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(Salam)

No, they are not but because of how hard they refuted Toyib on Facebook he wants to vent his anger with these lies. Also what are these 60 or so pages compared to the 1000 of Sheikh Yasser al Habibs 'Al Fahisha the other face of Aisha.' If he really wants to refute the so called yasiri claims then he should have attempted to refute that.

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This book of ours directly addresses three of the most notorious Yāsirī allegations against Umm al-Mūminīn ‘Āishah: the claim that she murdered the Prophet, the claim that she was an adulteress and (3) the claim that she was divorced by Amīr al-Mūminīn, ‘alaihi al-salām, on behalf of the Prophet, ṣallallāhu ‘alaihi wa ālihi. We must stress here that this research work is NOT a defence of ‘Āishah per se – as Yāsirīs are wont to falsely claim - nor is it a demonstration of “love” for her. Rather, it is a defence of the Twelve Imāms of the Ahl al-Bayt, ‘alaihim al-salām, from certain slanders that the Yāsirī leader and his followers wrongly attribute to them. It is the sacred duty of every able Shī’ī to clear the name of the Imāms from every falsehood, as much as he can. This is what this author is doing in this book, with the Grace of Allāh the Almighty. Ours is not the first effort in this regard – even with specific reference to Yāsirī slanders – and it will also not be the last inshā Allāh.

You can buy this book on Amazon or download from Archive.

1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1502876647?ie=UTF8&at&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

2. https://archive.org/details/AishahAndTheSlanders

P.S. It doesn't mean that I agree with all of brother Toyib has written. So, please don't attack personally me or Toyib. It is a quiet interesting book with logical proofs. If anybody has opposite idea and proofs, please share.

So I guess yassir al habib and his minions wrote tafsir ayyashi and tafsir qummi centuries ago?

Since all of these allegations are brought before him as if they were his invention?

Where is your logic people?? Or do you not read our books? Ormaybe your ashamed of what's in our books?

Nothing is holding you back from joining the opposing sect.. nothing...

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So aisha aND Talha went to war togather to claim caliphate aND we are to believe there was nothing between them lol why do u think zubair left without fighting he probably realized belatedly that in a kingdom of King Talha and queen aisha there,was no place for him

Brother macissac posted something to that effect yrs ago I remember

Funny how shias now falling over themselves to defend aisha for sake of political correctness ! Quran exonerated her for that particular case of adultery it did not give her a license of infallibility. ..for all we know she committed 10000 acts of adultery ...only God knows better

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(salam)

No, they are not but because of how hard they refuted Toyib on Facebook he wants to vent his anger with these lies. Also what are these 60 or so pages compared to the 1000 of Sheikh Yasser al Habibs 'Al Fahisha the other face of Aisha.' If he really wants to refute the so called yasiri claims then he should have attempted to refute that.

 

Is a translation available for that book of Yassir's at least in parts, so that we could look at what he has to say about her?

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I think theres a project taking place now where some brothers are translating it but this is possibly heresay. At the moment, the book is only available in Arabic. Even though I havent personally read it, some of the brothers who have said that all the points Toyib raised have already been refuted within the book.

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Hi,

 

The book of the safawi Yassir "al-habib" (I think if I say a bad word against this *bip*, they can ban me) is eloquent (I mean the style, not the content a`udubillah mina shaytan) and very hard. I mean his Arabic is too hard for a translation. However, I know some great `ulama who are refuting his book al-hamdoulillah. I'm waiting to read the refutation. 

 

I have his book.

 

Besides, I read the book of sir. Toyib. I think, it's not a book but a booklet; I laughed a lot while reading his book[let]. There is nothing academic, lot of attacks (argumentum ad personam) and no academic tahqiq. 

But I suggest the rafidha to read the last part about `Aisha. You will open your eyes and see that even for the enemies of the Sunnah, she has a certain rank. It's not like the safawi al-rafidhi the extremist al-Majlisi who said that `Aisha is a hypocrite. أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم

Sincerely,



 

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Hi,

The book of the safawi Yassir "al-habib" (I think if I say a bad word against this *bip*, they can ban me) is eloquent (I mean the style, not the content a`udubillah mina shaytan) and very hard. I mean his Arabic is too hard for a translation. However, I know some great `ulama who are refuting his book al-hamdoulillah. I'm waiting to read the refutation.

I have his book.

Besides, I read the book of sir. Toyib. I think, it's not a book but a booklet; I laughed a lot while reading his book[let]. There is nothing academic, lot of attacks (argumentum ad personam) and no academic tahqiq.

But I suggest the rafidha to read the last part about `Aisha. You will open your eyes and see that even for the enemies of the Sunnah, she has a certain rank. It's not like the safawi al-rafidhi the extremist al-Majlisi who said that `Aisha is a hypocrite. أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم

Sincerely,

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More than half this site hates the man, so I'm sure you can say what you want...

You can't blaspheme sahaba or wives or marja etc.. even fuqaha of opposing sect can't be bad mouthed, some one got banned for bad mouthing ibn hajar asqalani..

But people can bad mouth the "supposed" ghulat and early important leaders of tashayyu..

Wow, the irony... so jump on the band-wagon with every other muqassir

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Watch the language, please. We don't like to see people using words like idiot, jahil, muqassir, etc. 

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Watch the language, please. We don't like to see people using words like idiot, jahil, muqassir, etc.

I respect that because your a mod, but we have had at least 5 threads in the past called "muqassir"

So how is this a disrespectful word???

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Hi,

 

The book of the safawi Yassir "al-habib" (I think if I say a bad word against this *bip*, they can ban me) is eloquent (I mean the style, not the content a`udubillah mina shaytan) and very hard. I mean his Arabic is too hard for a translation. However, I know some great `ulama who are refuting his book al-hamdoulillah. I'm waiting to read the refutation. 

 

I have his book.

 

Besides, I read the book of sir. Toyib. I think, it's not a book but a booklet; I laughed a lot while reading his book[let]. There is nothing academic, lot of attacks (argumentum ad personam) and no academic tahqiq. 

But I suggest the rafidha to read the last part about `Aisha. You will open your eyes and see that even for the enemies of the Sunnah, she has a certain rank. It's not like the safawi al-rafidhi the extremist al-Majlisi who said that `Aisha is a hypocrite. أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم

Sincerely,

 

 

Just a question purely out of curiousity. You call numerous of our scholars Safawi Rafidhis going as far back as to Allama Majlisi (May Allah raise him 70 Darajat every time he cursed Jibt and Taghoot, as our Imams say the darajat of one is raised after cursing those two), so my question is about Sheikh Abu Salah Al-Halabi (ar). He exposed the disbelievers in Allah and oppressors of Aal Muhammad (as), Jibt and Taghoot, in his book Taqrib Al-Ma'arif through the narrations of our Imams (as) but predated the Safawi empire, what type of Rafidhi is he?

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I respect that because your a mod, but we have had at least 5 threads in the past called "muqassir"

So how is this a disrespectful word???

 

ShiaChat has discussed scholars who could be considered a muqassir, but it was in an academic manner. We should not try to humiliate another member by calling them a name.

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ShiaChat has discussed scholars who could be considered a muqassir, but it was in an academic manner. We should not try to humiliate another member by calling them a name.

I see your point, please pm my warnings if any?

Thankyou,

Aziz

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So aisha aND Talha went to war togather to claim caliphate aND we are to believe there was nothing between them lol why do u think zubair left without fighting he probably realized belatedly that in a kingdom of King Talha and queen aisha there,was no place for him

Brother macissac posted something to that effect yrs ago I remember

Funny how shias now falling over themselves to defend aisha for sake of political correctness ! Quran exonerated her for that particular case of adultery it did not give her a license of infallibility. ..for all we know she committed 10000 acts of adultery ...only God knows better

You serious? 10,000 acts of adultery?! I acccept the criticism for her role against Ali but adultery? C'mon, she never got pregnant and there wasnt any contraceptives or anything at that time.

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You serious? 10,000 acts of adultery?! I acccept the criticism for her role against Ali but adultery? C'mon, she never got pregnant and there wasnt any contraceptives or anything at that time.

Some narrations mention a still-born by the name abdullah

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"Some narrations" which are probably not accepted by most people as authentic is a shaky logic.Slandering anyone of anything is a serious crime.

And dont take this as a form of "hero worship" for aisha. I often criticize her to my sunni brothers about the some of the things which she said about Muhammad(S). Many of them can be classified as slander. She attested that she was jealous of Khadija.

I can accept fair criticism which i have just pointed out but vilifying or slandering anybody(not only Sahaba) is a dirty act especially in this context.

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She committed 10000 acts of adultery ... 

 

Nonsense ! Pure nonsense !

 

Not even once.

 

Please show some respect.

 

After all, she was one of the Prophet's wives.

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Nonsense ! Pure nonsense !

 

Not even once.

 

Please show some respect.

 

After all, she was one of the Prophet's wives.

Should we have respect for the prophets wife qutayla bint qays al kindiyyah?

After all she rejected his prophethood and married ikramah ibn abi jahl...

Tafsir qummi points out clear adultery for fulana!

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When u guys are writing about the adultery of the prophet's saas wife,do u realize that u dishonour him?

We are talking about the greatest human of mankind...plz think about this, before saying narrations says this and that.

Yes, wifes of the prophets as are not masoum and some were disobedient, but adultery is a complete different issue, that the wifes did not commit.

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When u guys are writing about the adultery of the prophet's saas wife,do u realize that u dishonour him?

We are talking about the greatest human of mankind...plz think about this, before saying narrations says this and that.

Yes, wifes of the prophets as are not masoum and some were disobedient, but adultery is a complete different issue, that the wifes did not commit.

I can appreciate your opinion but we have proofs and evidences for our claims from our books, I can see your point if it wasn't documented.

Prophet Lot wife was a prostitute and gay, it is in our references as well, and prophet noah wife also guilty.

Tafsir qummi explains this in surah tahreem, that all 3 of them guilty of zina...

Caseclosed..

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I can appreciate your opinion but we have proofs and evidences for our claims from our books, I can see your point if it wasn't documented.

Prophet Lot wife was a prostitute and gay, it is in our references as well, and prophet noah wife also guilty.

Tafsir qummi explains this in surah tahreem, that all 3 of them guilty of zina...

Caseclosed..

Could you show us these authentic references you go on about

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Could you show us these authentic references you go on about

You have never read tafsir qummi? I'm looking at it right now on my bookshelf from my bed.. open it up to surah 66 and read

Tafsir qummi page 712(arabic)

Bihar al anwar tafsir surah 66

These sources are 100% authentic according to my school of thought

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Ok, i see.So this statement is according to your own school of thought.Cause i know that only the quran is 100% authentic.

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You have never read tafsir qummi? I'm looking at it right now on my bookshelf from my bed.. open it up to surah 66 and read

Tafsir qummi page 712(arabic)

Bihar al anwar tafsir surah 66

These sources are 100% authentic according to my school of thought

I can't find an English version online. Could you possibly find me one

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@Rafidi-"according to my school of thought" says it all. Yep case closed.

I guess you and mina dont know what tafsir qummi is, and I guess you both believe the prophet ate poisoned meat of some jew and died 4 years later, you probably also believe he was illiterate, tried to kill himself, forgot prayer, slept with 9 wives with one bath, and was afraid of angel gabriel..

Yeah, my school of thought is tashayyu, and tafsir qummi is one of our oldest tafsirs and your beloved khoei relies on it..

So are you sunni or shia??

I have to ask...

I can't find an English version online. Could you possibly find me one

I'm sorry brother, there is no english version,

This is becoming an issue with a lot of shia,

Because you give all this khumms money and they translate nothing for you...

But they are so quick to write a tafsir like mizan, 1200 years after these tafsirs and say, the prophet died of jewish meat and fulana didn't kill prophet, nor did she commit adultery...

Anyway, if you would like I can translate that page for you in a pm, and you can also ask another brother who knows arabic to translate for you, so you know I'm not lying...

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God bless you Rafidhi1986

Personally, it was very hard for me to accept the notion of a Prophetic wife committing zina because everyone told me this lowered the honour of the Prophet (saww) and I followed blindly. But I honestly don't see how, it was after His (saww) death and she also started the war of the Camel which led to the deaths of 10, 000 Muslims. I don't see how zina is hard for such a person

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So anyway, what poison, exactly, is the one that kills the consumer but after a few years of taking it and with a single, slight dose? I don't care about the book or the other topic, just need to learn about that illusive poison. I've been googling and reading books to no avail to find its chemical name. So what is the chemical formula of that mysterious khyber poison? May be it was magically crafted by a evil djinn?

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I guess you and mina dont know what tafsir qummi is, and I guess you both believe the prophet ate poisoned meat of some jew and died 4 years later, you probably also believe he was illiterate, tried to kill himself, forgot prayer, slept with 9 wives with one bath, and was afraid of angel gabriel..

Yeah, my school of thought is tashayyu, and tafsir qummi is one of our oldest tafsirs and your beloved khoei relies on it..

So are you sunni or shia??

I have to ask...

I'm sorry brother, there is no english version,

This is becoming an issue with a lot of shia,

Because you give all this khumms money and they translate nothing for you...

But they are so quick to write a tafsir like mizan, 1200 years after these tafsirs and say, the prophet died of jewish meat and fulana didn't kill prophet, nor did she commit adultery...

Anyway, if you would like I can translate that page for you in a pm, and you can also ask another brother who knows arabic to translate for you, so you know I'm not lying...

If you could PM me that would be much appreciated

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Hi,

Just a question purely out of curiousity. You call numerous of our scholars Safawi Rafidhis going as far back as to Allama Majlisi (May Allah raise him 70 Darajat every time he cursed Jibt and Taghoot, as our Imams say the darajat of one is raised after cursing those two), so my question is about Sheikh Abu Salah Al-Halabi (ar). He exposed the disbelievers in Allah and oppressors of Aal Muhammad (as), Jibt and Taghoot, in his book Taqrib Al-Ma'arif through the narrations of our Imams (as) but predated the Safawi empire, what type of Rafidhi is he?

He is an extremist.  

But, the subject is about `Aisha. All of your classical scholars (Tusi, al-Mufid, etc) agreed that `Aisha is a hypocrite and in Hell. But al-hamdullillâh, nowadays we see some great `ulama like Ayatollâh alSeyyed Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah (رحمه الله); they change this extremism. That's why I advise alrafidha to read the last part of the book[let]. Thanks sir Toyib for the last part. I'll share the last part of your book[let] on some websites. 

I remember when my teacher of Fiqh (his name is Malik ibn Anas like the name of Imām dār al Hijrah) praised Ayatollâh alSeyyed Muhamad Hussein Fadlallah (رحمه الله) and he said: "He is a light of hope for alrafidha". 


Yes, wifes of the prophets as are not masoum and some were disobedient, but adultery is a complete different issue, that the wifes did not commit.

You do not have any authentic hadith that says it's impossible for a prophet's wife to commit zinah. And we do not have an authentic hadith. That's why, Sheikh al-Muhaqiqin al-Albani said in his great book: it's possible for the prophet's wives to commit zinâh. We are not extremist like you; we follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah

Besides, you're funny oh shî`a. You're saying that zinâh is worst than al-kufr walnifâq...Lol

 

@Rafidi-"according to my school of thought" says it all. Yep case closed.

 

Yes. According to some `ulama alrafidha, it's authentic. You think there is only one school of tahqiq and tas-h?! Lol

Sincerely,

 

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@rafidhi

"I guess you and mina dont know what tafsir qummi is, and I guess you both believe the prophet ate poisoned meat of some jew and died 4 years later, you probably also believe he was illiterate, tried to kill himself, forgot prayer, slept with 9 wives with one bath, and was afraid of angel gabriel.."

I don't believe any of these like i don't believe that any wifes of prophets commited adultery.How do u get to these assumptions?Tafsir Qummi is not the holy quran.That is shia belief.

@Ibn Abi Shayba,i didn't say that, read the whole post.With the accusation of adultery the prophet saas gets dishonoured.That is what i'm trying to say.

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@rafidhi

"I guess you and mina dont know what tafsir qummi is, and I guess you both believe the prophet ate poisoned meat of some jew and died 4 years later, you probably also believe he was illiterate, tried to kill himself, forgot prayer, slept with 9 wives with one bath, and was afraid of angel gabriel.."

I don't believe any of these like i don't believe that any wifes of prophets commited adultery.How do u get to these assumptions?Tafsir Qummi is not the holy quran.That is shia belief.

@Ibn Abi Shayba,i didn't say that, read the whole post.With the accusation of adultery the prophet saas gets dishonoured.That is what i'm trying to say.

 

Hi mina313,

It's your point of view and we do not care. I mean, we only follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah, not our feeling.

Anyway, kufr or hypocrisy is a biggest dishonor than zinâh! 

Sincerely,

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Didnt Prophet Muhammad(S) dispel this "adultery" theory before with a revelation?

And seriously, not one reliable source which says that she was pregnant? And people are slandering her? Lol, get a life.

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Hi mina313,

It's your point of view and we do not care. I mean, we only follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah, not our feeling.

Anyway, kufr or hypocrisy is a biggest dishonor than zinâh! 

Sincerely,

You know theres no reason to be so harsh. After all its not everyday you find a shia who is willing to defend aisha.

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