Virginity And Purity

[Repentant 1,418]

Sallam Alykum,

 

Someone told me that is a girl, for example, has sexual relations outside of marriage that she is still considered a virgin according to fiqhi levels. That she isn't a virgin according to physical means but is according to fiqh means. She will remain a virgin according to fiqhi means till she is married using Islamic rulings.

 

Can someone please explain this?

 

 

Sayyid Al-Hakeem:

 

Q [32]  Is it permissible for a matured girl who lost her virginity by fornication, or by any other way apart from valid marriage, to marry temporarily without the consent of her father or guardian?

 

A: If the virginity was lost by adultery or any reason other than religious marriage, then the woman is still considered as virgin

 

[Qa'im 11,117]

According to some maraja', if a woman loses her virginity outside of marriage, she must still receive her father's permission to marry afterwards. So in this sense she is considered the same as a virgin fiqhi.

Edited November 1, 2014 by Qa'im

[learn_know_do 4]

I find this interesting. Based on this then, it seems that there is a difference between virgin and purity in their definitions.

 

Virginity seems like an externally gained quality derived from a woman's experience and wisdom due to being married.

 

Whereas, purity/chaste(this seems maybe the better word) seems to be the intrinsic quality of never having been sexually penetrated. 

 

Thus, a woman who has been sexually active but never married may be said to be a virgin but impure(not to be mistaken as najasah). 

[Muhammed Ali 3,726]

I find this interesting. Based on this then, it seems that there is a difference between virgin and purity in their definitions.

 

Virginity seems like an externally gained quality derived from a woman's experience and wisdom due to being married.

 

Whereas, purity/chaste(this seems maybe the better word) seems to be the intrinsic quality of never having been sexually penetrated. 

 

Thus, a woman who has been sexually active but never married may be said to be a virgin but impure(not to be mistaken as najasah). 

 

There is a difference between the lexical and fiqhi meanings. This is the case with many words.

[Repentant 1,418]

According to some maraja', if a woman loses her virginity outside of marriage, she must still receive her father's permission to marry afterwards. So in this sense she is considered the same as a virgin fiqhi.

 

Oh thanks. Does Ayatullah Sistani believe this as well?

[learn_know_do 4]

There is a difference between the lexical and fiqhi meanings. This is the case with many words.

 

Thats what I found interesting...

 

Truly, in order to understand an issue one must be clear of the meanings of terms when they differ from common means associated with the same term.

 

But then that commonality may differ from geographic region to region.

 

Then the probability of being misunderstood and misquoted increases. 

 

So difficult communicating...

 

Anyways, thanks for sharing.

[HamzaTR 1,081]

S/He was right. And this is not just the view of Syed al-Hakim.

 

The girl is still considered to be a virgin (inexperienced in matrimonial life), since she did not have a legal commitment-marriage by the standards of any culture, thus she still needs the father's consent in order that it made be sure she is going to be with the right person.

 

The reason is her being inexperienced in legal matrimonial life, though physically she experienced certain things. And since she is considered inexperienced, she needs her father's consent for marriage.

Edited November 2, 2014 by HamzaTR

[learn_know_do 4]

S/He was right. And this is not just the view of Syed al-Hakim.

 

The girl is still considered to be a virgin (inexperienced in matrimonial life), since she did not have a legal commitment-marriage by the standards of any culture, thus she still needs the father's consent in order that it made be sure she is going to be with the right person.

 

The reason is her being inexperienced in legal matrimonial life, though physically she experienced certain things. And since she is considered inexperienced, she needs her father's consent for marriage

 

 

I have always been impressed with the Ulama's ability to insightfully define problems and come up with amazing solutions from the Book and the Sunna