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Muslims Join Isis To Escape Sexual Frustration

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​Young UK Muslims join ISIS to ‘escape sexual frustration’ - documentary

 

Sexual hunger and an uncomfortable environment might be the factors that push young UK Muslims to join Islamic State, a new British documentary suggests.

 

Deeya Khan, activist and Emmy Award-winning filmmaker, had her two-year investigation into the origin of growing Muslim extremism in Europe.

 

In her documentary “Exposure: Jihad” Khan explores why some UK Muslims choose to embrace extremism and step into the holy war in Syria and Iraq.

 

She thinks that often young Muslims living in the West feel angry and alienated, they face discrimination and have identity crises, while Islamic State is ready to accept them just as they are and gives them an opportunity to become someone.

 

In an interview to the Daily Beast Khan says that male immigrants from South Asia felt uncomfortable with open western sexuality. That, in return, sometimes led them to abuse their children or repress their sexual urges.

 

“Nine times out of 10, look to the dad and you’re gonna find he did something; beat them… I would blame the fathers, absolutely.” she said.

 

Khan interviewed a former Islamist, Alyas Karmani, who believes that the growing gap between two generations of Muslim families living in the West often pushes young Muslims into hostile environments. He explains that Muslim youngsters live in the same sexualized society as their non-Muslim peers, but they are usually told by their parents that sex before marriage is forbidden.

 

“There’s a real sense of hate that you have, that I can’t do that," he says in the documentary.

 

“And that’s why I find a greater sense of sexual dysfunction sometimes in Muslim communities.”

 

He then explains why sex is one of the main reasons Muslims turn to Islamic State, also known as ISIS/ISIL. According to Karmani, they just want girls and joining ISIS gives them the promise of a release for their sexual frustration.

 

“I’m there with my gun, which is more or less just a penis extension, out there. Look at me, I’m a mujahid now… I’m powerful now, I’m sexy now, girls are going to look at me, and there’re girls who would wanna become my bride now.” he says.

 

Likewise, Muslim girls often do not have the freedom to choose their future husbands. Khan believes that ISIS promotes an image of very good-looking men and that might be on purpose. Girls are in awe with this idealistic image of Muslim men trying to sacrifice their own lives for the suffering people of Syria.

 

She believes that the heroic part associated with jihadism combined with handsome images makes joining a kind of independent step for Muslim girls. They feel like they can make their own choice as they decide to leave and marry the ideal guy.

 

http://rt.com/uk/267577-uk-muslim-sexual-frustration/

 

 

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I'm reminded at this time of the moving face palm icon on skype (3 across, 4 down) - I think it sums the situation up perfectly.

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By Allah :

 

"She believes that the heroic part associated with jihadism combined with handsome images makes joining a kind of independent step for Muslim girls. They feel like they can make their own choice as they decide to leave and marry the ideal guy. "

 

We human beings at times, show how carnal, inconsiderate animals we are. Our animalistic sense over powers our human sense.

 

I'm not backbiting, i have no idea who the quote is attributed to.

Edited by Tawheed313

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I was thinking about this some time ago and brought it up for discussion with my Father who was a Mujahid in Afghanistan for over 20 years and he said it is a common tactic militant groups use to get recruits or to improve the morale of a group; He himself once did this as I will explain.

 

His men were not feeling very up to fighting and then he asked a friend of his to come to him with a fake report of how the Takfiris are locking up their women into this castle (the one my dad needed to take over) and along with them they were hoarding it with ammo, wealth and treasure and suddenly all of his men jump to fight and once they took the castle then they realized it was empty of women and treasure and only thing inside was a few old blankets.

 

The kurds also use women (as we saw on the news).

 

It is an old tactic basically, to promise from war what men desire. Why do you think the movies and films show all those parades soldiers get when returning home, where every woman just wants to kiss a soldier.

 

Also notice how even the young teens who joined ISIS were like super hot European white blondes and notice how every woman fighting Daesh or joining Daesh is like Hot, makes one think Daesh is a place full of Models in Hijabs.

 

And believe me, young men (especially Salafi) would run to join for sex.

Edited by Khalilallah

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Srsly?

He goes on to fight cuz he couldn't flirt with girls

But then he can enslave girls while fighting?

Would a man srsly join a fight to get women?

On a serious note:

Where are the handsome isis fighters?

 

It's not a coincidence that "rape" and "pillage" are often paired together in association. Sex has a considerable power dynamic.

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Qaim brother, we are talking about 2 options to escape sexual frustration:

Get it the easy way with any regular girl from local community

Travel around the world throwing behind you all worldly pleasures for the sake of slave woman or woman with hijab who ran out of her father house.

Not to mention that many of isis playboys were playboys before joining isis, they joined to get straight and repent from their old habits. A striking example is that Lebanese singer .

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Qaim brother, we are talking about 2 options to escape sexual frustration:

Get it the easy way with any regular girl from local community

Travel around the world throwing behind you all worldly pleasures for the sake of slave woman or woman with hijab who ran out of her father house.

Not to mention that many of isis playboys were playboys before joining isis, they joined to get straight and repent from their old habits. A striking example is that Lebanese singer .

The local girl is Haram

 

The girl living in ISIL is Halal (to them)

 

These people are faithful but they are misguided.

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Also, what the author doesn't realize is that a large number, maybe even the majority, of young muslim men and women, are already sexually active in some way. Some in the halal way and some in the haram way. As the saying goes, 'You can't hold back the ocean with a broom'. The only difference is that they hide it from their parents and community and take more precautions whereas their non muslim counterparts do not hide their activities. 

Edited by Abu Hadi

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The local girl is Haram

The girl living in ISIL is Halal (to them)

These people are faithful but they are misguided.

Tatwan is a Moroccan city that exported 1/3 of the Moroccan fighters to Iraq. Nearly all of them lived a very poor life, felt marginalized by their government and couldn't improve their economic status refardless of their efforts. Nearly all of them do not have higher education, some did not get even a high school diploma .

Many were hold from migrating to Europe for philosophical reasons .

One of these fighters who is still in contact with his homeland friend was a drug dealer then he was jàiled then he decided to get straight after leaving jail . He got married , he had son but he couldn't secure a halal job. He ended up with daish.

His story is typical for any Arab man at least. The true motivation isn't sex but social justice , something that western governments won't admit because it goes against their promotion of liberties.

Also, they will never cover the dawah in prisons or the dawah to the criminals .

The story started decades before the Arabic spring. You can read poems by Shia scholars in Lebanon against the social injustice, a famous poem is titled اين حقي

You can review the articles in alahram magazine, an Egyptian magazine who are active since a century.

The poem of Badr shakir alsayyab titled ( rain song). Etc.

They all show the frustration of Arabs , their learned before their uneducated men , about the leadership and it's performance both inside and outside.

There is corruption that is unstoppable . There are leaders with no religion or morals.

There is a general feeling of defeat on the cultural war against Islamic principles due to westernization and globalization.

Naked women ( women with immodest dress) , songs, casinos, prohibition of hijab, restrictions on mosques, abscence of Islamic political figure to fight for the Sunni religious rights , drugs and the widespread theft , dishonesty and fornication.

Arab world expirienced political parties , socialists thinking, democracy promotion and dictatorship. They all failed to inspire the Muslims and stand up for what they believe.

There was growing need for an Islamic rule. A rule that is not based on the rich intersts nor promote non Islamic laws. A rule under which a Muslim can live dignified and proud .

The westernized current Arabic regimes cannot afford that. They know that their people are getting impatient . America knows that Arabs are growing anti American feelings .

Someone evil enough and smart enough took the approtunity of this situation .

All these mujahideen are against Arab leaders and against western leaders. They are seeking social justice and better life style.

In early days of the Arab spring, isis sold itself as heaven with prosperous life, money and Islamic life style.

Many bought that. They didn't have anything to Loos. They are masters in trafficking of drugs and other things. The are masters in escaping the boarders and they had been charged with religious non sense through programs in prisons and non official mosques.

They don't join because Islam prohibits fornication, they join because Islamic societies are prohibiting halal marraige by requesting many materialistic things like tribe, pricy dowry, certificate etc etc.

they joined because it is said to them that migrating to Europe a land of sins is sin but then again the land of Islam is not less sinful .

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I agree with CM, lot of men in the muslim world must feel deeply humiliated,for the reasons CM explained, and this can turn into violent,criminal energy as it's the case with those young,desillusioned men who get seduced by the image of "coolness" which Isis is promoting very professionel and attractively.

Young ppl need rules and a system which makes them feel useful and appreciated,this is certainly not the case in our current system.

So they fall for the welcome-mentality and think they are somehow useful and actually not just somehow but on the path of God.They are not normal criminals or useless outcasts but have suddenly a nom du guerre,brides..in short they have a "life and a "duty".

Recently two girls from Germany went to Syria and the father of one of that girls committed suicide last weekend...it's so tragic.How desperate must he have been?

May Allah guide us and save the youth from falling into the trap of the sufiany army.

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here, but please don't join ISIS now that you saw these  :P

 

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So they rather marry a Daeshi who despite his looks, has no regard for human life than marry a handsome Shi'i who has regard for human life and fears his Lord?

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So they rather marry a Daeshi who despite his looks, has no regard for human life than marry a handsome Shi'i who has regard for human life and fears his Lord?

 

i think most of them are very shallow in their thinking and very naive + brainwashed. A couple of mistranslated ayat from quran out of context about killing will do the job .. then add some spicy hadiths from God knows who .. and the little girls will be on their way to 'jihad'land to find their future husband

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Sounds like a load of nonsense to me, and I'm sure many cases could be brought as counter-examples. The problem secularists have with trying to understand this kind of phenomena is that they can't see beyond secular motives. They always assume everything is about money, sex, boredom, etc. While all these things may be contributing factors, it is ridiculous to not even mention the religious factors at play here. I mean, seriously. Someone gets beaten by their dad, and wants some sexual release, so they travel half-way round the world to fight for a death cult? Yeah, that seems likely...

 

What is your problem dude?  Why do you continuously keep painting all the secularist together?  There are countless so called 'secularist' who stand by religious minorities and working people in an attempt to counter the mainstream media narrative.  Don't scream foul when the other side groups muslims together, it is hypocritical.

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i think most of them are very shallow in their thinking and very naive + brainwashed. A couple of mistranslated ayat from quran out of context about killing will do the job .. then add some spicy hadiths from God knows who .. and the little girls will be on their way to 'jihad'land to find their future husband

Yeah, I agree with you, they must be really, really naive to think that this has no repurcussions on their family. Plus, that story about the father in Germany committing suicide because his daughter went to be with these "heroes" of the so-called "caliphate" speak volumes to me about the utter recklessness of these simple-minded women. I find it extremely hard to believe anyone truly thinks ISIS' actions are justifiable, they can try and try but their hearts and the Qur'an prove them wrong. If any of them say that they can justify are merely ostriches with guns, burying their heads in the sand.

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Ali_Hussain: I personally think that the misogynist West enjoys this destruction of decent women's lives because they fantasize it hastens the return of their Santa-Claus-in-coloured-glass. And then hypocritically adulate that Paki girl shot by nutcases.

 

I only watched part of your posted video because we use to break-up sick stuff in the Army. There were several post-crime suicides back then, too. The evilgelical leadership loves this "pre-wrapture" sick stuff.

 

As for the documentarian's theme:  :lol: scream  ; Wa- :shaytan: promoted cwap.

 

 

post script:

Remember Obomb'em attended that hate-spewing preacher's sermons for 23/24 years?  I conclude that O' hates these women.

Edited by hasanhh

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Not surprised at all. This is relevant: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235026547-muslim-complexes-regarding-marraige-are-insane/#entry2752634


The local girl is Haram

 

The girl living in ISIL is Halal (to them)

 

These people are faithful but they are misguided.

 

It's not even that. A lot of the Western jihadis are just too socially awkward or marginalized to be able to get "the local girl" or a Muslim girl in his community. That's why they are attracted to the most macabre form of "Islam."

 

It's literally easier to rape some poor villager girl than it is to date in a western style for some of them.

 

And a lot of the western girls who went to ISIS were lured by the flashy marketing the group does and all young girls love "bad boys" so this is the Islamic form of that.

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The muslim conquests in the 7th century yielded a great number of slaves for the conquerors ( both sexes) so judging by their logic of returning to the times of Sahaba , isis is being true to its roots.

Problem is that the present day politically correct yet religious muslims are not prepared to confront the history of their ancestors which did involve violent conquest, enslavement and plunder.That being said BY THE STANDARD OF day in 7th century muslim conquests were far more humane and relatively bloodless than say the persian-Byzantine wars or the carnage of charmalegne /William the [Edited Out] in Europe.However when compared to today's standards of human rights geneva conventions etc they appear "barbaric ".

Edited by Panzerwaffe

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Ali_Hussain: I personally think that the misogynist West enjoys this destruction of decent women's lives because they fantasize it hastens the return of their Santa-Claus-in-coloured-glass. And then hypocritically adulate that Paki girl shot by nutcases.

 

I only watched part of your posted video because we use to break-up sick stuff in the Army. There were several post-crime suicides back then, too. The evilgelical leadership loves this "pre-wrapture" sick stuff.

 

As for the documentarian's theme:  :lol: scream  ; Wa- :shaytan: promoted cwap.

 

 

post script:

Remember Obomb'em attended that hate-spewing preacher's sermons for 23/24 years?  I conclude that O' hates these women.

Sir, it's highly offensive of you to refer to Lord Jesus as Santa Claus in coloured glass. He is revered by billions of the world's People of the Book, and by Muslims who recognise Him as a prophet and highly significant figure in Islam!!!

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^returning to the time of Sahaba means returning to the time of Prophet s.a.w and His house hold ! Its known as war booty and captives which Prophet s.aw used to distribute amoung them himselves ! Which you betrayers, stabbers cant understand. Topic title itself is manifesting "muslims joining isil....."

by this OP declared all shiites non muslims ! And all isil members as muslims. Astaqfirullah.

Allah hu Akbar !!!

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