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Should The Shias Forget Palestine? [Video]

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No Muslims should forget Palestine as it's religious significance alone. This includes Sunnis. It's not about Sunnis or Shias. Palestine will be liberated either before or around Imam Mahdis time. Many Sunnis will take part in it. In hadith the Malaham Al kubra will start around Mahdis time.

So it means large amounts of Muslims will be affected by it. Mostly Sunnis as the area will be in Shaam. Sadly. Shia and Sunni are at each other's throat across the region. It's the fitnah the Prophet(SAW) warned us about. But it also means we are close to Mahdis emergence inshallah.

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Shiites are always standing with the oppressed..

 However in today's scenario Shiites main priority shall be support for the "most oppressed lovers of ahlulbait" in countries like Saudi, Yemen, Bahrain, Egypt, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan etc... 

Everybody is there to help Palestinians round the clock (including sunnis, wahabbis and dozens of other sects who send aid and money). Aid reaches them day and night... But what about the plight of our Shia brethren in the above mentioned countries where every day is a struggle by a shia to survive in the above listed anti-shia countries?

One more important thing to add is that Palestinians are becoming more and more anti-shia every passing day, because they are mindwashed and ignorantly view the shiites as killers of sunnis in Syria.. without researching they believe the stuff as usual and are turning bloodthirsty for shiites.. 

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 It is duty of every Muslim to remind the injustice and tyranny which imposed on the Palestinian and Shia aren’t exception.

According to two reasons we have to help them. First is that helping the oppressed people is the order and advice of the Quran.

Also we have many hadiths that our Prophet (as) and the Ahlulbayt recommended to be care about oppressed people and help them. As the Prophet says:

من اصبح و لم يهتم بامور المسلمين فليس بمسلم»

And

من سمع رجلاً ينادي يا للمسلمين فلم يجبه فليس بمسلم

Or Imam Ali (as) says:

كونوا للظالم خصماً و للمظلوم عوناً

Furthermore, the domain of non- Muslim over the Muslim isn’t allowed.

 Even regardless of religious views, it is the duty of every human to help others especially when they are oppressed.

 

 

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The Resistance Axis support for the Palestinians should be based on the principle of standing up to oppressors and supporting the oppressed. The liberation and well-being Palestine and Palestinian people are but important parts of this grand principle that transcends well beyond the Palestinian cause. The suffering of the Palestinians by the hands of the Israelis is very much related to the suffering of the Shi'a in "Saudi" Arabia by the House of Saudi, the Shi'a in Bahrain by the Khalifah dynasty, the Zaidis in Yemen by the Saudis and their puppets, the Hazaras in Afghanistan by the Taliban, the Shi'a in Pakistan by the Taliban and the multiple Wahhabi outfits there, the Shi'a and their allies in Nigeria by the government and Boko Haram, the sincere Muslims in Azerbaijan by the Aliyev regime, the Alevis in Turkey by an increasingly intolerant and chauvinistic Turkish society and government, the people of Iraq and Syria by the Daesh. .

The list goes on, but Zionism is at the head of it.

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^Why the cause of Bahrainis are not the cause of all Muslims? Or the Yemenis ?

In Palestine we have 'Palestinians" who are living there, and these creatures do not care or respect or value Shias aids or help or prayers! They are extremely anti-Shia, most of them are nationalist-Arabs and very ignorant. Hizbullah in Lebanon, a Shia group help them to the highest level but they stood against the group in all issues, in all countries, and in all political and physical wars... and sided with the Zionist puppets and Arab Sheikhdoms because of their so called Sunnism... Same when it comes to Iran and same when it comes to so called Alewite government of Basharul Assad.

Millions of oppressed more oppressed than Palestinians live and humiliated and massacred around the Muslim world... especially the Shias... why no one even question those? Why that is so normal to ppl? Where is your courage, Iman and bravery there?

Oppressed ppl of Palestine if they were for real, they wouldn't go in Syria, Iraq or elsewhere and kill fellow Muslims for sectarian reasons and even commit suicide bombings, while in their own occupied homeland, they throw stones and pull some knife games and stabbing a few children.

 

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16 hours ago, Noah- said:

^Why the cause of Bahrainis are not the cause of all Muslims? Or the Yemenis ?

In Palestine we have 'Palestinians" who are living there, and these creatures do not care or respect or value Shias aids or help or prayers! They are extremely anti-Shia, most of them are nationalist-Arabs and very ignorant. Hizbullah in Lebanon, a Shia group help them to the highest level but they stood against the group in all issues, in all countries, and in all political and physical wars... and sided with the Zionist puppets and Arab Sheikhdoms because of their so called Sunnism... Same when it comes to Iran and same when it comes to so called Alewite government of Basharul Assad.

Millions of oppressed more oppressed than Palestinians live and humiliated and massacred around the Muslim world... especially the Shias... why no one even question those? Why that is so normal to ppl? Where is your courage, Iman and bravery there?

Oppressed ppl of Palestine if they were for real, they wouldn't go in Syria, Iraq or elsewhere and kill fellow Muslims for sectarian reasons and even commit suicide bombings, while in their own occupied homeland, they throw stones and pull some knife games and stabbing a few children.

 

Its 2016, by now with all the things that have happened, you should know better than to think the "Palestinian" cause is about Palestinians.......

 

It never was about Palestinians, it was about stopping the Israeli oppression from expanding. Bahrain and Yemen are just after effects of Palestine, not parallel occasions. Any people or group replacing the Palestinians would be equally supported and should have been equally supported. 

 

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Oppressed ppl of Palestine if they were for real, they wouldn't go in Syria, Iraq or elsewhere and kill fellow Muslims for sectarian reasons and even commit suicide bombings, while in their own occupied homeland, they throw stones and pull some knife games and stabbing a few children.

They got you good with this one.........In this case, we shouldn't support Iraqis because there are Iraqis in syria fighting for ISIL too. This statement of yours is so academically and morally lacking substance that im beginning to think you have lost it completely. 

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^Nobody should ever help Iraqis who fight for ISIL.

And nobody is really helping the Iraqis who fight for ISIL, where did you get this from? Those who fight ISIL are being helped, they are mainly Shia militias, the government of Iraq, Kurdish fighters and a small number of Sunni Arabs belonging to tribes opposing ISIL. No idea how you gave this example that is making no sense.

Going back to your first statements, these are just some political statements that has nothing to do with moral or me being lost... I am not the leader of any political party and you are not Iranian FM or some kind of politician, THEN LETS BE REALISTIC on this forum for the sake of discussion. We shouldn't fool ourselves by ignoring 100s of other causes but just holding tied on one issue "Palestinian cause" and what not.

You like it or not, there is no such thing anymore as a 'just cause' for Palestine or the Palestinian cause. There are two camps for the last 10 yeas at least: The Saudi-extremist camp who nowadays after Syrian civil war includes all the secular, nationalist, anti-Shia, puppet states, and etc... mainly followers of Sunni Islam that for sure included all Palestinian groups including Hamas and Jihad who were on the payroll of Iran but sold themselves... and the second camp, the Shias alongside Iran and just a few minority groups here and there that could possibly include some Sunnis. If it is created by fitna or not, by Zionist agendas or not, by British secret services or not, but that is the reality on the ground... from Yemen to Bahrain, from Iraq to Lebanon and Syria.

Btw: there are 100s of groups and cities who face 100 x worse daily abuses than Palestinians but get no help be it from Islamic republic or from anybody around.. I can go around and repeat myself, but we all know the situation of and the conditions Shia minorities nowadays live in!

And: Can you see the real reason behind Lebanon's Hizbullah cancelling Quds Day this year for the first time for so called security reasons? Isn't it because the group was labeled as a 'terrorist' organization by Gulf and Arab states and no Palestinian group ever make a single statement condemning the declaration?  And all Palestinian groups repeatedly took side against them for the last 4 years?

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3 hours ago, Noah- said:

^Nobody should ever help Iraqis who fight for ISIL.

And nobody is really helping the Iraqis who fight for ISIL, where did you get this from? Those who fight ISIL are being helped, they are mainly Shia militias, the government of Iraq, Kurdish fighters and a small number of Sunni Arabs belonging to tribes opposing ISIL. No idea how you gave this example that is making no sense.

Going back to your first statements, these are just some political statements that has nothing to do with moral or me being lost... I am not the leader of any political party and you are not Iranian FM or some kind of politician, THEN LETS BE REALISTIC on this forum for the sake of discussion. We shouldn't fool ourselves by ignoring 100s of other causes but just holding tied on one issue "Palestinian cause" and what not.

You like it or not, there is no such thing anymore as a 'just cause' for Palestine or the Palestinian cause. There are two camps for the last 10 yeas at least: The Saudi-extremist camp who nowadays after Syrian civil war includes all the secular, nationalist, anti-Shia, puppet states, and etc... mainly followers of Sunni Islam that for sure included all Palestinian groups including Hamas and Jihad who were on the payroll of Iran but sold themselves... and the second camp, the Shias alongside Iran and just a few minority groups here and there that could possibly include some Sunnis. If it is created by fitna or not, by Zionist agendas or not, by British secret services or not, but that is the reality on the ground... from Yemen to Bahrain, from Iraq to Lebanon and Syria.

Btw: there are 100s of groups and cities who face 100 x worse daily abuses than Palestinians but get no help be it from Islamic republic or from anybody around.. I can go around and repeat myself, but we all know the situation of and the conditions Shia minorities nowadays live in!

And: Can you see the real reason behind Lebanon's Hizbullah cancelling Quds Day this year for the first time for so called security reasons? Isn't it because the group was labeled as a 'terrorist' organization by Gulf and Arab states and no Palestinian group ever make a single statement condemning the declaration?  And all Palestinian groups repeatedly took side against them for the last 4 years?

What in the world are you talkimg about? Read what i wrote properly. 

You said that palestinians move to Syria/Iraq to kill people. By this you meant they join ISIS. And you somehow figured that this was a good logic to use to not help Palestinians.

I said that by this logic, we shouldnt help Iraqis either because Iraqis also joined ISIS. Your logic is flawed.

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7 hours ago, repenter said:

What in the world are you talkimg about? Read what i wrote properly. 

You said that palestinians move to Syria/Iraq to kill people. By this you meant they join ISIS. And you somehow figured that this was a good logic to use to not help Palestinians.

I said that by this logic, we shouldnt help Iraqis either because Iraqis also joined ISIS. Your logic is flawed.

Well, I don't know what are you talking about? In Iraq there are those who joins ISIL but at the mean time there are SHIA groups, government, Shia or Kurdish population who fight and reject ISIL. The entire country is against terrorists and in the same camp of Shias and against those countries who aid Takfiris. How come and from what logical point of view you compare two different scenarios and totally two different worlds? 

Who in Palestine is equal to Shia groups, gov of Iraq, or Kurdish fighters?

Dont you even read the news that every single group and government in Palestine and most of the people are on the same side of Takfiris in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and they agreed in labeling Lebanese Hezbullah as a terrorist organization? Why dont you read properly and understand the situation in the ME properly?

You did not answer the question regarding the reason Hezbullah in Lebanon cancelling Quds Day public celebration for the first time this year?

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2 hours ago, Noah- said:

Well, I don't know what are you talking about? In Iraq there are those who joins ISIL but at the mean time there are SHIA groups, government, Shia or Kurdish population who fight and reject ISIL. The entire country is against terrorists and in the same camp of Shias and against those countries who aid Takfiris. How come and from what logical point of view you compare two different scenarios and totally two different worlds? 

Who in Palestine is equal to Shia groups, gov of Iraq, or Kurdish fighters?

Dont you even read the news that every single group and government in Palestine and most of the people are on the same side of Takfiris in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and they agreed in labeling Lebanese Hezbullah as a terrorist organization? Why dont you read properly and understand the situation in the ME properly?

You did not answer the question regarding the reason Hezbullah in Lebanon cancelling Quds Day public celebration for the first time this year?

Well i don't know how to better explain it to you, it's in plain english......

 

Regarding hezbollah, how can i comment when you call it "So called security threat"? If Nasrullah says it's a security threat, then a security threat it is, it's not exactly that he is known to be a liar. Heck even Israelli intelligence services trust what he says and take it as facts, good to see shias do the same :)......sigh. 

 

My point about Palestine and Palestinians never being the goal is mentioned by no other than Imam Khomeini himself at 00:45:

 

 

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