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You have to cause violence to prevent violence.  

 

what kind of statement is this? Defending yourself against an aggressor is one thing. Terrorism and killing innocent civilians is another. You can't justify or defend intentional or careless killing of civilians, no matter how you twist and turn it. If anyone want's to do such a thing, they can take it elsewhere. 

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Who in the mod team are wahabi apologists? 

 

Thats what I thought. They can see IPs. =/

 

And to answer your question boldly, erm... perhaps the only one of them who isn't shady is Haji2003. Dar, Basim and Naz being MIA. (Nothing personal btw!) The rest may be or probably are excellent mods otherwise. I just don't feel comfortable knowing that a guest star from KFC forums and Wahabi-Shia hybrids (no offense) can see my IP address, because, I don't trust them with it. Nor should others. Yes, my concern is genuine. There is a cesspool of murdering jihadists in Pakiland here and too many of our scholars, speakers and normal people from all walks of life, their families and employees have fell victim to the likes of people found on KFC.

 

Anyway, I get the idea from your reply that nothing much can be done about it. Well, that is okay to me at least since I have my net registered in someone else's name and have nothing to fear basically. But you might get called out on judgment day for being so careless with people's lives, or worse, heavens forbid. Shia people, no less.

 

In the very least, with this crew, you're a tad more liable to have a repeat of Mickey turning to the dark side.

Edited by Darth Vader

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What the flippin hell are you guys talking about? Reporting IP to who? What good does someones IP do other than simply locating the city you are connected from? Stop watching movies you hippies!

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No? IP address with time ---> Wahabi_minion_X working as a employee in your ISP ---> Check logs ---> Your identity and living address ---> Trouble for you.

 

In fact, if a Shia is doing good enough munazra I can imagine a rich shiek contacting a mod and paying them $$$. A wahabi mod, on the other hand, will do it for free to earn beau coup thawab. :p

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No? IP address with time ---> Wahabi_minion_X working as a employee in your ISP ---> Check logs ---> Your identity and living address ---> Trouble for you.

 

In fact, if a Shia is doing good enough munazra I can imagine a rich shiek contacting a mod and paying them $$$. A wahabi mod, on the other hand, will do it for free to earn beau coup thawab. :p

What on earth does the ISP shiachat runs on have to do with our mods? The ISP would be able to check the ip regardless of wether we as mods can see ip or not.

Plus....paranoid much?

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

Brother Repenter, we have a right to know what is happening to our profiles and what information is being shared outside of shiachat. When signing up with shiachat, what are the terms we are agreeing?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

Brother Repenter, we have a right to know what is happening to our profiles and what information is being shared outside of shiachat. When signing up with shiachat, what are the terms we are agreeing?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

Its the same as before, nothing has changed.

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What is going on here may i ask?

 

Shias not trusting each other? What kind of world is this?

If we can't trust each other, how can we continue our daily lives around with all those nawasib?

Edited by celestial

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@DV

A temporary solution is to never log on to SC from your original IP. So bad guys after you , if any, won't be able to tell. For example you can appear to be logged in from US, UK, Germany, PK etc on the same day. The dumb Wahhabi will think we Shias by our majoosi black magic powers have mastered space and time. If they try to follow you they will only be spending their petrodollar savings on flights following a phantom! And that would be as funny as a Wahhabi's beard no?

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I can't trust anyone over the internet even if its actually Jesus himself on the other end, simple as that.

 

But I think this discussion is now redundant.


To be very perfectly and clearly honest, I am just a little upset that I was not even offered the ownership of shiachat so I could run it as I please. But thats okay. God will have vengeance on the behalf of my little sad heart.

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It might just as well that we're fighting a losing battle?

 

It might be a blessing in disguise. The Internet is teaching us to talk, talk, talk, talk.  Talk without end.  No one knows who the hell you are.  So just keep talking.

 

I am sure you will agree that Islam loathes talkers, especially the type of talk talkers deliver on the Internet. 

 

But brother, your talks are way out off the common track.

 

So please keep talking, I am listening.

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Guys hold on :!!!:

 

Are all aware how to use forum ? i have mentioned the technical side here : http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235025822-fassad-book/page-2#entry2745195

 

i guess people never care to shuffle old post and jump in new one. Technically it is possible to edit Ayatullah Sistani website too as that is also hosted in USA datacenter. Datacenter is having that machine where Domain is pointing and Files are stored. All the content are in Database and Files are generating them as a website on demand. That Database too is on Same machine which is hosted on that Datacenter. That machine is provided with a IP pool ( example 4-5 IP ) and those IP whenever get combined with domain .. the domain start reflecting same machine. This is all technical behind website.

 

Now security, every datacenter is having there Logmachines .. Whether a software track all hits or not but those logmachines are tracking every IP which is looking for that website. Same way your own netprovider ISP too is tracking all Logs. On that basis ISP is able to block any unwanted or criminal act site. Example : many porn sites and proxy sites are blocked in Gulf countries.

 

So don't shout if a Mod is checking your IP or not. If someone need your IP they will not ask to Mod or Admin of Shiachat .. but they directly contact Datacenter of Shiachat host and get all the logs. Unnecessary you guys are panic .. Staff of shiachat can't do anything. They are guarding there hard work and we have to appreciate there work and make this community more stronger.

 

Ayatullah Khamnei Website : Hosted in Iran ( 2.188.20.13 ) Tehran

Aytullah Sistani Website : Hosted in USA ( 174.36.234.52 ) Virginia

Ayatullah Shirazi Website : Hosted in USA  ( 74.208.162.144 ) Kansas City

 

Shiachat.com : Hosted in USA ( 74.208.102.38 ) Kansas City

Edited by alirex

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum

Brother Ali Rex,

What about Sayyid Mohamed Hussayn Fad'Allah. Where is his site hosted?

M3 Salamah, FE AMN Allah

His site is bayynat.org

His Website IP is located as 66.113.139.204

His website country is United States

His website Data center is Illinois - Chicago

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On 10/19/2014 at 5:03 AM, alirex said:

Let me clear user layla in some technical points if she is not feelings easy.

One of the biggest Ayatullah and Marja , Ayatullah Sistani website : sistani.org is on IP 174.36.234.52 which is in Virginia USA. Any website is having 2 things a domain + files. Domain is sistani.org and files where website text/video content are saved. And these all files are hosted on a server which is located in web by IP address 174.36.234.52 when domain -> target -> 174.36.234.52 it make connection and that domain will start showing those files and all this process when combined made a website.

Shiachat.com is hosted on 74.208.102.38 which is in Kansas , USA.

So all sites where u think nobody is watching you or your message is not true. Every site is hosted in some place and that place is connected with whole world web netwrork. So Datacenter are able to check those files and there content. You once connected to internet .. even your PC Mac Address will get reported to your netproviders, and that Mac Address will continue get monitored and leave a Log file for whatever site you visited. Through which if ever any crime happen they can track you.

If you want more privacy more security then there is something called VPN or TOR. Virtual Private Netwrok it makes a Layer in between website < VPN IP > you. But after Silkroad network got cracked which is behind TOR network nothing is impossible.

Anythings which makes connection  point 1 > point 2 > Point 3 > Web > User it can go back in same points.

I hope u can understand now and clear your doubt.

Thank you brother.  I'm revisiting this and I understand.  I'm very happy to live in a place where I don't have to be threatened by what I say, Alhamd'Allah.

I wonder what SC benefits from allowing users to log on through FB. 

Four years later have you seen any advantages?

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