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“There were none of my fore fathers except that the allegiance of the oppressive rulers of their times was in their necks”. (i.e. the previous Imams were forced to pay allegiance).
“As for deriving benefit from me in my occultation is like deriving benefit from the sun when it hides behind the clouds”.
(Bihar, V.53, p 181)
 

 

 

 

I didn't understand this point, Can someone please explain this quotation from Imam, regarding deriving benefit in his occultation. 

 

Ya Ali 

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I didn't understand this point, Can someone please explain this quotation from Imam, regarding deriving benefit in his occultation. 

 

Ya Ali 

Salam, what this part means, is that see the sun, sometimes we can not see the sun but it has benefits from it hiding. I.e. rain, warming etc. Same concept it with imam mahdi a.s, although we can not see him, there are benefits even in that i.e. we have time to prepare and avoid sins, him a.s helping without us seeing him. and  When the sun comes out, we also gain alot of benefits from that i.e. nice heat, other internal benefits. Same with Imam mahdi a.s, when he gets the go sign from Allah, he will reveal himself and their will be no fighting, peace everywhere etc...

 

Hope that kinda helps brother.

 

W.Salam

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I don't see how we benefit by Our beloved Imam been in occultation, Our Imam is our guide, our leader and the most knowledgable of our time, yet we don't have contact with him. 

We all may not have contact with, but some people are guided by him, and they in turn guide others and trickle down the light they been given through the Imam, and those people trickled that guidance, help guide others as well.

 

 

We read from Tabatabai 

The preceptors are also of two types: General and special. The general preceptor is he who is not responsible for guiding any particular individual. People seek his guidance considering him to be a learned and experienced man. The Qur'an says: Ask those who know if you do not know. Such preceptors can be helpful only in the beginning of spiritual journey. When the spiritual traveler begins to view the manifestations of the glory of essence and attributes of Allah, he no longer needs to have a general preceptor. The special preceptor is he about whom a divine ordinance exists to the effect that he has been assigned the job of guidance. This position is held only by the Holy Prophet and his rightful successors. Their guidance and company are essential and indispensable not only at every stage of spiritual journey, but even after the spiritual traveler has reached his destination. The nature of this company is esoteric not physical for the real nature of the Imam is that station of his luminosity, the authority of which extends to everyone and everything in the world. Although Imams body is also superior to the body of everyone else, yet the source of his authority over the universe is not his body. To explain this point it may be mentioned that whatever happens in this world, its source is the names and attributes of Allah, and the same Divine names and attributes are the essence of the Imam also. That is why the Imams have said: "Allah is known through us and he is worshipped through us." Therefore, it may rightly be said that whatever stages the spiritual traveler traverses, he covers them in the light of the Imam, and every position to which he advances, that position is controlled by the Imam. Throughout his journey the spiritual traveler enjoys the company of the Imam and remains associated with him. Even after reaching his destination, he needs the company of the Imam, for it is the Imam who teaches him the rules that are to be observed in the World of Divinity. Therefore, Imam's company is essential at every stage of spiritual journey. 

We also read from Tabatabai

"'There is no doubt about the existence of a path of Walayat by treading on which man traverses the stages of esoteric perfection and reaches the stage of proximity to Allah. The existence of the outer religious trappings, without an inner reality, is unimaginable. The creative ability or source which has provided for religious teachings of practical, ethical and social nature and has preached them, must have provided for the inner reality also, which is the soul of the outer religious phenomena.

The arguments, which prove the existence of Prophethood and the continuity of the religious laws, also prove the existence and continuity of the system of Walayat. How can it be imagined that the tenets and laws should have a real existence, but the inner reality should not exist or the contact of the human world with it should be severed? The chief holder of Walayat, who maintains this contact, has been called Imam by the Qur'an, as is borne out by this verse. 

"When his Lord tested Ibrahim with certain commands and he fulplled them. He said: Surely I am appointing you an Imam of man" (al-Baqarah, 2: 124)

The Imam is a person who is selected by Allah to be the leader of the path of Walayat. It is he who holds the reins of esoteric Walayat in his hands. He is the centre of the rays of Walayat which reflect on the hearts of the people". 

We read from Mutahari :

According to the Shi'ah belief in every age there has been a perfect man having a supernatural influence over the world and a sort of control on the hearts and the souls of men and on this account he is called Hujjat. 

We read from Imam Khomeini 

The faithful (mu'minin), since they are followers of the Perfect Man and walk in his footsteps, they journey by the light of his guidance and the lamp of his knowledge (ma'rifah) in submission to the sacred being of the Perfect Man. They don't take any step by themselves and do not allow their intellect to meddle with the character of the spiritual journey towards Allah. For this reason, their path is also straight, and in the company of the Perfect Man their fufilment (wusal) is subordinate to the fulfilment of the Perfect Man, provided that they protect their clear hearts from the workings of the devils, the ego, and egoism, and submit themselves totally in the journey to the Perfect Man and the station of ultimate prophecy.

And we read from him in Adab:

Be aware that this spiritual journey and faithful ascension cannot be made with this broken leg, ruptured reins, blind eyes and lightless heart: " And whomever Allah has not given light, for him there is no light ". [198a] Therefore, in setting off upon this spiritual road and ascending to this gnostic mi'raj, it is a must to adhere to the spiritual state of the guides along the ways of knowledge [ma'rifat] and the lights [anwar] of the road of guidance, who are the devotees and the attainers to Allah. If anybody tries, depending on his selfishness and without clinging to their guardianship, to tread upon this road, his journey will be to Satan and to the pit (of hell) [hawiyah]. Scientifically speaking, to connect between the novel [hadith] and the Eternal [qadim], the changing and the Unchanging, there should be an intermediate, a connector, with the characteristic of being unchanging and changing, eternal and novel. Without such an intermediate, the Emanation of the Eternal and the Unchanging would not pass to the changing and the novel in the divine law, and the universal and existential connection would not take place. As regards the connector between these two, the scientific opinions of the experts in the evidential knowledge ['ulum-i burhani] are diverse, as the gnostic taste is different, to give the details of which is out of the scope of these papers. In the gnositc taste, the connector is the Sacred Emanation [faid-i muqaddas], the Expansive Existence [wujud-i munbasit], which has the position [maqam] of the big isthmus [barzakhiyat-i kubra] and the great intermediate [wasatiyat-i 'uzma], and it is the very position of the spirituality and the guardianship of the Seal of the Prophets, which is united with the position the Ali's General Guardianship [wilayat-I mutlaqa-I alawiyah]. The relevant details are stated in the Misbahul Hidayah by the writer. [199] Similarly, in the ascending spiritual connection - which is the opposite of the descending existential connection, or in other words, it is "the contraction of existence" [qabd-i wujud] and returning to the Beginning there is need for an intermediate, without which it does not take place, and the connection of the imperfect and the chained hearts, and of the limited descending spirits, with the Complete, Super Complete and the Absolute from all aspects, is not implemented without the spiritual intermediates and the invisible connectors.

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SaIam brother,

 

As far as I am aware, the meaning of that hadith is that, similar to how the sun still provides life to the earth and all its inhabitants even on cloudy days when you don't directly see the sun, the lmam provides life and benefit to the inhabitants of the earth even though he is concealed behind a curtain of occultation. If the sun was to disappear for 8 minutes or more, all life on earth would cease to exist instantly. Similarly, if the lmam (a.s) ceased to be on the earth for even an instant, The Creator (a.j) would not allow the earth to continue to exist for even a single second more due to all the wrong doing etc.

 

Apart from this very important point, while we don't see the lmam (a.s), he sees us, watches us, and more importantly, constantly prays for us and our forgiveness for all the evil we 'secretly' get up to. And don't doubt for a second that if it wasn't for this, and his secret pleading with our Lord and Creator to forgive and ignore our wrongdoing, we may have all met with the Creator's wrath a long time ago and not been allowed respite to change our ways. In many instances, he directly (yet secretly) influences our lives while we don't even know it. Various events/people/circumstances carefully planned by Shaitan to deceive us and send us far far astray are deflected by the kind lmam (a.s) either through his prayers or by his direct intervention.

 

So, afaik, the meaning of the hadith is that: although we can't see the lmam, we still benefit from his presence on the earth in a huge way, just like the earth still benefits from the warmth of the sun even on days when it is cloudy and the sun is not visible, but still provides its warmth.

 

Madzi

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I didn't understand this point, Can someone please explain this quotation from Imam, regarding deriving benefit in his occultation. 

 

Ya Ali 

salam,

search this book=The Sun behind the Clouds - Allamah Majlisi

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SaIam brother,

 

 If the sun was to disappear for 8 minutes or more, all life on earth would cease to exist instantly. Similarly, if the lmam (a.s) ceased to be on the earth for even an instant, The Creator (a.j) would not allow the earth to continue to exist for even a single second more due to all the wrong doing etc.

 

 

Madzi

 

 

Lol If the sun was to disappear, we wouldn't notice it because it takes light rays from sun to reach earth in around 8 mins and 17 seconds. Even if the sun were to disappear, the earth wouldn't just disappear but rather it will loss its rotational path and will start flying in a straight path to the darkness of space. Lol Astronomy here

 

But I did get, what you said. May Allah, the most sublime give you good rewards

 

Ya Ali  

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Lol If the sun was to disappear, we wouldn't notice it because it takes light rays from sun to reach earth in around 8 mins and 17 seconds. Even if the sun were to disappear, the earth wouldn't just disappear but rather it will loss its rotational path and will start flying in a straight path to the darkness of space. Lol Astronomy here

 

 

S/A

 

LOL! :) Getting very technical here hey? But read what I said carefully: "If the sun was to disappear for 8 minutes or more, all life on earth would cease to exist instantly."

 

Yes the earth would continue to exist, but life would end immediately because of a deep freeze. But I actually hadn't thought of the fact that, even though light takes >8mins to reach earth (meaning that if the sun ceased to exist, we wouldn't notice for at least that amount of time), the fact that the earth would break orbit would probably mean that all life would probably end long before 8 minutes, due to a distancing from the light source, or maybe a collision etc... interesting... Well done :)

 

Take care,

Madzi

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S/A

 

LOL! :) Getting very technical here hey? But read what I said carefully: "If the sun was to disappear for 8 minutes or more, all life on earth would cease to exist instantly."

 

not Instantly but rather gradually. 

 

I gotta there again lol

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I wish this website had the original Arabic text. 

Maxim of Imam Mahdi (a.t.f.s.)

 

Maxim No. 1

On His Own Description

I am Mahdi; I am Qaem (the upriser); I am the one who will establish justice on the earth as it has been filled with injustice.

 

Maxim No. 2

On His Own Description

I am the one supported by God on earth; I am the one who shall take revenge on His enemies.

 

Maxim No. 3

On the Description of God's Proofs

God has kept them away from sins, untouched by flaws, purified of corruption and immune to mistakes. God has designated them as the guardians of His Knowledge, trustees of His Wisdom, confidant of His Secrets and supported them with logic.

 

Maxim No. 4

On the Fact that God Is With Them

God is with us and His Being makes us free from want. Truth is with us and we do not fear if the people were to turn their back on us.

 

Maxim No. 5

On Their Righteousness

And they should know that truth is with us and near us, and those who claim the same are dishonest. Except for the misled and those who lead others astray, no one makes such a claim other than us.

 

Maxim No. 6

On Their Being God's Creation

We are the Lord's Creation and others were later remade in our image.

 

Maxim No. 7

On Their Hearts Being the Focus of God's Will

Our hearts bear God's Will. When He Wills, we also will the same.

 

Maxim No. 8

On Affairs Entrusted to Them

Fear God, surrender to us and leave the affairs to us. It is for us to take you away from the spring satiated, as you were taken to the spring by us and do not pursue that which have been concealed from you.

 

Maxim No. 9

On Not Going Astray

Do not go astray from the right path and strengthen your move on this path based on established traditions by befriending us.

 

Maxim No. 10

On Seeking Enlightenment From Others

Seeking enlightenment from other than the prophet's Household (AS) is akin to denying us.

 

Maxim No. 11

On Those Who Do Injustice to Imam Mahdi (AS)

Those who do injustice to me are among the oppressors and subject to God's Curse, because the Almighty says: "Verily God's curse is upon oppressors."

 

Maxim No. 12

On Those Disliked by Imam Mahdi (AS)

The Lord, His angels, prophets and saints dislike those who are disliked by me.

 

Maxim No. 13

On Those Who Deny Imam Mahdi (AS)

There is no kinship between God and others, and those who deny me are not with me.

 

Maxim No. 14

On Those Who Hurt Imam Mahdi (AS)

Only the ignorant and unwise Shiites whose piety is weaker than the wings of a fly hurt me.

 

Maxim No. 15

On Those who Seize His Belongings

A fire blazes in the hearts of those who unjustly confiscate our belongings and will soon be thrown by their face into that fire.

 

Maxim No. 16

On Reasons for Taking Khums

I will not accept your offers but only if you become pure.

 

Maxim No. 17

On the Reason Behind His Occultation

Neither my forefathers swore allegiance to the seditious, nor will I at the time of my reappearance.

 

Maxim No. 18

On the Benefit of His Occultation

Benefiting from me during my occultation is like benefiting from the sun when it is covered in cloud.

 

Maxim No. 19

On Benefiting From Imam Mahdi (AS) During Occultation

I provide the people on the earth with safety and security just as the stars do for those in heavens.

 

Maxim No. 20

On Benefiting From Imam Mahdi (AS) During Occultation

The Lord, through me, keeps misfortunes away from my household and my Shiite followers.

 

Maxim No. 21

On Referring to Narrators of Traditions in His Occultation

In case of new events, refer to narrators of my traditions because they are my proof to you as I am the sign of the Lord's proof to them.

 

Maxim No. 22

On Those Who Claim to Have Seen Imam Mahdi (AS)

Those who claim to have seen me before the appearance of Sufyani and the call from the sky are liars and accusers.

 

Maxim No. 23

On Being Aware of Shiite Followers

I am aware of your situation and nothing remains hidden from me.

 

Maxim No. 24

On Giving Considerations to His Shiite Followers

I have not neglected or forgotten you because if so, you would have been long plagued by endless misfortunes and destroyed by your enemies.

 

Maxim No. 25

On Reappearance Depending on God’s Will

My reappearance depends on the Lord’s Will and this will take place after a long time, darkening of hearts and prevalence of injustice on the earth.

 

Maxim No. 26

On Not Determining the Time of Reappearance

My reappearance depends on the Lord's Will and those who falsely determine a time are liars.

 

Maxim No. 27

On Reappearance Marking the Prevalence of Truth

Upon the Lord's permission, truth will prevail and falsehood will be defeated.

 

Maxim No. 28

On Leaving the Time of Reappearance to the Lord

Do not ask of things that do not benefit you and do not trouble yourself to find something that has not been asked of you.

 

Maxim No. 29

On Duties of Muslims in the Era of Occultation

All of you should try to befriend us and keep away from things disliked and rejected by us, for our order will come without notice when there is no time for repentance and regret will not save you from our retribution.

 

Maxim No. 30

On the Reason for His Delayed Reappearance

If my Shiite followers--may god reward them for their obedience--were to unite to fulfill their pledge, our meeting with them would not have been delayed and they would have met me sooner--a meeting based on their awareness and sincerity toward us.

 

Maxim No. 31

On the Reason for Being Deprived of Meeting Him

Nothing keeps us away from them, except acts disliked and disapproved by me.

 

Maxim No. 32

On Praying for His Reappearance

Pray for my reappearance, as their victory depends on it.

 

Maxim No. 33

On Keeping Away From Sins

The end result--with the admirable intervention of the Lord--will be auspicious as long as Shiites keep away from sins.

 

Maxim No. 34

On the Earth Being Full of Divine Signs

Verily the earth will not remain devoid of divine signs, whether evident or concealed.

 

Maxim No. 35

On the Victory of Truth Over Falsehood

God is averse to keeping the truth incomplete and not destroying falsehood.

 

Maxim No. 36

On the Lord's Irrepressible Power

The Lord's power cannot be overwhelmed, His Will is irrepressible and nothing will hinder His Victory.

 

Maxim No. 37

On Seeking Refuge in God

I take refuge in God from blindness after illumination, from deviation after guidance and from destructive conduct and annihilating seditions.

 

Maxim No. 38

On the Purposefulness of Creation

Verily God has not created mankind in vain and did not left them to wander aimlessly.

 

Maxim No. 39

On Those Who Appeal for Guidance

If you are in search of guidance you shall be guided, and if you seek you shall find.

 

Maxim No. 40

On the Virtues of Prayers

Nothing disgraces Satan like prayers, so pray and disgrace Satan.

http://www.duas.org/maximofmahdi.htm

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