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Why Is Israel Looking For Imam Mahdi?

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During the US occupation of Iraq it was routine to torture Iraqis in prisons like Abu Ghraib whose prison guards were using tactics learnt in Israeli training camps as Robert Fisk pointed out in ‘Abu Ghraib torture trail leads to Israel’; one of the most baffling questions asked during interrogation was “Where is the man called Imam Mahdi where is he hiding?”

According to Mohabat News a pro –Israel Iranian Christian news agency, the fear of the hidden Imam is so credible that they posted news of how the CIA and MI6 have been going to Iraq for the past 20 years to get information about imam Mahdi; how they tortured religious scholars and innocent villagers to ask question based on where the Imam was last seen? Which city? What time and when will he be coming again and in which year?

American corporate media has already shown sinister documentaries depicting the hidden messiah who is apparently advising Iranian politicians from his lofty hidden position and manoeuvring to bring about Armageddon.

So who is this Imam Mahdi that the Zionists controlling the American Congress and the international monetary system on the look- out for with orders to shoot him on sight.

Imam Mahdi is the 12th Shia Imam and according to Islamic hadiths is in ‘occultation’ or hidden and will return to earth to establish peace and justice on earth. He was born on July 29 869 in the city of Samarra, Iraq and his mother Nargis was of Roman descent.

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/11/why-is-israel-looking-for-imam-mahdi/

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This isn't really anything to be honest, it just shows their level of ignorance.  Its no different than when they torture Musim prisoners and ask them about this mysterious "Ahmad b Hanbal."  They literally think these are contemporary figures

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No why? please explain.

Because according to their Book and knowledge they knew Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. would appear in Medina. They were awaiting him s.a.w. as their redeemer but when they realized he s.a.w. was of Bani Ishmael and not of the Bani Israel they saddened and started to oppose the Prophet s.a.w.

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Because according to their Book and knowledge they knew Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. would appear in Medina. They were awaiting him s.a.w. as their redeemer but when they realized he s.a.w. was of Bani Ishmael and not of the Bani Israel they saddened and started to oppose the Prophet s.a.w.

So this is basic of their enmity towards Islam and Muslims.

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There was no emnity in Jewish communities towards Islam and Muslims before Zionism. Despite various theological agruments (which is normal, of course, for a believing person to have religious arguments), Islam was always considered the closest religion to Judaism.

 

Enmity towards Islam and Muslims in Zionist circles is anti-traditional, because Zionism is a destructive anti-Jewish heresy inspired by European colonialism. There is nothing Jewish in it. Authentic Judaism and Zionism are two diametrical opposites.

 

 

So this is basic of their enmity towards Islam and Muslims.


Can you provide the source of this information?

 

Jews is Medina were, most likely, also of Bani Ishmael, local Arabic converts to Judaism. The Himyarite kingdom in today's Yemen was a major center of mass conversions of Judaism. Its kings became Jews, starting from the 4th-5th century and actively promoted Judaism is their official religion.

 

 

Because according to their Book and knowledge they knew Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. would appear in Medina. They were awaiting him s.a.w. as their redeemer but when they realized he s.a.w. was of Bani Ishmael and not of the Bani Israel they saddened and started to oppose the Prophet s.a.w.

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There was no emnity in Jewish communities towards Islam and Muslims before Zionism. Despite various theological agruments (which is normal, of course, for a believing person to have religious arguments), Islam was always considered the closest religion to Judaism.

 

Enmity towards Islam and Muslims in Zionist circles is anti-traditional, because Zionism is a destructive anti-Jewish heresy inspired by European colonialism. There is nothing Jewish in it. Authentic Judaism and Zionism are two diametrical opposites.

 

Are there any Jewish - Zionist scholarly debates in English that you can recommend?

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Are there any Jewish - Zionist scholarly debates in English that you can recommend?

 

 

I recommend Yakov Rabkin's book A Threat from Within: A Century of Jewish Opposition to Zionism (originally written in French and available in many other languages). The author is a Canadian university professor and an Orthodox Jew. Another anti-Zionist scholar and a traditional Orthodox Jew is Prof. Daniel Boyarin. Some of his theories about early Christianity and other subjects unrelated to Zionism are controversial though. His brother, Jonathan Boyarin, is also an Orthodox Jew and anti-Zionist professor, though his main fields of research are not related directly to Zionism. Charles Manekin, another Orthodox Jewish professor, sharply criticizes political Zionism under his pen name Jerry Haber, though he technically advocates so-called "cultural Zionism" (outright anti-Zionism by today's standards, free Palestine as a cultural, but not political center, of Judaism). All these people are actively teaching and can be contacted.

A very interesting and influential critic of Zionism was Prof. Yeshayahu Leibowitz. I personally can't stand his Salafi-like anti-esoteric rationalism though. Most of his major writings were translated into English.

 

These are examples of academic scholars who practice or practiced traditional Judaism. You can also find English interviews with religious scholars like anti-Zionist rabbis. For example, Seth Farber's book Radicals, Rabbis and Peacemakers contains a couple of them. There are also many books written on this topic by secular Jewish and non-Jewish researchers, usually socialists and communists of various types, but from Orthodox perspective, with all respect to the authors' good intentions, they sound more like "blah-blah-blah, Zionism is against Jewish values", without substantial traditional sources and religious scholarship. Examples include Judith Butler's recent book Parting Way: Jewishness and the Critique of Zionism, Marc Ellis' book Judaism Does Not Equal Israel: The Rebirth of the Jewish Prophetic (this guy's theology is not exactly in line with normative Judaism though).

 

But I think Rabkin's book is the most relevant for English readers. He also has interesting interviews and essays online.

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Because according to their Book and knowledge they knew Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. would appear in Medina. They were awaiting him s.a.w. as their redeemer but when they realized he s.a.w. was of Bani Ishmael and not of the Bani Israel they saddened and started to oppose the Prophet s.a.w.

Good share brother,

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1 hour ago, wmehar2 said:

The signature is J-L859.  We know this because only Hashim/Quraysh and Sayyids/Sharifs exist with that signature.

When was this determined?

I was under the impression that DNA testing for Syeds was still inconclusive.

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18 minutes ago, Akbar673 said:

When was this determined?

I was under the impression that DNA testing for Syeds was still inconclusive.

Autosomal DNA is inconclusive, and most likely not going to ever happen.  However Y-DNA it's most definitely reasonably conclusive at this stage, probably as of last year.

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Qurayishj1c3d/default.aspx

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Qurayishj1c3d/default.aspx?section=yresults

An STR model has been developed for Imam 'Ali bin Talib based on the results of those who provided their samples. 

The individual who is in charge of this project is a Shia', in case that mattered to you.  Also, the Hashemite king of Jordan, Abdullah, is the same signature as the individuals in this project.  My cousin happens to also know the man personally who conducted the King's DNA test.

The academic community on the DNA forums also agree that this is most likely the signature.  

The significant observation to be made, is that those who Test positive for J-L859, claim to be Qurasyh, Hashimite, or Sayyid and Adnan Tribes..  You would be hard pressed to find someone who is not claiming either of those lineages to be J-L859+, though I'm sure some exist for those who were adopted or left their clan to change their names and never knew.  This is the significant consistency that drives the claim.

The other Y-Haplogroup signatures  R1a, R1b, J2, Q, E, possess individuals who claim to be Quraysh/Hashemite or Sayyid, but there's too many individuals who are not Sayyid/Adnani/Qureshi that possess this signature.

When considering lineages of tribes, it would not be right to say just because someone has a different Y haplogroup than the majority (let's say such as R1a or E1b1b), or a different subclade branch of J1 Y-DNA, doesn't mean they aren't a member of that tribe, it would only mean people of a different paternal lineage/tribe broke their way in 2000 years + ago.   For example,  Banu Shaybah, the divinely appointed guardians of the Ka'bah have the Y haplogroup R1a, despite their being in the Quryash tribe from centuries/thousands of years.   But we already know R1a is dominant in Caucuasus, Europe, Central Asia etc. 

Considering context as well, divination with arrows was done in classical Arabian world where one did not know their lineage (Jahiliyya times).  Also it was quite common for Tribes to exile their own out of fear of an inner tribal conflict making repercussions.  So they would flee and join another tribe and take up their new name. 

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