Yu-Gi-Oh! And Dajjal

[Mithrandir]

(salam) 

 

If you were into trading card games as a child, then chances are you've played Yu-G-Oh! When I was in the second grade, Yu-Gi-Oh! was all the rage. All my friends played it, in addition to watching the anime, and I soon joined the trend. However, I never got around to watching the anime. Now, ten years later, I finally decided to watch the show.

 

What I saw unnerved me.

 

The show is filled with Dajjalic symbolism. The creators seemed to have had a fascination with Ancient Egyptian symbolism. The main character walks around with a trinket that has a One-eye engraved in it. Only a blind person would miss it. This trinket transforms Yu GI into a gambling master, with an Egyptian One Eye glowing on his forehead. Apparently, this gambling alter ego is actually the wandering spirit of an "unknown Pharaoh".

 

I don't think this is a coincidence. The cult of the One Eye has started to appear everywhere. I never expected to see it in anime as well.

 

What are your thoughts on it?

 

Salam.

[alirex]

When ISIS can fascinate people what is big if they are fascinated by Dajjal. :shaytan:

[hasanhh]

(salam)

 

Gambling is a "some how, maybe, something for little/ante-up".

 

As to the Dajjal, he will be worse than :shaytan: s , and no symbol by Man can approach that.

[Saintly_Jinn23]

It's a cartoon, bro. If you know anything about Japanese manga and anime creators, you'd know they have a habit of just taking symbolism and stuff that just looks "cool." So in video games, anime and manga, you'll often see names, places, and concepts from Christian Gnosticism, Catholicism, Kabbalism, Ancient Egyptian mythology and other magic lore.

 

Neon Genesis Evangelion is one highly influential anime that is loaded with Jewish and Christian symbolism, but the creator, Hideaki Anno (who's kind of an oddball to say the least) once mentioned that he mainly chose the name "Evangelion" because it "sounded complicated."

 

Sometimes Japanese take stuff from religious lore in jest. For example, one series that came out not too long ago was a show called "The Devil is a Part Timer" which follows the story of the demon Satan who is transported from his world of magic and angels into our world and gets a job at a rip-off of McDonald's while living in a [Edited Out]py apartment with his demon friends.

 

And there are plenty of other anime which either use religious lore for the sake of humor or to create fantasy or sci-fi stories. Trinity Blood, a popular series about vampire hunters, has a fictionalized version of the Catholic Church as the affiliation of the protagonists. Hellsing, likewise, features Nazi vampires and the Prince of Darkness, Count Dracula, being the hunting dog of the Anglican Church. You can also see a lot of the Buddhist and Shinto influence in classic series like Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragonball. And even a more recent popular series in Japan, Rage of Bahamut: Genesis, features characters with names like Michael, Azazel, Cerberus, Lucifer, Satan, Zeus, etc. Witch Hunter Robin, another series, deals with a Witch in service to the Catholic Church whose job it is to...hunt witches. And I could go on for hours listing others.

 

Even in popular video games like Final Fantasy, the religious symbolism and themes are prevalent and in some cases, express what could be seen as anti-religious views since in some entries in the series, the main antagonists are allusions to the Christian church or God. Likewise, a game called "Asura's Wrath" draws heavily on Hindu, Buddhist and Asian lore to create a story about a demigod named Asura (after the angry entities in Hinduism) fighting against his fellow demigods and eventually kiils "The Creator" himself in order to save his daughter.

 

As to the eye you mentioned, this is called the "Eye of Providence" and is a very ancient symbol that can be seen appearing all the way back to Ancient Egypt. However, in its Abrahamic context, the Eye of Providence surrounded by light symbolizes God watching over humanity. In other words, it's supposed to be a good thing. It even appears in the Armenian Christian painter Hakob Hovnatanian's famous portrait of Imam Ali (pbuh):

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

Edited November 30, 2014 by Saintly_Jinn23

[godzapostle]

Don't you know that shias are an Illuminati invention to wipe out the sunnah?

This is all nonsense. The enemies of humanity are out in the open and are not hiding behind symbolism. What are you going to do about it?

[Mithrandir]

It's a cartoon, bro. If you know anything about Japanese manga and anime creators, you'd know they have a habit of just taking symbolism and stuff that just looks "cool." So in video games, anime and manga, you'll often see names, places, and concepts from Christian Gnosticism, Catholicism, Kabbalism, Ancient Egyptian mythology and other magic lore.

 

Neon Genesis Evangelion is one highly influential anime that is loaded with Jewish and Christian symbolism, but the creator, Hideaki Anno (who's kind of an oddball to say the least) once mentioned that he mainly chose the name "Evangelion" because it "sounded complicated."

 

Sometimes Japanese take stuff from religious lore in jest. For example, one series that came out not too long ago was a show called "The Devil is a Part Timer" which follows the story of the demon Satan who is transported from his world of magic and angels into our world and gets a job at a rip-off of McDonald's while living in a [Edited Out]py apartment with his demon friends.

 

And there are plenty of other anime which either use religious lore for the sake of humor or to create fantasy or sci-fi stories. Trinity Blood, a popular series about vampire hunters, has a fictionalized version of the Catholic Church as the affiliation of the protagonists. Hellsing, likewise, features Nazi vampires and the Prince of Darkness, Count Dracula, being the hunting dog of the Anglican Church. You can also see a lot of the Buddhist and Shinto influence in classic series like Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragonball. And even a more recent popular series in Japan, Rage of Bahamut: Genesis, features characters with names like Michael, Azazel, Cerberus, Lucifer, Satan, Zeus, etc. Witch Hunter Robin, another series, deals with a Witch in service to the Catholic Church whose job it is to...hunt witches. And I could go on for hours listing others.

 

Even in popular video games like Final Fantasy, the religious symbolism and themes are prevalent and in some cases, express what could be seen as anti-religious views since in some entries in the series, the main antagonists are allusions to the Christian church or God. Likewise, a game called "Asura's Wrath" draws heavily on Hindu, Buddhist and Asian lore to create a story about a demigod named Asura (after the angry entities in Hinduism) fighting against his fellow demigods and eventually kiils "The Creator" himself in order to save his daughter.

 

As to the eye you mentioned, this is called the "Eye of Providence" and is a very ancient symbol that can be seen appearing all the way back to Ancient Egypt. However, in its Abrahamic context, the Eye of Providence surrounded by light symbolizes God watching over humanity. In other words, it's supposed to be a good thing. It even appears in the Armenian Christian painter Hakob Hovnatanian's famous portrait of Imam Ali (pbuh):

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

Hamza Yusuf discusses the eye in detail here.

 

[hasanhh]

(salam)

 

Saintly Jinn: one Japanese jest was in 1945 or 1946. They held a Christmas parade and had Santa Claus on a crucifix. No joke.

[:Sami II]

It's a cartoon, bro. If you know anything about Japanese manga and anime creators, you'd know they have a habit of just taking symbolism and stuff that just looks "cool." So in video games, anime and manga, you'll often see names, places, and concepts from Christian Gnosticism, Catholicism, Kabbalism, Ancient Egyptian mythology and other magic lore.

 

Neon Genesis Evangelion is one highly influential anime that is loaded with Jewish and Christian symbolism, but the creator, Hideaki Anno (who's kind of an oddball to say the least) once mentioned that he mainly chose the name "Evangelion" because it "sounded complicated."

 

Sometimes Japanese take stuff from religious lore in jest. For example, one series that came out not too long ago was a show called "The Devil is a Part Timer" which follows the story of the demon Satan who is transported from his world of magic and angels into our world and gets a job at a rip-off of McDonald's while living in a [Edited Out]py apartment with his demon friends.

 

And there are plenty of other anime which either use religious lore for the sake of humor or to create fantasy or sci-fi stories. Trinity Blood, a popular series about vampire hunters, has a fictionalized version of the Catholic Church as the affiliation of the protagonists. Hellsing, likewise, features Nazi vampires and the Prince of Darkness, Count Dracula, being the hunting dog of the Anglican Church. You can also see a lot of the Buddhist and Shinto influence in classic series like Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragonball. And even a more recent popular series in Japan, Rage of Bahamut: Genesis, features characters with names like Michael, Azazel, Cerberus, Lucifer, Satan, Zeus, etc. Witch Hunter Robin, another series, deals with a Witch in service to the Catholic Church whose job it is to...hunt witches. And I could go on for hours listing others.

 

Even in popular video games like Final Fantasy, the religious symbolism and themes are prevalent and in some cases, express what could be seen as anti-religious views since in some entries in the series, the main antagonists are allusions to the Christian church or God. Likewise, a game called "Asura's Wrath" draws heavily on Hindu, Buddhist and Asian lore to create a story about a demigod named Asura (after the angry entities in Hinduism) fighting against his fellow demigods and eventually kiils "The Creator" himself in order to save his daughter.

 

As to the eye you mentioned, this is called the "Eye of Providence" and is a very ancient symbol that can be seen appearing all the way back to Ancient Egypt. However, in its Abrahamic context, the Eye of Providence surrounded by light symbolizes God watching over humanity. In other words, it's supposed to be a good thing. It even appears in the Armenian Christian painter Hakob Hovnatanian's famous portrait of Imam Ali (pbuh):

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

Saintly Jinn , you are really into your mystery school symbolism, perhaps you don't see anything wrong in communicating with :Jinns.

But I like to remind our esteemed bothers and sisters here that such symbolism is used by certain secret societies to communicate with their masters , namely  :Iblees and his associates.

:islam tells us to keep away from such things.

The games , movies , music , shows , clothing and even the painting is far from harmless and innocent.

I see the portrait of my beloved :Imam-Ali  (as) as an insult by a misguided fool whose too much caught up in the satanic symbolism that my great :Imam  (as) is far from and has warned us never to associate with.

The eye of Horus , the pyramid , the olive wreath held by 2 female jinns ( blue wings ) , the eight flowers ( the eight pointed star ) , the sun , the hand signals ( one pointing up the other down whilst showing  the 666) , the 3 pillars on each side , the black and white checks is a far cry from :Islam.

You think you just walked into a masonic lodge.

I hope you don't find the virgin sacrifices as harmless too.

 

 

ws

[Saintly_Jinn23]

But I like to remind our esteemed bothers and sisters here that such symbolism is used by certain secret societies to communicate with their masters , namely  :Iblees and his associates.

 

You have no proof of such claims and are only repeating conspiracy theories you've read on the internet based on books with laughable credentials.

 

 

The games , movies , music , shows , clothing and even the painting is far from harmless and innocent.

 

We can argue about whether or not kids should watch cartoons that draw from pagan mythology or feature demons and witchcraft until we're blue in the face, but to act as though the creative decisions of some eccentric Japanese writers and directors is part of some vast international conspiracy by the Illuminati is ridiculous and based mostly on fear and conjecture.

 

 

I see the portrait of my beloved :Imam-Ali  (as) as an insult by a misguided fool whose too much caught up in the satanic symbolism that my great :Imam  (as) is far from and has warned us never to associate with.

 

You can't prove any of the imagery in the picture is Satanic. It's just your own conjecture and paranoia as well as your ignorance of the history of religious symbolism.

 

 

The eye of Horus

 

Again, the context of the eye is very different in the picture in question due to content of the picture itself and the religious persuasion of the painter. Symbols can change their meaning when put in the hands of different people. The crescent moon is a good example since as a symbol it appears in pre-Islamic Persia and Mesopotamia, but is later taken as the de facto emblem of the Islamic faith due to its adoption by the Ottoman Empire. What means one thing to one generation can mean another thing to another generation. A lot of the religious symbols of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have histories like that. Also, some symbols are perennial and timeless where cultures that never had any historical contact with one another often generate the same symbols due to these symbols being products of a similar religious consciousness. That's also why Christians and Muslims did not always feel no problem even openly adopting the symbols of previous cultures because in some cases, they recognized the same symbol as holy for different reasons or felt that God himself had sanctified them.

 

 

the pyramid

 

Well, next time I draw a triangle on a piece of paper, I better be careful that I'm not accidentally worshiping the devil

 

 

 the olive wreath held by 2 female jinns ( blue wings )

 

They're intended to be angels, or are you just pretending that you're clueless?

 

But even if they were female djinn, what does that matter? It's quite clear in the Qur'an not all djinn are evil.

 

 

 

 the eight flowers ( the eight pointed star )

 

You mean the same star that you see in the architecture of almost every mosque from the classical Islamic period? I know, quite a shock.

 

the sun

 

Oh, no, not the sun! Anything but the sun! /sarcasm

 

the hand signals ( one pointing up the other down whilst showing  the 666)

 

You're joking, right.

 

the 3 pillars on each side

 

Means nothing. It's called symmetry as a matter of fact.

 

The black and white checks is a far cry from :Islam

 

Right, cause you're clearly the expert here on what colors are Islamic, right?

 

You think you just walked into a masonic lodge.

 

I live near a Masonic lodge. I've talked with Masons. I was even given a tour of the lodge once. Believe it or not, most of them are very nice people that you have no reason to be afraid of at all. Does that mean that everything they teach is right or that the hands of the leadership must be squeaky clean. Of course not, no more than I think there's corruption in the Catholic Church, but that most priests and Catholics aren't bad people. But much of Masonic symbolism is drawn from traditional world religions, including Islamic symbolism. They even publish their own edition of the Holy Bible and most Masons identify as either Deists or some denomination of Christian, though discussions of religion and politics aren't allowed in the official meetings. I believe most of the conspiracy theories surrounding them which accuse them of Satanism and sacrificing babies are nonsense, made up mostly by Evangelical Christians to scare their flocks into believing the devil is right next door. And I find it extremely embarrassing that Muslims have taken to blindly repeating such conspiracy theories to the point where they ignore obvious facts because they desperately need to believe they are true for some reason. But Masons are more humanist than Satanist.

Edited November 30, 2014 by Saintly_Jinn23

[StrugglingForTheLight]

Freemasons historically have been a powerful society for democracy and human rights. They also do charities. They have their enlightenment perspective as well. They are like any group coming together, not bad people.

 

Freemasons are not an evil cult of people. Everyone can join. They keep some of their teachings secret because they like their followers to go through stages of enlightenment. It has nothing to do with jinn and secret world government.

[Saintly_Jinn23]

Freemasons historically have been a powerful society for democracy and human rights. They also do charities. They have their enlightenment perspective as well. They are like any group coming together, not bad people.

 

Freemasons are not an evil cult of people. Everyone can join. They keep some of their teachings secret because they like their followers to go through stages of enlightenment. It has nothing to do with jinn and secret world government.

 

 

You see the same thing with some of the Sufi orders. It's not really all that different. The one difference is that Masons attract a few more wealthy and powerful individuals and tend to have more agnostic or humanist bent that allows anyone of almost any religion or lack thereof to join.

 

It arose out of the artisan guilds and mystical orders of Europe, so it naturally has that aura of secrecy or quietism designed to ensure the protection of certain teachings.

 

Based on what I know of their beliefs and structure, I could never join, and I also don't think Masonry is as old as Masons like to believe it is, but I don't like a lot of the conspiracy theories and wild accusations that are based on solely on a fear that who they present themselves to be is not who they really are because it reminds me of a lot of the conspiracy theories Sunnis and Wahabis tell about us. In fact, the common accusation I hear is that Shi'ism was created by Jewish Freemasons. :donno:

[:Sami II]

You have no proof of such claims and are only repeating conspiracy theories you've read on the internet based on books with laughable credentials.

 

 

 

We can argue about whether or not kids should watch cartoons that draw from pagan mythology or feature demons and witchcraft until we're blue in the face, but to act as though the creative decisions of some eccentric Japanese writers and directors is part of some vast international conspiracy by the Illuminati is ridiculous and based mostly on fear and conjecture.

 

 

 

You can't prove any of the imagery in the picture is Satanic. It's just your own conjecture and paranoia as well as your ignorance of the history of religious symbolism.

 

 

 

Again, the context of the eye is very different in the picture in question due to content of the picture itself and the religious persuasion of the painter. Symbols can change their meaning when put in the hands of different people. The crescent moon is a good example since as a symbol it appears in pre-Islamic Persia and Mesopotamia, but is later taken as the de facto emblem of the Islamic faith due to its adoption by the Ottoman Empire. What means one thing to one generation can mean another thing to another generation. A lot of the religious symbols of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have histories like that. Also, some symbols are perennial and timeless where cultures that never had any historical contact with one another often generate the same symbols due to these symbols being products of a similar religious consciousness. That's also why Christians and Muslims did not always feel no problem even openly adopting the symbols of previous cultures because in some cases, they recognized the same symbol as holy for different reasons or felt that God himself had sanctified them.

 

 

 

Well, next time I draw a triangle on a piece of paper, I better be careful that I'm not accidentally worshiping the devil

 

 

 

They're intended to be angels, or are you just pretending that you're clueless?

 

But even if they were female djinn, what does that matter? It's quite clear in the Qur'an not all djinn are evil.

 

 

 

You mean the same star that you see in the architecture of almost every mosque from the classical Islamic period? I know, quite a shock.

 

 

Oh, no, not the sun! Anything but the sun! /sarcasm

 

 

You're joking, right.

 

 

Means nothing. It's called symmetry as a matter of fact.

 

 

Right, cause you're clearly the expert here on what colors are Islamic, right?

 

 

I live near a Masonic lodge. I've talked with Masons. I was even given a tour of the lodge once. Believe it or not, most of them are very nice people that you have no reason to be afraid of at all. Does that mean that everything they teach is right or that the hands of the leadership must be squeaky clean. Of course not, no more than I think there's corruption in the Catholic Church, but that most priests and Catholics aren't bad people. But much of Masonic symbolism is drawn from traditional world religions, including Islamic symbolism. They even publish their own edition of the Holy Bible and most Masons identify as either Deists or some denomination of Christian, though discussions of religion and politics aren't allowed in the official meetings. I believe most of the conspiracy theories surrounding them which accuse them of Satanism and sacrificing babies are nonsense, made up mostly by Evangelical Christians to scare their flocks into believing the devil is right next door. And I find it extremely embarrassing that Muslims have taken to blindly repeating such conspiracy theories to the point where they ignore obvious facts because they desperately need to believe they are true for some reason. But Masons are more humanist than Satanist.

Sounds like you have been well versed with the PR psyops guide to free masonry and occultism done by the lower agree mason for the ignorant masses.

When you are ready and are really interested in the truth and what the higher degree ones get up to behind closed doors ,you're welcome  read my many previous posts, but like most you will not.

I'm only here to tell those that want the truth to not seek in these satanic organisations.

:Shia is enough and the only truth , and our beloved :Rasool  (as)  and our magnificent :Imams  (as) are the only holders of true hidden knowledge.

 

:Inshallah :Al-Hujjat  (as) will reveal all of it soon . ( and what a conspiracy theory that is considered by most )

Freemasons historically have been a powerful society for democracy and human rights. They also do charities. They have their enlightenment perspective as well. They are like any group coming together, not bad people.

 

Freemasons are not an evil cult of people. Everyone can join. They keep some of their teachings secret because they like their followers to go through stages of enlightenment. It has nothing to do with jinn and secret world government.

they said the same thing about the Nazis once upon a time , those cute little nazi girls handing out cookies and promoting their humanists agendas.

god love 'em .

Edited December 1, 2014 by :Sami II

[Saintly_Jinn23]

Sounds like you have been well versed with the PR psyops guide to free masonry and occultism done by the lower agree mason for the ignorant masses.

When you are ready and are really interested in the truth and what the higher degree ones get up to behind closed doors ,you're welcome  read my many previous posts, but like most you will not.

 

Probably not, because I think you're full of it and probably don't know what lower degree masons do, let alone what higher ones do and like I said, what higher degree masons do shouldn't reflect on the lower degree ones who for the most part are normal people.

 

 

I'm only here to tell those that want the truth to not seek in these satanic organisations.

 

While I agree that one who is interested in spirituality shouldn't seek it with the Freemasons, I only object to calling them satanic since most Freemasons don't fit the bill. What the highest degrees do or think is not really relevant if it doesn't reflect on the beliefs and actions of the lower. That's like blaming ordinary Catholics for what a few cardinals say or do behind closed doors that contradicts the morals and beliefs of the average Catholic.

 

 

:Shia is enough and the only truth , and our beloved :Rasool  (as)  and our magnificent :Imams  (as) are the only holders of true hidden knowledge.

 

Agreed. Did you think I said otherwise or are you just trying to act like your better and more Muslim than me because I don't throw accusations of Satanism at people and things I don't understand?

 

 

they said the same thing about the Nazis once upon a time , those cute little nazi girls handing out cookies and promoting their humanists agendas.

god love them .

 

That's a disingenuous comparison. I could say the same thing about any group I find suspicious. Heck, the anti-Muslim right compare Muslims to Nazis in the same manner, just swap Freemason for Muslim.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Saintly_Jinn23

[Mithrandir]

As for the eye of horus/providence, Hamza Yusuf discussed it in good detail in the video I posted. Start watching it from 50 minute mark, cus its really long otherwise. His other--more recent--lecture on Occult in pop culture is another really useful video.

As for why he thinks the eye is a symbol of the end times, he uses a linguistic approach to the word "dajjal."

Pretty interesting stuff.

P.s. Most Sufi sheikhs I know have advised to stay away from the freemasons. Be that is it may, I'd rather keep my distance.

Salam.

[Saintly_Jinn23]

As for the eye of horus/providence, Hamza Yusuf discussed it in good detail in the video I posted. Start watching it from 50 minute mark, cus its really long otherwise. His other--more recent--lecture on Occult in pop culture is another really useful video.

As for why he thinks the eye is a symbol of the end times, he uses a linguistic approach to the word "dajjal."

Pretty interesting stuff.

 

I'll check them out because I normally respect Hamza Yusuf's opinions.

 

My only issue, however, is the idea that these symbols are necessarily "Satanic" and imply an evil or nefarious agenda of the people who use them either in their rituals or artwork. Again, the issue of magic or monsters in movies, comics, anime etc. is a different matter, but to blame all these things on a Zionist-Masonic-Illuminati conspiracy is just ridiculous especially when there are simpler and more plausible explanations.

 

I think that demonstrates more of a paranoia and misunderstanding of their actual history. Most of the symbols groups like the Freemasons use are older than Masonry itself and one of the reasons Masons like them is because it helps breathe a sense of legitimacy, like the order is connected to the wisdom of the ancients.

 

Even some of the symbols we most associate with the "occult" are not really negative, but are based on stereotypes in popular fiction and movies. Even the term "occult" has become almost like a swear word when all it means is "hidden."

 

I don't think such views help us to better understand groups like the Masons and thus make it more difficult for us to argue against them and possibly lead people away from such illegitimate groups.

 

 

P.s. Most Sufi sheikhs I know have advised to stay away from the freemasons. Be that is it may, I'd rather keep my distance.

Salam.

 

A good essay dealing with the false claims of Masons and Shriners to the heritage of Islamic mysticism is "Painting Coal Gold" by Muhammad al-Ahari. It shows how some Masons have attempted to adopt Islamic Sufi or Shi'ite ideas and have even presented themselves as legitimate purveyors of Islamic mysticism to those who are ignorant.

 

Be that as it may though, we have to be fair and just in dealing with such groups and not spread propaganda born out of fear or misunderstandings, lest we start "spotting" Masonic or Satanic influence where there is in fact none.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Saintly_Jinn23

[:Sami II]

Probably not, because I think you're full of it and probably don't know what lower degree masons do, let alone what higher ones do and like I said, what higher degree masons do shouldn't reflect on the lower degree ones who for the most part are normal people.

 

 

 

While I agree that one who is interested in spirituality shouldn't seek it with the Freemasons, I only object to calling them satanic since most Freemasons don't fit the bill. What the highest degrees do or think is not really relevant if it doesn't reflect on the beliefs and actions of the lower. That's like blaming ordinary Catholics for what a few cardinals say or do behind closed doors that contradicts the morals and beliefs of the average Catholic.

 

 

 

Agreed. Did you think I said otherwise or are you just trying to act like your better and more Muslim than me because I don't throw accusations of Satanism at people and things I don't understand?

 

 

 

That's a disingenuous comparison. I could say the same thing about any group I find suspicious. Heck, the anti-Muslim right compare Muslims to Nazis in the same manner, just swap Freemason for Muslim.

yep , pretty mainstream mate .your truth like many others is far from what I've seen and witnessed in my last 60 years .

[Saintly_Jinn23]

yep , pretty mainstream mate .your truth like many others is far from what I've seen and witnessed in my last 60 years .

 

Typical conspiracy theorist. Deflect the argument and run away yelling about how you're so much more red-pilled than everyone else.

[:Sami II]

Typical conspiracy theorist. Deflect the argument and run away yelling about how you're so much more red-pilled than everyone else.

better then your blue pill overdose  , mine was organic  btw