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Is The 12Th Imam A.s About To Reappear Now?

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So you indirectly saying one man was able to hold whole muslim world? I mean he alone was reason for everything in this world? nauzobillah


Yes. If I were a nasibi or a muqasir I would start looking for a hiding place at the south pole or another planet about now...

why?

 

so one one man was a threat for whole shia world? and whole shia world was waiting for his death to attack? really?

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(BISMILLAH)

 

(Salam)

 

This is a very popular misconception and we should really work on educating ourselves on exactly how these signs affect the Imam's Reappearance.

 

First of all, even if a Hadith mentions that one of the signs is the death of King Abdullah, you don't know which Abdullah the Hadith is talking about. There have been other Abdullahs who were kings before and I am sure there will be after this one. Another example is the destruction of, I believe, Baghdad. It is considered one of the major signs but that city has been destroyed four times already (I heard all this in a lecture a long time ago so I might be wrong about the name of the city).

 

Also, just because these signs are found in our books doesn't mean that they all have to pass. It is quite possible that none of these signs occur and the Imam appears tomorrow and also that all the signs are fulfilled but the Imams doesn't come. They are not definitive and should not be treated as such.

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Also, just because these signs are found in our books doesn't mean that they all have to pass. It is quite possible that none of these signs occur and the Imam appears tomorrow and also that all the signs are fulfilled but the Imams doesn't come. They are not definitive and should not be treated as such.

Salam :)

About the king: Well, I guess, most of us believe him to be the Abdullah who's mentioned in those hadiths because of his predessor? But other then that, I fully agree with you. Sure, we should be optimistic and all, but we shouldn't exaggerate it. We have many signs about the appearance of our Imam, yet not all of these signs will come true (as I have heard and read on numerous occasions).

I mean, it's also said that if all the Shia would pray sincerely for their Imam to come, he would come immediately. So, apparently, we still have a long way to go.

The Imam will come when Allah wills it. And that will be if the Shia of the Imam are ready- so, firstly, we should start self-reflection. What exactly are we doing in preparation of our Imam? Just today, I listened to a programme on Hidayat TV and a man raised quite good points: If we expect guests at our home, we do a lot- clean the house, cook, wait impatiently for them to arrive. These are simple human beings. But what are we doing for the Imam of our time? Waiting that he appears?

I know that it's not possible for everyone to do actively something like those fighting in Iraq and Syria are doing - and neither do I know what we should do. Maybe everyone has to figure out for him/herself what best they can do for Imam Mahdi (actively/passively). But somewhere, we should start, shouldn't we? Because, how can the Imam arrive, if his people aren't ready?

And if this Hadith is really true - well, we will see it, won't we? Patience ;)

Wa salam.

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Salam all,

 

On the one hand:

I once read a book by Ali Al-Kurani entitled "3asir Al-Dhuhoor" in which the hadith mentioned two AbdAllah kings in Arabia and youth leaders everywhere, and he thinks (and I hope he is true too) that the other king is of Jordan.

Anyone can get us that hadith please?

No mention of animal name (Faha) as far as I remember.

 

On the other hand:

I believe many hadiths are designed such that to protect the Imam (Qaraba Allah farajahoo al-shareef)

 

Allah swt says in Quran 16:77

وَلِلَّهِ غَيْبُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ ۚ وَمَآ أَمْرُ ٱلسَّاعَةِ إِلَّا كَلَمْحِ ٱلْبَصَرِ أَوْ هُوَ أَقْرَبُ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍۢ قَدِيرٌۭ

"To Allah belongs the Unseen of the heavens and the earth. The matter of the Hour is just like the twinkling of an eye, or [even] nearer. Indeed Allah has power over all things."

 

The word "nearer" means it can come at anytime, not "faster" which would mean it will last very short time.

 

BUT

 

Our Prophet (pbuh+f) assures us that if there were only one hour (moment) left in this world, Allah swt will extend it to such length to accommodate the arrival of our Imam (qAfs) and establish Peace and Justice on Earth.

 

SO

 

The Hour in the above aya (which can come at the blink of an eye or nearer still, is (I HOPE) the Hour of the Rise of the Imam (as), not Judgment Day.

 

Any thought?

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(bismillah)

 

(salam)

 

This is a very popular misconception and we should really work on educating ourselves on exactly how these signs affect the Imam's Reappearance.

 

First of all, even if a Hadith mentions that one of the signs is the death of King Abdullah, you don't know which Abdullah the Hadith is talking about. There have been other Abdullahs who were kings before and I am sure there will be after this one. Another example is the destruction of, I believe, Baghdad. It is considered one of the major signs but that city has been destroyed four times already (I heard all this in a lecture a long time ago so I might be wrong about the name of the city).

 

Also, just because these signs are found in our books doesn't mean that they all have to pass. It is quite possible that none of these signs occur and the Imam appears tomorrow and also that all the signs are fulfilled but the Imams doesn't come. They are not definitive and should not be treated as such.

 

 

I have never heard that one of the signs is the destruction of Baghdad.

 

Nevertheless, you're right that we can't know if it's this Abdullah or some other.

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I have never heard that one of the signs is the destruction of Baghdad.

 

Nevertheless, you're right that we can't know if it's this Abdullah or some other.

 

As I mentioned in the post, I had heard this in a lecture a long time ago. I don't exactly remember the city but I do remember the lecturer pointing out how that particular city had been attacked and ransacked numerous times in history.

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its very easy to verify the hadeeth if its saheeh, if the new ruler rules for more than a year then obviously the hadeeth isn't about this king abdullah or its fabricated.

 

 

time will tell, 365 days - 1 and counting....

 

My thoughts are it's fabricated, and sheep are propagating it. Can anyone find it in a classical source ? If not that, can anyone even verify it?

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We will know one way or another wont we? Like i said 365- 1 day and counting

 

If i am Alive, i can't wait for that day. We will then see whether or not these hadiths are actually true or not - although people will then claim King Abdullah wasn't the man who was meant for this prophecy, and people who celebreted his death by accusing him of being that man will be quite embarrased.

 

In my view, if it's not saheeh or  reliable at all, it's useless to me, unless authenticated already by a reliable source.

 

Sunni's and Shia's have many hadiths which i garuentee you are either misheard or forged. This itself is a fact.

 

I don't know if this paticular hadith is forged, but no-one is giving any grading. I'll wait for the grading.

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Bismillah.

 

Salaam.

 

The reappearance of the Imam of Time can be investigated around four focal points:

 

First: The signs for his coming are categorized into different groups, one of them being their classification into “certain” and “uncertain” signs: According to some hadiths, five signs are considered “certain” which we will mention them cursorily:[1]

 

Abu Hamzah Thumali says: “I told Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s.) that his father, Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s.) once said: “The emergence of an individual by the name of Sufyani is for sure, the echo of a call from the skies is also for sure, as is the rise of the sun from the west,” he also named other signs that are also for sure.”

 

Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s.) completed his father’s words by saying: “In addition to the internal conflict between Bani “Felan” (felan in Arabic means “someone” and is used when the person speaking doesn’t want to directly name someone and here what might be meant by His Excellency is the tribe of Bani Umayyah or maybe the army of evil), the killing of the Nafs Zakiyyah (the pure one), and the emergence and rise of the Qa’im (Imam Mahdi (a.s.)) which in reality is a vow that will without a doubt take place. I (Abu Hamzah) asked: “Can you please explain about the cry from the sky?!” He answered: “In the beginning of a certain day, a caller will call in such a way that each nation will understand what is being said through its own language, saying: “All be aware that the truth is in Ali (a.s.) and his followers!”, and at the end of the day, Iblis (Shaytan) will call out saying: “All be aware that the truth lies in the Sufyani and his followers!”

 

Here, those who don’t have stable faiths will begin to doubt.”[2], [3]

 

Second: In order that a person should remain steadfast and have a lasting belief in Imam Mahdi (atf) and to remain unflinchingly adherent to his belief at the end of time, he needs to fight his carnal desires, remember God and trust in God, resort to the Quran and the Ahlul-Bayt (a.s.), deepen his relationship with Ahluz-Zikr (people of remembrance) or jurisprudents who are the trustees of the infallible Imams and their successors. That is because during the period of occultation, Satanic temptations and specious arguments increase and the growing material attractions influence and encompass the lives of the entire people. Meanwhile, the number of people who are steadfast in their loyalty to the Promised Mahdi (atf) and the reappearance of the Savior of the World is so few and rare that they, as reported in traditions, have been likened to alchemy:

 

"By the One Who sent me with the Truth as a Herald of Glad Tidings, those who will remain steadfast in the belief in him in the time of his occultation, they are rarer than alchemy.”[4]

 

Allamah Amini says in his book, Mahdi, the Just Leader of Humanity:

 

During the occultation, innovations will appear in the religion, and the ordinances of the Qur'an and the teachings of Islam will be interpreted in accordance with people's likes and dislikes. As a result, many teachings and laws will be forgotten as if they were never even a part of Islam.[5]

 

Different readings of the religion are the most dangerous means of assault which we face during the period of occultation. When the Imam of Time (atf) reappears, he shall come across some so-called scholars (not idolaters) who interpret the Quran according to their personal reason or opinions (ra'y). Eventually, different readings of the religion become so widespread that all people turn to believe in them.[6]

 

People, having abandoned the absolute principles and fundamental teachings of Islam, merely follow the outward forms of religion, and regard those to be sufficient. These are the people who, besides the five daily obligatory prayers, the fasting of Ramadan, and the avoidance of external pollution (najasat), know nothing of Islam. They do not regard ethical behavior and moral precepts to be part of Islam. They give no importance to eschewing immoral conduct and make an excuse of not following moral guidelines since there is dispute about the obligatoriness and the prohibitions of certain requirements. They go as far as turning the prohibitions of the law, through trickery, into something permissible. They also shun their responsibility for paying the dues that are imposed by the law on them. In other words, they are engaged in observing the religion according to their desires. Certainly, such a religion would seem new and difficult to these people, and they might not even consider it to be Islam, because they have imagined Islam to be something else.[7],[8]

 

Thus, with this wrong assumption, a great number of people and even a group of so-called scholars who are apparently religious-minded people stand up against the Imam, reject the truth and real Islam as false and consider their own religion and beliefs as true. In this manner, they deviate from the right path and become disbelievers.

It has been narrated from Imam Sadiq (a.s.) that he said: "When our Qa'im arises he will call people anew to Islam, guiding them to the old thing from which people have turned away."[9]

 

Third: According to traditions, following the reappearance of the Hujjah of God (Imam Mahdi), Prophet Jesus will offer prayers behind him in the presence of others. It has been narrated from the Prophet (pbuh) that he said: "By Allah Who appointed me as a bearer of good news, if there was one day left of this world, Allah will prolong that day so that my son, Mahdi appears. Afterwards Jesus, the Spirit of Allah, shall come and will perform his prayer standing behind him. Then the earth will brighten up with the Light of God and Mahdi's government shall spread to the east and west of the universes."[10]

 

Since a great many people make the followers of Prophet Jesus (a.s.) and he regard Mahdi (atf) as the savior and global reformer, they, seeing this scene get interested in Mahdi (atf) and start to believe in him. This by itself is one of the causes of the victory of the Imam (atf) in his global movement and rise.

 

Fourth: In the same way that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) is the last prophet and his religion is the most perfect of all religions, Imam Mahdi is also the last infallible Imam (atf) who with his qiyam (rise) shall bring a great change in the world and shall help mankind attain the peak of perfection, knowledge and the highest level of piety, spirituality and justice.

In regard to the perfection of knowledge, Imam Sadiq (a.s.) says: “Knowledge is contained in twenty-seven letters (parts) and everything which all of the (previous) messengers brought was merely two of these letters and until the day (when al-Mahdi makes his advent), the people will not be given knowledge except of these two letters. So then when our Qa’im makes his advent, he will bring with him the other twenty-five letters (of knowledge) and he will spread these among the people and add these to the previous two letters (parts) such that he will have imparted the twenty-seven letters (of knowledge) to them.”[11]

 

If we assume that "letter" refers to a discipline or field of knowledge, then it means that all the sciences and knowledge that mankind will achieve or are available to them till the advent of the Imam will be equal to two disciplines out of 27 disciplines. The remaining 25 disciplines will be revealed to humans by the Imam of Time (atf) during the period of occultation. [12]

 

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[1] - For further information in this regard, vide: The Signs of Reappearance (atf), question 219 (site: 2032).

[2] - Kamaluddin, vol.2, pg.652.

[3] - Extracted from question 219 (site: 2032) Index: The Signs of Reappearance (atf)

[4] - Muhammad Rey Shahri, Muhammad, Mizan al-Hikmah, vol.1, pg. 282.

[5] - Mahdi, the Just Leader of Humanity by Ibrahim Amini, pg. 325

[6] - Aftab Wilayat, Muhammad Taqi Mesbah Yazdi, pg. 237.

[7] - Mahdi, the Just Leader of Humanity by Ibrahim Amini, pg. 326

[8] - For further information, vide: Index: Hazrat Mahdi and New Religion, question 1424 (site: 1636).

[9] - Kashful Ghummah, vol.3, pg. 254; Irshard of Shaykh Mufid, pg. 343.

[10] - Shaykh Saduq,Kamaluddin, pg. 163, cited from Intizar Khurshid Wilayat by Abdul Rahman Ansari, Islamic Propagations Office Publication, (1373) 1994.

[11] - Wasa’il ash-Shi’a, Volume 7, Page 326, hadith 10

[12] - Abdul Rahman Ansari, Dar Intizar Khurshid Wilayat, Islamic Propagations Office Publications, 1373 (1994) pg. 322 with little modification

 

With Duas.

 

Narsis.

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Yes. If I were a nasibi or a muqasir I would start looking for a hiding place at the south pole or another planet about now...

Lol.....

After the death of abdullah (la), Kingdom will only last for months and days according to hadiths so it will be interesting to see what happens.....

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yeah after they get humiliated in yemen in sha Allah .. again

Pakistan not sending their troops they said to the PAK government that only send sunni soldiers.....PAK government aren't as takfiri as the saudi royal family (la) some of the top generals are shia the previous chief of army staff was shia it will never happen that PAK soldiers help saudi out.

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My thoughts are it's fabricated, and sheep are propagating it. Can anyone find it in a classical source ? If not that, can anyone even verify it?

 

The hadith about Abdullah is found in Tusi's Ghayba. 

 

From him from `Uthman b. `Isa from Durust b. Abi Mansur from `Ammar b. Marwan from Abu Basir. He said: I heard Abu `Abdillah (as) saying: Whoever guarantees for me the death of `Abdullah (or, a servant of Allah), I guarantee for him the Qa’im. Then he said: When `Abdullah will die, the people will not convene after him upon anyone, and this affair will not (?) apart from your companion, Åä ÔÇÁ Çááå. And the kingdom of years will leave and become the kingdom of months and days. So I said: Will that be lengthened? He said: Certainly not.

 

 

Grading

 

MAJHOOL

 

 

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235002903-tusis-ghayba-a-selection-of-hadiths-english/

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@Darth vader

LOL! The only people who need to hide are you Persian nationalists enemies of Allah and your ideological partners in Israel/West. You three together all oppose Islam. That's why Shia/Westerners come close to each other ideologically and through cooperation. With Sunnis, they deal with us through intimidation and force.

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