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Can somebody explain what a "Half Hijab" is, and whether it is acceptable as a Hijab?

 

I have heard that many Iranians and Afghanis observe a so called "Half Hijab"--is this true?

 

From what I understand, a "Half Hijab" is essentially a scarf that covers about half the hair--is this true, or something else? 

 

Is a "Half Hijab" observed outside of Iranian/Afghani culture, and if so, in which other cultures? 

 

Thanks,

TYE

  • Advanced Member
Posted

Can somebody explain what a "Half Hijab" is, and whether it is acceptable as a Hijab?

 

I have heard that many Iranians and Afghanis observe a so called "Half Hijab"--is this true?

 

From what I understand, a "Half Hijab" is essentially a scarf that covers about half the hair--is this true, or something else? 

 

Is a "Half Hijab" observed outside of Iranian/Afghani culture, and if so, in which other cultures? 

 

Thanks,

TYE

 

1. Showing some of hair, specially front hair.

2. Showing neck and ears and covering back of the head.

3. Wearing half sleeves.

4. See-through dress, scarf/ hijab.

5. Wearing tight cloths that reveal body shape.

6. Glamorous dress.

7. Face showing with make up/ without make up.

8. Jewelery in hands, fingers, mehndi/ hinna, nail polish.

9. Waering high heels, fancy shoes.

10. Putting on perfume.

Hijab is both for men and women, the extent differs but the basic rulings are same.

  • Moderators
Posted

Intentions do matter. If the lady believes she is fulfilling the requirements of hijab there is no sin. If her purpose in semi-covering is to attract lustful attention, she may as well wear a bikini.

  • Veteran Member
Posted

Half Hijab

 

i remember watching a documentary about lebanon civil war and a hijabi woman appeared walking in street wearing knee long skirt and heels.

 

 

i saw similar scene on iraqi tv interviewing iraqi university students.

 

and add to the list those who wear skinny jeans with not much long tunic

 

 

or those who show their arms un to elbow

 

or those who wear tops that define their curves (breasts and waists )

 

or those who show a part of their hair ( the bang or the lower end)

 

or those that put full make up (lashes, mascara , lip gloss, etc)

  • Veteran Member
Posted

... If the lady believes she is fulfilling the requirements of hijab there is no sin...

 

If one believes he/she is fulfilling the requirements of Prayer, Hajj, Fast ...., that would be ok?

 

there should be objective, verifiable limits.  

  • Advanced Member
Posted

Salam,

Have you heard of quarter hijab? Thats when the front and back of the hair is showing and the middle part is covered,lol. Half hijab is when you show the front hairs and hide the rest. Full hijab is when you cover all of the hair and neck.

Some khaljies do that style.

Some people wear half hijab just because their forced or their cutlurel wears it like that.

  • Moderators
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If one believes he/she is fulfilling the requirements of Prayer, Hajj, Fast ...., that would be ok?

 

there should be objective, verifiable limits.  

 

I didn't say it was right.  I said there is no sin on them.  There is a difference.  

  • Moderators
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I don't see how their is a difference.  

 

Is a toddler who has not yet learned to not steal guilty of a sin if he steals?  Is a person who has never learned about Islam held accountable for missed prayers and fasts?  Is a Muslim who has never learned about khums guilty if he doesn't pay it?  The difference is the intention.  A person who genuinely doesn't know they are wrong is not sinning.  That's why it's not a sin to accidentally sleep through fajr.  It isn't right, but it isn't a sin either.

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Salam,

Have you heard of quarter hijab? Thats when the front and back of the hair is showing and the middle part is covered,lol. Half hijab is when you show the front hairs and hide the rest. Full hijab is when you cover all of the hair and neck.

Some khaljies do that style.

Some people wear half hijab just because their forced or their cutlurel wears it like that.

Hijab is when your womanly ornaments are hidden, so if you have a "full hijab" on your head you need also cover your bottom and chest, no point in covering your hair if a tight trouser sticks to your legs and bum and a tight shirt sticks to your chest.

 

So Full Hijab, the only hijab, is when everything is hidden except the face and hands. Any less than this is not Hijab.

  • Veteran Member
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Is a toddler who has not yet learned to not steal guilty of a sin if he steals? Is a person who has never learned about Islam held accountable for missed prayers and fasts? Is a Muslim who has never learned about khums guilty if he doesn't pay it? The difference is the intention. A person who genuinely doesn't know they are wrong is not sinning. That's why it's not a sin to accidentally sleep through fajr. It isn't right, but it isn't a sin either.

if the lack of knowledge stems from his/ her own carelessness, then that is sin

ﺍﻟْﻤُﻔِﻴﺪُ ﻋَﻦِ ﺍﺑْﻦِ ﻗُﻮﻟَﻮَﻳْﻪِ ﻋَﻦْ ﻣُﺤَﻤﱠﱠﺪٍ ﺍﻟْﺤِﻤْﻴَﺮِﻱﱢﱢ ﻋَﻦْ ﺃَﺑِﻴﻪِ ﻋَﻦْ ﻫَﺎﺭُﻭﻥَ ﻋَﻦِ ﺍﺑْﻦِ ﺯِﻳَﺎﺩٍ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﺳَﻤِﻌْﺖُ ﺟَﻌْﻔَﺮَ ﺑْﻦَ ﻣُﺤَﻤﱠﱠﺪٍ ﻉ ﻭَ ﻗَﺪْ ﺳُﺌِﻞَ ﻋَﻦْ ﻗَﻮْﻟِﻪِ ﺗَﻌَﺎﻟَﻰ ﻗُﻞْ ﻓَﻠِﻠﱠﱠﻪِ ﺍﻟْﺤُﺠﱠﱠﺔُ ﺍﻟْﺒﺎﻟِﻐَﺔُ ﻓَﻘَﺎﻝَ ﺇِﻥﱠﱠ ﺍﻟﻠﱠﱠﻪَ ﺗَﻌَﺎﻟَﻰ ﻳَﻘُﻮﻝُ ﻟِﻠْﻌَﺒْﺪِ ﻳَﻮْﻡَ ﺍﻟْﻘِﻴَﺎﻣَﺔِ ﻋَﺒْﺪِﻱ ﺃَ ﻛُﻨْﺖَ ﻋَﺎﻟِﻤﺎً ﻓَﺈِﻥْ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﻧَﻌَﻢْ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﻟَﻪُ ﺃَ ﻓَﻠَﺎ ﻋَﻤِﻠْﺖَ ﺑِﻤَﺎ ﻋَﻠِﻤْﺖَ ﻭَ ﺇِﻥْ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﻛُﻨْﺖُ ﺟَﺎﻫِﻠًﺎ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﻟَﻪُ ﺃَ ﻓَﻠَﺎ ﺗَﻌَﻠﱠﱠﻤْﺖَ ﺣَﺘﱠﱠﻰ ﺗَﻌْﻤَﻞَ ﻓَﻴُﺨْﺼَﻢُ ﻓَﺘِﻠْﻚَ ﺍﻟْﺤُﺠﱠﱠﺔُ ﺍﻟْﺒَﺎﻟِﻐَﺔُ.

Imam al- Sadiq (as) said:... on the day of judgment Allah st tells man: my slave, did you know? if he replies yes, then Allah says: why didn't you practice accordingly? and if he replies: I did not know, then Allah says: why didn't you learn so that you could practice ...

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  • Basic Members
Posted

Besm al-Allah

such a thing that might be seen in these two area is not half-hijab. there is no half-hijab, hijab is covering all body for women and if they have it or not. 

  • Moderators
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if the lack of knowledge stems from his/ her own carelessness, then that is sin

True, seeking knowledge is incumbent upon every capable person. However, nobody can know everything, we all have different capabilities, and we all start from different levels. One person can not pass judgement on another for lack of knowledge; only Allah knows a person's level.

  • Veteran Member
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True, seeking knowledge is incumbent upon every capable person. However, nobody can know everything, we all have different capabilities, and we all start from different levels. One person can not pass judgement on another for lack of knowledge; only Allah knows a person's level.

There is a conflict here between traditional way of amr bil ma'rouf and modern "non judgment attitude "

 

The brothers are trying to explain whats obligatory and binding upon every capable and sane and adult Muslim. Once you knew, you have no excuse in front of your God.

We are not speaking about us jugdging others rather, we are speaking about us judging ourselves.

 

 

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Rather, man, against himself, will be a witness,
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Even if he presents his excuses.

 

 

So we should be careful when we make statements that when read by weak muslims will be taken as excuse to avoid obligations. It is not our decision nor we who will be the judge nor we who will carry their burden nor we who will intercede ...

We will be hardly carrying our own burdens..

so the facts should be presented and each to their own...

 

Hijab should be observed unless you are in taqyiah which means that your life is threatened by killing or extreme deprivation. Each person can estimate the level of danger and each person should know that god knows also the level of danger and the level of likeness or dislikeness of following his orders.

Allah is merciful and Allah is  just. Those who followed the rules despite the hardships are not equal to those who didn't bother to follow them.

  • Veteran Member
Posted

The hijab where u show a little of ur hair from the front...say like part of the fringe...is this not considered hijab? she still covers 90% of the hair

Posted

Pearl178 it is all or nothing, the point of hiding hair is that non mahrams don't see what it looks like, all of your hair the same, so a 10% sample is enough to show what the rest look like.

  • Moderators
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a 10% sample is enough to show what the rest look like.

Not really. Color maybe. Not shine, texture, or quantity, the things that are biologically attractive.

Even knowing the true color from a small sample is doubtful.

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Not really. Color maybe. Not shine, texture, or quantity, the things that are biologically attractive.

Even knowing the true color from a small sample is doubtful.

What is Hijab, is it covering your hair or covering 90%?

  • Moderators
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What is Hijab, is it covering your hair or covering 90%?

No, neither. Hijab is covering "except that which must necessarily be shown", i. e. all except face and hands. But if a man thinks he knows the appearance of her covered parts from that which is shown, he is probably mistaken.

  • Moderators
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So is Hijab 100% covering hair or is it 90% covering hair?

You are missing the point. Hair is only a small part of hijab. Is a woman with a few hairs (intentionally) showing the same as a woman in tight jeans and low blouse?

I'm just advising people to be a bit less judgmental. Intentions DO matter. Much better to try and be wrong than to not even try.

  • Advanced Member
Posted

Actually the woman that showed her hair intentionally can be seen as worse,because she's aware of what shes doing. Will the woman with tight jeans and low blouse is unaware and is not intentionally doing it.

  • Moderators
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Actually the woman that showed her hair intentionally can be seen as worse,because she's aware of what shes doing. Will the woman with tight jeans and low blouse is unaware and is not intentionally doing it.

How do you know she is aware? If it's normal in her culture for ladies to dress this way, she might honestly believe it to be adequate.

I've known quite a few young ladies who preferred tight jeans or miniskirts even though their mothers and sisters dressed in perfect hijab.

  • Advanced Member
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How do you know she is aware? If it's normal in her culture for ladies to dress this way, she might honestly believe it to be adequate.

I've known quite a few young ladies who preferred tight jeans or miniskirts even though their mothers and sisters dressed in perfect hijab.

You stated that ,is a woman that shows a few hairs " intentionally", worse then etc. By stating intentionally,it means that shes aware of what shes doing and probably is aware that the hair should be covered.

I honestly dont care how others dress,i dont think jeans with a long top is bad, each person is responsible for their action and everyone by now knows what the real hijab is but it's up to each of us to choose if we want to follow it or not.

  • Moderators
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You stated that ,is a woman that shows a few hairs " intentionally", worse then etc. By stating intentionally,it means that shes aware of what shes doing and probably is aware that the hair should be covered.

Oh, I understand. No, I didn't mean a woman who intentionally shows her hair to appear beautiful or fashionable, but one who leaves a part of her hair uncovered because it is considered the normal modest appearance in her culture.

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