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How Do You Guys Stay Halal? Intercourse Related

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So yeah I'm wondering.

I'm mean you go puberty at age 12 to 15 and most guys marry at 25+

How do you guys stay halal......

I have not done something wrong, but it feels like I'm the only guy with this problem. Harmonically problems...

Well, stay away from anything that leads to haram, but that's easier said than done. But the most important thing is your willpower. Everyday when you get up, repeat 'I will not commit haram' 99 times. This is helpful.

 

If you need a bit more juice, make a covenant will Allah swt. Breaking a covenant will require you to fast 60 days straight. That should provide you with a  good incentive to stay on track.

 

Salam.

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Most guys face the same problem actually, you're definitely not alone.

 

They do things that keep them busy, whether it be sports, video games, studies, etc. 

Depends on the person.

 

Then there's also the other things you can do like fasting, praying on a regular basis, etc.

 

In the end it boils down to willpower. You can make a choice to refrain from engaging in sexual activities. Although can be extremely tough at times, it gets easier to do the more you refrain.

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(salam)

 

I think you are not the only one who has a problem in this regard. But the important point is that:

 

Yes it is possible for us to have some mistakes because we are not Masoom and infallible, but simultaneously we should know:

 

 We should do our best no to commit sins, and if we did our best but unfortunately we failed God is merciful. Allah is merciful and He had said: if you perform Tawba I will forgive you.

 

 

Another point that is important and helpful is Mut`ah. If you`ve got stuck in a situation in which you can not keep refraining lust, you can do Mut`ah. But you should be careful in this regard also.

 

Salam.

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Edited by Khaybar

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So yeah I'm wondering.

I'm mean you go puberty at age 12 to 15 and most guys marry at 25+

How do you guys stay halal......

I have not done something wrong, but it feels like I'm the only guy with this problem. Harmonically problems...

 

How old are you and where do you live.

 

Do you attend public school?  Mixed gender?

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They don't keep halal because it is not possible to keep halal past 25. I speak for people in western societies who do not attend special Islamic schools.

 

If someone is living in an Islamic country where bad content can't be found on TV etc then it is easier, Hijab also helps men. 

 

But in western societies it is the exact opposite, women try to look as sexually attractive as possible. 10 years ago I thought Jeans were bad but now they wear these tights which stick tighter to their bodies then their own skin, they would look far uglier naked then they do dressed up. 

 

The exposure to seeing women and their features causes temptation and a build up of lust.

 

So in such a society, a man who is over 25 has done Haram. Best to marry at 16 or 18 or when one reaches puberty or before falling to sin. It falls on the parents to make marriage easy for their child, something many parents are failing.

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Salamun 'Alaykum,

 

Just some thoughts...

 

I think that there is a common misconception (among many Westerners, at least) that one can somehow enjoy ones' partner physically, without participating in any kind of emotional or spiritual relationship, along with it. Many think they can have their cake and it eat too, "no strings attached." Thinking and living in this manner does immense violence to our Iman, Ihsan and Islam. Our bodies, minds and souls suffer immensely. Not to mention that such unrepentant behavior might well land us in a very unpleasant afterlife...

 

Marriage safeguards against this kind of unbridled sexual activity we find in the modern world. It is a tremendous commitment, but also a mercy from Allah SWT.

 

It can also potentially be turned into a complete disaster, especially if ego and selfish desire are what motivate individuals in a relationship (and not higher ideals, such as modesty, piety, etc.). IMO, strong currents of individualism, irresponsibility, and greed in society are large contributing factors of the divorce epidemic in the West. My uncle always says, "the reason too many people get divorced is not because it's too easy to get divorced; It's too easy to get married!" Utmost care and due diligence in finding the right life partner are essential in order to create a successful marriage, but it's ultimately up to you to either be or become as much of a bessing and as little of a curse to your spouse as possible...

 

WS   

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Your best bet is to reprogram yourself entirely and not just stay away from all sexual lures. If someone advocates it as a 'need' they are wrong, you must realize that. There were monks and ascetics aplenty, and still are, who never married nor sinned, never had any sort of sex. So its possible. And imho it is the best option for anyone serious about staying comfortable in this life and the next. Remind yourself of and imagine the fires of hell. No one and nothing would want to be in there.

 

How to start this journey. Well first you must realize what and who you are. This is most important. Then analyze the problem of the urge, the call or whatever you may call it. Its easily defeatable. There are good tips in the posts above. But first you alone must do the ground work, and lay down a good and proper foundation for it. The weak get devoured by Satan, as always, and they aways have great justifications for each mountain range of a problem we get ourselves into.

 

Realize that this life is rather nether life and life is what comes after death. There is a purpose behind the creation of the perfect Hoor creature for men. Contemplate everything I'm writing. The woman is designed to attract you most strongly, and the purpose of that is nothing but the continuity of the human race and to test you with yet another snare. She is the result of that design and her beauty is the product of the hormones and natural intent. That simple. We're biological machines that can program ourselves the way we want to.

 

Know your enemy and know yourself, and victory will be yours.

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No one stays :Halal by doing what you just described .

If you a brown guy , Arab , Iranian , Paki , Leb ,etc , with a huge labido , and an insatiable hunger than forget it , it's all over for those living in the west.

Get away from this one wife marriage trap , get away from marrying at 25+ trap , it's all designed to make you enter into sin and stay in sin forever.

None of the above advises work , none of the advises of our scholars work , because not one of them have lived in the west and have been exposed to what we are exposed to.

The solution is simple , rather then fight it , use the force to your advantage , like Aikido or krav Maga in which you turn everything around and get an upper hand as they fight dirty and with no rules out on the streets.

Start by having as many wives as possible ( :Mutah or permanent ) , perhaps :Mutah to begin with , have 4 or 5 at the same time , but you must tell them from the start ,none of this hiding things or lying , be upfront from the beginning. You will surprised how women will respect that , because all men lie and I mean all men . Make lots of money to support them ,  look good and get a great  lifestyle, make heaps of money that enables you to have time like a business that pays well for minimal hours of contribution e.g. trading .

Dress smart , learn to be confident and successful and keep away from losers.

Your a :Shia , act like it and attract your prospective wives.

Learn how to influence and lead women , and not be lead by them .

You will not find any :Shia sisters or :Sunnis who will want any part of this as they have sold out to the system .

You will need to approach non muslim women and covert them, because a few of them are looking for something different , as they are open to new ideas. ( and there are more of them like 3 billion to choose from and they come in all shapes, sizes and colours)

When you are a :Shia and when you strive to be one of the 313 , this will give you such charisma and confidence , that you will have such a special aura about you.

Women will want to be one of your wives, because most men out there are zombies with no meaning in their lives , and only exist to serve the system of the :Bani-Umayyads (L) .

You are a :Shia , a potential 313 waiting for our beloved , so go forth and multiply , make millions , have 12 kids , 4 wives and make a great life in preparation of :Al-Hujjat (as).

This is what your :Imam (as) wants of you .

Not this fake system of one wife ( with many on the side in secret ), 1.7 kids  ,boring job , pay your taxes , cry 10 days of :Muharram programmes, and work for 50 years and die broke and so you can make the :Umayyads (L) system rich.

 

WS

Edited by :Sami II

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In the book of Muslim there this one hadith that might be relevant

 

http://sunnah.com/riyadussaliheen/18/123

 

*The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "There are two types of people who will be punished in Hell and whom I have not seen: men having whips like the tails of cows and they will be beating people with them, and, women who will be dressed but appear to be naked, inviting to evil; and they themselves will be inclined to it. Their heads will appear like the humps of the Bactrian camel inclined to one side. They will not enter Jannah and they will not smell its fragrance which is perceptible from such and such a distance."*

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Baloney. Start of brain farts in red. Conflicts in green and red. :p

 

Start by having as many wives as possible ( :Mutah or permanent ) , perhaps :Mutah to begin with , have 4 or 5 at the same time , but you must tell them from the start ,none of this hiding things or lying , be upfront from the beginning. You will surprised how women will respect that , because all men lie and I mean all men . Make lots of money to support them ,  look good and get a great  lifestyle, make heaps of money that enables you to have time like a business that pays well for minimal hours of contribution e.g. trading .

Dress smart , learn to be confident and successful and keep away from losers.


The imam wants you to start a corporate ngo or whatever and heaps of paper money. Join the system of Umayyads and become one of 313? Sheeesh . . . .

 

How many mutah did Imams do? How big heaps of money did they make? When will people learn what Imam Ali said: "Dunya is gained by the decree of fate and Akhira is gained by hard work. While man instead works hard for the dunya and leaves akhira to fate."

 

You really need to learn more, old friend. ^^^

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Baloney. Start of brain farts in red. Conflicts in green and red. :P

 

The imam wants you to start a corporate ngo or whatever and heaps of paper money. Join the system of Umayyads and become one of 313? Sheeesh . . . .

 

How many mutah did Imams do? How big heaps of money did they make? When will people learn what Imam Ali said: "Dunya is gained by the decree of fate and Akhira is gained by hard work. While man instead works hard for the dunya and leaves akhira to fate."

 

You really need to learn more, old friend. ^^^

you have to beat the system my dear young  friend , not join it and be a slave of it for 50+ years working 120 hour weeks till you drop dead .

Get in make millions quickly and get out , max 5 years and retire , this is possible , non muslims do this everyday in order to enjoy life .

We as the :Shia should follow the 5 year model and not the 50 year model .

We have to engage in the system as most of us a normal ordinary folks have broke parents , or grandparents that were well off that lost to all .

I speak of those in the west as I have lived in the west most of my life.

For most of our :Shia youth , there is only one option when it comes to women in the west , fall and drown in sin.

You can fight it as much as you like , it's not going to work , unless you're super saint with powers greater than spiderman .

In the last 50 + years living in the west , I have seen our young men fail big time when it comes to women.

The marry one woman at 25+ doesn't work , it's a scam .

Not marry any women at any age doesn't work , a bigger scam.

It's a trick , a marketing ploy to get all men into the trillion dollar sex industry , and this industry make more money every year .

There's more brothels in any street than 7/11 and MacDonalds , porn is  the most watched on the internet and it funds the internet  , it's so easy to get any women in the west .

It's summer here now , and you should try going to the shops with your family to buy groceries , you have women walking around naked and winking at you .

This is AUSTRALIA , women approach you here and offer you everything and anything.

They all want brown guys and our youth are finished , how can men fight such temptation .

they cant so they fail , 99.9% of them.

So rather then fight this fierce opponent , use it and marry them all and convert them .

turn them into believers , and show them the right way .

And together prepare for our beloved  :Imam (as) .

If you remember our :Imam's (as) mother was also a revert .

Now before all you brothers run out and do this .

BE WARNED :

you have to be financially well off ,and I don't mean being a stupid doctor with your own practise making $500K /year working 120 hr weeks .

I'm talking about making millions in a few years and then letting the millions provide an income for the next 1000 years .

So you have the time to do what is required .

And you must be strong in faith and conviction towards this goal.

You must be truthful and have strong leadership skills and be a real man with a mission.

Women love such a man , and a few would follow you .

So take them and yourself to our :Imam (as) and really prepare with them.

The :Shia sisters will not have any of this as they are programmed like most women in the west with " get a career , marry late and be his only wife so he sneaks behind your back and has his mutahs or his non mutahs " model .

This model I speak of is for the hereafter brother because you are going against the flow , the norm, the system.

The normal model of going to school , getting good grades , working for 50 years , paying your 75% taxes , having one wife who does the same  , raising your 1.7 kids for the system ,  having a mortgage for the 50 years is for this dunya and attending 10 days of crying programmes once a year ,  is what keeps you in slavery to the :Umayyads .(L).

So please read my words carefully my dear friend.

Edited by :Sami II

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^ LOL.

 

So. I have to beat the system and make a heap of money like all the Imams (maazallah) did right?

 

Imam Ali "beat the system" by digging water wells alone all his life, by planting date orchards belonging to Jews, by being broke all the time, by distributing away every last penny of the mountain of war booty he earned from Khyber. Only so he could "live" in peace and retire quickly after making the heap. The heap that will last forever. The heap that your wife will love you for and remember your kindness forever (or until the heap is spent or if she doesn't decide she needs more heaps like that one.. lol).

 

You claim that one has to be super natural, a "spider man" in order to remain chaste, while you recommend the near impossible feat of making someone else revert which all perfectly normal and doable by all, "women in grocery stores walking around naked and winking at you" no less, yeah that sounds like they're 99% muslim already any way, inviting people for "mutah", right? Good luck with that. Oh but first, lets not forget, that heap of money. I bet many brothers were about to run outside and find such a woman before you so prudently warned them about the must have heap of money. Because its so easy to make these days and we should advise every one to make one for their own good very quickly, so then they can marry and revert the naked women winking at you in grocery stores.   :lol:


And lets pity all the "losers" working hard and taking great care that they feed only halal to their families while they also pay the mortgage. The sorest losers of this dunya, big winners of the afterlife, the real life, though? Yeah lets involve them into usury and beat the system at its own game. Sto working hard and feed the pig money of usury to your progeny so your DNA changes too like everybody else's and so your children grow up to worship pop stars and blow away your hard earned property because we haven't learnt about all that even yet. Yes, steal truck loads of pig usury money and revert it too before spending it!~ By registering a NGO and tricking the system right? LOL. How very Imami. Not.

Edited by Darth Vader

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