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Masturbation is a reprehensible act in Islam. Islamic traditions and verdicts from Islamic scholars have clearly shown that it is prohibited. For instance, Imam Sadiq (a) was asked about masturbation and he responded by stating that “it is an indecent act.” The following tradition is also recorded from Imam Sadiq in Al-Khisal: “Allah will not speak with three [categories of people] on the Day of Judgment. He will not look at them and will not purify them. They will be inflicted with severe punishment. These three [categories of people are those who]…have sex with themselves…”

 

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I have read Fadullah's arguments that masturbation to the point of orgasm for women is allowed in Islam and I found them very convincing.

As for masturbation but not to the point of orgasm for both males and females, for your information, all Shi'a mujtahids are unanimous that it is allowed in Islam.

As for men, the Khabar al-Wahid accepting mujtahids say that masturbation for men to the point of orgasm is haraam but the Khabar al-Wahid rejecting mujtahids such as Sharif al-Murtada and Muhammad Ibn Idris al-Hilli say it is allowed for both men and women in Islam to masturbate to the point of orgasm because there are no Qati' (certainty giving) sources that state that it is not allowed and all things are allowed in Islam until irrefutable evidence is produced to show that a particular act is haraam.

http://www.al-islam.org/introduction-islamic-shariah-sayyid-muhammad-rizvi/system-ijtihad#convincing-qat’i-non-convincing-dhanni-souces

This makes sense to me because if you want to proclaim that God prohibits something you better be certain about what you are saying. To rely on conjecture to make such a bold statement is evil and to think that most mujtahids today actually do exactly that makes my stomach turn. And they actually admit that Khabar al-Wahid is a Dhanni source (conjectural). They don't even deny it. Subhaanallah!

Anyway I don't intend to offend anyone but just to explain that Shi'a mujtahids are no monolithic on the masturbation issue. 
I am convinced that Islam will never successfully spread in the world until we return to the original anti-Khabar al-Wahid position of the Shia mujtahids of the first 5 centuries of Islam. That was the real Islam, an Islam based on pure certainty with no conjecture. I tried to explain further at http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235021749-why-is-homosexuality-haram/?p=2691750
I pray people wake up because khabar al-wahid Islam be it Sunni or Shia is incompatible with modern life. It is too strict, similar to orthodox jews who rely on the Talmud.

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I have always thought that ahadiths are merely speeches that belonged to that period of time where it was said.

I would completely understand if masturbation would be haram back in the time of the prophet : marriage was very easy.

But today, marriage is almost impossible .

i can also compare this situation to a hungry person in africa where his only option is pork. Bien que pork is haram, but it is his only option or else he will die.

I am not trying to defend masturbation. Just trying to look at this topic from different perspective.

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I have always thought that ahadiths are merely speeches that belonged to that period of time where it was said.

 

 

The Halal & Haram of the Prophet [sawa] will remain this way until Yawm al-Qiyama. 

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skeikh waqar .... go tell the mujtahids to live in usa for 10 years ... without releasing the built up fluid. lolz the cheek of this anciient fatwa. this articel is not helping. Allah is no zalim. he wont burn u cause u couldnt get married. ur making the youth hate themsleves with these aloof fatwas.

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The infallibles lived among us fo about 300 years and none of them compiled a single book of hadeeth. If the compilation of hadeeth was so paramount for the survival of Islam, they being infallible would be the perfect people to fulfill the task of preserving and promulgating hadeeth throughout the world. It was not until the 6th century or so that Shia scholars devised a system of relying on hadeeth to formulate laws and beliefs in Islam. For the 1st 500 years Shia mujtahids considered it haraam to formulate laws and beliefs based on solitary hadeeth (Khabar al-Wahid) which are technically considered conjecture.

 

So you are correct. Hadeeth are saying attributed to an infallible. It might be what an infallible said. It is not certain that the Imam said it. Only hadeeth al-mutawatir are non-conjectural (maybe 10% of hadeeth or less). The hadeeth about masturbation are NOT mutawatir. They are conjectural.

To base our religious laws and beliefs on conjectural sources makes a mockery of Islam. It reduces our religion to superstition.

 

I have always thought that ahadiths are merely speeches that belonged to that period of time where it was said.

 

However I don't believe getting married is difficult nowadays, especially as we followers of the 12 Imams believe in the permissibility of fixed-term marriage.  Most Shia mujtahids in history said even a virgin woman can do mut'ah without her father's consent so long as she is a Rasheeda (mentally mature). The obstacle is getting married young and going against our Eastern culture.
Islam is easy and universal. 

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I don't know the rulings on it but whatever, just offering an opinion. Mas. also alters your appearence, science has showed that if a man goes without any sort of sex or masturbation for seven days. His testerone levels increase. Resulting in a more sharp appearence, more confidence and other added effects. Professional olympians restrict sex to 1-2 times a week for more muscle quality and gain.

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The infallibles lived among us fo about 300 years and none of them compiled a single book of hadeeth. If the compilation of hadeeth was so paramount for the survival of Islam, they being infallible would be the perfect people to fulfill the task of preserving and promulgating hadeeth throughout the world. It was not until the 6th century or so that Shia scholars devised a system of relying on hadeeth to formulate laws and beliefs in Islam. For the 1st 500 years Shia mujtahids considered it haraam to formulate laws and beliefs based on solitary hadeeth (Khabar al-Wahid) which are technically considered conjecture.

So you are correct. Hadeeth are saying attributed to an infallible. It might be what an infallible said. It is not certain that the Imam said it. Only hadeeth al-mutawatir are non-conjectural (maybe 10% of hadeeth or less). The hadeeth about masturbation are NOT mutawatir. They are conjectural.

To base our religious laws and beliefs on conjectural sources makes a mockery of Islam. It reduces our religion to superstition.

However I don't believe getting married is difficult nowadays, especially as we followers of the 12 Imams believe in the permissibility of fixed-term marriage. Most Shia mujtahids in history said even a virgin woman can do mut'ah without her father's consent so long as she is a Rasheeda (mentally mature). The obstacle is getting married young and going against our Eastern culture.

Islam is easy and universal.

I just want to make a comment about the infalliable imams not writing any books of Hadith if it was so important. In that case is Quran important? If so, then by the same token why did the prophet (saw) not compile it (Quran) himself? Why did he let others after him compile it? Especially when he knew of the craziness to happen after his death. As per your comment about Hadith compilation, Quran must not be so important.

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The Qur'an was compiled in the lifetime of the Prophet (s) See:

http://www.al-islam.org/the-collection-and-preservation-of-the-quran-extract-ayatullah-adul-qasim-al-khui/reflection

The Qur'an was conveyed to us in a Mutaawatir fashion.

As for hadeeth thru a period of 300 years or so when the infallibles were among us we can not say with certainty that they wrote or dictated a single book of hadeeth to anyone.
All we have (apart from the few mutawatir hadeeth) are things that we can only say might be sayings of the infallibles.

It honestly makes no sense to me that an infallible would start obligating or prohibiting things not obligated or prohibited in the Qur'an for all to see. The Imam is to explain the Qur'an not give 10x more laws that are not mentioned in the Qur'an and that, via isolated narrations (Khabar al-Wahid) which is a very doubtful channel, for later generation.
This whole accepting khabar al-wahid issue opened a pandora's box of mutilation of the religion. Most of this Khabar al-wahid Islam is man-made. That is why the modern world would never accept it. Khabar al-Wahid Islam looks like a relic of the middle ages. The Islam of Qur'an, 'Aql, Ijmaa' and Mutawatir Hadeeth is clearly universal and applicable for all times. It is natural and freeing. There is no hardship in it. It is based on the Fitrah of man.

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Marriage has become an expensive and near impossible to tolerate, hell-on-earth sort of ordeal, all because men and women today grow up ignorant of its purpose, among a great many other basic things required to be a part of a family let alone the human society. That is the problem.

 

The solution? Again, for men I personally recommend the injections that rid us of the otherwise extremely dangerous irritations of....

the built up fluid.
Because as they build up past a point you are bound to fall into sin.

 

The unit of the society is a family, a man and a woman, and Satan and his lackeys know that and have been striking there and have managed to destroy it in half. Its a win-win situation for them. Society dies, and everybody sins.

 

It is near impossible to make women unlearn what they have learnt, especially after their parents are no more because they only listen to their own parents. So there is very little to do about this plague.

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I have always thought that ahadiths are merely speeches that belonged to that period of time where it was said.

I would completely understand if masturbation would be haram back in the time of the prophet : marriage was very easy.

But today, marriage is almost impossible .

i can also compare this situation to a hungry person in africa where his only option is pork. Bien que pork is haram, but it is his only option or else he will die.

I am not trying to defend masturbation. Just trying to look at this topic from different perspective.

 

As no Prophet or Imam said to what time it is restricted, it is also not upon us to restrict those saying to any time, and following just our own caprice. You can question any hadith but please don't give a blatant judgement on what time it is to apply or not.

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To those who claim that masturbation is not haram, why is it that we have many sahih hadith from many different Imams stating that it is. Myself and two other members have written a long article on this topic in the Brothers Forum. It is at the top and pinned, so you can't miss it. Hadith do not expire. If we establish that a hadith is sahih, and especially if we have many sahih (or above) hadith from different Imams stating the same position on an issue, then logically we must accept that if we consider ourselves followers of Ahl Al Bayt(a.s)

 

Masturbation is not one of those class of sins which are considered extremely serious, like murder or zina, but at the same time it can become extremely serious if one does it over and over without asking forgiveness of Allah(s.w.a) with sincerity and putting forth effort not to continue committing the sin. Also, this sin leads directly to other sins like not guarding the eyes and eventually zina. So it is not something that should be taken lightly. Anyone who does this should do Taubah and Allah(s.w.a) is Forgiving, Merciful. 

 

If there are some members on this forum who do this sin, please, please do not try to make yourself feel better by casting doubt amoung other members on the prohibition in Islam regarding this act. You are only making your situation worse, because there is a vast amount of evidence thru hadith from Ahl Al Bayt(a.s) that it is haram, that is why the marjaa' have the same position on this issue. There is no fatwa of Sayid Fadlallah(ra) stating that women can masturbate. There was a question someone asked and he put on his website with accompanying thoughts. Before misquoting the Sayid and characterizing his position on this, I suggest that anyone who want to know the truth go to Bayynat.org, go to the section 'Jurisprudence of Sex'

and see the full response with his thoughts. 

 

This issue is directly related to the issue of marriage and how marriage has been made so difficult, especially for our youth, by misguided cultural families and institutions and this has nothing to do with Islam. Those people will be accountable before Allah(s.w.a) for what they have been doing and are still doing. In a truly Islamic society, marriage would be very easy and those who did this sin would be very few. 

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Guys relax on quoting me. Re-read the end of my post, ... read it again 100 times.

I said : i am not trying to justify this haram act in any way.

Meaning i know this is haram. I dont need someone quoting and say otherwise

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To those who claim that masturbation is not haram, why is it that we have many sahih hadith from many different Imams stating that it is. Myself and two other members have written a long article on this topic in the Brothers Forum. It is at the top and pinned, so you can't miss it. Hadith do not expire. If we establish that a hadith is sahih, and especially if we have many sahih (or above) hadith from different Imams stating the same position on an issue, then logically we must accept that if we consider ourselves followers of Ahl Al Bayt(a.s)

 

Masturbation is not one of those class of sins which are considered extremely serious, like murder or zina, but at the same time it can become extremely serious if one does it over and over without asking forgiveness of Allah(s.w.a) with sincerity and putting forth effort not to continue committing the sin. Also, this sin leads directly to other sins like not guarding the eyes and eventually zina. So it is not something that should be taken lightly. Anyone who does this should do Taubah and Allah(s.w.a) is Forgiving, Merciful. 

 

If there are some members on this forum who do this sin, please, please do not try to make yourself feel better by casting doubt amoung other members on the prohibition in Islam regarding this act. You are only making your situation worse, because there is a vast amount of evidence thru hadith from Ahl Al Bayt(a.s) that it is haram, that is why the marjaa' have the same position on this issue. There is no fatwa of Sayid Fadlallah(ra) stating that women can masturbate. There was a question someone asked and he put on his website with accompanying thoughts. Before misquoting the Sayid and characterizing his position on this, I suggest that anyone who want to know the truth go to Bayynat.org, go to the section 'Jurisprudence of Sex'

and see the full response with his thoughts. 

 

This issue is directly related to the issue of marriage and how marriage has been made so difficult, especially for our youth, by misguided cultural families and institutions and this has nothing to do with Islam. Those people will be accountable before Allah(s.w.a) for what they have been doing and are still doing. In a truly Islamic society, marriage would be very easy and those who did this sin would be very few. 

 

Respected brother, you are so right. However, you fail to prescribe a dependable solution. Its amusing, to be frank, that you don't recommend continuous fasting as the solution like others.

 

Like Against Oneself writes, and I agree that that fluid is instead what leads to the sin of the eyes and zina, even rape. Once it is relieved, there is no need. Thus even if haram it protects from monumental sins like zina. Please tell us if there is any choice. For one thing there is nothing more embarrassing than to wake up late and find that the members of your family and even the house servants couldn't but noticed your morning wood while you were asleep.

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Many of these posts have strayed off Islam. Of course as a public forum, non Islamic views will be expressed regarding things considered haram within Islam.

This action of masturbation is completely forbidden within Islam. Continuous fasting if one wants can do it. The only course of action a person needs to take to stop doing this action, is actually stop doing the action.

It is forbidden completely unless you have been captured by an enemy and forces you to do it or they will kill you

Dancing is also haram.

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Many of these posts have strayed off Islam. Of course as a public forum, non Islamic views will be expressed regarding things considered haram within Islam.

This action of masturbation is completely forbidden within Islam. Continuous fasting if one wants can do it. The only course of action a person needs to take to stop doing this action, is actually stop doing the action.

It is forbidden completely unless you have been captured by an enemy and forces you to do it or they will kill you

 

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P.S.: Of course it is haram and injurious. I'm just trying to have a discussion.

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Q: Is masturbation permissible for the woman? Is it permissible for her to use any means in practicing this secret habit? 2/11/2006 12:45:55 PM
A: Woman does not masturbate because she has no spermatic fluid similar to man’s, and this matter is testified to by the experts and specialists. Thus, woman’s secret habit is not prohibited and she can use any means that is not harmful. However, it is recommendable that she should not practice this secret habit due to its negative effects, except if this secret habit may prevent her from committing Haraam (forbidden act).

http://english.bayynat.org.lb/QA/qa.aspx?id=86

 

This whole classification of hadeeth into strong and weak based on alleged reputations of narrators is a subjective science. It is conjectural. Solitary hadeeth are themselves conjectural also.

 

Among the various categories of hadith, there is a category known as khabar wahid thiqah - a hadith reported by a single reliable person. Khabar wahid thiqah is a dhanni source. Why? Because a hadith reported by a single person does not create conviction about its contents even if the reporter is reliable; there is the chance of forgetting, misunderstanding or unintended misquotation on the part of the truthful, reliable reporter.

http://www.al-islam.org/introduction-islamic-shariah-sayyid-muhammad-rizvi/system-ijtihad#convincing-qat’i-non-convincing-dhanni-souces

 

Dhanni means conjectural.

 

The anti-khabar al-wahid mujtahids of the 1st 5 centuries of Islam didn't care much about whether a hadeeth was classified as weak or strong but they cared about whether a hadeeth was mutawatir or not. Mutawatir means that so many people heard it directly from an infallible that it convinces one that it is impossible that it was fabricated. From my reading of Sharif al-Murtada's writings it appears that he heavily relied on the Qur'an and 'Aql for deriving laws in Islam and he only relied on Mutawatir hadeeth and Ijmaa' as a secondary source, not a parallel source. Most modern mujtahids do the opposite:
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235016241-al-haydaris-criticism-of-khuis-legal-methodology/

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Respected brother, you are so right. However, you fail to prescribe a dependable solution. Its amusing, to be frank, that you don't recommend continuous fasting as the solution like others.

 

Like Against Oneself writes, and I agree that that fluid is instead what leads to the sin of the eyes and zina, even rape. Once it is relieved, there is no need. Thus even if haram it protects from monumental sins like zina. Please tell us if there is any choice. For one thing there is nothing more embarrassing than to wake up late and find that the members of your family and even the house servants couldn't but noticed your morning wood while you were asleep.

The solution is marriage for the long term. Fasting is a short term solution and I have mentioned this in other posts, but fasting is not meant to replace marriage because Islam severly discourages lIving a monastic and celebate life. This lifestyle as well as the hedonistic lifestyle is not compatible with the fitra ( innate mature ) of the human being and so will lead to the destruction of the soul.

 

As for the other problem you mentioned, just keep a picture of Hillary Clinton close by. Staring at that for a minute or so will solve the problem for sure.

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1) The Quran says that for those who are unable to get married, they should practice patience (not masterbation).

2) To those of who are talking about "built up fluid": that is not an excuse because wet dreams happen for a reason.

3) If Masterbation was acceptable then why did the Prophet (S) recommend unmarried people to fast?

Yes, things maybe more difficult nowadays but we have no right to make excuses for ourselves. Rather our duty is to try our best and to leave the the final judgement to God alone while trusting in His mercy.

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The solution is marriage for the long term. Fasting is a short term solution and I have mentioned this in other posts, but fasting is not meant to replace marriage because Islam severly discourages lIving a monastic and celebate life. This lifestyle as well as the hedonistic lifestyle is not compatible with the fitra ( innate mature ) of the human being and so will lead to the destruction of the soul.

 

As for the other problem you mentioned, just keep a picture of Hillary Clinton close by. Staring at that for a minute or so will solve the problem for sure.

like this one ?

you do realise she will be your next president .

 

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3) If Masterbation was acceptable then why did the Prophet (S) recommend unmarried people to fast?

 

May be because masturbation had not even evolved or invented back then? Think about it. No women to see. No magazines. No TV. No internet. No shopping malls full of tightly clothed hijabis. BUT simultaneously, more than enough female slaves to buy, for one thing, and easy opportunities for the real thing all around. Believing women who were right in the heads, all around. So why would any man know about masturbation leave alone practice it. Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say. Think of it as water or the air you breath. Today breathing is still free. Tomorrow if it gets taxed and only the wealthy and resourceful are allowed access to air while your own each breath is allowed to be taken not until you pay a tax for it. Similarly, today sexual relief requires the common believing man to sell his soul. He can't buy it, as thats a great sin. There are no slave girls anymore. Women are educated against him. His rights are no more and not even spoken about anymore. He is guilty.

 

2) To those of who are talking about "built up fluid": that is not an excuse because wet dreams happen for a reason.

 

No. You should read up on the mechanics of that phenomena, or rather the absence of any mechanics of it. Its not like a safety valve that fires according to naturally set parameters.

 

1) The Quran says that for those who are unable to get married, they should practice patience (not masterbation).

 

Back to the first point. It is a mercy that the Quran even talks about the unmarried ones or most probably it is for us in the future. We are patient. Not committing any indecency, adultery, fornication, seeing a professional, etc., are we? No, rather a masterbater is the most decent religious nerd of all who doesn't look at, is interested in or bothers any women, ever, not even his own wife. He is the most patient of all.

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Now that's what I call Anti-Viagra. It also made me a little sick to my stomach (side effects you know). 

Sorry my dear bro , forgive me for such a stunt .

you can seek treatment and take heavy doses of pain killers if it gets too much.

For me I like to take the natural remedy of reciting :Dua-Joshen-Khabir , to keep away such entities.

When I posted the pic , I had my eyes shut , much like now jdiejd cnjchun jhue8u33838.

May be because masturbation had not even evolved or invented back then? Think about it. No women to see. No magazines. No TV. No internet. No shopping malls full of tightly clothed hijabis. BUT simultaneously, more than enough female slaves to buy, for one thing, and easy opportunities for the real thing all around. Believing women who were right in the heads, all around. So why would any man know about masturbation leave alone practice it. Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say. Think of it as water or the air you breath. Today breathing is still free. Tomorrow if it gets taxed and only the wealthy and resourceful are allowed access to air while your own each breath is allowed to be taken not until you pay a tax for it. Similarly, today sexual relief requires the common believing man to sell his soul. He can't buy it, as thats a great sin. There are no slave girls anymore. Women are educated against him. His rights are no more and not even spoken about anymore. He is guilty.

 

 

No. You should read up on the mechanics of that phenomena, or rather the absence of any mechanics of it. Its not like a safety valve that fires according to naturally set parameters.

 

 

Back to the first point. It is a mercy that the Quran even talks about the unmarried ones or most probably it is for us in the future. We are patient. Not committing any indecency, adultery, fornication, seeing a professional, etc., are we? No, rather a masterbater is the most decent religious nerd of all who doesn't look at, is interested in or bothers any women, ever, not even his own wife. He is the most patient of all.

or you can spend all your time on SC , and become a mass debater .

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Now that's what I call Anti-Viagra. It also made me a little sick to my stomach (side effects you know). 

 

I don't know. She looks like a merciless cannibal...

Any way, I am sorry for siding with the masterbaters. It is not my intention to provide excuses to the naive. And while I detest the act I also abhor the reason it exists. I would destroy them both if given the chance.

 

It seems to me that mankind today is helplessly slipping down the slopes of sin and falling into hellfire, only because we accepted and adopted the roots of sin and changed our ways enmasse, thinking them harmless. Its a punishment. How else do you explain circumstances so hard in these times. It is stressed by the seculars that the opposite genders are both different, distant and yet otherwise equal. Then the mullah has made any and all interactions with the opposite gender extremely taboo. Therefore everyone is now confused about sex and think of it as some kind of holy grail, making it the golden chip that is worth selling your soul. While the religion only directs us to have it in a legal way, and only wished ease upon mankind. We have lost our way.

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