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Nahi 'anil Munkar And Facebook

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(bismillah)

 

Social media makes it all too easy to see other people's religious shortcomings. It's on public display and it's right in your face. For example when our Muslim sisters post glamour shots of themselves in bright glittery makeup, or post pictures of themselves making suggestive faces/ poses. Or when we see our Muslim brothers making flirtatious comments on posts and pictures, or having conversations on full display that seem a little too comfortable with girls. Or our Muslim siblings posting Music videos with horrible lyrics or promoting licentious TV shows...

 

I'm not trying to be nitpicky with these types of things, but when I see stuff like this it makes me uncomfortable. And something that makes me even more uncomfortable is seeing numerous people 'like' questionable things like this and encourage them. “You look so beautiful mashaAllah!” and are mum about the obvious fact that a picture like that doesn't belong on facebook for all of her guy friends to ogle at. These kinds of things have a snowball effect. If a young girl sees that people give applause and comments to sexy pictures, she is going to want to post them too. Social media gives green lights.

 

The main point is, nahi 'anil munkar is a tenet of Islam. If it wasn't, I wouldn't care what people put on facebook or social media. So I wonder, what is our duty in these matters? I feel like this is an especially important matter when these people are getting a showering of support and encouragement when they shouldn't be.

 

Is it enough to just withhold 'likes' and support? That seems too passive aggressive, but that is my current method.

 

If we say something, we will appear 'holier-than-thou' and extremely petty.

 

Or am I simply making an issue out of nothing? Like, “dragonfly, get a life...”

 

I just don't want to be a part of a bigger problem, or be silent when it was my duty not to be.

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Salaamun alaykum

 

If the conditions exist for Nahi an al Munkar, then it is an obligation upon all; if they do not perform it, all have sinned (i.e. it is waajibun kifaai). Sometimes, the sisters and brothers may not be aware of the Islamic ruling (e.g. on wearing makeup). So make them knowledgeable in this firstly if they do not have knowledge of divine obligations of hijaab and social interaction (you must make them knowledgeable in this matter).

 

Amr bil maroof and nahi an al munkar becomes waajib when certain conditions are fulfilled:

 

http://www.islamic-laws.com/AmrBilMaroof.htm

 

You should also bear in mind those hadiths which are mentioned on the link that I posted.

 

Here, I will also copy in a chapter from Misbahul Sharia, attributed to Imam Jafar as Sadiq (as):

 

http://www.al-islam.org/lantern-of-the-path-imam-jafar-sadiq/enjoining-what-good-and-forbidding-what-evil

 

 

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Whoever has not thrown off his anxieties, been purified of the evils of his self and its appetites, defeated Satan, and entered under the guardianship of Allah and the security of His protection, cannot properly enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil; and since he has not attained these aforementioned qualities, whatever affair he tackles in attempting to enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil will be a proof against him, and people will not benefit from it.
 

 

أَتَأْمُرُونَ النَّاسَ بِالْبِرِّ وَتَنسَوْنَ أَنفُسَكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ تَتْلُونَ الْكِتَابَ أَفَلاَ تَعْقِلُونَ

 

Allah said, What! Do you enjoin men to be good and neglect your own souls? (2:44)

 
Anyone who does that is called upon thus: Oh- traitor! Do you demand from My creation that which you have rejected for yourself and have slackened the reins [in this regard] upon yourself?
 
It is related that Tha'labah al-Asadi asked the Messenger of Allah about this verse:

 

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ عَلَيْكُمْ أَنفُسَكُمْ لاَ يَضُرُّكُم مَّن ضَلَّ إِذَا اهْتَدَيْتُمْ 
O you who believe! Take care of your souls; he who errs cannot hurt you when you are on the right way. (5:105)
 
The Messenger of Allah said, 'Enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, and be forbearing in whatever afflicts you, until such time when you see meanness obeyed and passions followed, and when everyone will have conceit about their own opinion, then you should concern yourself only with yourself, and ignore the affairs of the common people.'
 
A person who enjoins what is good needs to be knowledgeable about what is permissible and what is forbidden; he must be free from his personal inclinations regarding what he enjoins and forbids, give good counsel to people, be merciful and compassionate to them, and call them with gentleness in a very clear manner, while recognizing their different characters so that he can put each in his proper place.
 
He must see the intrigues of the self and the machinations of Satan. He must be patient in whatever befalls him, and must not seek compensation from people for that which he instructs them in, nor complain about them. He should not make use of vehemence or passion. He should not become angry for his own sake. He should make his intention purely for Allah, and seek His help and desire Him. But if people oppose him and are harsh to him, he must be patient; and if they agree with him and accept his verdict, he must be thankful, entrusting his affair to Allah and looking to his own faults.

 

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In the above chapter, I emboldened one particular phrase: while recognizing their different characters so that he can put each in his proper place

 

The duty of N.A.M. is not necessarily the same for different people: e.g. it would use different methods and mannerisms among parents, siblings, strangers etc. But as long as the conditions are fulfilled as in the islamic-laws.com link, then you have to act.

 

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May Allah make us among those who enjoin the good and forbid the evil

 

 

 

With Duas

 

 

Silasun

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Salaamun alaykum

 

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With Duas

 

 

Silasun

 

Wa alaikum salam,

 

Thank you, lots of good information here to ponder over. The biggest question to ask oneself is, will my efforts have any effect at all, and will that effect be positive or negative?? Our culture promotes the idea that if you say anything you are 'judging' people and you should not 'judge' people because everyone should be able to do exactly what they want. 

 

And yes of course it depends on who is doing the deed. Members of my family and my close friends who I feel more obligated to are definitely my priorities.

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Salam, 

 

One of the preconditions for amr bil maroof wa nahiy al munkhar is that there is a good chance that this person will listen to you or care what you say.For most 'facebook friends' this doesn't apply. You have no idea even who this person is, and if you don't care what they say about you or you would not take their advice if they gave it to you, this is usually mutal, meaning they wouldn't care what you say or take your advice. So you are wasting your time and energy that Allah(s.w.a) gave you that you could spend on other things like earning a living, helping others, or improving your deen. 

 

If someone who is doing unislamic things like posting suggestive pictures, then get them off your page so you don't spread / promote what they are doing. That is the extent of your responsibility, in most cases. The only exception would be if you know the person in real life and you know or think there is a good possibility that what you say may have a positive effect on them, or if it is someone you don't know but they actually ask you for advice.

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How would you know what -that muslim gals/boys are posting selfies or inappropriate poses? - Only if they were on your friends list.

 

If they are not, then how are you noticing them and paying attention to details that are irrelevant to you?.

 

Maybe, quit FB and you wont notice such nonsense. Could be a start to what you proposed.

 

Then again people need friends......

 

To many times people complain of such issues, but are the first ones to sit, stare and do an analysis of such garbage. I doubt it has to do with something according to, ohh it just came on my feed and I was so shocked, I admired her beauty for 10minutes, then the senses came back, I decided this cannot be!!....

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Salam, 

 

One of the preconditions for amr bil maroof wa nahiy al munkhar is that there is a good chance that this person will listen to you or care what you say.For most 'facebook friends' this doesn't apply. You have no idea even who this person is, and if you don't care what they say about you or you would not take their advice if they gave it to you, this is usually mutal, meaning they wouldn't care what you say or take your advice. So you are wasting your time and energy that Allah(s.w.a) gave you that you could spend on other things like earning a living, helping others, or improving your deen. 

 

If someone who is doing unislamic things like posting suggestive pictures, then get them off your page so you don't spread / promote what they are doing. That is the extent of your responsibility, in most cases. The only exception would be if you know the person in real life and you know or think there is a good possibility that what you say may have a positive effect on them, or if it is someone you don't know but they actually ask you for advice.

 

Wasalam. Yes you are right, it doesn't apply to most people that would be on a person't friends list. But I guess the reason I ask is because most of my facebook friends are actually my family members (cousins, nieces, nephews) or friends I know in real life, so it worries me when I see such things. I don't have many 'random' facebook friends. Thanks for the reply though :)

 

 

Maybe one of the best things we can do is propagate the truth about this matter on a wider scale. E.g. write articles, give lectures & make videos.

 

That's a really good idea, because this does seem to be a widespread problem. And promoting articles and such that address this might have a better impact because that person will not feel directly targeted if they read the article/ listen to a lecture, and they are able to become aware of the issue and hopefully choose to be more careful on their own. Thank you!

 

 

How would you know what -that muslim gals/boys are posting selfies or inappropriate poses? - Only if they were on your friends list.

 

If they are not, then how are you noticing them and paying attention to details that are irrelevant to you?.

 

Maybe, quit FB and you wont notice such nonsense. Could be a start to what you proposed.

 

Then again people need friends......

 

To many times people complain of such issues, but are the first ones to sit, stare and do an analysis of such garbage. I doubt it has to do with something according to, ohh it just came on my feed and I was so shocked, I admired her beauty for 10minutes, then the senses came back, I decided this cannot be!!....

 

I'm not really sure what you mean....

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