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Which Weapons Does We Need Against The Isis

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1) Takfiries are Jahils and they themselves could not even make a sew. 

 

2) US and Saudia give them a lot of ammunition .... but there is weak point of US i.e. US could not provide high tech weapons to the Takfiries, while US fears that one day it could be used against the West and Israel.

 

We must exploit this weakness of US.

 

3) Against Takfiries, we don't need huge army units, nor do we need small abush units, but we need Technological Superior weapons, which will work best in the present civil war against Takfiries.

 

4) We need Drones, which could fly 25000 ft. altitude or higher. No manpads could ever touch the Drones at this height. (Iran even has the ablility to manufacture even 50000 ft and 64000 ft. altitude Drones, as has been said by Iranian officials ). 


Secondly, we need Precision Guided Ammunition (Iran is already producing it). 

 

Precision Guided Ammunition could be fired through tanks and artillery and in form of Rockets.

 

It could be guided either by Drones (laser guidance) or by ground laser equipment. 

 

Tanks should not directly enter the cities, but trained units in camouflage should infiltrate the cities and enemies ranks, and they guide the artillery fire through lasers.

 

With Precision Guided Ammunition and ground guidance equipment, we could win this war even without the Drones.   


This is what high tech weapons could do in fight against the Jahil Takfiries

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=779646365413142

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Fight fire with fire... show them no mercy, take no prisoners, captured ISIS should be executed on the spot.

 

Those who harbour and support them should be deported to the Saudi desert. Let's see what their masters do for them.

 

Iraq needs to be cleansed from these people.

 

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Al Maliky should step down... if he has an ounce of honour he would step down for doing nothing since taking the big seat.

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Fight fire with fire... show them no mercy, take no prisoners, captured ISIS should be executed on the spot.

 

Those who harbour and support them should be deported to the Saudi desert. Let's see what their masters do for them.

 

Iraq needs to be cleansed from these people.

 

A wall (similar to the one built by the Israelis) should be constructed to separate the Sunnis from the Shia. Remaining Sunnis in the true Iraq should be made to wear electronic tags so their every movement can be recorded for analysis.

 

And you curse Yazeed...

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The most important thing is to corner them from every angle,so that thet have no place to escape from. Literalley they should be stuck in one place. You can have the best weapons but without structure you will not win.

Air stricks aims at the target,that should be used more often. Tanks should only go in if they have cornered all the angles of that area and their should be back up soilders watching the back of the tanks and watching their backs.

I dont know much about weapons but the onces that I have made up in my mind probably dont exist.

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The need of weapons while important, should be a lesser priority. The big priority right now should be to start your own weapons production and manufacturing plants so that you can have an endless supply and you don't have to be dependent on anyone. This is the strategy Iran used during the iran Iraq war when the US wouldn't supply it with weapns. I agree that it takes time but maybe Iran can help and give Iraq some blueprints.

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(salam)

 

Local ABC affiliate says "Iraq has run out of advanced weapons".

 

What Iraq needs is to:

1) forget the artillery unless it is mobile enough to catch ISIS out in the open and stop shelling towns as it only kills noncombatants

 

2) change their TO&E and get moving.

 

ISIS is not "advancing" because of their skill and numbers, but from Iraqi Army incompetence.

Story: last week, it's said, Iraqi soldiers showed up for work to guard the old "green zone" wearing civilian clothes (prepared to run away).

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Truth!

We need to hold the truth and present it strongly. ISIS is a terrorist group that committed a war crimes. Whoever is behind it must be tried. The media outlets that are trying to paint the brutal and bloody activity of ISIS against the unarmed civilians as a "revolution" should be faced by the rest of us who are not active on the battle field.

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Truth!

We need to hold the truth and present it strongly. ISIS is a terrorist group that committed a war crimes. Whoever is behind it must be tried. The media outlets that are trying to paint the brutal and bloody activity of ISIS against the unarmed civilians as a "revolution" should be faced by the rest of us who are not active on the battle field.

 

I agree, information and media is just as a potent weapon as any military hardware/equipment.

 

If daesh's back is not broken any time soon then their numbers will increase as more numb skulls are brainwashed into their perverted cause through propaganda. If this carries on then Iraq will become like Syria is now, perhaps worse, and it will be militias pitted against militias in a long civil war. Perhaps the Iraqi army will start to show a bit of muscle but only when it is too late. The american government does not have a good track record of "helping" the iraqi people and probably should not be trusted. Help from Russia and other powers would be useful in that case. 

 

As harsh as it may sound, but a heavy bombardment of the towns taken over by daesh would be the only way to prevent all of this from happening. In the long run this would probably save more lives. 

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And you curse Yazeed...

 

Yes.. of course I do.... I am talking about self-defence here.. not about killing innocent people.

 

Enough is enough... a lot of the Sunni Iraqis have shown their true colours. They either rule us or they can't be ruled! Well to hell with them and their way.

 

Time to do the right thing and deport these deadbeats to the Saudi desert. Let their Wahabi brethren look after them.

 

Iraq is for honourable Iraqis not for the Sunnis who want Saddam style rule.

 

Never again will we allow it.... it starts with ISIS and end with the deportation of the Sunni traitors from Iraq.

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As harsh as it may sound, but a heavy bombardment of the towns taken over by daesh would be the only way to prevent all of this from happening. In the long run this would probably save more lives. 

 

Agreed. In this instance the ends justify the means IMHO.

 

Carpet bomb them all.... start with Falluja and flatten Tikirt and Mosul.. show them no mercy... wallah they have no mercy for us so give them what they crave.

 

Enough is enough!

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The best weapon would be an army that doesn't abandon thousands of its own troops to die while tens of thousands of more cowardly run away due to not wanting to fight their own kind - idiot bakris.

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Maybe a new and effective Iraqi goverment might be the best weapon against ISIS.

Or sunnis not demanding that the PM (Ja'fari) leaves his position due to the most ridiculous reasons ever and now asking the same thing from Maliki, what a great strategy to turn a Shia government instantly into a Sunni one. Oh, Shias should also grow a pair and stop granting demands.

 

The best weapon would be an army that doesn't abandon thousands of its own troops to die while tens of thousands of more cowardly run away due to not wanting to fight their own kind - idiot bakris.

 

If your talking about Mosul in early June then you must know those were Sunni traitors that aren't being punished for commiting treason.

 

 

Agreed. In this instance the ends justify the means IMHO.

 

Carpet bomb them all.... start with Falluja and flatten Tikirt and Mosul.. show them no mercy... wallah they have no mercy for us so give them what they crave.

 

Enough is enough!

Problem is, our Shia politicians are so afraid to give orders, I'm not saying let's get a new government because that could mean a new Saddam, and whilst we are talking about that cursed one, he would never have allowed even 1 armed kid to make trouble without torturing the [Edited Out] out of that kid, as you said, enough is enough, Maliki needs to get those bombs dropping on ISIS captured areas or let another one from his party take over!

Edited by Ibrahim_A

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I think they are gonna clean sweep the way Taliban did in Afghanistan in 1990's. Actually they will do better because they are highly organised and mobilized. 

You may not agree with me, but I want to share my opinion with you quite honestly and sincerely.

I think they will be helped by Allah because they are eliminating the signs of shirk by destroying the shrines (places of worship). People don't worship Allah now a days but they worship the dead and it's a crime Allah is not going to forgive by principle.

It's possible that ISIS is committing war crimes but this one deed is so virtuous that I think Allah will ignore these sins or maybe Allah will guide them but Allah will surely give them success. 

 

There's a huge difference between the shia fighters and ISIS fighters. ISIS is somewhat linked with other militant groups like Al-Qaida or Taliban. And the success of Taliban is known to all, they have defeated the Americans and the NATO on the soil of Afghanistan. Americans are requesting them for a safe exit but Taliban are denying it. Such accomplishments give confidence and raise morale of those who are connected such as ISIS. 

 

On the other hand, shia militias are losing morale and confidence. They are losing in Iraq, and the Assad regime is also losing in Syria. Imagine what's going to happen in the near future when Iran will be sandwiched between the Taliban and ISIS. 

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Yes.. of course I do.... I am talking about self-defence here.. not about killing innocent people.

 

Enough is enough... a lot of the Sunni Iraqis have shown their true colours. They either rule us or they can't be ruled! Well to hell with them and their way.

 

Time to do the right thing and deport these deadbeats to the Saudi desert. Let their Wahabi brethren look after them.

 

Iraq is for honourable Iraqis not for the Sunnis who want Saddam style rule.

 

Never again will we allow it.... it starts with ISIS and end with the deportation of the Sunni traitors from Iraq.

 

What a load of nonsense. First of all you need to stop with that generalizing. Secondly, as if there were no shia traitors in the Iraqi army these past months? Tell me, how many shias were in the military of Saddam, among high ranking officials? More than 1, that's for sure. Saddam didn't only oppress shias, he oppressed sunnis that opposed him as well. 

 

Traitors come in all shapes, sizes, religious branches and sects. What Iraq needs is good leadership and soldiers with a heart fit for fighting. It lacks both at the moment. 

 

That being said, you calm down on your tone a bit. 

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I think they are gonna clean sweep the way Taliban did in Afghanistan in 1990's. Actually they will do better because they are highly organised and mobilized. 

You may not agree with me, but I want to share my opinion with you quite honestly and sincerely.

I think they will be helped by Allah because they are eliminating the signs of shirk by destroying the shrines (places of worship). People don't worship Allah now a days but they worship the dead and it's a crime Allah is not going to forgive by principle.

It's possible that ISIS is committing war crimes but this one deed is so virtuous that I think Allah will ignore these sins or maybe Allah will guide them but Allah will surely give them success. 

 

There's a huge difference between the shia fighters and ISIS fighters. ISIS is somewhat linked with other militant groups like Al-Qaida or Taliban. And the success of Taliban is known to all, they have defeated the Americans and the NATO on the soil of Afghanistan. Americans are requesting them for a safe exit but Taliban are denying it. Such accomplishments give confidence and raise morale of those who are connected such as ISIS. 

 

On the other hand, shia militias are losing morale and confidence. They are losing in Iraq, and the Assad regime is also losing in Syria. Imagine what's going to happen in the near future when Iran will be sandwiched between the Taliban and ISIS. 

Priceless.

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USA to sell 5000 hellfire missiles to Iraq (about time)

 

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/29/373312/us-selling-5000-hellfire-missiles-to-iraq/

 

This is big it will be very effective against the ISIS Jihadists.

 

So the US/Israel gives weapons to ISIL, but sells them to Iraq. 

 

Seems like someone is their favorite!

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So the US/Israel gives weapons to ISIL, but sells them to Iraq. 

 

Seems like someone is their favorite!

 

Yeah, USA (Jewish lobby) is selling missiles and aircrafts to Iraqi shias to fight the ISIS. It makes clear who's supporting the shias against sunnis/wahabis.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-plans-to-sell-5000-hellfire-missiles-to-iraq-2014-7

 

There's no need to do propaganda because even Iran received arms last year from Israelis.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10649567/US-investigates-illegal-military-equipment-shipments-from-Israel-to-Iran.html

 

And this one by Khomeni

 

http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/94-washington-report-archives-1982-1987/november-1986/685-israeli-arms-sales-to-iran.html

 

Not just that. Americans (Jews) have trained Iraqi shia forces during the occupation period and even today, so whining that Israel has trained Da'ish is a far cry. Syrian shias have been trained by Russians, so don't complain about anything and don't use the name of Islam.

 

IRANI NUCLEAR ASSETS

 

It's very likely that this is one of the future plans of ISIS to attack Iran's nuclear facilities through Suicidal Truck Bombs or (Nuclear) Dirty Bombs. If Israel & America are arming shias, so why not taking help from the same Israelis & Americans to hit Iranian nuclear assets?

If shias can go bad, why not wahabis/sunnis? Iran, Syria, Iraq can take help from Russians, Indians, Israelis and Americans so why can't Wahabis/Sunnis do that?

Edited by Alamgir

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Yeah, USA (Jewish lobby) is selling missiles and aircrafts to Iraqi shias to fight the ISIS. It makes clear who's supporting the shias against sunnis/wahabis.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-plans-to-sell-5000-hellfire-missiles-to-iraq-2014-7

 

There's no need to do propaganda because even Iran received arms last year from Israelis.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10649567/US-investigates-illegal-military-equipment-shipments-from-Israel-to-Iran.html

 

And this one by Khomeni

 

http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/94-washington-report-archives-1982-1987/november-1986/685-israeli-arms-sales-to-iran.html

 

Not just that. Americans (Jews) have trained Iraqi shia forces during the occupation period and even today, so whining that Israel has trained Da'ish is a far cry. Syrian shias have been trained by Russians, so don't complain about anything and don't use the name of Islam.

 

IRANI NUCLEAR ASSETS

 

It's very likely that this is one of the future plans of ISIS to attack Iran's nuclear facilities through Suicidal Truck Bombs or (Nuclear) Dirty Bombs. If Israel & America are arming shias, so why not taking help from the same Israelis & Americans to hit Iranian nuclear assets?

If shias can go bad, why not wahabis/sunnis? Iran, Syria, Iraq can take help from Russians, Indians, Israelis and Americans so why can't Wahabis/Sunnis do that?

 

Well, if you believe everything you read then i guess it's all true.......do a little research, after 18 posts i feel little urge to actually bother. The so called israelli arms sale to iran has been debunked so many times i lost count. Here is a hint: "Trade, not sale"

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Well, if you believe everything you read then i guess it's all true.......do a little research, after 18 posts i feel little urge to actually bother. The so called israelli arms sale to iran has been debunked so many times i lost count. Here is a hint: "Trade, not sale"

 

I believe what the ground realities show. I can see how much kind Iranians are towards the Iranian Jews, and I can see how Iranians have never been a threat to the West. No Iranian was involved in the 9/11 attacks, instead Iran was part of the plan to attack the Taliban before 9/11 with the help of Americans, Indians and Russians. Then how Americans supported the shias of Iraq with the help of Iranian forces to topple Saddam regime and establish a shia government there.

I also see how Iranian bullies to Israel are a game of taqiyyah between both the nations. Iran simply wants to use the Palestinian crisis to confront the Arabs, and not the Israeli Jews. Iran's enemy number 1 are Arabs and not Israel or America (this enmity of Iranians towards Arabs is historical since Umar's conquest of Persia, it's less religious in nature than ethnic). I still remember how Khomeni bought weapons from Israel against Saddam. These realities make me believe this piece of news that Israeli arm dealers (Israeli arm dealers can't go beyond their Jewish state, so it was basically under the secret guidance of Netanyahu) tried to send weapons to Iran.

 

Menelaos Tzafalias and Robert Tait

 

London Telegraph

February 22, 2014

 

Israeli arms dealers twice tried to send spare parts for fighter planes to Iran, The Telegraph has established, flouting an international arms embargo and openly contradicting the bitter enmity between the Jewish state and the Islamic regime.

The illegal shipments are now being investigated by the US Homeland Security Department after they were intercepted by authorities in Greece.

The potentially explosive revelation came as six world powers resumed negotiations with Iran in Vienna aimed at reaching a long-term agreement over Tehran’s nuclear programme.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, marked the event with a renewed call for increased pressure on Iran to force it to abandon a programme that Israel regards as a front for building an atomic bomb and a threat to its existence.

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-investigates-illegal-military-equipment-shipments-from-israel-to-iran.html

 
P.S: I'm not able to post anymore today because of the restriction imposed.
Edited by Alamgir

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I believe what the ground realities show. I can see how much kind Iranians are towards the Iranian Jews, and I can see how Iranians have never been a threat to the West. No Iranian was involved in the 9/11 attacks, instead Iran was part of the plan to attack the Taliban before 9/11 with the help of Americans, Indians and Russians. Then how Americans supported the shias of Iraq with the help of Iranian forces to topple Saddam regime and establish a shia government there.

I also see how Iranian bullies to Israel are a game of taqiyyah between both the nations. Iran simply wants to use the Palestinian crisis to confront the Arabs, and not the Israeli Jews. Iran's enemy number 1 are Arabs and not Israel or America (this enmity of Iranians towards Arabs is historical since Umar's conquest of Persia, it's less religious in nature than ethnic). I still remember how Khomeni bought weapons from Israel against Saddam. These realities make me believe this piece of news that Israeli arm dealers (Israeli arm dealers can't go beyond their Jewish state, so it was basically under the secret guidance of Netanyahu) tried to send weapons to Iran.

Menelaos Tzafalias and Robert Tait

London Telegraph

February 22, 2014

Israeli arms dealers twice tried to send spare parts for fighter planes to Iran, The Telegraph has established, flouting an international arms embargo and openly contradicting the bitter enmity between the Jewish state and the Islamic regime.

The illegal shipments are now being investigated by the US Homeland Security Department after they were intercepted by authorities in Greece.

The potentially explosive revelation came as six world powers resumed negotiations with Iran in Vienna aimed at reaching a long-term agreement over Tehran’s nuclear programme.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, marked the event with a renewed call for increased pressure on Iran to force it to abandon a programme that Israel regards as a front for building an atomic bomb and a threat to its existence.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-investigates-illegal-military-equipment-shipments-from-israel-to-iran.html

P.S: I'm not able to post anymore today because of the restriction imposed.

Another troll here..... Let's just say everything you say is true (in theory) where are the Taliban waahabi/ salafi/ takfiri , the Sunni Saudi goverment, Sunni Qatar, Sunni Jordan Sunni Egypt Sunni Libya Sunni Tunisia.Sunni Malaysia/ Philippines For the Sunni Palestinians who are getting killed mercilessly or do you believe in the shia conspiracy 1 billion Sunnis are getting there asses whopped by 5 million Jews it's a shame brother fix you own house before pointing the finger...... Iran (Islamic shia goverment) today is sitting with the world powers discussing their nuclear programme they refuse to bow like the "Sunni goverment" coz of Iran Hamas has rocket capability Hezbollah is the only movement to defeat the Israelis you carry on with you're "Taliban" or "Islamic state" if you can't help your own people (palestinians) we should never rely on you lot!!! Edited by syed yusuf abbas

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I can see how much kind Iranians are towards the Iranian Jews

What is wrong with that? Are Muslims supposed to persecute the Ahlul Kitab? Is that the message of the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh)?

No Iranian was involved in the 9/11 attacks

Is this a bad thing in your opinion?

nstead Iran was part of the plan to attack the Taliban before 9/11 with the help of Americans, Indians and Russians.

You mean like how Saudi is part of the Israeli plan to attack Iran?

I still remember how Khomeni bought weapons from Israel against Saddam.

But Saddam buying weapons from the Americans was ok? As well as Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, etc?

By the way, what are all these Arab countries doing now to help the Palestinians who are being massacred by the Israelis?

Edited by Haydar Husayn

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Iran didn't buy weapons from Israel, why do people keep saying that? The Americans and Israellis keep saying that in order to make people like Alamgir rant about it later. 

Iran made israel give them weapons in trade for 1. Hostages in Lebanon, 2. The money printer that the Americans forgot to take with them. 

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USA to sell 5000 hellfire missiles to Iraq (about time)

 

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/29/373312/us-selling-5000-hellfire-missiles-to-iraq/

 

This is big it will be very effective against the ISIS Jihadists.

Nope, It's a gift to ISIS- paid for the by Iraq. It's very probable that Iraq will lose control of these explosives.

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Fight fire with fire... show them no mercy, take no prisoners, captured ISIS should be executed on the spot.

 

Those who harbour and support them should be deported to the Saudi desert. Let's see what their masters do for them.

 

Iraq needs to be cleansed from these people.

 

Removed by Moderator. Behave or be banned. 

 

Al Maliky should step down... if he has an ounce of honour he would step down for doing nothing since taking the big seat.

Too far. The sunnah of Muhammad(s.a.w.w.) should be followed at all times and never set aside, especially in big matters like war. Surrendered soldiers should always be shown mercy and treated humanely.

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What a load of nonsense.

 

 

It is my opinion. If you don't like it nobody is forcing you to accept it. 

 

First of all you need to stop with that generalizing. 

 

 

Why?! One of the key criteria in any scientific discipline is being able to generalise. I made a justified extension of my conclusion. Who are you to tell me what to do what not to do?!

 

Secondly, as if there were no shia traitors in the Iraqi army these past months?

 

 

 

 

Strawman argument. These are YOUR words not mine. I didn't mention anything about Shia traitors or anything of that sort. This is an entirely different topic.

 

 

 Tell me, how many shias were in the military of Saddam, among high ranking officials? More than 1, that's for sure. Saddam didn't only oppress shias, he oppressed sunnis that opposed him as well. 

 

 

 

Again, these are your words.. my original post did not mention this topic. 

 

Traitors come in all shapes, sizes, religious branches and sects. What Iraq needs is good leadership and soldiers with a heart fit for fighting. It lacks both at the moment. 

 

 

 

The majority of attacks in Iraq for the last 10 years have been against Shia Muslims whereas Sunni areas rarely get affected. It doesn't take a genius to work out which sect is the aggressor. Those who harbour and support the terrorists are predmoinnantely Sunnis. This is fact. You can sugar coat it till the cows come home but the truth will remain.

 

 

 That being said, you calm down on your tone a bit. 

 

Fair enough but I wasn't being rude. I am merely stating MY OPINION and I believe I am entitled to that.

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