Why Calling Us Yajuj And Majuj?

[mogol]

we find that some arab, persian and christan people call us (we were Turk and Mongol people) yajuj and majuj...

 

I am mongol (direct descenced of Ghengis Khan - from eldest son Jochi) and my friends are tukic (mongol at the same time) people from mongol steppe...

but we are muslim, so why we - the mongol and turks are yajuj and maju? why you all call us yajuj and majuj while we were muslim, why say bad words without any prove from Alla?

and our anchectors Berke Khan, Uzbek Khan, The Golden Horde, Timurid Khan (Timurlane), Kazakh khan, Turk Ottaman empire, and the Mamuluks (Mostly turkic origin) of Egypt and Mughals are the protector of islam from the invasion of christan and buddish since 14th century, from the 2nd Great King of Mongol Empire.... even the mongol ruler who regined China is muslim mongol?

 

for comparision:

1. yajuj and maju has very big poulation

- Turk and Mogol people all togather are only 3-5 million (in 11-14th century) at that time. Chinese nearly 100 million and Arab-Persian people more than 50 million at least. Europe has 110 million populations .

we Turk and Mongols has very small population comparing to Chinese, Europe and Arab-Persians. and deafeated 1 million chinese solider and half million persian soilder with 120,000 soilder even less... untill 20,000... and yajuj majuj would have big population.

 

2. yajuj and majuy are as tall as 30 Meter

- no one has seen 30 Meter tall people .

We Turk and Mongols are as tall as normal human in past till now, a bit stronger due to that we born and grow on the back of horse , and mostly eat meat and drink milk of cattle and horse.

 

3. yajuj and majuj came nearly before or around the presence of Mahdi and Isa s.w.s

- but Alla give the power of earth to Turks and Mongols in 1th to 17th century in the past , not now....

 

4. did the Isa ask Alla to kill Turk and Mongol people in past?

- this was not happened and our ansector Turk and Mongols passed people already.

 

also, now 21 century there are:

Turk and Mongol - only 100-150 millin alltogather (actually 70% of Turks of iran, azerbaijan, uzbek and turkish is not the original Turk and Mongols, they were assimilated or turkified perisians mostly, so we have about 70 million population)

Arabs - more than 450 million alone

Persian - 90 million

Arab-Persian - about 550 million

Chinese - 1600 million

Europe - 700 million people (include russia)

 

then how do you call us (Turk and Mongol people) yajuj and majuj?

why you were not considering the points which i have shown to you?

 

except that

 

- Turk and Mongol kings kin to Islam and they protected and expended (or allow to extend) islam at very large degree

- most khans of Turk and Mongol is muslim, even at our time several king of whole china is Muslim mongols, this ever nerver happend ever before, but took place during Mongol empire

- the Turk and Mongol kings like Berke Khan, Timurid Khan (Timurlane), Uzbek Kha, Oguz Khan, Karahanids, Golden Horde, Blue Horde and Chagatai Horde of Mongols. Mamulik (mostly Turkic origin) declare the islam as the religion of whole country

- and these above countries were fight againist christan and buddish, and defeated them very effectively, stoped their expension to almost all part of Asia

 

please avoid short sighted vision and dogmatisim , please fresh your mind with iman and true knowledge.

 

then why all of you call us - the We Turk and Mongol people as Yajuj and Majuj?.... even our empires were fight for islam, fight for Muhammandian religon and greatly succeded in protecting islam relgion from invaders with the help of might Tengri - The Allah.?

[repenter-gone4awhile]

Im confused.....

[thuglife]

Who called you yayuj and majuj

 

And who are yayuj and majuj

[Chaotic Muslem]

Im confused.....

In tarsier books as well as in NT and OT (or their exegesis), Yajoj and Ma'juj or Gog and Magog are said to be The turks and Mongols or whoever lived in that area back then. Even the great dam that Dhul Qarnain had built is said to be in central asia (alexander gate or another gate close by, near russia).

 

Where I am we call Chinese as Gog and Magog, not that we believe them to be but as a metaphor due to their huge numbers.

[Skanderbeg]

Gog and Magog are not a certain people but a coalition of countries formed under a World Power.

[smiley123]

the brother was commenting on a thread here a few days ago, it was a huge thread discussing yajuj majuj/mongols and some people were saying mongols might be yajuj majuj

i rememeber in the thread someone was actually comparing prophet Mohammed pbuh to ghengis khan you must remember. and to OP only a very small minority of people thing mongols could be yajuj majuj

[mogol]

Who called you yayuj and majuj

 

And who are yayuj and majuj

 

please, read here: they calling us (We are Mongol and Turk people) yajuj and majuj: please look at on this topic, then you will know it :

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235025528-isis-is-yajuj-and-majuj/page-3#entry2826934

[mogol]

Im confused.....

it is clear that some people say us (we are Turk and Mongol) yajuj and majuj even e were with little pouplation and while we are muslim. this is proving we are not hte yajuj and majuj.

 

except these points

- almost all Turk and Mongol peoples are not Polytheism in religon before they accepting Muhhamadian religon that they belive in one Tengir (it is mean God, Allah, Kudai in Turk and Mongol language), they did not worship many Gods as others did, they have only one God called Tangir or Tengir and worshiped on this, thats why they easily accept Islam

- they are monoheism whom worships in one Tengir or Tangir

[mogol]

the brother was commenting on a thread here a few days ago, it was a huge thread discussing yajuj majuj/mongols and some people were saying mongols might be yajuj majuj

i rememeber in the thread someone was actually comparing prophet Mohammed pbuh to ghengis khan you must remember. and to OP only a very small minority of people thing mongols could be yajuj majuj

Yes exactly, thanks for your understanding...

[ChattingwithShias]

Sunni hadith compilation Saheeh Al Bukhari:

 

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

Edited August 6, 2015 by ChattingwithShias

[mogol]

Sunni hadith compilation Saheeh Al Bukhari:

 

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

 

The Hour will not establish untill Muhammad s.w.s came? is it bad sign, it is same.

Al-Buhari (Muhammad al-Bukhari) is Turk himself, they are from Central Asia from Turkstan. those people who is doing a great of Fitna was located middle east. middle east is east for Muhammad s.w.s, too.

[mogol]

Sunni hadith compilation Saheeh Al Bukhari:

 

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

Actually most of these Great Hadith narrotors are from central asia, buhara , horasan etc. from the land of Turks.

[mogol]

In tarsier books as well as in NT and OT (or their exegesis), Yajoj and Ma'juj or Gog and Magog are said to be The turks and Mongols or whoever lived in that area back then. Even the great dam that Dhul Qarnain had built is said to be in central asia (alexander gate or another gate close by, near russia).

 

Where I am we call Chinese as Gog and Magog, not that we believe them to be but as a metaphor due to their huge numbers.

 

so, there are about 30 million muslims in China, so are they Gog and Magog too???

[ChattingwithShias]

The Hour will not establish untill Muhammad s.w.s came? is it bad sign, it is same.

Al-Buhari (Muhammad al-Bukhari) is Turk himself, they are from Central Asia from Turkstan. those people who is doing a great of Fitna was located middle east. middle east is east for Muhammad s.w.s, too.

 

Bukhari and the other hadith compilers were actually Persians. At the time the Turks hadn't taken over cities like Bukhara yet, they were former Sassanian territories. It wasn't until centuries later that the Central Asian countries like modern day Uzbekistan etc became populated by majority Turkic-populations.

 

Khorasan is an eastern Iranian province. Now most of it (the parts outside modern Iran) are populated by Turkic peoples, but this was not the case back then. It was also the seat of the Abbasid revolution which was led by Persian generals.

 

The Turks did a lot for Islam militarily but this was after their conversions from the 11th century and onward. 

[mogol]

Bukhari and the other hadith compilers were actually Persians. At the time the Turks hadn't taken over cities like Bukhara yet, they were former Sassanian territories. It wasn't until centuries later that the Central Asian countries like modern day Uzbekistan etc became populated by majority Turkic-populations.

 

Khorasan is an eastern Iranian province. Now most of it (the parts outside modern Iran) are populated by Turkic peoples, but this was not the case back then. It was also the seat of the Abbasid revolution which was led by Persian generals.

 

The Turks did a lot for Islam militarily but this was after their conversions from the 11th century and onward. 

 

thanks, Turks start to embrace Islam from 7-8th centry, not 11th, but some Turk and Mongol tribe were accepted from 11th...

[Q.A]

i think they are aliens so dont worry.

[Skanderbeg]

i think they are aliens so dont worry.

No they will be humans.

[Q.A]

No they will be humans.

hmmmm typical alien tactics........ive found one on shia chat

[Guest another way]

modern turki peoples are not the same with their in original, so do all the peoples in china, russia, Europe, parsia, and the rest of the world. I am interesting to have an opinion that the juj n majuj is something like:

1. our each country are not in original at now.

2. a race may inter-married with another race (where that is not in closed possibilities that they are in truth not origin anymore at beginning. it is still sincron with a one of fatsal in hadist??? (sorry I forget..) that telling us a misterious meaning that 999 of 1000 of us is jajuj majuj is it so interesting?

3. for me: in general, as country, yajuj means the west block (nato and its coalition) and majuj (russia, china and its coalition).

4. for me: in general, they all bad n mad countries that make Arab lands at all, just like a gate for genocide activities. rasul ever warning us about that.. but that is up to your opinion..

thanks my brothers around the world. may Allah save us.. ameen..