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Can Muslim Girl Marry Christian Man?

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Any scholar who say a Muslim woman can marry non Muslim man is heretic and may Allah curse him eternally. It is well established ruling in Islam , the basic and constant and unchanging Islam no matter what school you follow nor what age you looked into, that Muslim women must marry Muslim men. All those who went for other options are adulterous , non practicing Muslims and maybe even new agers rather than Muslims.

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Innovators are in hell fire. Innovating law is a ticket to hell.

If a scholar said pork is halal unconditionally then certainly he is innovator.

Those who say women can lead men in prayer are innovators.

Those who say Muslim can engage in homosexual activity legally are innovators.

Those who say women may not observe hijab are innovators.

This is our religion. It is imam Ali religion. I am Ali followed our prophet religion and didn't had a religion of his own ......what do you think Shia are? We are Muslims .

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If innovaters go to hell, then the majority of Muslims are going to hell. And if you were a Sunni saying that, then you'd be saying that Shia are going to hell.

Which is in my opinion, not how a just God would treat creation.

The reality is, neither of us are in a position to make such a claim. And quite frankly. Hellfire is a pretty intense punishment. I'd be ashamed of myself of I ever wished a muslimah to be sent to hell just for marrying someone she may have loved (who may be Christian).

With that, I suppose I'll move on from the convo now.

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If innovaters go to hell, then the majority of Muslims are going to hell. And if you were a Sunni saying that, then you'd be saying that Shia are going to hell.

Which is in my opinion, not how a just God would treat creation.

The reality is, neither of us are in a position to make such a claim. And quite frankly. Hellfire is a pretty intense punishment. I'd be ashamed of myself of I ever wished a muslimah to be sent to hell just for marrying someone she may have loved (who may be Christian).

With that, I suppose I'll move on from the convo now.

this is exactly why you are a christian or atheist and will never understand these things

see to you this life is a fun park, everyone can do everything, eat everything, drink everything and marry whoever they fall in "love" with , its all "heaven" 

and you are told in your religion "do whatever you like your sins are forgiven.." 

well the reality is that , it doesnt work like that, God created rules for everything 

however we have rules as well , except we have the free will to follow them or to ignore them and make up whatever conjecture and justification we like 

our freedom is also our curse, because we can easily end up in hell for eternity 

when God offered free will to the other creation they refused to accept that trust because it is a very difficult trust to burden 

but most people have completely forgone God and believe in things like "science" ahem ahem and until they wake up in the next life dead and imprisoned in hell fire for eternity 

you cant play the religion card now, and later on play the atheist card, both your cards are burned

love is a delusion especially when it takes you away from God 

and dont say something stupid like 'oh but God sent him in her life..." because that would mean ANYTHING that comes your way was intended for you to "enjoy"

which is exactly the attitude of the Christians and atheists of the world and hence why they will wake up in hell

we muslim we have principals, STRONG principals 

your lives today(Christians and atheists and whoever else) are about pornography, tv, food, lusts, "enjoying yourself"

well for the believer its imprisonment , its jihad al akbar, the fight with the self 

and if we live the way u live we have pretty much entered hell and cursed ourselves for eternity 

and any of us who want to be saved better take great head of that 

while you can go and enjoy your hell fire , we dont need it nor want it, God is not a joke we take His words seriously , unlike you Christians and Atheists and especially the Jews, they are the worst of everyone, even worse then Atheists 

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I have no idea why I am listed at liking the original post, and I certainly don't approve of Muslims women marrying non-Muslims (obviously).

 

With regards to the situation the original poster is in, I'd like to say that most people that become involved in romantic relationships think they are deeply in love, and many think they have found their 'soul mate', or such things. However, in practice we find that eventually these relationships often break up, and even in the relationships that survive, few people still see their partner in the same light as in the early years. It is also very common for a couple to be boyfriend-girlfriend for years (even more than a decade), to then get married, and divorce soon after (or have an affair, or whatever). All these things are widely known and experienced. The reason I mention this is because emotions give the impression that there is only one person that we would like to marry, but in fact this is an illusion. In reality, there are many people that would make suitable marriage partners, but you have to take all the factors into account when choosing.

 

On the other hand, many people tend to become more religious as they get older (particularly Muslims). And this is where certain major choices that have been made in their youth might start to affect them. A pious Muslims (whether male or female) would find it very difficult to be in a happy marriage with a non-Muslim. Allah says in the Qur'an:

وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ

And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me. [Qur'an 51:56, Shakir translation]

 

Well, if worship of Allah is the whole reason you were created, then why would you want to share your marriage (which in Islam is a major act of worship in itself) with someone who doesn't worship Allah? It's completely illogical.

 

Then there is the issue of children. At best they will be confused in regards to their religious identity, and may not become Muslims at all. Again, what sense does this make for a slave of Allah?

 

It is not recommended for men to marry non-Muslims either, but at least in their case, as head of the family, they have more chance of creating a somewhat Islamic environment within the household, and can more or less ensure their children are raised as Muslims. In the case of women, this is virtually impossible. Related to this are verses in the Qur'an that forbid taking non-Muslims as protectors.

 

لَّا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلَّا أَن تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ

 

Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming. [Qur'an 3:28, Shakir]

 

The believers should not make the disbelievers their allies rather than other believers- anyone who does such a thing will isolate himself completely from God- except when you need to protect yourselves from them. God warns you to beware of Him: the Final Return is to God. [Qur'an 3:28, Abdel Haleem]

 

In light of this verse, would it make sense to take an unbeliever as a husband, who is certainly an ally/friend?

 

The best thing to do would be to cut this person off, take some time to get over the heartache or guilt, spend some time remembering Allah, and then when the time comes (and it will, whatever you may think now), look for a suitable Muslim husband.

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It is not recommended for men to marry non-Muslims either, but at least in their case, as head of the family, they have more chance of creating a somewhat Islamic environment within the household, and can more or less ensure their children are raised as Muslims. In the case of women, this is virtually impossible. Related to this are verses in the Qur'an that forbid taking non-Muslims as protectors.

 

لَّا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلَّا أَن تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ

 

Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming. [Qur'an 3:28, Shakir]

 

The believers should not make the disbelievers their allies rather than other believers- anyone who does such a thing will isolate himself completely from God- except when you need to protect yourselves from them. God warns you to beware of Him: the Final Return is to God. [Qur'an 3:28, Abdel Haleem]

 

In light of this verse, would it make sense to take an unbeliever as a husband, who is certainly an ally/friend?

 

The best thing to do would be to cut this person off, take some time to get over the heartache or guilt, spend some time remembering Allah, and then when the time comes (and it will, whatever you may think now), look for a suitable Muslim husband.

I agree with most of your post. The last part I think the original context of the verse doesn't apply to your example. I believe the context of the verse is referring to the issue of the national security of the Islamic State.  Don't take non-believers as friends who are at war with Islam. Not every non-believing tom Richard and harry. 

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I agree with most of your post. The last part I think the original context of the verse doesn't apply to your example. I believe the context of the verse is referring to the issue of the national security of the Islamic State.  Don't take non-believers as friends who are at war with Islam. Not every non-believing tom Richard and harry.

There is always an original context to all Qur'anic verses, but they can also be general principles.

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What if a catholic man agrees to convert and practice Islam to marry a muslim woman? He would still believe in christianity, but he would also practice Islam and raise the children in the Islamic way. 

 

I would like your opinions.

 

(I'm sorry for my bad English)

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What if a catholic man agrees to convert and practice Islam to marry a muslim woman? He would still believe in christianity, but he would also practice Islam and raise the children in the Islamic way.

I would like your opinions.

(I'm sorry for my bad English)

So what you're saying is he would lie?

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The non-Muslim man must convert to Islam, if not sister you cannot have this man at all. It makes no sense to post this topic at all. You are under your father in Islam and a true Muslim father will never waive his rights of his daughter to a non-Muslim man for marriage. If that then guaranteed the marriage is baatil. Also it's a bloodline thing as the religion and clan is passed through the father and husband/father is head of the household. The children belong to the father's religion, the father's country, and the father's family. Please save yourself the trouble from a baatil marriage and baatil children.

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Salam

 

1. َMaking sure of the authenticity of an Islamic rule (which is obtained by referring to an Islamic expert) is enough for obeying, although we never find the reasons behind that rule.

 

2. In the verse 51 of Surah Al-e-Imran, Allah says: ان الله ربی و ربکم فاعبدوه هذا صراط مستقیم " Indeed Allah is my Lord and your Lord so worship him. This is a straight path."

 

There is no doubt that disobeying Allah's commands is not worshipping Him. The story of Satan and Adam is actually happening everyday since many people are reluctant to obey certain rules just because they find them unreasonable or against their desires:

 

"قال ما منعک ان لا تسجد اذ امرتک قال انا خیر منه خلقتنی من نار و خلقته من طین"

 

Said He: "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you", "I am better than him" he said, "you created me from fire and you created him from clay"

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Isn't a Nikah with Ahle Kitab valid ?

 

Let me reply which the other respectable members have given again and again in this thread.

 

1. A muslm man can marry Nikkah e Mutah (temporary marriage) with Ahl e Kitab non muslim (like Christians and Jews). However, he can not enter into permanent marriage with her (according to many Shia scholars).

 

2. A muslim woman can never enter into Nikkah e Muttah (temporary marriage) or Nikkah e Daimi (permanent marriage) according to major Shia scholars.

 

I think it is clear now.

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