Ayatullah Fadlallah: Be Free

[Logical Islamic]

This is a beautiful message by Ayatullah Fadlallah, on being free, not being a sheep/like a plant that just blows in the wind. My interpretation of what he says is, don't be afraid to stand up for what you believe in , don't follow because everyone else seems to follow. Ayatullah Fadlallah's speech epitomizes him, his independent thinking, his courage despite having media campaigns against him by both muslims and non-muslims, and even our own shia. It's a short , simple message but can do wonders for your life, your ethics, and your self development.

 

 

[Abu'l Khattab]

Interesting, I should forward this video to his followers. In my experience they follow him because he's easy. Ironic, but true. 

[Sumerian]

Interesting, I should forward this video to his followers. In my experience they follow him because he's easy. Ironic, but true.

lol

[Logical Islamic]

Interesting, I should forward this video to his followers. In my experience they follow him because he's easy. Ironic, but true. 

 

I'm actually not his follower. He inspires me as:

 

1. He believes in using the formulae : O Allah, for the SAKE of  Muhammed, rather than calling on those other than Allah, which isn't the sunah of Muhammed or the ahlulbayt a.s

 

2. He is logical, very level-headed, very scholarly in his approach.

 

Tbh, i don't agree with everything he says, but i think his view of Islam is one of the closest to our Imams a.s, and i could be absolutely wrong, but he puts away shirk without letting go of our Imams a.s

[NaveenHussain]

I'm actually not his follower. He inspires me as:

 

1. He believes in using the formulae : O Allah, for the SAKE of  Muhammed, rather than calling on those other than Allah, which isn't the sunah of Muhammed or the ahlulbayt a.s

 

2. He is logical, very level-headed, very scholarly in his approach.

 

Tbh, i don't agree with everything he says, but i think his view of Islam is one of the closest to our Imams a.s, and i could be absolutely wrong, but he puts away shirk without letting go of our Imams a.s

Perhaps he didn't fully understand intercession. We all have misunderstandings of some things.

[Gypsy]

I'm actually not his follower. He inspires me as:

 

1. He believes in using the formulae : O Allah, for the SAKE of  Muhammed, rather than calling on those other than Allah, which isn't the sunah of Muhammed or the ahlulbayt a.s

 

2. He is logical, very level-headed, very scholarly in his approach.

 

Tbh, i don't agree with everything he says, but i think his view of Islam is one of the closest to our Imams a.s, and i could be absolutely wrong, but he puts away shirk without letting go of our Imams a.s

 

Shirk is probably not as simple as what you are demonstrating here. You are claiming that if someone uses the name of ahl al bayt then they are virtually worshiping them or committing the biggest sin ever? What happened to the part which says you will be judged by your intention first and the deed later?

 

Just so you know, we don't really consider the family of Muhammad any less than himself and that's only because of how the Prophet view them himself. After-all, he did say Fatima is a part of him just like Ali is a part of him and their children are his (Prophet) Children.

[Ali-F]

May Allah have mercy on you all. Sayed Fadlallah passed away years ago. What now? Do you want to abuse him? Do you want to kill his followers?

 

Let it go, and continue your own interests. 

[Abu'l Khattab]

May Allah have mercy on you all. Sayed Fadlallah passed away years ago. What now? Do you want to abuse him? Do you want to kill his followers?

 

Let it go, and continue your own interests. 

Well..that escalated quickly...

[Logical Islamic]

May Allah have mercy on you all. Sayed Fadlallah passed away years ago. What now? Do you want to abuse him? Do you want to kill his followers?

 

Let it go, and continue your own interests. 

 

May Allah swt multiply his influence and message even after his death, it is allowed to do his Taqleed still, by some other present Marajah. He touches on modern issues and relevant issues more so on par with some of our greatest current marajah.

Edited May 7, 2014 by Logical Islamic

[The Green Knight]

One thing is certain is that this whole thread simply does not belong in the Ethics and Self Development subforum.

 

Being ethical and developed certainly does not mean being political or hypocritical.

[Logical Islamic]

One thing is certain is that this whole thread simply does not belong in the Ethics and Self Development subforum.

 

Being ethical and developed certainly does not mean being political or hypocritical.

 

What do you mean

[Logical Islamic]

One thing is certain is that this whole thread simply does not belong in the Ethics and Self Development subforum.

 

Being ethical and developed certainly does not mean being political or hypocritical.

 

The video asserts for you to be a free man. Like HUSSAIN a.s said on the day of Ashura to the army of Yazid - be free.

Perhaps he didn't fully understand intercession. We all have misunderstandings of some things.

 

Salamunalaykum brother,

 

He understands intercession. He permits people to say "O Allah for the sake of the ahlulbayt a.s"

 

He does not allow people to say "Ya Ali Madad" - O Ali help me. that is supplication not intercession

[NaveenHussain]

Salamunalaykum brother,

 

He understands intercession. He permits people to say "O Allah for the sake of the ahlulbayt a.s"

 

He does not allow people to say "Ya Ali Madad" - O Ali help me. that is supplication not intercession

WS,

He may have been looking at it thinking to himself, if it said with implications of shirk, then it's not allowed, but intention is important here. It's almost similar to saying Ya Mahdi (as) Madad. Is the latter also not allowed by Ayatullah Fadhlullah?

Edited May 11, 2014 by NaveenHussain

[Logical Islamic]

WS,

He may have been looking at it thinking to himself, if it said with implications of shirk, then it's not allowed, but intention is important here. It's almost similar to saying Ya Mahdi (as) Madad. Is the latter also not allowed by Ayatullah Fadhlullah?

 

Salamunalaykum,

 

Both would be considered incorrect.

 

There's two kinds of help, one is calling on the corporeal - friends, family and so on, and the Propet pbuh may have asked even people around him for help to build a mosque, to maybe fetch a thing or two. This is all normal, as part of the laws of cause and effect.

 

The second kind of help is when you supplicate. So say you fall over and need help, what do you say? Ayatullah Fadlallah says, you either Say Ya Allah Madad in a dua, or Ya Allah for the sake of, and you never say Ya Ali Madad - O Ali Help me, you only ask help from Allah swt, for the sake of the ahllubayt a.s not to them, through them.

 

Atleast this is my understanding but i could be wrong and recommend going on this website:)

[NaveenHussain]

Salamunalaykum,

 

Both would be considered incorrect.

 

There's two kinds of help, one is calling on the corporeal - friends, family and so on, and the Propet pbuh may have asked even people around him for help to build a mosque, to maybe fetch a thing or two. This is all normal, as part of the laws of cause and effect.

 

The second kind of help is when you supplicate. So say you fall over and need help, what do you say? Ayatullah Fadlallah says, you either Say Ya Allah Madad in a dua, or Ya Allah for the sake of, and you never say Ya Ali Madad - O Ali Help me, you only ask help from Allah swt, for the sake of the ahllubayt a.s not to them, through them.

 

Atleast this is my understanding but i could be wrong and recommend going on this website:)

Ws,

This is why I think many considered Ayatullah Fadhlullah as misguided. I have been on his website. I, as well as many other scholars, don't seem to agree with many things he says.

If one says Ya Ali or Mahdi (as) Madad, it may be with the intention of having them asking for you as well. This doesn't mean one is praying to them, but through them. They're still alive, albeit veiled from our Dunyaa eyesight. You'll even find Sunnis who have records of saying Ya Muhammad (saww), and then being helped, and this was after his (saww)'s death.

Intention counts in this case. One could ask Allah directly, but it's the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of the Ahlul Bayt (as) which changes our faith. When we die, if our faith is the same in regards to Ahlul Bayt (as), it doesn't matter what the tongue says about them, as long as it isn't bad, of course, because our souls would testify to the same exact thing, right? So, again, be careful of judging the intention of others without knowing what they believe.

 

Edited May 11, 2014 by NaveenHussain

[The Green Knight]

I rest my case.

 

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