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(salam)

Not much change. Couple of items:

 

Friday, 26Sept2014:

 

1] WashingtonPost, 26Sept14, 0317EDT, "A professor in U.S. is telling Liberians that the Defense Department 'manufactured' Ebola"

by Terrence McCoy

 

Opine  :realangery:  You have to read the entire article, but you will need to 'search' by title. I couldn't get the info for a link. This "ass-ociate professor" in Deleware, who comes from Liberia, named Broderick wrote this hokey piece of maliciousness criminality.

 

2] Another :mad: Opine: what is he thinking? Or...Maybe they should think !

.   in NewsOK.com, Associated Press, NYC, 26Sept14 1758EDT,  "Ivory Coast lifts Ebola flight Restrictions"  :no:

Opine:  NOT GOOD --- Fomites and Ebola contamination on the returning luggage.

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(salam)

 

Sun28Sept14:

 

1]  RT.com, et alia, 27Sept14, 1501Moscow, "Top Liberian doctor goes under Ebola Quarantine"

------- Liberia's chief medial officer after her associate died. This is a precaution

 

2] CNN, 27Sept14, 1457GMT, "Doctor treats Ebola with HIV drug --seemingly successfully", by Elizabeth Cohen-Chief Medical Correspondent

------- 15 patients were treated with lamivudine -- "a nucleocide analog"

------13 survived, the difference was suvivors infected 3-5 days earlier, deaths were 5-8 days earlier

---this article misstates that this is a "7% motality rate" with this procedure; it is 13.3bar%

 

3] Al-Jazeera, 27Sept14, 1456hrs?, "Guinea residents 'refusing' Ebola treatment"

------ in Conarchy, people are "...afraid...for fear of being poisoned by doctors."

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(salam)

 

Mon, 29Sept14:

 

1] Ref to posts which shows no change in US' mission or attitude: 120; also 109 #s 3,4,6; 112 #8; 118 #2;

.    Wall Street Journal, 28Sept14 2006EDT, by Drew Hinshaw -who is in Robertsville, Liberia

------ For the World's response to the Ebola Crisis, the "...concerns(are)...the pace isn't fast enough..."

----- under AFRICOM, a detachment from the USNavy's 133rd Mobile Construction Battalion is grading and draining the ground for the tent hospital; they had displaced from Djibouti;

----- from the article, it is determined that the US mission has not changed;

---- Treatment : "New centers are filling up as quickly as they are built."

--- "The clinic will only hold 25 beds, and not for ordinary Liberians: just health workers. US officials hope it will entice other countries to send their own nurses and doctors." (italics and boldface added -ed.)

.       Opine: why not medical personnel from the US?

-- paraphrase and quote: This month (Sept14) USAID helped Liberia build a "war room" out of  a telecom conference room. "The US aid agency had 12 tables wooden built."  and fixed the plumbing. :cry:

- Characterizing the results from this "war room" by quoting James Darkah Jallah, coordinator for Liberia's EBOLA TASK FORCE, "It's not possible (to get things done). Everybody's gone home."

 

2] ABC News, 28Sept14, 1426EDT, "Chasing Ebola Patients in Liberia"

------about checkpoints and a Bishop's son staying with a "community healer"

 

3] Detroit News, 28Sept 0003EDT, "Ebola takes toll on West Africa in Metro Detroit"

------ a feature on the Detroit local Liberia-connected community

 

4] :mad:, it is Hez- :shaytan: : Center for Globalization, globalresearch.org Cf posts 124#1; 137#1; 138#3

------ title: "Ebola and the 'Rapid Vaccine Response', The US Gov't filed for Patent of Ebola in 2009, 'Now Owns All Victims' Blood' "

---- Cites Broderick in the posts above

--- Cites, among others, Biodefense.com

-Opine: This kinda maliciousness ain't gonna help anyone

 

5] Voice of America, 26Sept14, 1321EDT, "Exclusive: No Ebola Treament at Sierra Leone Holding Center"

------ people are on a "filthy" University building's floor in Makeni, Sierra Leone

---- Medicin san Frontiers at Kailahui is 16 hours away; reports that on one shuttle to there, 25 left and 4 then died during the trip

--Ref post 113#4

 

6] Ref to posts 72, 112#5 and 116#4 & 124#7--contains the MSF "slam" at Australia

------ The State, Canberra (AP), 29Sept14, "Australia won't send Ebola doctors to West Africa"

---- because :lol:  "...Australia could not safely evacuate Australian health workers back home."  :lol:

 

7] Awareness Times, Sierra Leone, is back online

 

8] Nigerian Tribune did not come-up

 

 

Opine: Thinking about "another opinion" -post 135- at this point, West Africa has three additional things to do:

 

#1:  Ref to posts 77(26Aug) and post 95(30Aug), 132#5b; the gestation for dogs averages 63 days, or "9 weeks", West Africa needs to start killing out the dogs especially, because of their behaviors around people and are "immuned" carriers. Poison or shoot and burn.

And after the rainy season ends, square-off selected areas and apply "Joshua Rules" (Joshua, Chapter 8) for every animal and plant (plants are also fomites)

 

 

#2  Ref to post 121, Flies and Fomites;

Roads there are "linear latrines". These roadsides need to be burned over. In housing areas, electronic fly traps to kill flies done this way: all other lights out for an hour at Sun-set, and the traps remain  "ON"  all night. {We had one in the cattle barn. We would have about a pound + of flies every morning to empty out.} Then the dead flies are burned.

Insecticide is only good for small areas. Larvacide is only good for "spot treatments".

 

#3 Iran: Iran has "10,000 unemployed doctors" because Iran's medical schools have produced so many.

.------- Somebody come-up with the funding and hire several hundred of these doctors. Many speak English or French.

-----Ref post 122#10

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(salam)

 

Tues, 30Sept14:

 

Some News first:

 

1]  allAfrica.com, 30Sept  "Liberians Use Artificial PPE to Aid Ebola Patients"

------ plastic bags for hands, feet, head

----- "Person-to-person transmission has been described as one of fastest means of spreading Ebola virus in Liberia..."

---Note: never any mention -here or elsewhere in media- of flies or fomites

 

2] ABC News, 30Sept14, 0610EDT  "Nigerian Ebola Hoax Results in Two Deaths"

----- and 20 hospitalized

---- the prank urged people "...to drink excessive amounts of salt water."

--- SYMPLUR -a company that tracks health information on Twitter  using keywords: Ebola, salt water, drinking

-- Informa Telecoms says 70% of Nigerians have a cell phone

 

3]  9News (CO -Gannett) 29Sept, 2227 MDT, "Dallas Hospital isolates possible Ebola patient"

 

Two good articles:

 

4]  Vox, 30Sept14, 0850 EDT, by Julius Bellug; "The Man who discovered Ebola on why this epidemic spiraled out of control"

---- Dr. Peter Piot of Antwerp, former under-secretary general at the United Nations and now Director, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine

--- "It took 1,000 deaths before a public health emergency was declared, and cynically, it took two American doctors to become infected."

-- because of the poor public health system(s) the first case was in December (2013) but "...only diagnosed..." in March

- this epidemic "...is changing the paradigm..." and attention to rare diseases is increased

the biggest public health risk is "...pandemic flu..."

 

5] Time.com, " 5 Reasons We May Never Know Ebola's True Impact", 30Sept14, 0600EDT, by Jack Linshi

------ 1: Most Ebola Cases aren't reported

------------------ CDC "believes" there are 1.5 cases per 1 reported case

 

------ 2: Adjusting the projected numbers is extremely difficult

------------------ (what we have been reading and what organizations and gov'ts are using -ed.'s explanatory) is "...based on data from only one day in only one country --Liberia..." (underline added -ed.) ( Flies and Fomites, etc  not included -ed.)

 

------ 3: The Projection, based on a slice of data from Liberia, was applied to all of West Africa

 

------ 4: Much of the data coming from West Africa is likely inaccurate or incomplete

------------------- data came "...from 4 different uncoordinated streams resulting in several overlaps and duplicated numbers."

------------------- many deaths "were not properly documented", exempli gratia: reported deaths verses burials

 

------ 5: Projecting all the way to January is difficult

------------------- because projecting in epidemiology, "It's a bit like weather prediction"

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^ Hello,

 

In the state of Texas no less!  Repenter warned us they were all "big idiots" in that state.  Every single one.

 

I hope the rumors are not true.  I hope he was not an ice cream salesman at Dallas Cowboy games!  :no:

 

All the Best,

David

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David,

 

I saw this on PBS nearly two hours ago. This was the lead. Frieden of the CDC spoke, yet there was no personal info. As I remember the cited article (or same story/other) the victim is in Presbyterian Hospital.

 

I do not know if this hospital has prepared facilities like the one somewhere above in Michigan.

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30Sept14 -Sup 2222EDT

 

Since the first Ecase -which is not a medical evacuation- has occurred in the US/Texas-Dallas, about all of tonight's "news" is of the "do not panic"  variety.

 

How does that old adage go? "When they say, 'don't panic', RUN !"

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O10ct2014:

 

This mornings E-news is nearly all the hype and fluff over the E-victim now in Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. Inshallah, he'll recover.

 

One update:

 

CNN, 30Sept14, 2252GMT "Ebola Fast Facts"

 

as of 29Sept: there are confirmed 3,385 E-deaths and 5,987 E-cases.   About 300 more E-deaths since 26Sept.

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02Oct14:

 

Follow-on: several publications are reporting 3,338 deaths and 7,178 cases

 

1] Reference back to 115#2, 122#12 and 104#5, 107#6

..... NewsMax, Wed, 01Oct14, 0817EDT, "Glaxo's Ebola Vaccine -Turned Down by WHO- Now Best Hope Amid Outbreak"

-------- "Glaxo and Johnson&Johnson are preparing thousands of doses of their experimental vaccines to test in Africa as early as January" (there is a mention of the ethical questions -ed)

------ quoting Peter Piot (post 141#4 -ed), "It may be that without a vaccine we can't really stop this epidemic."

----- "When Glaxo contacted the WHO in March, the vaccine was seen as a 'diversion of energy' at a time when it was believed that the outbreak would be controlled with traditional measures, such as contact tracing and safe burials, that helped contain every previous outbreak, said Marie-Paule Kelly, the WHO's Director-General for Health Systems and Innovation." (italics added -ed.)

---- a description of Glaxo reassigning 20 people to Ebola research

--- research and production of 10 thousand doses by January is funded by Wellcome Trust, the Medical Research Council and the UK gov't

-- research labs were "essentially starting from zero" in August and the resources were from the $234 million Okairos AG acquisition in 2013 when WHO went to Glaxo

- based on a chimpanzee cold virus with a small piece of Ebola gene spliced in

- Ebola, discovered in 1976, "few researchers were pursuing a vaccine until after Sept 11, 2001" when Congress started funding defense against bio-terrorism

-Ref to post 117: "The US gov't passed an act in 2004 to set aside $5.4 Billion over 10 Years for stockpiling of drugs and vaccines..." for bio-terrorism; plus millions for research through NIH

- "All of a sudden there is all this money...When you have more money, you take more risks", said Thomas Geisbert, an early Ebola researcher at University of Texas, who began researching in the 90s

 

2a] Reuters, 01Oct14, 2306GMT, "Dallas Ebola patient vomited outside apartment on way to hospital"

----- "on the ground" outside amid a chaotic scene;

----no info on what happen inside the apartment or in the hallways

-- Opine: see post 121 #1 & #3 on residual contamination after clean-ups; now, think about people in "hot Texas" wearing sandals, flip-flops and children in their bare-feet :sick:

2b] wfaa.com, WFAA8 ABC/Gannett, 01Oct14, 1907CDT; "Miles: 5 DSID students possibly exposed to Ebola", Ref to post 112#5

----- School Superintendent Mike Miles

---- 4 schools involved

2c] NHK, Nihon, "Newsline" 02Oct14, 0608 EDT: Is reporting that despite first and second reports, Thom Duncan, the E-Victim, travelled from Monrovia to Bruxells(7hour layover) to Washington,D.C. (time of layover not said) and then on to Dallas.

 

3a] New York Times, 01Oct14, "Outpacing vows of Aid, Ebola swamps a city in Sierra Leone", by Adam Nossiter; Ref to posts 104#3, 110#7

3b] Business Insider, One Horrifying Sentence Explains Why Ebola Has Spread So Quickly", by Pamela Engel, 02Oct14, 0449EDT; is an opinion piece based on the NYT article; Ref to posts 107#5, 113#4;

--- The Sentence: " Nurses, some not wearing gloves and others in street clothes, clustered by the door as pools of the patients' bodily fluids spread to the threshold." :sick: :mad: :sick:

-- In the NYT article is the picture of a little girl lying on the floor in urine

-- one incident, a patient was kicked to see if they were still alive

 

-- No stories in Nigerian Tribune not already mentioned

 

4] BBC News, 01Oct14 2142EDT, "Ebola Outbreak: 'Five Infected Every Hour' in Sierra Leone"

------source: Save the Children

 

5] Awareness News -headlines:

------01Oct14: "Kailahun 95%on top of Ebola Outbreak"

----01Oct14:  "'Not a Single Case of Ebola has gone past screening measures at Lung Int'l Aiport': Lagus Koroma, Minister of Transportation and Aviation"

---30Sept14: "Confused Citizens Blame Snake, Witch Plane, Water Well Poisoning for Ebola Deaths" ---witches and snakes

--other headlines describe "clashes with police", some political infighting

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Fri,03Oct14:

 

Several different kinds of stories:

 

1] Reuters, 03Oct14 "Prescription for avoiding Ebola airport screening: Ibuprofen", by Sharon Begley

------people get through airports with lies and ibuprofen, say health care experts

---- "fever screening instruments run low and are not that accurate"

-- "Virologist Heinz Feldman of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has studied Ebola for years and helped develop an experimental Ebola vaccine. He told Science magazine in September that airport screeners in Monrovia, where he spent three weeks, "Don't really know how to use the devices" ."

 

2a] Reuters, 02Oct14, "Four people close to US Ebola Patient quarantined in Dallas", by Lisa Maria Garza

------ they are under court order and police guard

--- Note; this article is a good summary of events around T.E. Duncan

2b] theguardian.com, "US Ebola Patient's friends quarantined under armed guard", 03Oct14, 0424EDT

2c :sick: ] breitbart.com, summarizing a CNN article, 02Oct14, "CNN: US Ebola Patient was vomiting when initially released from hospital", by Frances Martel

------ hospital: it was "abdominal pain"

----Opine: from what I posted in post 121, Flies and Fomites, this contamination could be anywhere in the city of Dallas

 

-The US 'dillitary' in Liberia:

 

3a] New York Times, 02Oct14, " US aid effort in Liberia Barely Off the Ground as Ebola Rages", by Helene Cooper

------ a broken gravel crusher, because the Navy is relying on "local contractor"

----- the backhoe goes out, another military/dillitary decision to rely on local resources

--**- at an airport still damaged by Liberia's civil war, Robertsfield, the US military plans on using C-17s (the humongo(us) -ed) on a World War 2 era runway with holes like "craters"  :lol:

Opine: the last I read, the Pentagon has 24,000 colonels and 1100+ flag officers, and not one bellhop thought to use a satellite photo and advance parties to survey the situation??? :no:  :lol:   Maybe they dillitary should read ShiaChat above on C-5As, or use C-130s

3b} The Leaf-Chronicle, from Army Times, 30Sept14, 0935CDT, by Andrew Tilghman, "Fort Campbell troops headed to Liberia to fight Ebola"

------ 700 from the 101st Division

----- 700 from mostly combat engineer units

---- to build 17, 100-bed hospitals

 

-Hospital Waste-

- Note, in the late 1980s because the EPA banned hospital incinerators because of air-pollution concerns, hospitals could no longer burn their infectious waste. In a tragic incident --in Indianapolis as I remember the 'where'-- children found discarded hypodermic needles in the trash outside the hospital and began to "play doctor' with them. They all got AIDs.

 

4a] Waste Management World, "Should the UK Rethink Medical Waste Handling Following Ebola Outbreak?", by Ben Messenger

------ there are too many "touch points" in the current "waste disposal chain"

---- there are already thousands who die from hospital infections every year

 

4b] thehill.com, 02Oct14, 1226EDT, "Ebola Waste disposal poses concern", by Ellise Viebeck,

------- quote: "Earlier this year, Emory University Hospital in Atlanta took the extraordinary step of storing Ebola Waste in plastic bins from Home Depot while a disposal agreement was brokered. [np] Advocates said having an autoclave, or sterilizer, at Dallas hospital would immediately address the problem."

 

4c] Forbes, 01Oct14, 0640, "Ebola in America: One Hospital Just Treated Three Ebola Patients --And Already Cured Two of Them"

------ quote: "At its peak (of handling the Dr. Brantly Ebola case -ed.), we were up to 40 bags a day of medical waste, which took a huge toll on our waste management system, according to Dr. Aneesh Mehta. But Emory's waste management company wasn't willing to take the infectious waste off of Emory's hands, at first.

.                   ( The company's decision to say no was shielded by federal law, which requires that Ebola-related waste must be handled with special packaging and by people with special training.)"   [parentheses in original, underlines added -ed.]

 

-It is the Money, again--

 

5] CBC News, Manitoba, 03Oct14, 0636CT, " Could Ebola Vaccine delay be due to an intellectual property spat?"

------ Canada owns the patent for an experimental vaccine

---- New Link Genetics, in the US and has licensing rights, is "worried about losing control over the development of the vaccine".

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01Oct14 #2:

 

WHO:  3,439 deaths;     7,492 suspected cases

 

Those with laboratory confirmation: 2,075 deaths confirmed Ebola, and 4,108 cases confirmed

 

The CFR as of 23Sept14 was 70%

 

2d] NBC News, " 'No Excuse' : Cleanup Starts After Delay at Ebola Victim's Apartment", by Maggie Fox

------ 5 days of "Red tape and arguments"

--- "There's no excuse", for this said Thomas Skinner, a spokesman for the CDC

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(salam)

 

Sorry, the date just above should be 03Oct14,#2

 

Most news is mostly puff pieces on Dallas and the US public health system, and the standard "don't panic" theme.

 

1] Military Times (Gannett) 03Oct14, 1539hrs, "Pentagon opens Ebola-testing lab in Liberia"

------- will be manned by the Naval Medical Research Center

----- the 25-bed "hospital" cited a few times above "is expected to be open 18October."

---- 2 treatment centers "...should be completed by the end of the month (October -ed.)"

--Note: see #3] below on additional mlty info

 

2] townhall.com, 03Oct14, by Joel B. Pollak, "Surgeon General Still Silent on Ebola"

 

3] McClatchy, 04Oct14, "White House reassures public on Ebola scare", by Tony Pugh and Anita Kumar

------  The White House:  "current safeguards were enough" :donno:

---- this event was a "rare...briefing on Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã Friday afternoon."

-- US mlty in West Africa will be increased to 4,000

 

Interesting piece about "current safeguards", pratices and protocols:

 

4] Wall Street Journal, Fri,03Oct14, 1849EDT; "Stopping Ebola Before It Turns Into a Pandemic", by Scott Gottlieb, (MD and former deputy-commissioner at the FDA) and Tevi Troy (formerly of Dept of Health and Human Services and president of the American Health Policy Institute)

---------- flu shots, were mentioned (on CBS Evening News Friday, the flu has many of the same symptoms as Ebola, so getting a flu shot will help reduce confusion)

------- "kinase inhibitors" is a method against Ebola because it works at the host level as opposed to a vaccine which targets markers on the virus' surface "that can change as Ebola mutates" (akin behavior as with malaria which changes its outer 'skin' to ward off attacking agents)

------ quote: "Yet too many public-health officials still believe that they can solve the crisis with tried-and-true methods to contain an outbreak that prioritize manpower over technology. Groups like the World Health Organization have been wrong at every turn in responding to the Ebola outbreak earlier this year. We can't take the chance that they again be miscalculating." (italics added -ed.)

-- Suggesting a "try it" protocol to battle Ebola in the "real world", the writers continue: "Conventional, randomized and double-blind clinical trials are not possible in the throes of an epidemic of deadly pathogens." (boldface added -ed)

- The writers continue saying this approach ("try it" -ed.) "...spreads the risk and guards against mass-producing a single product only to find out later it was a dud."

- Later, they write, "This is different than the FAD's 'safe and effective' standard."

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It looks as if this story will become more serious over time, so it may be useful to split off personal analysis and opinions from hard breaking news.

 

Please use the following thread for actual news items:

 

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235025665-ebola-breaking-news-only/

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(salam)

 

Sat,04Oct14 #2:

 

Ref to  post 121 item #6, a continuation on Fomites and Ebola (and apparently, other pathogens as well )

 

1] Applied and Environmental Microbiology, Oct2011, vol77, No.19, 6918-6925

.           "Comparison of Surface Sampling Methods for Virus Recovery from Fomites", by T.R.Julian, F.J.Tamayo, et alia

--- "The role of fomites...is difficult to discern due, in part, to the lack of information on the level and distribution of virus contamination on surfaces. Comparisons of studies intending to fill this gap are difficult because multiple different sampling methods are employed and authors rarely report their method's lower limit of detection." (underlines added -ed.)

 

Opine: it is becoming visible that the standard refrain about Ebola transmission has been limited to "ABC" (Avoid Body Contact), speculation about unlikely airborne transmission mutations, and limited acknowledgement about fomites. To wit:

 

2] cdc.gov, article copy of Emerging Infectious Diseases, vol 9, number 11, Nov2003

.             "Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever Transmission and Risk Factors of Contact, Uganda"

---- "A major mode of transmission was within hospitals, especially in the early stages of the outbreaks."

Opine: this remark does not bode well for Texas Presbyterian Hospital and Dallas

 

3] WHO/HSE/EPR/2009.2, "WHO experts consultation on Ebola-Reston pathogenity in humans", Geneva, 01Apr2009

------ p.11: There is "evidence of fomite transmission after 9 days with Zaire-Ebola." (italics added -ed)

 

4] www.. cfsph iastate edu , Biological Risk Management: Direct Control and Fomite Transmission -Dairy

-----control vehicular traffic as vehicles (tires and undersides, especially) carry pathogens

--- "Prevent cats and dogs from roaming between farms." (boldface added -ed.)

- Slide 19 Direct Control, Fomite: isolate sick; keep environment clean; keep equipment clean; (which includes vehicular traffic, Slide 7)

 

Before 1] above, T.R.Julian wrote a dissertation,

 

5] http://stacks.stanford.edu; "Fomites in Infectious Disease Transmission: A Modeling, Laboratory, and Field Study on Microbial Transfer Between Skin and Surfaces", 2011, a dissertation by Timothy Ryan Julian

----------- in the Abstract:  "The role of indirect contact in disease spread is poorly understood in part because the transmission route of viral pathogens is often difficult to determine."

-------- in Method:  "Fomite-mediated transmission; used Bacteriophage (fr, MS2 and phiX174) as proxies, using 650 transfer events from 20 volunteers; study concluded that 23% "of recoverable virus is readily transferred from a contaminated surface (fomite) to an uncontaminated surface (e.g. finger) on contact. (boldface and italics added -ed.)

------ /Sec 1.2  -agent lives long enough for the fomite to be a viral infector

-----/Sec 1.3 -- infectiousness varies with porosity of the surface; in this study non-porous borosilicate glass was used;

.-----Chap 1:   From the 1970s with RSV research {Respiratory Syncytial Virus -ed.) as RSV was moving through hospitals, research on fomites began anew. "The general acceptance of the role of fomites in infectious disease transmission was highlighted (at)...First European Meeting Environmental Hygiene in Dusseldorf in 1987." Research into fomites abated in the 1990s and resurged in 2004.

---------- "...the contribution of fomites (to disease transmission -ed) continues to be debated" (citing Brankston, 2007)

---------- "Research to characterize the role of fomites prompted by a concern over a future pandemic, has mirrored the early work on both rhinovirus and RSV." (underline added -ed.)

------Chap 2.1  An item of interest: "Virus transfer (via fomites -ed) is significantly influenced by virus species and time since last handwashing. ...Virus transfer...is reduced for recently washed hands." (underline added -ed) This is because of the ion changes on the skin.

-------- "Conclusions: Viruses are readily transferred between skin and surface on contact."

-------- "Discussion: transfer depends on direction and (gripping) pressure, but also depends on viral species; on the "concentration gradient" as in equation 3.2; on time (Chap3.5.2) and on viral particle density (Chap 6.1)

------Chap 4.2 "...fomites such as carpets, towels and medication-cart items...primary cause of multiple outbreaks."

------Chap 6 Conclusions

---------Chap6.1 non-porous surface contact, virus transferred (amount -ed) is then of "similar order of magnitude as the original level of contamination."

---------Conclusion #3: "Virus sampling methods on fomites should be standardized."

Note: this is a theme of 1] above

-Note: Ebola is listed in Appendix B, with one incidence in two studies.

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I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak

 

Guardian interview with person who discovered Ebola.

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(salam)

 

Hajj2003: Liked the article. Thanks.

 

I wasn't surprised the nuns spread the disease with uncleaned, used needles. Goes with the hospital comments quoted above.

 

I do disagree that because we are in the West, Ebola will be contained.

 

I am sketching a "decontamination" scenario, which insahllah I'll post later.

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(salam)

 

for 04 Oct14

 

Added Note to post 152 #3: the victim was place on a mattress previously used by an Ebola victim 9 days later and contracted the disease.

 

Added note to post 153, Piot is also interviewed in post 141

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Yes, Marbles, she got it from the priest. The EU is demanding an complete explanation. One suggestion on 07Oct/0700 news is that she did not have the proper gloves. Her husband is not quarantined.

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(salam)

 

Tues,07Oct14:

 

 

1] MisInformation Note: "single-virus" hype,

Articles over this past weekend pretend that a 'single virus' (one viron of Ebola -ed.) is enough to contract EHV.

exempli gratia: a] CNN, 03Oct14 1443GMT, "Lab experiments on non-human primates suggest that even a single virus may be enough to trigger a fatal infection", paragraph 3 ; and, Washington Post, 04Oct14, "Can you catch Ebola from an infected blanket?", by Joel Achenbach, paragraph 21.

Apparently, the "single virus" hype came from sciencedaily.com/release/2009... in a post entitled "One Virus Particle Enough to Cause Infectious Disease", by Wageningen University.

The basic problem with this is that that single viron must make first contact with an infectable cell, which is essentially very, highly unlikely unless that viron is injected into tissue, as was done in the "experiment".

 

2] :wacko: article, do not believe: from Natural Health 365, naturalhealth.com, "Surprising Solution for Ebola Virus'

--------- misinformingly, vitamin C  :wacko:

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(salam)

 

07Oct14:

 

Some interesting Bio-Tech info:

 

SOIL

 

1] Immunoassays in Agricultural Biotechnology, Guomin Shah ed., 2011

------------ "When a protein enters the soil it will quickly bind to soil particles..." (the strength of bounding correlates with clay and clay-mineral content)

------ biodegradation (includes viruses) by metals, pp.262ff

----- p.263: "...on high or low soil pH may cause protein deactivation. The acids (or) bases disrupt salt-bridges held together by ionic charges."

Question 1: Does altering soil pH have a deactivating/degradation effect on Ebola? (Some viruses inactivated by low pH and other viruses by high pH)

 

2] Journal of Applied Microbiology, vol.100 Issue 2, Feb 2008, pp.365-374; Davis, C.M. et alia

.    "Soil inactivation of DNA viruses in septic seepage"

------ Soil moisture does not significantly affect virus inactivation rates, it is the soil's "Biotic Status"

----- 23% of US Households have on-site or small scale sewage treatment

---- States that most research examines the mitigation of viruses through soils and contamination potential; for example, citing Janson et alia (1989) Water Resources, 23, 293-299: soil penetration of viruses varies with the virus and ranges from 1/2 meter to 3 meters

--- to prevent viral contamination of surface water  (here, emphasis on septic (tank) seepage -ed.) soil acidity, as low pH accelerates inactivation

Question 1: Does additional chlorination mitigate Ebola in a septic system effectively?

Question 2: Does this concern about "contamination of surface water" apply in the same way to landfills?

Question 3: Is there significant difference in "Biotic Status" inactivating viruses between 'normal' top soil and the sodding around urban construction?

 

Hospital, Clinics and Offices--Autoclave Effectiveness

 

3] Abstract at: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov: Journal of Hospital Infections , 2001, Jul; 48(3), 180-185; "Autoclave performance and operator knowledge of autoclave use...", by Coulter, W.A., Chew-Graham, C.A., et alia

----- one result of this study was: "...19% did not routinely monitor autoclave effectiveness..."

**Note: Cf post 148 on hospital waste

 

from: WHO.int/mediacenter/

 

"What we know about transmission of the Ebola virus among humans", 06Oct14

extracted info:

----- "...the virus can persist in semen for at least 70 days; one studt suggests persistence for more than 90 days."

Note:  Until then, it was 50 days

 

----"In studies of saliva, the virus was found most frequently in a patients' at a severe stage of illness." Ref post 121 #1

 

--- "The whole live virus has never been isolated from sweat." (post 3)

 

--- "The Ebola virus can also be transmitted indirectly, by contact with previously contaminated surfaces and objects. The risk from these surfaces is low and can be reduced even further by appropriate cleaning and disinfection procedures."

 

-- "Ebola ...is not an airborne infection. (ed: What there is of) Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious does of virus from (an aerial -ed) suspended clound of small dried droplets."

**Note: like Hanta virus?; see post 16

 

-- a summation: respiratory droplets are infectious

 

 

--

 

 

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Medline Plus, US Nat'l Library of Medicine, N.I.H.  nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001339.htm -undated

 

Ebola hemorrhagic fever

 

------"The disease can be passed to humans from infected animals and animal materials." {materials such, as with Hanta virus, dried urine or feces that become airborne? -ed. question}

 

----- "There is no known cure. Existing medicines that fight viruses (antivirals) do not work well against Ebola virus."

 

----- "Bleeding problems may require transfusions of platelets or fresh blood."

 

---- "Patients usually die from low blood pressure (shock) rather than from blood loss."

 

---- "Survivors may have unusual problems, such as hair loss and sensory changes."

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(salam) a catch-up

 

08Oct14:

 

1] cdc.gov,  case counts as of 05Oct14: as of 05Oct 3865 deaths, 8033 cases --4461 lab confirmed

------from last date of 01Oct, 400+ more deaths in 4 days

 

2] Public Radio International, "p.r.i.", 08Oct14, 1715EDT, "Why doubling down on aid to West Africa will do more to halt Ebola than increased airport screening"

----quote: "But he (White House Spokesman Josh Earnest) said screening at African airports are the real key.

.                 That screening didn't stop Thomas Eric Duncan though."

Opine: :lol:   Refer to post 148 #1 on how ibuprofen and lying is being used to circumvent airport screening.

.                    And, refer to post 150 #3 on previous White House "assurances"

 

3] Another Filovidae, Marburg, has likely appeared in Uganda. Confirmation tests are underway. Previous tests positive.

 

4] The Independent, (UK), Wed,08Oct14, "Ebola Virus Outbreak: UK hospitals on standby as David Cameron holds a COBRA meeting", by Lizzie Dearden

-----4 hospitals

---- gov't's concerns: asking if "existing controls are adequate"

-- quote: "But Public Health England said it has no screening plans,..." (italics added -ed.), while, in summation, the gov't is saying a "we can handle it" position

 

.    Opine on 4]: the same day as Spain's PM is "answering questions" in Spain's Parliament and has the EU demanding answers, Cameron decides to hold a "what do we do now" meeting.

 

5] Town Hall, townhall.com, 08Oct14, "Kerry: World must 'step-up' anti-Ebola effort"

.-------"In an impassioned appeal..."

----- the Brit For Sec was also there

.   Opine: Then...the US must "put-up" !

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09Oct14:

 

1] :donno: Huffington Post, 09Oct14, 0805EDT,  another puff piece-ed.; "5Ways You Definitely Won't Get Ebola", by Anna Almendrata

-------- "On dry surfaces the virus lives for a few hours at most"

Opine: As documented above, it is 2 weeks

------ quoting the CDC's Frieden, "...public transportation via bus or plane is not a conduit for Ebola"

Opine: one article dated this week -and an Ebola victim in another article- say they were infect in a taxi; airline maintenance held a strike yesterday and today; also, these are confined spaces for cough-droplet transmission;

 

The "5" with comment

.1) Air --not like measles, mumps or influenza, it can be carried upon dust particles like Hanta

.2) Water -- this provides the liquid form for virus survival

.3) Food --if not properly washed; in 1999 it was speculated that it may be carried into the food by arthropods; fly contamination on raw food

.4) Insects -- even when inoculated, insects are not found to be a virus reservoir, but no study about on the insects; as above, leafhoppers are now known carriers

.5) Ebola Survivors except sexually -- in sex, the old 50 days was replace by 70 days and now 90 days (based on one study's suggestion), but long term surveys on stools and urine and saliva have not been done

 

2]The Independent, 09Oct14, "Ebola: 'British man dies of deadly virus in Macedonia one other taken ill' "

-------- British Foreign Office is " 'urgently' investigating"

---- people are being isolated

 

3] Chicago Tribune, 09Oct14, "Macedonia seals hotel after Briton dies of suspected Ebola"

----- the man had been in Skopje since 02Oct

--- samples going "to Germany for tests to confirm"

 

4] NBC News, 09Oct14, "Exclusive: First Ebola Vaccine Trial Starts in Africa"

------ 3 healthcare workers n Mali (will be the guinea pigs -ed.)

 

5] New York Times, 09Oct14, "Condition of Spanish Nurse Worsens"

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Tues, 21Oct14:

 

Updates and Factoids:

 

:)  Ref to #5 just above: CNN, 20Oct14 0704GMT (and DeutscheWelle) "Spanish nurse's aid found to be Ebola-free in third test", by Al Goodman

 

1] Washington Week, PBS, Fri10Oct14, Alexis Simendinger of RealClearPolitics, 150 people per day travel from West Africa to the US

 

2] health.USNews.com, 09Oct14, "Five Major US Airports to Screen Travelers from West Africa for Ebola", by Dennis Thompson (orig. Health Day News, 08Oct14)

 

3] Daily Mail, 14Oct14, 0011ET, "Bribery breaks out in battle against Ebola: Liberian victim's families paying corrupt retrieval teams to keep bodies so they can give them traditional burials"

----- for faked Death Certificates the cost runs $40-$150

 

4] CBS Evening News, Sun19Oct14,

--------  The CDC is currently monitoring 400 people for Ebola in the USA

--Comment: taken with post 112 #5 -"exposed" cases brought into US- this would explain the higher number -400- than recent media reports covered over the Texas Presbyterian Hospital stories.

 

5] USA Today, 14Oct14, 1046EDT, "WHO: Ebola cases could surge 10-fold in a few weeks"

 

6] NBC News, 20Oct14, "CDC Updates Ebola Protocol as Anxiety Rises", by Miranda Leitsinger

------ "The Pentagon is fielding a 30-person expeditionary medical support team to provide immediate assistance to civilian health professionals in the US if additional Ebola cases arise." (italics added --ed.)

---- 5 doctors, 20 critical care nurses, 5 trainers

 

7a] title only: "Hidden STD Epidemic: 110 Million Infections in the US", by Baber Ghollpour

 

7b] Business Insider, 19Oct14, "New York City's Rats Are Carrying Viruses No One's Seen Before", by Ajai Raj

----- this article is commenting on a Columbia University study:

------------- mBio, mbio.asm.org, 14Oct14, 2014 vol.5 no.5 mbio.01933-14: "Detection of Zoonotic Pathogens and Characterization of Novel Viruses Carried by Commensal Rattus norvegicus in New York City", by Cadhla Firth, et alia

---- 30 viral species (plus a variety of bacteria and parasites)

---- 18 viruses "previously unknown" ("unknown" is somewhat confusing/misleading. Some viruses are "unknown" to science, while others are "previously unknown to be in NYC" -including Seoul Hanta virus --ed.)

 

8] BBC NewsNight, Fri17Oct14

----- Peter Piot, ref to posts 141 #4 and post 153, said that there are 100,000,000 virons of Ebola in 1cc of blood (1ml)

---- add with post 158

 

9] citation lost, but the confusion over Aedes aegypti mosquitoes carrying Ebola originates from a study by "Kuntz" which "could not be replicated"

-----addendum: search "Kuntz + mosquitoes + Ebola" and several professional articles will appear

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Thurs, 23Oct14:

 

Note, at 2115EDT BBC News reported that Craig Spencer, MD who returned last week from working with Medicin sans Frontieres has tested positive for Ebola. CBS Evening News earlier reported that he was taken to Bellevue Hospital in New York City.

 

Some articles this week:

 

1] Forbes, 19Oct14, 2003EDT "Can Dogs Transmit Ebola? Different Approaches Explained", by Robert Glatter, MD

------ "...dogs can harbor Ebola and produce antibodies to the virus, it is unknown if they can transmit the disease."

----- dogs may be (it is uncertain, --ed. summation) the sources in Ebola multiple outbreaks that "...had an unknown source".(At several outbreaks in the DRC, Uganda, Sudan -no source/reservoir  was found)

---Ref to posts 139, 95 and 77

 

2] :wacko:Vox.com, Mon 20Oct14, 1030EDT, "The real lesson of Ebola in Dallas: this virus is very difficult to spread", by Julia Belluz

---Opine: this is really a feel-good-puff-piece

-------- the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for Ebola-Zaire -which is reportedly the Ebola-strain in West Africa- is 70%, not the 50% this article relates, as the CFR has been revised from previous statistical errors (Ref to posts 112#1; 127#4, 163#3)

------ the article's author express happiness that Duncan's family and fiancée are unaffected and out of quarantine --like the rest of US are.

---- a good quote from the article: "So the Texas situation should be a reminder of two things: first, health is truly global and viruses don't respect borders." ... "Second, the Dallas cases showed us that those most at risk -caregivers of the very sick- need to be protected."

Comment: the most at risk in the US maybe the caregivers, but as note in Post 163, #3, the insistence on "traditional funerals" is a deadly risk. Reportedly by BBC and PBS (23Oct), the "traditional funeral" consists of washing and touching the body, eating and sleeping in the same room with it, over a period of two weeks.

The article also has some info cards:

-- Card #2 is misleading about the hazard in touching fluids

-- Card #5 and Card #6 are good in showing the projected number of cases

-- Card #7 on food security, see post 134#5 for similar/same

 

On a very small sample, we have the puff-piece:

3] :no: Forbes, 21Oct14, 0644EDT, "The Ebola Fact You Haven't Heard: 80% of US Ebola-Patients Have Survived", by Dan Diamond

-----of 5 patients

 

4] CBS News, 20Oct14, 1500EDT "120 People now being monitored for Ebola in Texas"

------ "Officials said 43 of 48 people on an original watch list have passed the 21-day maximum incubation period..."

 

-->> 5] :(  Reuters, Wed 22Oct14, "Official WHO Ebola toll near 5,000 with true number nearer 15,000", by Tom Miles in Geneva

----- 4,877 deaths,  9,936 cases

---- 244 health care workers have died so far out of 443 cases

--- Number of isolation beds: 1,116,  but 4,388 needed in 50 (to be) Ebola Treatment Units; 30 of these to be staffed by foreign workers

--28 laboratories needed, with only 12 in place

- "...need 230 dead-body-management teams by Dec 1, ... they have 140"

 

  :cry: 6] Washington Post, 23Oct14, 0800ET, "As researchers develop Ebola-vaccine, early human clinical trials show promise"; SubTitled: "Bureaucratic  and Logistical challenges could threaten the testing phase of any vaccine in West Africa", by Brady Dennis

---- "Jeremy Farrar, director of London-based medical charity the Wellcome Trust, which helped fund the GSK vaccine and other Ebola research, says it's possible the epidemic has " gone beyond the capacity of tactics sauch as quarantining and contact tracing to stop its spread. We have to have a Plan B," he said."

--- "Anthony Fauci, head of NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, agrees that the Global Effort to stop the outbreak might not be sufficient or arrive quickly enough to halt the spread of Ebola in West Africa. "It is conceivable that you will actually need a vaccine to stop the epidemic", Fauci said. ..."

-- the article relates the debate within the health community about how to conduct these vaccine trials.

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A Turning Point for Ebola? Possible Reinfection?

Larry Hand

October 23, 2014

Although the global response to the Ebola virus outbreak in West Africa has been too slow and too small, this week may be a critical time in turning the tide, one expert says.

However, as a sign of how serious the Ebola epidemic is, other experts say that someone who is infected with Ebola virus and gets treated successfully may not be completely clear of the disease.

"Our ability to work out what to do in a decisive, well-coordinated manner lags well behind where it needs to be in the 21st century," Jeremy Farrar, MD, PhD, from Wellcome Trust, said during a webcast presented yesterday by the New England Journal of Medicine. "This week will be the week we look back on...where we got the coordination, the leadership."

Dr Farrar was one of six experts to speak during the webcast that spanned the topics of the route of transmission, environmental factors, possible novel therapeutics, restriction of flying, and history, impact, and extent of the epidemic.

He based his optimism on the stepped-up response by the United States, World Health Organization (WHO) efforts, United Nations efforts, and the pending responses by other countries such as China and Cuba.

Going forward, he said, a combination of classic public health practices, isolation of suspected and confirmed Ebola cases, and respect for the dignity of people in the most affected areas can help build a "robust, ethical framework and within a social context."

Reinfection, Reemergence Unknown

In response to a question from a webcast participant, experts discussed the possibilities of reinfection and reemergence of disease after initial clearance.

"We know that patients who have survived do have specific antibodies in their blood," said Armand Sprecher, MD, from Médecins Sans Frontières. "Of course, what we don't know is the threshold at which antibodies give you a surrogate marker of protection. It's possible we may gather that over the course of this epidemic, as we hopefully move toward vaccination."

Paul Farmer, MD, PhD, from Partners in Health, Boston, Massachusetts, added, "In Monrovia, a couple of children under 5 who had negative [polymerase chain reactions (PCRs) after treatment] then returned some weeks later with positive PCR.

"These are children who had a normal course of illness...and had a clinical recovery, and both of these children became ill in a day or two," Dr Sprecher continued. "They came back and were found to be febrile and [PCR-]positive again. Both children had some neurologic signs. The feeling amongst the virologists is...the virus gets into some parts of the body with immunologic protection, like the central nervous system. The immune response clears the virus from the periphery, the patient has a clinical recovery, while the viral infection progresses in the [central nervous system] and eventually returns and reemerges as a renewed positivity. At least one of the children became negative again."

Transmission Route Is Understood, Experts Say

"The vast evidence that we have is that the overwhelming route of transmission is through contact with contaminated fluids with broken skin or mucous membranes," said Arjun Srinivasan, MD, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). "There can be splashes that are involved, given the significant amount of diarrhea, the severe vomiting, but the issue of aerosol transmission is not thought to be an important route of transmission."

He continued, "The route that we need to protect against, most importantly, is contact with this infectious material, although the use of respiratory equipment would prevent that transmission in the healthcare setting."

As far as possible environmental exposures to Ebola virus, officials are not concerned, said Matthew Arduino, DrPH, from the CDC. "If there were significant airborne transmission we would see spontaneously generated cases that were not linked to a known case. There would be casual transmission."

New Cases 5000 Per Week in December

Christopher Dye, DPhil, from the WHO, said the index person for the current epidemic was identified on December 26, 2013, as a boy living in a wooded area who may have gotten the infection from a bat. The first recognition that this epidemic was truly dangerous, however, did not come until June 2014, when officials determined that this is an epidemic like none seen before.

At that time, the cases started doubling every 2 to 4 weeks, and the current number of cases hovers close to 10,000. He said 5000 cases a week are expected by early December for this "extraordinarily large-scale" epidemic, and "no country is safe."

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Money, History and Factoids article.

References to posts: 132 #12; 125 #2a; 122 #12; 115 #2; 107 #6; 98

Other post references are attached below.

 

New York Times, 23Oct14, "Ebola Vaccine, Ready for Test, Sat on Shelf", by Denise Grady

 

------- "Almost a decade ago...tests...never happened"

 

------para4: "Now, as the growing epidemic devastates West Africa and is seen as a potential threat to other regions as well, ... A flurry of research to test drugs and vaccines is underway, ..."

 

------para9: "To that point ('point' being vaccines can enter a 'biotech valley of death', where the research goes to die), the research may have cost a few million dollars, but tests in humans and scaling up production can cost hundreds of millions, and bringing a new vaccine all the way to market typically costs $1 billion to $1.5 billion, Dr. Crowe said." (James E. Crowe, Jr., director of vaccine research center at Vanderbilt University).

 

factoid:

-----para10:  "The Ebola vaccine on which Dr. Geisbert collaborated is made from another virus, V.S.V., for vesicular stomatitis virus, which causes a mouth disease in cattle but rarely infects people. It had been used successfully in making other vaccines."

(Thomas W. Geisbert, Ebola expert at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston and one of the developers of the vaccine that works well in monkeys.)

-----para11: "The researchers altered V.S.V. by removing one of its genes -rendering the virus harmless- and inserting a gene from Ebola. The transplanted gene forces V.S.V. to sprout Ebola proteins on its surface. The proteins cannot cause illness, but they provoke an immune response that in monkeys, considered a good surrogate for humans, fought off the disease.

 

-----para12: "The vaccine was actually produced in Winnipeg, Manitoba, by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The Canadian gov't patented it, and 800 to 1,000 vials of the vaccine were produced. In 2010, it licensed the vaccine, known as VSV-EBOV, to NewLink Genetics in Ames, Iowa."  [post 148 #5 for the intellectual property dispute]

 

factoid:

-----para14: "NewLink's product is one of two leading vaccines being tested. The other, which uses a cold virus that infects chimpanzees, was developed by researchers at the Nat'l Institutes of Health and GlaxoSmithKline. The first tests of an earlier version of it, employing a different cold virus, began in 2003."  [post 147 #1 ]

 

-----para20: (A)"newer version of the vaccine uses a slightly different form of V.S.V. ...(that) might be less likely to cause side effects, and more likely to gain quick approval because it has been used as the basis for an H.I.V. vaccine and is known to the Food and Drug Administration."

 

-----para21: "The V.S.V. products are live vaccines, with replicating viruses that may cause a reaction. It is not clear what level of side effects will be considered acceptable."

-----para22: "Chills and nausea are possible..."

 

factoid:

-----para26: "The virus is from a species called Ebola Zaire, against which the products have already been shown to work. But different strains within a species can vary genetically by 2 percent to 7 percent, Dr. Geisbert said."

-----para27: "Most of the time, those small variations do not matter, ..."

a question that must be "proved" in animals -ed.summation

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That is one of the most shameless pieces of false-hype Press-TV has ever printed.

This PressTV article is along the same lines as other stupid ideas posted on this thread: such as the evil-idol Ebola-Chanpost 126 #5 "evil spirits"; post 135 #3 people believe they will be "poisoned by doctors"; post 147 #5 witches and snakes;

Ebola is not a political fusball.

 

 

I posted an article about patents -post 139 #4-  and this article, thegiro, "Why does CDC hold a patent on Ebola?", by Carrie Healy, 18Oct14, 0300, explains: so researchers can work with it without fees to other researchers and institutions.

 

The one patent is: "Human Ebola Virus Species and Compositions and Methods There of", US 20120251502A1, Filing date: 26Oct09, Publication Date: 04Oct12; Original Assignee: US gov't represented by Secretary Department of Health

 

Al Najashi: If you take a research grant from the US gov't or about anyone else, a condition of the grants is results go to the funder.

 

 

Video:

WashingtonPost, Washingtonsblog, 18Oct14, "Top Ebola Experts: This Strain is Much Worse Than We've Ever Seen Before"

----- ~22 minute video -plays the end so click play a second time to go to the beginning

--- the Guinea strain put into macaques --the pathology in the lungs is "worrisome"

-- comments on risk communication

- at 17:00 minute no 101.5o F fever are documented in several Ebola cases --so why focus on body Temperature? Focus on the Incubation

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28Oct14:

 

1] National Public Radio, 28Oct14, 1620EDT, "Blood Test for Ebola Doesn't Catch Infection Early", by Richard Harris

 

Quoting Geisbert (post 166 ): "'The initial sites of replication actually are not in the blood itself --they're mostly in tissues like the spleen and liver.' , says Thomas Geisbert a microbiologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.

 

Quoting article: " As soon as a small amount of virus ends up in blood, PCR will detect it. It (PCR -ed.) can find one or two virus particles in a drop of blood."

 

Quoting Article; " So -sensitive as the PCR test is- it doesn't reliably give you much advance warning that a person is infected."

 

2] ibid., Dr. Bruce Ribner, Emory University Hospital

------ what is not known about the nurse Amber Vinson case is: how she (took so long -ed) to contract Ebola; what the method of transmission to her and Pham Nam was; why both nurses recovered so quickly

 

3] BBC, 2100EDT, 28Oct14: Australia has banned West African travelers (no visas either for Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone)

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4] :mad: NBC News, 28Oct14, 2034EDT, "Nurse Kaci Hickox Doesn't Intend to Obey Maine Ebola Quarantine: Report"

------- title tells most of it

---- she drove to Maine (Question: whose car? rented? will it be decontaminated? how many times did she stop? gas? to eat? rest-stop?) (Note: previous media reports said she flew on private plane.)

-- Krazy Kaci had said she was going "...to self-quarantine at her boyfriend's apartment"

-Ft.Kent Maine intends to legally enforce the quarantine

 

Opine: What is the problem with quarantine? Who is going to get stigmatized? Children with polio were not. Ever see a March of Dimes poster? Disfigured war veterans never were.!

 

Besides, when the astronauts  first were returning from the Moon, they were placed in Quarantine --for two weeks I think it was. Heck, one nurse somehow got her protective suit punctured so she entered quarantine also.

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29Oct14:

 

1] World Health Organization, "Sierra Leone: for Ebola Survivors the pain goes on", 29Oct14

------ vision problems

----- pain in joints and chest

----labeling -such "...as witches for surviving"

 

2] World Health Organization, 29Oct14 Situation Report  (this is the 10th SITREP in the "Ebola-Response Roadmap")

------- 4,920 deaths as of 27Oct14

------ 13,703 cases  -- "The marked increase in cumulative total number of cases compared with the SITREP of 22Oct results from a more comprehensive assessment of patient databases. The additional 3,792 cases have occurred throughout the epidemic period, not only from 22Oct."

----In Summary from the report:

------ "Cases and deaths continue to be underreported in the outbreak..."

------ "Data for Liberia are missing for 19, 20, 21, 26 and 27 October."

------ "Data for (Sierra Leone -ed.) are missing for 23Oct."

------ 521 healthcare workers (HCWs) have contracted Ebola, 272 have died (52% --ed.) -- "Early indications are that a substantial proportion of infections occurred outside the context of Ebola treatment and control." (Like the Senegalese doctor earlier reported here -ed.)

------ "Currently, 83% of Ebola affected districts are reported to have laboratory support. There is currently 12 laboratories -3 in Guinea, 5 in Liberia and 4 in Sierra Leone."

------ "WHO has received 49%" of needed funding

 

3] the Hysteria

-- Time, Ebola Brings Another Fear: Xenophobia", by Josh Sanburn, 29Oct14

----- article covers a few of the active discrimination incidents (others can be found in the media in general -ed)

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