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Muslim Ummah Disintegrates Afterprophet(S)'s Death

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This is an extremely important topic, and I don't want to be controversial; but it is important to discuss in my opinion, and the reasons why we are seeing a plague in Muslim societies today. 


I won't go into the specifics of what happened right after the death of the Prophet(S) to avoid sounding controversial.


Let us say that Hazrat Umar was a good administrator of the Islamic empire, and kept a tight lid/control over affairs. The empire grew very rapidly after the death of Prophet(S), in fact, too rapidly, which caused a lot of problems.


However, after the death of Hazrat Umar, rifts based on tribal affiliations and families started taking place within the Muslim community. 


The Ummayads started to influence matters, and challenged the writ of the state. I would say that the problem with the Muslim community even during the time of Prophet(S) was that the people that had directly fought Muslims in the Battles of Badr and Uhad, people/munafiqs such as Abu Sufyan and Khalid bin Waleed, started gaining prominence in the Muslim Ummah once they entered the realm of Islam, and after the life of the Prophet(S) during the caliph's times. 


It were these people, and their progeny (Muawiya was the son of Abu Sufyan, Yazid was the son of Muawiya) that caused the destruction of Muslim society, and caused tremendous pain and suffering to the family of the Prophet(S).


It was clear from the death of Hazrat Umar, that the Muslim community started disintegrating rapidly, with the Ummayads (and Abbasids later on) trying to grab power at the expense of the state. Imam Ali (AS) saw Muawiya responsible for the first great fitna, and in-fighting between Muslims in the Battle of Jamal and Siffin.


Imam Hasan (AS) had to settle with Muawiya through a peace treaty, and was then poisoned to death. 


It was abundantly clear that under Yazid, and bloodthirsty, power grabbing people; Islam would have gone undergone total destruction, and Imam Hussain (AS) made the ultimate sacrifice in Karbala.


However, with the rise of ISIS and other militant groups throughout the world, we can see all this emanated after the life of Prophet(S), with the gradual disintegration of the Muslim Ummah.




Green -  Region under the control of Imam Ali (AS)

Red - Region under the control of Muawiya

Blue - Region under the control of Amr bin Aas


It absolutely boggles me how anyone can call the progeny of Abu Sufyan (Muawiya, Yazid), and Abu Sufyan companions of the Prophet(S), when they were responsible for creating fitna in the Muslim society for their thirst for power; and are the reason why we see the plague in the Muslim world today. 


There are more and more Wahabi and Deobandi scholars coming out today, praising Yazid (calling him Yazeed ® nauzibillah) and claiming Imam Hussain (AS) was wrong. Calling Yazid the rightful caliph, and Imam Hussain (AS) a rebel. This is the reason why the Muslim world, and especially the Arab world, has its plague.

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Prophet had asked the Muslims, to follow the Qur’an and the Ahlul Bayt(as).

But instead,  Clan of Umayyad were honored and given vital positions in the Kingdom, which eventually led to their complete takeover of the Islamic state,


Who was Yazid ibn Abi Sufyan? What position(s) He was given and by whom?


Who appointed his replacement ? Muawiya ibn Abi Sufyan to the governor of Syria


With Muawiya ibn Abi Sufyan consolidating power in Syria, Uthman was a sure in for the Kingship.


(political maneuvering had its roots, very early on, you think 100 people at meeting place just selected a the king for the Islamic state. Deals were cut, and Umayyad were past enemy , had just came under the fold of Islam after the fall of Mecca(general public would doubt their loyalty), Umayyad had to take a backseat till the conditions were right, so they supported the ones who can run the state till they were ready)

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No, because you praised Umar


No, I never praised him. Didn't even put ® next to his name. I said I don't want to sound too controversial on the thread. He murdered Sayyidina Fatima (AS), and stole Fadak. Of course. But there isn't denying he was a good administrator. That wasn't the point of the thread though.



This article explains the point of this thread, read carefully.


There are quite a few subtle but extremely pertinent points that I hope you don't miss out:
Analysis: The Fifth Caliph And ISIS: Looking To History To Understand The Present
Could ISIS be the carriers of black flags and people with “hearts of iron” Muslims were warned about centuries ago? History may provide more insight than the talking heads who seem bewildered by ISIS’ bloody campaign of terror.
The world continues to look on as the Middle East descends further into the abyss of war, ravaged by a terror seemingly animated only by blood and violence. Few seem able to comprehend what’s unfolding, but one political science professor says he’s found the the key to understanding the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and unlocking its inner workings.
Speaking to Marwa Osman on the Iraqi TV network Aletejah, Dr. Akl Kairouz noted that the wave of terror confronting the Arab world since 2011, this almost religious philosophy of war to which countries like Syria and Iraq have fallen victim to, is rooted in Middle Eastern history during a fight between what has been described as “good vs. evil.”
The professor compared ISIS’ advances in the greater Levant to that of Muawiyah’s campaigns – the founder of the Umayyad dynasty – in the 7th century. It is important to note that from an Islamic standpoint, Muawiyah’s actions contradict the spirit of Islam, not only legally but religiously.
“Looking at ISIS and how its leadership envisions war as a base upon which its ideology will be disseminated to the region and ultimately the world, it is clear that the group has drawn its inspiration from Muawiyah … the same patterns of violence, the same blind desire to impose one’s faith over unwitting communities, the same exclusive ideology and ascetic interpretation of the Islamic Scriptures, the same hegemonic ambitions,” he said.
Kairouz added that ISIS is even geographically mapping its military advances based upon Muawiyah’s past campaigns. “Only by understanding the roots and inner motivations of ISIS will we be able to defeat this evil. What we need is historical peripheral vision,” he urged.
Good versus evil
Commenting on Kairouz’s historical analogy, political analyst and Islamic history buff Dr. Mohsen Ammanpour told MintPress News, “Indeed, too little importance is given to history and what lessons should be drawn from our past when dealing with our present.”
“There is an undeniable parallel in between Muawiyah’s past crusades and how ISIS has conducted as well as organized its conquest of the Middle East,” Ammanpour added.
Pushing the analogy onto more religious grounds, he stressed:
“There is an important aspect of ISIS which we too often bypass as inherent to the group’s radical nature — its hatred of Shia Islam. This hatred is actually core to ISIS’ paradigm, its entire philosophy revolves around the idea that it is the true keeper of Islamic tradition and that the sword is the only mean to promote its faith.
Islam’s break occurred under Muawiyah, when he chose to defy Imam Ali and proclaim himself heir to the throne of Islam. It is his rebellion which has fuelled sectarian violence across the ages. Today we are witnessing the unravelling of centuries of bad blood and religious distortion.”
Muawiyah: the power hungry dissident
The second son of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb and Hind bint Utbah – the most virulent detractors and enemies of the Prophet Muhammad – Muawiyah converted to Islam two years before the prophet’s death. He quickly rose to prominence after demonstrating excellent military and administrative skills under the leadership of Omar and Uthman – the second and third caliphs of Islam.
A controversial figure, both Sunni and Shiite Muslims have a wildly different perspectives when it comes to Muawiyah and the subsequent rise of the Umayyad dynasty over Ahl al-Bayt — the House of the Prophet.
Muawiyah was denounced by Shiite Islam, for he dared not only to defy the order of Imam Ali, the appointed caliph during this time, but to cross swords against his brothers in religion, even though such an act had been condemned and branded an act of apostasy by Prophet Muhammad himself. He is very much understood as an impostor, a tyrant and an evildoer of the highest degree because he willfully chose to misinterpret Islamic scripture to serve his hegemonic ambitions, using religion and faith to support his conquests and justify bloodshed.
Speaking to MintPress, Sarah Anderson, an Islamic history researcher, explained that scholars have often argued that it was under Muawiyah’s influence that Muslims abandoned the spirit of the Constitution of Medina, a text written by Prophet Mohammed that served as a basis of the Islamic state (not to be confused here with ISIS).
Under the Constitution of Medina, religious freedom was guaranteed, women were not to be harmed, enslaved or otherwise abused, civilians’ rights were guaranteed, and non-Muslims were given equal rights to Muslims as long as they agreed to pay taxes and did not disrupt the new social order.
Islam’s crusaders are not Islamic
“Over a thousand years have passed and Muslims are still arguing over the same religious and judicial principles – the sanctity of a Muslim life, what constitutes apostasy, one’s right to attack civilian population and religious freedom,” Anderson told MintPress.
“If one was to make a historical analogy, Muawiyah’s military campaigns and his hegemonic vision could be compared to that of the [Catholic] Church during the Crusades. What we are seeing today in the Middle East is the resurgence of such philosophy, that one needs to assert one’s beliefs by the sword and annihilate all other religions.”
In “The Heirs of the Prophet Muhammad” (2006), Barnaby Rogerson likens Muawiyah to Julius Caesar, stressing that his prowess as a military strategist and his thirst for conquest were quite similar to that of the Roman emperor.
“Looking back at Muawiyah’s reign and the manner in which he rationalized what Shia scholars understand as his heresy against Islam, it is difficult not to see striking parallels with ISIS today,” explained Dr. Ammanpour.
“The battle of Siffin, which saw Imam Ali’s troops pitted against Muawiyah’s men, is where Raqqa stands today. Is it a coincidence ISIS chose to establish its capital on this very ground? Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t, but such signs should stand as a reminder of ISIS’ motivations and what model it seeks to replicate.”
Islam’s first civil war was fought on the banks of the Euphrates in 657. Though centuries have passed, the old religious argument, this claim of sanctity and righteousness over the spirit of Islam, rages on.
Born out of fanaticism and extremism, ISIS has been dubbed by many in the Islamic world as Islam’s Second Fitna (civil strife), in direct reference to the First Fitna, the Battle of Siffin, which saw Islam splinter into two factions: the people of Ali — the Shiites — and those who chose to bow to the Umayyad — the Sunnis.
ISIS’ actions today are very much understood as an attempt to settle an old feud with Shiite Islam — a feud which started under Muawiyah’s influence.
The closing of a circle
As politicians and analysts debate on how best to eradicate ISIS and the terror it has brought in its wake, Muslim scholars see in the radical phenomenon that is ISIS the closing of a cycle.
Yussef Safwan told MintPress that, as a Muslim scholar, the most interesting part is that “[t]his war we are seeing unfold has been foretold … whether one believes in Islam is in some ways irrelevant, since ISIS believes that its army is fulfilling an Islamic prophecy. Belief and faith have precedent over politics and even realities.”
“Just as Christians and Jews have their own understanding of the apocalypse, Muslims have been taught in great detail what chain of events will lead to the end times. ISIS’ ideology is tied to this prophecy. Its militants have been taught they are the instruments of God’s will and that under their impetus Mahdi [islamic savior] will come forth,” explained Safwan.
“But if ISIS believes its goals will be sanctified, others believe the black army is the very evil our Prophet warned us against in his hadiths [islamic prophetic traditions].”
In Kitab Al Fitan – a compilation of hadiths relating to the end of times assembled by prominent scholar Nuyam bin Hammad in Islamic calendar year 229 – Imam Ali bin Abu Talib reportedly said:
“If you see the black flags, then hold your ground and do not move your hands or your feet. A people will come forth who are weak and have no capability, their hearts are like blocks of iron. They are the people of the State (literally the people of Al Dawla), they do not keep a promise or a treaty. They call to the truth but they are not its people. Their names are (nicknames like Abu Mohammed) and their last names (are the names of town and cities, like Al Halabi) and their hair is loose like women’s hair. (Leave them) until they fight among themselves, then Allah [God] will bring the truth from whoever He wills.”
The question remains: Could ISIS be the violent, deviant black army that the Prophet Muhammad and Imam Ali warned Muslims about hundreds of years ago?
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