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How Exactly Did Hussain A.s Save Islam?

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salamunalaykum,

 

condolensces on this sad occasion.

 

I feel one important way to show the importance and appeal of Imam Hussain a.s to sunni's, and also perhaps to shia's is to hilight and stipulate exactly how his actions saved Islam - what political waves they set, and the details of how his actions sparked further revolutions.

 

This topic itself isn't discussed so much, and it would certainly help. If someone could see logically how his actions saved Islam, be it a sunni brother or sister, they may feel more indebted, more connected, and may want to take more part in commemorating and remembering the great sacrifice.

 

It also needs to be discussed and hilighted more as a refutation to certain 'scholars' watering down the events as a clash between 'two princes' for power.

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I made a topic about the resistance of ahlulbayt to the taghut a long time ago either as Awakened or Link, I don't remember.

 

I spoke about how they step by step, approached this issue in their Seerah and explained how the Quran and Seerah of the Nabi compliments their movement and actions.

 

I don't remember where it is, but we see a lot of people liking Qaim's verison of Ashura where Imam Hussain simply sacrificed himself with no intention of victory or hope. I'm afraid if this is what Islam is about, then Sunnis are right, Imam Hussain did nothing to save Islam or change the status quo. All he did is make himself an object of tears and sorrow for injustice...like there isn't enough injustice to cry about that hasn't happened on earth including God's chosen ones like his Prophets that were killed.

 

I will try to find it.

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Salam,

Hussain (as) tried his best to uphold the Light of Islam as taught by his Grandfather, Muhammad Rasulullah. Yazid opposed to that by upholding the ideology uphold by his father,Muawiyah ibnul Abu Suffian.

Without the example of struggle from al-Hussain (as), the muawiyah type of ideology will rule the future muslim world un-opposed.

That is how Hussain (as) saved Islam. He set the example for us to follow and understand.

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Imam Hussain saving Islam equates to a fallible like Yazeed had the power to destroy Islam forever, which is absurd and above all contradicts the Quran. Yazeed was nothing more than a corrupt fallible power hungry leader, history is filled with them.

 

Unfortunately, Shias will exaggerate anything to propel the status of Ahlul Bayt, no matter if it's logical/consistent or not. If anyone doesn't agree with these types of exaggerations ('Hussain saved Islam'), he/she is considered a hater of Ahlul Bayt.

 

So the answer is pretty simple, and Quran is clear. Islam is protected by Allah, and it will be until the day of judgement. 

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It's fair to say that a lot of deviance occurred under Ummayad rule (Nasibism, playing with the Shari'ah, the introduction of different sects and belief systems).

Islam is forever influenced by their actions.

But yes, Islam will always be protected by Allah. And that's what happened in Karbala, the Imam only acted within God's commands to protect His Religion.

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Salam,

Imam Hussain a.s. was the only living representative of Islam in that time. 

He a.s. could choose to stay alive and do nothing which was against Islamic principles or to fight against the tyranny and corruption of Islam by risking his own life. 

He a.s. chose for the last option and therefore did he a.s. saved Islam. Not Islam as a worldly Empire but as a principle and a religion with a core meaning.

Edited by Skanderbeg

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Imam Hussain saving Islam equates to a fallible like Yazeed had the power to destroy Islam forever, which is absurd and above all contradicts the Quran. Yazeed was nothing more than a corrupt fallible power hungry leader, history is filled with them.

 

Unfortunately, Shias will exaggerate anything to propel the status of Ahlul Bayt, no matter if it's logical/consistent or not. If anyone doesn't agree with these types of exaggerations ('Hussain saved Islam'), he/she is considered a hater of Ahlul Bayt.

 

So the answer is pretty simple, and Quran is clear. Islam is protected by Allah, and it will be until the day of judgement. 

 

Quranic verse clearly says that 

"The Holy Book Quran is sent by Allah and with no doubt ,Allah is its protector"

 

Allah promised the safety of Quran (which is a guideline to Islam)  and not of Islam . If Hazrat Hussain(A.S) didn't saved Islam because according to your statement ,its already saved by Allah ,then according to history books, how did people like "Mujadad Alif Saani" etc saved Islam from great danger ???

And that the Caliphs did their efforts to prevent Quran from variations while it was already saved by its Creator ?? 

Isn't that a double standard for other personalities and Hussain(A.S) ?? 

(Please don't take it personal.Its just a discussion.)

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There is a famous hadith of the prophet Muhammad (sa) which says " Verily Hussain is the shining light of guidance and the ark of salvation". According to this hadith Imam Hussain compared to the ark that whoever follows him, will be salvaged.

But here this question arised that what character Imam Hussain (sa) had which distinguished him from other Imams.

Why the title of "the light of guidance and the ark of salvation" used only for Imam Husain (sa)?

In answer, we have to focus on the situation and the conditions of Imam's age. In the age of Imam Hussain, Bani Umayyah had deviated the real face of Islam. It is clear that this Islam couldn't be guidance for the people. In this Islam, the caliph was a person who gambled, drank and so on. In the Islam of Yazid, there was discrimination and the caliph of society prayed in darkness.

Imam Hussain in his will and letters, described the situation of his age and difficulties which Islam faced with those. He wrote thus:

 

"And surely the aim of my stand is not inspired by vain exultation and it is also not for the quest of kingdom, Neither it is to cause dissension and corruption nor it is to wrong anybody unjustly."

 

These sentences of Imam Hussain (A) are sufficient enough to beat all the criticisms and accusation leveled against him by the enemies of Islam and the enemies of Imam Hussain (A).Now the question arises if these were not the motives of Imam's uprising than why did he took stand? What were the aims of his uprising? Thus continued Imam Hussain (a)

 

"The purpose of my stand is the reformation of my grandfather's nation. I intend to enjoin goodness and forbid evil. I want to emulate my grandfather, the Holy Prophet (S)and my father Alt Bin Abu Talib (A). Whosoever accepts me by accepting the truth, then Allah is higher than the truth. And whosoever rejects me then I will bear patiently until Allah adjudges between me and them and He is the best Judge."

So we can claim that Imam Hussain (as) watered the tree of Islam by his blood, he sacrificed his family even his little son which was only six month. Why he did this sacrifice?

Imam Hussain had this duty to guide the people of his age by sacrifice himself. He wanted to revive the Islam and the main principle of Islam that is Enjoining Good and Forbidding Evil.

He emphasized on the Renewal and Revival of the tradition of the Holy Prophet (S) and Imam Ali (A).

Even Imam Hussain in a one sentence, says "Bid Islam farewell if authority over the nation is vested on a ruler such as Yazid." This shows that the core of Islam was in danger and he didn’t have any choice except standing against the tyrant.  

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Even Imam Hussain in a one sentence, says "Bid Islam farewell if authority over the nation is vested on a ruler such as Yazid." This shows that the core of Islam was in danger and he didn’t have any choice except standing against the tyrant.  

Why have you not referenced this quote? You just made it up, didn't you?

The fact is that even if the Imam had chosen not to fought, he would've been killed and that would have generated enough controversy anyway. The idea that there was not a single person who had an unfavourable view of Yazid is utterly unrealistic. One does not need to believe Hussein as an Imam in order to see that Yazid's actions were not congruous with the Qur'an.

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salamunalaykum,

 

condolensces on this sad occasion.

 

I feel one important way to show the importance and appeal of Imam Hussain a.s to sunni's, and also perhaps to shia's is to hilight and stipulate exactly how his actions saved Islam - what political waves they set, and the details of how his actions sparked further revolutions.

 

This topic itself isn't discussed so much, and it would certainly help. If someone could see logically how his actions saved Islam, be it a sunni brother or sister, they may feel more indebted, more connected, and may want to take more part in commemorating and remembering the great sacrifice.

 

It also needs to be discussed and hilighted more as a refutation to certain 'scholars' watering down the events as a clash between 'two princes' for power.

Salam,

Pardon me for not bringing any textual evidence for what I'm going to list but I hope you will find the text somewhere :

First to answer these accusations, you have to clarify the common grounds upon which all muslims should stand. I am going to list a number of issues and In Sha Allah with good search you will find more substance for your quest:

 

1- What's the islam stance of the government as concept? Dose islam promote authority? Dose islam promote anarchy?

2- Is it wajib to establish a government? Is it wajib to set a leader?

3- If a leader is to be chosen , are there any qualities? Revise the teachings regarding the just ruler and the unjust ruler :الحاكم العادل و الحاكم الجائر

4-If a ruler is set by Allah or the prophet, should such ruler fight to keep such authority or he can abandon his post?

5-Is there any implication to give allegiance to an unjust ruler? If Imam Hussain did not make it super clear that the likes of Yazid are unworthy of any loyalty, and if ignorants gave the likes of Yazid allegiance , would that affect their spirituality?

 

Will Islam survive if Muslim didn't practice it properly nor understood its teachings properly? If I saved Muslims from their ignorance, didn't I save Islam?

 

Sadly, Sunnis hardly do any literature review regarding this topic.

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Salam,

Pardon me for not bringing any textual evidence for what I'm going to list but I hope you will find the text somewhere :

First to answer these accusations, you have to clarify the common grounds upon which all muslims should stand. I am going to list a number of issues and In Sha Allah with good search you will find more substance for your quest:

 

1- What's the islam stance of the government as concept? Dose islam promote authority? Dose islam promote anarchy?

2- Is it wajib to establish a government? Is it wajib to set a leader?

3- If a leader is to be chosen , are there any qualities? Revise the teachings regarding the just ruler and the unjust ruler :الحاكم العادل و الحاكم الجائر

4-If a ruler is set by Allah or the prophet, should such ruler fight to keep such authority or he can abandon his post?

5-Is there any implication to give allegiance to an unjust ruler? If Imam Hussain did not make it super clear that the likes of Yazid are unworthy of any loyalty, and if ignorants gave the likes of Yazid allegiance , would that affect their spirituality?

 

Will Islam survive if Muslim didn't practice it properly nor understood its teachings properly? If I saved Muslims from their ignorance, didn't I save Islam?

 

Sadly, Sunnis hardly do any literature review regarding this topic.

 

There is no simple answers to all these questions really, although some seem simple. For example, in Canada, it's not for us to establish an Islamic country while people don't even believe in Islam.  We should however work for justice in this country and do our best to make lives better here. 

 

The question arises, even if people don't recognize the Imam of time, does the Imam of time give up on the people? If they think he is a good leader but perhaps not divinely chosen, do they force everyone to accept he is chosen or be fought? 

 

If a leader is just but not Ma'asoom and not manifested by God, is his obedience really obligatory or is his leadership more of a role that he plays by permission of the people as opposed to having authority?

 

Anarchy is not necessarily without structure in society, but anarchist believe people can organize and run the show. Perhaps Quran alludes to such position when it's say "their affair is Shura (consultation) among themselves".

 

This as opposed to simply one leader. I'm not sure if any of these questions any group of Muslims have really thought that deeply about.

 

Obviously, Imam Ali abandoned his post and so did Imam Hassan, but it was as explained by them, due not to having wings to fly nor the fruits being ripened for them to rise up.

 

Sometimes, if you do allegiance to a ruler, you show that allegiance is not that of total legitimacy, you go on to teach the truth of Wilayah, prepare people for upholding the teachings of revelation and justice, prepare the people to support the right cause and recognize the true party of God.

 

We see Yusuf do some diplomacy - this is ok. The situation however is then he goes to call towards Tawheed, tries to get people to submit to God and his commands, and towards the authority of the family of Ibrahim.

 

However, is this day and age, does Quran really promote government as in top authority or republics as opposed to organized anarchy that is more grass roots organization of society...I don't know. Perhaps even a middle ground between the two is what Quran calls to.

Edited by StrugglingForTheLight

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