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Building Hindu Temple In Abu Dhabi

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Blaming achievements that Allah reveal as blessing to humanity as maximizing human disobedience to God? It just the ignorance and arrogance that leads them to disobedience.

God gave Pharaoh a lot of blessings, good blessings, he used them to maximize his disobedience and claimed to be god himself.

This is what I said about west, bad use of good things.

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Fair enough.

No, nothing rude about it. In fact, if we want "religious tolerance", why stop at Hindu Temples, in fact, let's keep going and open up a Satanist Worshipping Site too. Many Westerners work in the UAE, is the UAE denying them their right to visit clubs and bars? Yes or no?

Why do you say "religious tolerance" as if it was some sort of meaningless western joke?

There is a difference between setting rules on entertainment (such as bars and pubs) and rules for religion. Religion should be openly and freely practiced. Yet if you are going to be exclusive in your religious tolerance as a country, then dont bring thounsands of hindus to work to your country and then deny them a human right such as religious freedom.

Each person should be free to pray and follow his or her religion without being judged by anyone. I don't see why hindus should be an exception when they suppose an important community in the country.

Such intolerance has no other basis than fear, close mindedness and lack of empathy and commitment to human rights, in my honest opinion. And I would even label it as racist.

Don't bring the topic of satanism as it has nothing to do here. It just depicts the fact it is rather a matter of fear and intolerance than a religious question.

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No, not in Muslim land. In a country which runs on Sharia, Hindu Temples would be seen as a main source of deviation and innovation, and these Laws would protect the Muslims from deviating, wal iyadhu billah.

These Hindus knew the troubles they would face if they move to the UAE, just like everyone knows the troubles they face if they move to another country. It would be stupid to move and go work in Saudi Arabia if you're openly gay, so don't go. It's your job to respect the rules of the country you move to. If you very much need to go (money issues), than you still have to abide by the rules.

Such "intolerance" is based on Holy Scripture. If 2015 Muslims really have something against the rules of the Holy Sharia, than that says something about our Ummah, and how they're affected by liberal propaganda.

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I don't have propaganda for breakfast, I did research on the topic and judged accordingly.

Considering there are around half a million practicing hindus in the UAE, this shouldn't even be debatable. They constitute a significant community in the UAE. Problem is this politized religious approach for one aspect but not for all of them. It is the double standard we have been talking about since the start of the debate.

In a globalized world, a hindu temple supposes the least threat for religiosity. The biggest threat to religion is religious biggotry, ignorant attitudes and intolerance within our communities, paving the way for the expansion of secular humanism.

However, in the other hand, with each kind gesture, with each manifestation of truly deep spiritual commitment to work for the benefit of others without expecting anything in return, religion gains meaning in the eyes of wise people once again.

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I believe there was wisdom in the decision of Rasulullah s.a.w. to expel all idol-worshippers from Hejaz. But I don't know how we should deal with idol-worshippers outside Hejaz. 

Didn't the second caliph permitted fire-worshippers in Persia as long they paid Jizyah and what was the stance of Amir Al-Mumineen a.s. towards it?

Personally, I do not like Hinduism but we have to live and let live. Ghandi for example knew to bring people together and I see him as an example for all religionists. He was very respectful towards muslims though and I believe we also should be the better ones as muslims.

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Why do you say "religious tolerance" as if ijoke?

There is a difference between setting rules on entertainment (such as bars and pubs) and rules for religion. Religion should be openly and freely practiced. Yet if you are going to be exclusive in your religious tolerance as a country, then dont bring thounsands of hindus to work to your country and then deny them a human right such as religious freedom.

Each person should be free to pray and follow his or her religion without being judged by anyone. I don't see why hindus should be an exception when they suppose an important community in the country.

Such intolerance has no other basis than fear, close mindedness and lack of empathy and commitment to human rights, in my honest opinion. And I would even label it as racist.

Don't bring the topic of satanism as it has nothing to do here. It just depicts the fact it is rather a matter of fear and intolerance than a religious question.

Good reply, Bakir. This should conclude the thread. But I hope you do realise that you're wasting your time with 7th grade level kids when hindu mandir leads to bars and satanism (whatever that might be).

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Wonder how millions of muslims would feel about all the mosques being banned in the intolerant secular west.

 

Salam/Shalom/Peace King,

 

I'm thankful that the West does have freedom of religion!

 

However, the West didn't always have freedom of religion. When the Catholics and Protestants took turns fighting each other for control of parts of Europe and "America", many people sadly suffered. :( Neither the Catholics nor the Protestants obeyed Jesus Christ's commands to love. :(

 

However, nowadays thank God, Catholics and Protestants agree to disagree, and agree to co-exist in the West with people of other beliefs, including Muslims and Hindus. :) That is a gift from God! :)

 

I wish the West had always had freedom of religion... if so, then many people would not have died and been persecuted.

 

Anyways, I am glad the Hindu people can worship what they believe is true in Abu Dhabi. :)

 

Peace and God bless you

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Batman just give up, you lost this debate. I am impressed by Bakir's posts.

 

lol. So says the anti-Islamic government boy.

In few years Batman's content will be used by Australian govt to deport his pure self from Australia's impure society.....and I am sure he is aiming for such an outcome.

 

I love my country, Australia. And I recognise that Australia is not ruled by religion, but don't be telling Muslims how to run their country.

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In few years Batman's content will be used by Australian govt to deport his pure self from Australia's impure society.....and I am sure he is aiming for such an outcome.

The Aussies who stole the land from the Aboriginals and commited genocide on a hughe scale? Don't come to teach Batman about norms and standards because until now ISIS is a puppy compared to what your 'civilisation' did to humanity.

I thought this forum was free from white supremacism but now I see a representative in the form of a pseudo scholar philosopher telling us how to think and behave.

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The Aussies who stole the land from the Aboriginals and commited genocide on a hughe scale? Don't come to teach Batman about norms and standards because until now ISIS is a puppy compared to what your 'civilisation' did to humanity.

I thought this forum was free from white supremacism but now I see a representative in the form of a pseudo scholar philosopher telling us how to think and behave.

 

The subject at hand is Hindu Temple and not the ethics of white colonialist Australians. Say they are incarnation of evil....what does that say about the Muslims who depend on them?

Evil they may have been....better than most self proclaimed men of faith they are today. Judge someone by their action and not something their forefathers did 200 years ago. We judge ISIS by their actions today and not what their forefathers did 200 years ago. no? Write that down.

Those Australians today, who allow all people to live with dignity and honor and practice their faith freely, are 1 million times better than all those Muslims who have issues with a community of people practicing their faith freely in a Muslim majority country. Write this down as well so you wont forget.

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I don't see the relevance. 

 

why cant you always discuss the issue at hand instead of injecting your poison in every thread...I yet have to hear your thoughts on an issue as everything is your opinions pointed at me.

if you want to enter a debate....say your point of view one way or another....no need to get personal...cuz others too could return the favor..

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If a blind cant see the sun it is hardly the sign of absence of the sun. Go back to all my post....I have explained every point I have had and usually justified them through the concept of reciprocally. If your idea of Islamic debate is demonizing all those who fall outside of the pop-norm then you are right.


And unlike Magma I have never said 'oh i hate this because it is so and so' I have always provided reasons for my point of view and highlighted double std, hypocrisy and the like  


And lastly we all are not very different as we all are ordinary people. The only difference that I see is I try to speak in accordance to my actions where Islam is my life's doing and not some theory to discuss hypothetically.

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Guys

 

You are all a bit extreme , yo know?

 

First of all, it isn't being built in any of your lands. Secondly, your opinions are not going to a fact its building. Thirdly, Islam dose not call for destruction of already present worship houses BUT building a worship house on islamic majority (or even exclusively) land is not allowed.

 

That's basic along with the fact that hundism is pagan religion. Laws of islam are not the same as laws of west. They allow interest, islam forbade it. They allow exploitation of women bodies, islam forbade it.

The west allows any sort of religion to exist, islam has restrictions.

 

 

That is not our topic, because that is not a topic to discuss, it is just laws and rules to learn, nothing can come out from objecting on them.

Our Topic is the building of hindu temple in UAE. There are churches and a known satanism community there but three hundu temples in UAE where most of these hindu if not all of them are expats , is something to wonder about.

 

anyways, it was just an interesting piece of news i thought i'd share. Casinos and bars are being built in all arab countries, even in Quds (the arabic side) they are given blessings by the rich arabs who are known to be very very very practicing muzlemz .

Bahrian is a shia majority land, it has some of the finest casinos in the region with room service. The customers are saudis in majority.

but these are sins.

temples are shirk and there is huge HUGE gap between sinner and polytheist.

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