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Al-Baghdadi, A Mossad Agent Named "elliott Shimon"

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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called ”Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) is not only an agent of Mossad, the Israeli named "Simon Elliott" or "Elliott Shimon.
 
Publish Site American Veterans Today, a report in which he said that the leader of the "Daesh" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is not only an agent of Mossad, the Israeli named "Simon Elliott" or "Elliott Shimon," was trained to head the organization Daesh in order to spread chaos in the Arab countries neighboring Israel.
 
The report, published by the site, the "Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi," was born to Jewish parents and picked up Israeli intelligence services, to get highly trained to spy, and then been planted in one of the Arab countries to assess the organization "Daesh", which was published chaos throughout the Arab world and the demolition of states, which increases the chances of Israel's control over the Middle East region.
 
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Site remarks made ​​by "Edward Snowden" (American, who leaked details of spyware for the National Security Agency of America) last month to a newspaper, he claimed, "Snowden" to organize Daesh not only the product of an American plan, Israeli and British, aims to collect a majority of the world's Mujahideen extremists within one organization, to spread chaos in the Middle East and the destruction of nations, which gives Israel and the Western world, a greater opportunity to control the wealth of the region.
 
Another source corroborates this statement, the site Egy-press:
 
With photo support, an Iranian media discovers the true identity of the Emir Daesh, a trained Zionist agent.
 
Iranian intelligence discovered the true and full identity of the Emir Daesh, which is known under the name Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi; his real name is Elliot Shimon. Its role in Mossad secret agent in the Zionist espionage. His false name: Ibrahim ibn Awad ibn Ibrahim Al Al Badri Arradoui Hoseini.
 
The plan: get into the military and civilian heart of the countries that are declared as a threat to Israel in order to destroy to facilitate thereafter, the takeover by the Zionist state on the entire area of the Middle East in order to establish Greater Israel.
 

 

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  Im not sure what to believe in the age of conspirocies.We were 1st told he was a product of Syrias intelegence working fo Iran etc that proved false After Isis conqered many Bases from Assad.  I think this thing him been jewish is false too in that if Usa Brittain made him why would they be supplying Iraqs govt billions of weapons to confront isis. The  west is also providing the fsa weapons and billions of dollars to contain isis in Syria. They are also beefing Saudi gccc gulf states and Jordan supplies to confront them on their borders. My opnion although ISIS is evil it is a homegrown mob indepedant from any foriegn nation.

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What a load of nonsense.  The way he looks, the way he speaks, he's Iraqi.  Amazing the kind of rubbish that spreads around the internet that people believe and at the end of the day we look like a bunch of gullible fools.

Like when so many people got sucked into that whole "Arrivals" thing and it turned out to be a front for Ahmad al-Hasan

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(bismillah)

 

What a load of nonsense.  The way he looks, the way he speaks, he's Iraqi.  Amazing the kind of rubbish that spreads around the internet that people believe and at the end of the day we look like a bunch of gullible fools.

Like when so many people got sucked into that whole "Arrivals" thing and it turned out to be a front for Ahmad al-Hasan

 

No one denied he is Iraqi. But people can be of foreign nationalities and get recruited as informants by governments.

 

في أمان الله

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No one denied he is Iraqi.

 
From the first post:

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called ”Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) is not only an agent of Mossad, the Israeli named "Simon Elliott" or "Elliott Shimon.
 
Publish Site American Veterans Today, a report in which he said that the leader of the "Daesh" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is not only an agent of Mossad, the Israeli named "Simon Elliott" or "Elliott Shimon," was trained to head the organization Daesh in order to spread chaos in the Arab countries neighboring Israel.
 
Iranian intelligence discovered the true and full identity of the Emir Daesh, which is known under the name Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi; his real name is Elliot Shimon.
 
في أمان الله

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Israeli or not, Israel is benefiting from him and his caliphate, his caliphate has successfully nullified the Arab countries which are bordering Israel, and Israel is trying to make use of this opportunity by making a final push on Palestine.

 

Also we can already see the "caliphates" true colours, all Wahabi sheikhs are calling jihad against Israel haram yet they are calling jihad against shias wajib and are forcing Sunni women into Nikahs, and sex jihads.

 

They are simply filth, and filth needs to be cleansed even if it doesn't belong to Israel or the west.

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(bismillah)

 

 

 
From the first post:
 
 
في أمان الله

 

 

That still isn't a denial of him originally being Iraqi. Being an intel. informant would usually require another name. So his code name for mossad or CIA was the above, for example.

 

في أمان الله

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Israeli or not, Israel is benefiting from him and his caliphate, his caliphate has successfully nullified the Arab countries which are bordering Israel, and Israel is trying to make use of this opportunity by making a final push on Palestine.

 

Also we can already see the "caliphates" true colours, all Wahabi sheikhs are calling jihad against Israel haram yet they are calling jihad against shias wajib and are forcing Sunni women into Nikahs, and sex jihads.

 

They are simply filth, and filth needs to be cleansed even if it doesn't belong to Israel or the west.

 

Right. 

 

BTW, here's an Iraqi Sunni Sheikh on Abu Bakr "Baghdadi", ISIS and alike

 

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Elliot Shimon LOL.

 

It is fine to go beneath the skin of news flashes to dig out the real workings of realpolitik in the region; there is much to be uncovered and commented upon. But seriously, conspiracy theories of this ilk only make Muslim look more stupid than they are.

 

By the way are there any conspiracy theories in Israel that the killer of PM Rabin was an Iranian Shi'i? I doubt it :donno:

Conspiracy theories are not restricted to Muslims. Plus , I don't believe that Muslims are that stupid. Defiantly not more stupid than those who believe that US is waging wars to librate poor people and spread freedom and democracy.

Personally, i believe in one conspiracy theory. Spreading the inferiority complex cult among Muslims.

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Conspiracy theories are not restricted to Muslims. Plus , I don't believe that Muslims are that stupid. Defiantly not more stupid than those who believe that US is waging wars to librate poor people and spread freedom and democracy.

 

No, you're right, most conspiracy theories originate with people in the West and then hey presto a large section of Muslim populations latch on to them, believe in them, and popularise them.

 

Personally, i believe in one conspiracy theory. Spreading the inferiority complex cult among Muslims.

 

Maybe this is so, which is all the more reason for Muslims to pay heed to common sense and accept responsibility where it is due. One case of accepting responsibility is the startling, staggering, stunning rise of the armed gangs who visit death and destruction in the name of Islam. No one but modern politico-Islamic narrative itself is responsible for their rise. The foreigners and the enemies may, and do, exploit them to their end, but they didn't create this ideology out of thin air, they didn't manufacture those zombies and shipped them off to Muslim lands [which is what the article is trying to do with "Elliot Shimon"]. And if it were just an isolated phenomenon it might well have been said to be the handiwork of foreign conspiracy. But in almost every Muslim country you have these anti-people, anti-peace, anti-all-but-themselves groups, with considerable social clout and political capital, running amok without let or hindrance as if the earth spewed them out of gutters and not out of women's wombs.

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No, you're right, most conspiracy theories originate with people in the West and then hey presto a large section of Muslim populations latch on to them, believe in them, and popularise them.

 

 

Maybe this is so, which is all the more reason for Muslims to pay heed to common sense and accept responsibility where it is due. One case of accepting responsibility is the startling, staggering, stunning rise of the armed gangs who visit death and destruction in the name of Islam. No one but modern politico-Islamic narrative itself is responsible for their rise. The foreigners and the enemies may, and do, exploit them to their end, but they didn't create this ideology out of thin air, they didn't manufacture those zombies and shipped them off to Muslim lands [which is what the article is trying to do with "Elliot Shimon"]. And if it were just an isolated phenomenon it might well have been said to be the handiwork of foreign conspiracy. But in almost every Muslim country you have these anti-people, anti-peace, anti-all-but-themselves groups, with considerable social clout and political capital, running amok without let or hindrance as if the earth spewed them out of gutters and not out of women's wombs.

Illuminati conspiracy theory and landing on moon conspiracy theory and vaccines causing autism conspiracy theory are all unheard off among most Muslims. If it wasn't for the youtube, most Muslims won't even thing of these.

 

BUT

USA is willing to see Iraq be destroyed by Qa'ida of militia that USA itself helped in its formation, training AND arming very very very recently. USA and Isareal are both killing Muslims around the world, occupying Muslim lands and placing many humiliating conditions on them.

Last one is the condition that the US put to help Iraq: US will not help Iraq against ISIS (the heart eating clan friends of McCain) UNLESS Iraq chose a Prime minister that is acceptable by the minority sunnis, even if that prime minister will not work for the interest of the majority Shia

US will not help Iraq unless Iraq forms a government that dose not execlude anyone!

Is Baghdadi included in this "anyone?"

Is Ezzat Dawri included in this anyone

Is the traitor brazani included? Of course, only when Kurdistan was raided by ISIS, the US drone start working against ISIS. (Though I am very skeptical, we saw how the Qa'ida is not eliminated but only being moved from one area to another with great connivence).

 

 

After all these FACTS O blinds of the world, why would the Muslims in middle east be any skeptical if pieces of news like the above ones surfaced? What's the difference between Baghdadi being an israeli product or Usa Qaida product?

What's the difference between Barazani , the known Mossad agent who helped ISIS enter Iraq, who stole the oil of Iraq, who denied the Iraqi common refugees entrance to Kurdistan but is making Kurdistan a safe heaven for every Iraqi traitor starting from Athil Nujaifi ?

 

Call him Shimon, call him Ibrahim, Call him Baghdadi…… What's the difference ?

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Call him Shimon, call him Ibrahim, Call him Baghdadi…… What's the difference ?

 

The terms in which the ground reality is framed makes all the difference. Saying he's an Israeli Zionist called Elliot Shimon imported to make poor helpless Muslims look bad is not the same as saying the US and it's proxies clandestinely used him and his group to their own advantage, for their own ends. One deflects the blame from Muslims' own wrongdoings and heaps it in toto on the shoulders of the outsiders; the other apportions responsibility of the current mess to different parties involved in the conflict.

 

In any case, we know of the Takfiris having been supported and armed to chase off Assad in Syria. It didn't work. Now the same group decided to try their luck with Maliki's government in Baghdad because it's a Shia government. I don't think the US wants to undo its work by deliberately diverting the Takfiri zombies on Iraq and then going on to bomb them. But when that happened the US and its allies stepped in to get any number of benefits from the crisis as they could, something they are wont to do, and buying off of Kurdish loyalty is part of the hedge bet in case Iraq breaks into smithereens.

 

As I said before, if Muslim community wasn't so disposed to violent ideological hangovers and if it didn't create sell outs by the millions the foreigners couldn't do jack. The rot lies inside the so called ummah, and when I point it out and suggest we put our own house in order first, many people feel injured and start listing American foreign policies.

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The terms in which the ground reality is framed makes all the difference. Saying he's an Israeli Zionist called Elliot Shimon imported to make poor helpless Muslims look bad is not the same as saying the US and it's proxies clandestinely used him and his group to their own advantage, for their own ends. One deflects the blame from Muslims' own wrongdoings and heaps it in toto on the shoulders of the outsiders; the other apportions responsibility of the current mess to different parties involved in the conflict.

 

 

As I said before, if Muslim community wasn't so disposed to violent ideological hangovers and if it didn't create sell outs by the millions the foreigners couldn't do jack. The rot lies inside the so called ummah, and when I point it out and suggest we put our own house in order first, many people feel injured and start listing American foreign policies.

Salam i think you've highlighted the problem with these conspiracy theories-it keeps us from seeing the problems within us.

As they say with addiction, the first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem.

 

As long as we keep blaming every single bad thing in the Ummah on zionists and Americans (no matter how true it is), i don't think we'll ever have a hard look at ourselves and see what causes a young Muslims boy to want to blow himself up and kill innocent people or these other atrocities, and then try to fix that.  Rather we'll just say #YahoodiSazish

 

 

والله المتسعان وهو أعلم

Edited by ImamAliLover

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What a load of nonsense. The way he looks, the way he speaks, he's Iraqi. Amazing the kind of rubbish that spreads around the internet that people believe and at the end of the day we look like a bunch of gullible fools.

Like when so many people got sucked into that whole "Arrivals" thing and it turned out to be a front for Ahmad al-Hasan

You don't need to be 'Israeli' to be an intelligence agent. Like with Osama. Elliott Shimon would be his agent name, not his actual name.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me either. Are you saying the powers that be wouldn't be capable, or consider, starting up a phony caliphate? What better way to further the divide between Shia and Sunni? Now we have a takfiri caliphate, and unfortunately some Sunnis are foolish enough to buy into this al-Baghdadi nonsense...

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Two items:

 

1) A friend came and told me al-Baghdadi is "a jew" , a little different 'turn' than this thread, but same theme.

 

2) I saw a Vice News video of an IS/ISIS/ISIL recruiting rally. They were harping the "72 virgins" cwappola. Sooooooo...

 

IS/ISIS is therefore not 'fundamentalist', but sufi. Which would help explain why they have people coming in from Kazakstan(confirmed), China(confirmed) plus probably Tajikistan, as well as the ones we know from all across North Africa.

Edited by hasanhh

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Salam i think you've highlighted the problem with these conspiracy theories-it keeps us from seeing the problems within us.

As they say with addiction, the first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem.

 

As long as we keep blaming every single bad thing in the Ummah on zionists and Americans (no matter how true it is), i don't think we'll ever have a hard look at ourselves and see what causes a young Muslims boy to want to blow himself up and kill innocent people or these other atrocities, and then try to fix that.  Rather we'll just say #YahoodiSazish

 

 

والله المتسعان وهو أعلم

Of course, lets blame the child who was born in poverty, who will not get an educational chance, who will not get a chance to make a profitable trade or craft due to the nature of trade and crafts these days, who maybe due to his childhood malnourishment ended up with lower mental abilities than that can make him climb up the social status ladder. Lets blame his father and mother for bringing him to life, lets blame the poor for having hope in life and continue to breed, lets blame Allah for creating such incompetent creatures but lets forget about the tyranny which is withholding most of the wealth and power, enslaving millions of people through true slavery, wage slavery and like you, cultural slavery where we are directed to blame the victim and forget the criminal.

 

Who is in charge today of the worlds affairs? Human rights? International court? Mainstream media? Military bases all over the globe? transcontinental corporations ? Who is selling you food, water, cloths, gas, books, net, pure air, peace, war etc?

We live in unipolar world with one power taking the role of policing it. It should be fully responsible not the poor common people , not the puppet governments. Our brains should be sharp and focus on our enemy instead of adopting mental self beating habit.

 

And if you want to blame Muslims, you better look at yourself. A muslim who is educated, have time and money to sit online and spend some hours chatting. A muslim who is far better than many poor ones out there. If those poor people asked you to talk on their behalves , would you blame them for being lazy? 

Edited by IbnSohan

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These al-qaeda, isis, ... are mainly some distorted versions of political reading of Islam planned to isolate the successful one, the revolution of Imam Khomeini.

West couldn't ruin and redirect the awakening movement in Muslim world any better than creating some terrorist zombies among some poor uneducated muslims and ultimately make people around the glob equate political Islam with some backward barbaric terrorism.

It's sad that even many good Muslims believe Islam is incapable of having a political dimension.

West and its paid agents have ruined political Islam.

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These al-qaeda, isis, ... are mainly some distorted versions of political reading of Islam planned to isolate the successful one, the revolution of Imam Khomeini.

West couldn't ruin and redirect the awakening movement in Muslim world any better than creating some terrorist zombies among some poor uneducated muslims and ultimately make people around the glob equate political Islam with some backward barbaric terrorism.

It's sad that even many good Muslims believe Islam is incapable of having a political dimension.

West and its paid agents have ruined political Islam.

Yes, and now, with ISIS they're trying to ruin the concept of caliphate...

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Yes, and now, with ISIS they're trying to ruin the concept of caliphate...

They don't care whether it is called caliphate or Imamate, in fact they don't give a damn about it being sunni or shia, they just want to ruin political Islam, let it be caliphate or Imamate. As a matter of fact this stupid division has helped them a lot in their plan.

So far they have been successful.

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They don't care whether it is called caliphate or Imamate, in fact they don't give a damn about it being sunni or shia, they just want to ruin political Islam, let it be caliphate or Imamate. As a matter of fact this stupid division has helped them a lot in their plan.

So far they have been successful.

 

It's true, and it's reached a point where many Muslims even fear the idea of Islam being involved in politics. Where now even a legitimate Islamic movement like what happened in Iran would be looked at the same as these groups, and opposed by Muslims.

 

And the division is their most effective tool right now and we're seeing the consequences today... And still, many are blinded by this division to see the damage it's causing to both sides. What better way to further the divide than by creating a "Sunni caliphate" that oppresses and kills Shia Muslims?

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Ya Ali Madad,

 

As we got that the Daesh is now going to be operated in Pakistan and specially in Karachi too. We also heard the below;

 

that the most Leaders of Pakistani Taalban have been joined Daesh.

that about 55% members of MQM belongs to Sipah-e-Sahaba.

that 99% Daruoluloom belongs to Taalban/Sipah-e-Sahaba.

that many guys who are in Pakistani Forces also belongs with these terror groups. As the result came at Mehran Base, GHQ

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