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Asalamalikum,
 
I know this isn't a therapy website, but I just want to know if this happens to anyone else?
 

I have these weird thoughts/voices in my head that are not nice. I don't like them, and sometimes I feel suicidal and I roll up in a ball and cry. I don't like to explain what exactly happens inside my head because I don't like thinking about. But basically it's nothing nasty or dirty. It's all about God and other religious stuff. Just imagine literally hearing the Shaytan talking to you, and telling you bad stuff about God..and etc.. The thoughts or voices don't tell me to do anything bad, just bad stuff about my creator. 
 
These weird things cause me to sometimes pray faster to keep my mind just moving, sometimes I have to sleep with The Quran  hugged to my chest. I mean they aren't nice. I have no doubt in Allah, his messenger, Islam, or Ahulbayet. Of course I am always sending my sallam to The Holy Prophet and HIs Pure Family. And always saying "asgafurallah rabi" or "a'thubilAllah min alshaydan rajam" Literally ALL the time. It gets annoying because I wish to say these for the sake of remembering Allah. But no, I have to say them because to get these thoughts out of my mind, which half the time doesn't work. My mom wants me to see a therapist but I don't want to.
 
Does this happen to anyone else?
I always fear Allah will hate me, or I will go to hell. 
I don't know what to do? 
What in the world could it be?
My biggest fear which causes me to sometimes commit self harm, cry, etc.,is the fact that Allah might not forgive me, that he hates me because of these thoughts or voices. (I can't tell the difference)
 

Thanks so much for taking the time to read and answer. May Allah Bless you all Duniya w Akira.

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I had thoughts something like that and I usually cry all night. Sometimes I get so scared I can't sleep anymore. But I learnt that these thoughts are from shaitan and i found i had OCD.

And once i ignored these thoughts and made dua'a they are gone alhamdullilah.

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Do not despair of Allah's (SWT) mercy he is the most merciful and he will forgive you inshaallah but all the things I've stated above worked for me even if I've suffered from these thoughts for 1 1/2 years (approximately).

WA alaikum asalam.

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Salaam,

 

A person went to the Prophet (s.a.w.) complaining:

"O Rasul Allah,I have perished."

The Prophet told him, "the evil one [shaitan] came to you and asked you who created you? and you replied, "Allah", then he asked you who created Allah?"

The person said, "By He Who sent you with the truth, it was exactly like that!"

The Prophet stated, "By Allah, that is pure imaan."

[Al-Kafi, vol. 2, p 425]

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I had thoughts something like that and I usually cry all night. Sometimes I get so scared I can't sleep anymore. But I learnt that these thoughts are from shaitan and i found i had OCD.

And once i ignored these thoughts and made dua'a they are gone alhamdullilah.

Salam Alikum brother,I need your help because one guy whom I know well and he is the most beloved to me and I want to help him is going through this problem following are his words

"I guess I have OCD.

Following are my symptoms:

1:Too many psychological nervous habits.For e.g:touching something again and again without any good reason.

2:My mind is obssessed with certain numbers 1,3,5,78,10 and dislike other numbers in between i.e 2,4,6,9.Hence I do many things in accordance with 1st set of numbers for e.g:I wash my face either 1 or 3 times every morning and if for some reason I need to wash more than once then it is certainly 3 and not 2 because 2 is the number which I dislike.I also drink cofee,tea or water etc in the number of sips which is composed of 1st set of numbers and if for some reason my drink is not finished in accordance with that then I refill my cup/glass so that I can finish it with that set of numbers.Furthermore,there are many other works in my daily routine in which I practice this set of numbers. 

3:I have doubts even about stuffs related to this world and not just about God&stuffs related to religion.For example:everynight after shutting my computer down.I doubt that the screen is black whether because of it turned of or it might be because of going to 'stand by' despite the fact that I clicked on 'turn off' button hence I press keyboard buttons multiple times incase if it is on 'stand by' so that it starts again.I also check door locks multiple times before going to bed despite the fact that I have locked it with my own hands recently.Furthermore,there are many daily routine works in which I follow these doubts.

4:and many many other absurd behaviours which I(dota~lover,the actual questioner here) is not mentioning for the sake of not lengthening the question.

2 questions from nightly:

1:Did you also had the above mentioned psychological habits?or atleast did you had the urge to do those stuffs?

2:In my knowledge as far as I remember someone who got cured the sameway like you i.e "with the help of dua" mentioned that the curing process was atleast 8 days lengthy and in those days the bad thoughts was even more than the normal days and it was on it's peak.He even mentioned that in those 8 days he could not even sleep more than 2-3 hours and he was never afraid like that before in his life and he was very close to suicide because of "bad thoughts about God& about God not forgiving him because he was thinking that he was committing shirk/infidelity because of those uncontrollable thoughts.

Were you also going through this phase?in which these satanic thoughts was on it's peak and you were very afraid(or even close to suicide)?

please help me brother as you probably know that OCD currently don't have any cure and the only cure is through dua.However,your experience here will be alot beneficial and remember that guy is my most beloved.So plzz help him for God's sake and for my sake :P.                                                                          

            

                                                                                                                                       Wassalam O Alikum

 

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Salam Alikum brother,I need your help because one guy whom I know well and he is the most beloved to me and I want to help him is going through this problem following are his words

"I guess I have OCD.

Following are my symptoms:

1:Too many psychological nervous habits.For e.g:touching something again and again without any good reason.

2:My mind is obssessed with certain numbers 1,3,5,78,10 and dislike other numbers in between i.e 2,4,6,9.Hence I do many things in accordance with 1st set of numbers for e.g:I wash my face either 1 or 3 times every morning and if for some reason I need to wash more than once then it is certainly 3 and not 2 because 2 is the number which I dislike.I also drink cofee,tea or water etc in the number of sips which is composed of 1st set of numbers and if for some reason my drink is not finished in accordance with that then I refill my cup/glass so that I can finish it with that set of numbers.Furthermore,there are many other works in my daily routine in which I practice this set of numbers. 

3:I have doubts even about stuffs related to this world and not just about God&stuffs related to religion.For example:everynight after shutting my computer down.I doubt that the screen is black whether because of it turned of or it might be because of going to 'stand by' despite the fact that I clicked on 'turn off' button hence I press keyboard buttons multiple times incase if it is on 'stand by' so that it starts again.I also check door locks multiple times before going to bed despite the fact that I have locked it with my own hands recently.Furthermore,there are many daily routine works in which I follow these doubts.

4:and many many other absurd behaviours which I(dota~lover,the actual questioner here) is not mentioning for the sake of not lengthening the question.

2 questions from nightly:

1:Did you also had the above mentioned psychological habits?or atleast did you had the urge to do those stuffs?

2:In my knowledge as far as I remember someone who got cured the sameway like you i.e "with the help of dua" mentioned that the curing process was atleast 8 days lengthy and in those days the bad thoughts was even more than the normal days and it was on it's peak.He even mentioned that in those 8 days he could not even sleep more than 2-3 hours and he was never afraid like that before in his life and he was very close to suicide because of "bad thoughts about God& about God not forgiving him because he was thinking that he was committing shirk/infidelity because of those uncontrollable thoughts.

Were you also going through this phase?in which these satanic thoughts was on it's peak and you were very afraid(or even close to suicide)?

please help me brother as you probably know that OCD currently don't have any cure and the only cure is through dua.However,your experience here will be alot beneficial and remember that guy is my most beloved.So plzz help him for God's sake and for my sake :P.                                                                          

            

                                                                                                                                       Wassalam O Alikum

 

Q1 Yes i did have those habits.

Q2 yes i did have those aswell.

Q3 No i didnt have those.

 

I didn't have the urge to kill myself but i felt helpless when those thoughts arrived and thought i committed shirk/kufr .

especially when i pray these thoughts get more powerful. Then whenever i touch something i always think i have touched najasah. and while i'm alone these thoughts are the most powerful.

TBH these thoughts are not completely gone but anyways this is how i overcame most of them. First of all you have to remember Allah is the most merciful and the most forgiving. ALWAYS AND I REPEAT ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND AND HEART.

dua'a albaha seemed to help me alot.

as i said in my posts above this may or may not work or help you in any way but inshaallah they will help him.

wa alaikum asalam.

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Are you reverted ?

 

If yes its usual , don't worry about it, use your practice of Astaghfaar .. Try to be punctual for Tahajjud , avoid food from outside so that you will not get any Najis food. A blood cycle need 40 days to get pure if you remain cautious for 40 days and avoid all kind of Najis .. Insha Allah this is what called Therapy of Soul. 

 

Allah promised for Tahajjud prayers he will make Angels your friend and they will make a Layer over you to overcome these situation. If you can't recite Tahajjud in its best time which is Before Fajr prayer then recite it when you have enough time with Niyah of Kaza. There is Hadith Allah loves those who do Kaza of Mustahab prayers too.

 

Don't forget Ghusl of Juma it is also Extremely recommended same like Tahajjud and you can do Kaza for Juma Ghusl too, like if you forget in friday do it on saturday too.

 

This problem is mostly found in reverted people , bcoz they are finding right path and leaving the wrong. Don't worry Insha Allah everything will become good.

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Asalamalikum,

 

I know this isn't a therapy website, but I just want to know if this happens to anyone else?

 

I have these weird thoughts/voices in my head that are not nice. I don't like them, and sometimes I feel suicidal and I roll up in a ball and cry. I don't like to explain what exactly happens inside my head because I don't like thinking about. But basically it's nothing nasty or dirty. It's all about God and other religious stuff. Just imagine literally hearing the Shaytan talking to you, and telling you bad stuff about God..and etc.. The thoughts or voices don't tell me to do anything bad, just bad stuff about my creator. 
 
These weird things cause me to sometimes pray faster to keep my mind just moving, sometimes I have to sleep with The Quran  hugged to my chest. I mean they aren't nice. I have no doubt in Allah, his messenger, Islam, or Ahulbayet. Of course I am always sending my sallam to The Holy Prophet and HIs Pure Family. And always saying "asgafurallah rabi" or "a'thubilAllah min alshaydan rajam" Literally ALL the time. It gets annoying because I wish to say these for the sake of remembering Allah. But no, I have to say them because to get these thoughts out of my mind, which half the time doesn't work. My mom wants me to see a therapist but I don't want to.
 
Does this happen to anyone else?
I always fear Allah will hate me, or I will go to hell. 
I don't know what to do? 
What in the world could it be?
My biggest fear which causes me to sometimes commit self harm, cry, etc.,is the fact that Allah might not forgive me, that he hates me because of these thoughts or voices. (I can't tell the difference)
 

Thanks so much for taking the time to read and answer. May Allah Bless you all Duniya w Akira.

Salaam Alaikum, sister!

 

I am so sorry to read about what you are going through.  Sister, if you are committing self harm, it is definitely important to seek professional help.  There is no shame in speaking with a therapist.  I know some people fear the stigma of it.  I will say this right now: I went through therapy myself when I was younger and it helped me alhamdulillah! 

 

As far as the other issues you are experiencing, please never despair in the love and mercy of Allah (s.w.t.).  Never stop seeking His forgiveness and His mercy.  Never stop seeking refuge in Allah (s.w.t.).  Before the last Ramadan, I was in a similar situation.  I hardly prayed salat.  I never went to the masjid, etc.  I started missing Christianity... it was bad.  And then I went to the masjid.  Wallahi when I heard the adhan, my eyes filled with tears.  I know that there are many people with similar stories, but this was like nothing I ever experienced. 

 

I also feared that everything I did was terrible and a sin and that Allah (s.w.t.) would have been right to send me to hell forever.  I felt that everything I did was terrible and worthless.  Awful thoughts would run through my mind when I would try to pray.  I won't repeat it but it was terrible.  I sought refuge in Allah (s.w.t.) and I prayed my salat regularly.  I made du'a at night and of course being Ramadan, I fasted.  None of this is to brag or to make myself sound good, but I had a dream like none I ever experienced around the 27th of Ramadan.  In my dream, I saw myself washing dishes and I felt myself separating from my body.  I felt myself rising up in the air with the most overwhelming sense of peace I have ever known.  As I did, I heard myself saying "la ilaha il Allah," and my eyes opened as I was saying it.  There was no haze or confusion when I awoke.  It was truly like nothing I ever experienced.

 

Why do I mention this stuff?  Because I was obsessed with dying and going to hellfire unforgiven and without a chance.  But Allah (s.w.t.) had mercy on me and I can only thank and praise Him for guiding me back to the Deen.  What I'm trying to say here is that the mercy of Allah (s.w.t.) is boundless.  We only need to ask Him for it.  We must remember that everything that Allah (s.w.t.) gives us is good for us, either in the sense that it is good for us in this life or it expiates sin in the next.  We must submit to His will and bear all things with patience. When we do sin, we must not fall into the worst of shaytan's traps: that you are so bad that even prayer won't help and that Allah (s.w.t.) hates you.  Allah (s.w.t.) loves those who repent and seek His forgiveness.

 

Allah (s.w.t.) created you!  He does not do things for sport or to waste time. Nothing Allah (s.w.t.) does is without reason or wisdom.  I can say this: there are many wonderful brothers and sisters here, and I'm sure we are all happy to help.  I definitely am.  But the best of Helpers is Allah (s.w.t.).  Please constantly seek His mercy, love, and forgiveness!

 

I will make du'a for you as well.  :)

R

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voices !!

if you really really hear voices that are not exist and hear some one talk to you .. this is schizophrenia

and it is not shame .. there are 1 out of 100 exposed to have this, in every 40 family there is one who have this..

it is lucky that you admit it and did not hide it..I have my brother complain of this ..but he did not tell us till it was so late,

but alhamdulilah he could manage it.

we take him for a doctor who gave him very tiny bill of medicine and said

this will replace the shortage of some substance in his brain

and he is fine now.

so schizophrenia is not mental ,it is actually physical..shortage of a certain substance that the brain cannot produce the needed amount of it.

go and be in the safe side.. if my guess is not true you will be better to drop this possibility.

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Salam brother. i understand how it feels, i used to have bad thoughts about Allah (swt), Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his ahlul bayt (as). i can tell u, i felt the exact way u were feeling, that Allah hates u and that your a kaafir for thinking of such thoughts. But let me tell u, all these thoughts you are having are just from shaitan, trying to make u despair of Allah and that Allah hates u. Infact these thoughts just reflect on how much iman u really have. i say this through the following hadith:

 

A person went to the Prophet (s.a.w.) complaining:

"O Rasul Allah,I have perished."

The Prophet told him, "the evil one [shaitan] came to you and asked you who created you? and you replied, "Allah", then he asked you who created Allah?"

The person said, "By He Who sent you with the truth, it was exactly like that!"

The Prophet stated, "By Allah, that is pure imaan."

[Al-Kafi, vol. 2, p 425]

 

Every time u get such thoughts, just seek refuge from Allah and ask his forgiveness. You shouldnt despair rather u should be happy coz this is a sign that u have strong iman. I used to have these thoughts a few years ago. i dont have them anymore because lately i have been indulged in sin, so shaitaan isnt giving me these thoughts much anymore :( i am now trying to become a better shia, like i was a few years ago.

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Walaikum Salam

 

I used to have unwanted thoughts in my head and it was OCD.  Some of them made me feel like I would hurt myself.  I think it would be good for you to talk to a doctor about it because there is medication to help with this.  Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) doesn't mean you are crazy.  If you have OCD or another disorder that causes these intrusive thoughts/voices, its because of brain chemistry.  There are neurotransmitters and hormones that can get out of balance and create these kinds of symptoms.  Just like some people get a thyroid problem from hormone problems, other people experience intrusive thoughts.  Please be sure you talk to a doctor because it could be that there is a simple remedy for all this.  

 

I will be praying for you, insha'Allah.

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ws man138 - like what everyone said above, i too will tell you the same. but apart from that, i will also suggest that you meditate.

meditation is basically concentrating on your breath. inhale and exhale. the moment a thought pops up, allow it. just observe what the thought was and then let it go. dont indulge yourself in that thought. its like you sitting behind a waterfall and watching the water fall. thoughts are like that. however, by meditation, you become the watcher/observer of these random thoughts.

try this for 5 minutes or however long you want. remember to stay w your breath. inhale and exhale. stay in the present. cos thoughts are either of the past or the future. stay where you are. w the Grace of Allah SWT you will be fine. best wishes and prayers

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Please, anyone who is harming themselves, or tempted to do so, get professional help. At least talk to someone wise whom you trust, in the name of God the merciful

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You're not alone, don't worry. Allot of people have this happen to them, i am one of them, but than it shouldn't bother you because it's shaytaan & you shouldn't listen to what he says, unless if you were saying it yourself like saying bad things about Allah swt or anything like that, i feel like that will be a different story.

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Please go get medical help. The longer you wait the stronger it gets.

I've seen a close friend that got better only with pills. Don't waste your time thinking your possessed.. Plz just go-to a doctor within a month you'll be fine.

Take care

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Salams All,

For all those who are facing this problems I recommend you to read this book "the jinn and human sickness" available free on internet. Read the adhkar given in chapter 5 of this book. Inshallah you will be cured.

Some important things to follow for all;

1.Saying Bismillah before starting anything

2. To do salah in jamat especially fajr

3. Always be inwadoo

4. Qiyam al layl

5. If u r married before sex say the dua

6. Ayat al kursi before going to bed

7. 4th kalima 100 times after fajr

8. Dua before leaving house

I know its tough but remember its a test from Allah if u r patient rewards for u if u complain then nothing but resentment until you turn to Allah again.

O Allah Lord of mankind it is You who removes suffering. You are the Healer and none can heal but You. I beg You to bring about healing that leaves behind no ailment.

Jazakallah

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(bismillah)

 

(salam) everyone,

 

I also know very good these thoughts that just appear in your head and start saying (or try to make you say or do) something negative. I also know this problem well from a different perspective of a professional health - care worker in psychiatry, where I have dealt with people with OCD and similar disorders on daily basis. 

 

I would also recommend going to see a therypist, as it can get worse and make your life a living hell.

 

But I also believe that up to a certain point we are all exposed to shaytan's whisperings and temptations, and that many of us can be helped by religious means - as I said, up to a certain point.

 

I am also a revert that found Islam almost 35 years ago, and I have never been free from those whisperings and other types of temptations, only sometimes they get so bad that I am close to despair of how to get rid of them once and for all. Especially during the prayer, even before I say the takbeer, it starts - and I read ma'udhatayn, seek protection from Allah te'ala from the accursed shaytan, and try to concentrate as hard as I can on what I am saying and Who I am trying to talk to, and it sometimes helps - for about 5 minutes, or it gets even worse...

 

I do not think that Allah te'ala hates me or that I shall go to hell because of it, I am just afraid that my a'amaal shall be void for riya' or nifaq, and that is a terrible thought in itself. I try to shut those thoughts out, but I have noticed that whenever I have a very good period and my faith gets stronger - the attacs get stronger, too. It is a rule that never seems to change.

 

Unfortunately I do not have the answer that could solve that problem once and forever. But I wanted to tell all of my brothers and sisters who suffer through similar problems and are afraid to mention them or seek help - you are not alone. And maybe you have them precisely because your faith is strong and is being tested to become even stronger and deeper...

 

Some small things do help and bring a short relief to me, so maybe you should try them, too.

 

1 - Try to be on woodhoo always, and especially before going to sleep.

 

2 - Find islamic books on our Holy personalities - the Prophet (pbuh), Imams  (as) and great maraja' , that describe their tribulations and sufferings in life; reading about them always bring me the feeling of calm and love back, and I feel included and secure in this great religion. Read it before you go to sleep, but have one of them in your bag all the time, for a short reading when it gets unbearable if you are in school, in the train - wherever!

 

3 - There are compilations and texts about the benefits of all Qur'anic suras (you have them for example on Dua.net or Al Islam.org) and there many benefits of surahs and ayaat are listed, so you can find the sura or ayah that you love and feel connected to, to memorize it and repeat it when the attacs start, or make a habit of reading it before sleep for a number of times, it really helps. Try to find those about Allah's Mercy or how the hearts find their peace and solace in His remembrance, or anything that you feel drawn to and like it.

 

4 - Ask your most beloved religious personality for help. It can be the Apostle of God (pbuh) or Sayyida Zahra'  (as) or any of the Imams  (as), or Sayyid 'Abbas Abul Fadhl  (as) or anyone else you feel close to. Ask for their intercession before Allah te'ala so that you may be relieved of these temptations and whisperings, and don't give up - ask and beg for it many times, so that this personality sees how sincere and earnest you are. You shall not be abandoned, believe me!

 

If all of this doesn't help and if it gets much worse, or if the voices grow imperative (i.e. if they start ordering you to harm yourself or others), then seek professional help. It is no shame to have mental problems, many of us have them, and they can be overcome. And if you visit a therapist, no one except your closest relatives must know if that is important to you. There is a stigma on such things in certain societies and ethnic groups, but theses are just old and outdated prejudices...

 

I do hope any of this can help, and the brothers and sisters who answered you above gave also some very good advice.

 

May Allah te'ala bless you and help you (and us all)

 

Kindest regards,

 

Amina 

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Are you reverted ?

 

....

 

This problem is mostly found in reverted people , bcoz they are finding right path and leaving the wrong. Don't worry Insha Allah everything will become good.

im a revert, i guess (sunni born, atheist as soon as i was baligh, under Mola Ghazi's protection for the last four/five years alhamdullilah), and ive just come out of a similar situation.... a real strange time in my mental life, break down, suicide attempt, therapy... but alirex what do you mean its usual with reverts? what other symptoms are known? or is it better for one to not know in advance?

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Salam Alaykum,

 

Just a rule of thumb whenever you get bothersome thoughts--make an announcement to Allah swt that these thoughts are not mine--they're from Shaytan, and I am completely disassociated with them. And then just leave it at that. Don't pay attention to them, because that can strengthen Shaytan's attempt to fool you. Sometimes you need to not focus on something in order for it to go away--the more attention/sensitivity you show towards it, the worse it is.

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Asalamalikum,

I know this isn't a therapy website, but I just want to know if this happens to anyone else?

I have these weird thoughts/voices in my head that are not nice. I don't like them, and sometimes I feel suicidal and I roll up in a ball and cry. I don't like to explain what exactly happens inside my head because I don't like thinking about. But basically it's nothing nasty or dirty. It's all about God and other religious stuff. Just imagine literally hearing the Shaytan talking to you, and telling you bad stuff about God..and etc.. The thoughts or voices don't tell me to do anything bad, just bad stuff about my creator.

These weird things cause me to sometimes pray faster to keep my mind just moving, sometimes I have to sleep with The Quran hugged to my chest. I mean they aren't nice. I have no doubt in Allah, his messenger, Islam, or Ahulbayet. Of course I am always sending my sallam to The Holy Prophet and HIs Pure Family. And always saying "asgafurallah rabi" or "a'thubilAllah min alshaydan rajam" Literally ALL the time. It gets annoying because I wish to say these for the sake of remembering Allah. But no, I have to say them because to get these thoughts out of my mind, which half the time doesn't work. My mom wants me to see a therapist but I don't want to.

Does this happen to anyone else?

I always fear Allah will hate me, or I will go to hell.

I don't know what to do?

What in the world could it be?

My biggest fear which causes me to sometimes commit self harm, cry, etc.,is the fact that Allah might not forgive me, that he hates me because of these thoughts or voices. (I can't tell the difference)

Thanks so much for taking the time to read and answer. May Allah Bless you all Duniya w Akira.

salaam try eating only what is needed. Avoid over eating.

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