the Marjas so the lay people will know what is right ? They simply say the extra words must not be read with the intention of athan, thats just a play on words and we all know it.

Salam,

Your question has been amazingIy answered now that you require proof.

The answer is in the fantastic audio link, about the wisdom, behind Azan and Salah :)

Anyone who really wants an answer to this can listen to the audio.

If I explain it, it will definitely loose its charm.

http://www.shiachat....h/#entry2846750

Wasalam

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Salam,

Your question has been amazingIy answered now that you require proof.

The answer is in the fantastic audio link, about the wisdom, behind Azan and Salah :)

Anyone who really wants an answer to this can listen to the audio.

If I explain it, it will definitely loose its charm.

http://www.shiachat....h/#entry2846750

Wasalam

 

 

Tendersoul,

 

Im a little annoyed, I listened to the audio, I cant find any reference to additions in athan in it. Can you let me know at which point they discuss additions in athan?

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Salaam.

 

According to the sunni school of thought, the recitation of as salaat khairal [.....] is established part of adhaan. They do not recognise that it was 'added' later.

 

The shia school of thought do acknowledge that 'aliun waliullah' isn't part of the adhan and have added it, althought with the intention it's not part of the adhan...

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Salaam.

 

According to the sunni school of thought, the recitation of as salaat khairal [.....] is established part of adhaan. They do not recognise that it was 'added' later.

 

Seems I need to repeat:

 

Imam Muhammad ibn Hasan ash-Shaybani, the student of Imam Abu Haneefa said: as-Salatu Khayrun min an Nawm - place for this in the azan at Subh, AFTER FINISHING THE CALL. IT IS NOT necessary to add to the call anything that is not part of it".
Source: Muwatta li Imam Malik fi riwayat Muhammad ibn Hasan chapter 29, p 78 

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Salam, 

Then what is it?

The hadith from Abu Dawud that it is a practice since Rasulullah or the chainless hadith from Malik's Muawatta that it was added by Umar or the words of Muhammad ibn Hassan ash-Shaybani that it was an addition and is not obligatory.

The funny thing of sunnism is that for every hadith they have a counter-hadith or saying or whatever which contradicts the other. 

One rejoices over the fact how swift and smooth one is in hopping from one contradiction towards the other considering this an honourable skill instead of realizing that one is defending a card-house of contradictions and that people cannot distinguish the trees from the wood anymore.

 

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