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(Reuters) - Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum on the decision in 10 days' time in a dramatic escalation of the crisis over the Ukrainian Black Sea peninsula.


The sudden acceleration of moves to bring Crimea, which has an ethnic Russian majority and has effectively been seized by Russian forces, formally under Moscow's rule came as European Union leaders held an emergency summit groping for ways to pressure Russia to back down and accept mediation.


The 28-nation EU condemned Russian actions in Crimea as illegal, voiced support for Ukraine's territorial integrity but took only minor steps suspending talks with Moscow on visas and a new investment pact while warning of tougher steps if there is no negotiated solution within a short period.


By contrast, U.S. President Barack Obama announced immediate first steps to punish Russians and Ukrainians involved in what he called "threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine", ordering the freezing of their U.S. assets and a ban on travel to the United States.


The names on the blacklist were not immediately made public but a U.S. official said they did not include Russian President Vladimir Putin.


The Pentagon also announced a large-scale air force exercise in Poland which Washington's ambassador to Warsaw said had been augmented to reassure U.S. allies in the region in the light of the Ukraine crisis.


The crisis began in November when Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich, under Russian pressure, turned his back on a trade deal with the EU and accepted a $15 billion bailout from Moscow. That prompted three months of street protests leading to the overthrow of Yanukovich on February 22.


Moscow denounced the events as an illegitimate coup and refused to recognize the new Ukrainian authorities.




The Crimean parliament voted overwhelmingly on Thursday "to enter into the Russian Federation with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation".


The decision, which diplomats said could not have been made without Putin's approval, raised the stakes in the most serious east-west confrontation since the end of the Cold War.


The vice premier of Crimea, home to Russia's Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, said a referendum on the status would take place on March 16. All state property would be "nationalized", the Russian ruble adopted and Ukrainian troops treated as occupiers and forced to surrender or leave, he said.


EU leaders, the U.S. State Department and the new government of Ukraine all branded the referendum decision illegal because it was incompatible with the Ukrainian constitution.


Russian stocks fell and the ruble weakened further after the referendum news. Moody's ratings agency said the stand-off was negative for Russia's sovereign creditworthiness.


On the ground, a mission of 35 unarmed military observers from the pan-European Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe was stopped from entering Crimea by unidentified men in military fatigues when they travelled from the port of Odessa, Poland's defense minister said.


In Brussels, European Council President Herman Van Rompuy outlined a three stage plan to try to resolve the crisis, while announcing that the EU would sign the political parts of an far reaching agreement with Ukraine before May 25 elections there, and offer the country extensive aid and trade benefits.


Unless Moscow opens negotiations with Ukraine and an international "contact group" soon, the EU would move to travel bans and asset freezes on Russian officials, and boycott a planned June Group of Eight summit in Olympic venue Sochi.


If Russia took action that destabilizes Ukraine further, there would be "grave consequences" for bilateral economic ties, he said, without giving any deadlines. Poland's prime minister said the EU talks on sanctions had been "stormy", hinting at frustration at his inability to achieve stronger measures, which require a unanimous decision of 28 member states.




Putin has cited threats to Russian citizens to justify military action in Ukraine, as he did in Georgia in 2008. Far from seeking a diplomatic way out of the present crisis, Putin appears to have chosen to create facts on the ground before the West can agree on more than token action against him.


Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said after meeting EU leaders that Ukraine's armed forces would act if Russian military intervention escalated any further into Ukrainian territory. "We are ready to protect our country," he said.


Military experts say Kiev's small and underequipped forces are no match for Moscow's superpower might.


The U.S. Navy announced a guided-missile destroyer, the USS Truxton, was heading to the Black Sea in what it said was a long-planned training exercise and not a show of force


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who had refused to meet his Ukrainian counterpart on Wednesday, held talks with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in Rome, but said there was still no agreement after their third encounter in two days.


Earlier, Kerry discussed Ukraine with his colleagues from Britain, Germany, Italy and France, which are reluctant to impose sanctions, and informed them of U.S. plans to sanction individuals and officials whose identities were not made public.


The EU said it had frozen the assets of ousted Ukrainian president Yanukovich and 17 other officials suspected of human rights violations and misuse of state funds.


As expected, the EU summit was unwilling to adopt more than symbolic measures against Russia, Europe's biggest gas supplier, because neither industrial powerhouse Germany nor financial center Britain is keen to trigger a tit-for-tat trade war.


France has a deal to sell warships to Russia that it is so far not prepared to cancel, London's banks have profited from facilitating Russian investment, and German companies have $22 billion invested in Russia.


The European Commission has announced aid of up to 11 billion euros ($15 billion) for Ukraine over the next couple of years provided it reaches a deal with the International Monetary Fund, entailing painful reforms like ending gas subsidies.

European Central Bank chief Mario Draghi said the crisis had already had a major impact on the Russian and Ukrainian economies, but little effect so far on the euro zone. However if political risks mounted, Europe's economy could also be hit.




Russia kept the door ajar for more diplomacy on its own terms, announcing on Thursday a meeting of former Soviet states, including Ukraine, for April 4.


Lavrov said attempts by Western countries to take action over the Ukraine crisis via democracy watchdog OSCE and the NATO military alliance were not helpful.


He stuck to Putin's line - ridiculed by the West - that Moscow does not command the troops without national insignia which have taken control of Crimea, besieging Ukrainian forces, and hence cannot order them back to barracks.


Outside Crimea, in eastern and southern cities that saw big pro-Russian demonstrations, the tide of public opinion appears however to be turning in favor of Kiev.


Ukrainian police cleared pro-Moscow demonstrators from the regional parliament building in Donetsk, where pro-Kiev demonstrations are now much larger than pro-Moscow ones in the city, home town of ousted leader Yanukovich.


(Additional reporting by Luke Baker in Brussels, Elizabeth Piper, Lidia Kelly and Gabriela Baczynska in Moscow, Tim Heritage in Kiev, John Irish and Lesley Wroughton in Paris; Writing by Paul Taylor; editing by Anna Willard and Giles Elgood)

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VIsa bans and Asset freeze are aimed at the faction in Russian elite which is opposed to Putin and has huge economic interests in the EU.


Visa ban/Asset freeze tactic is to create a disunity and an eventual coup against Putin team with in Russian government clique.


Now you know why Iranians need to tread carefully for all that economic opening hype post the P5+1 negotiations? Once a group of government elites are hooked to the safety of Western banks and returns of Western stock markets, they are at complete mercy of Western economic asset freeze. Hence goes the story for the Arabs, the Lebanese, the Bakistanis, and so on.  

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VIsa bans and Asset freeze are aimed at the faction in Russian elite which is opposed to Putin and has huge economic interests in the EU.


Visa ban/Asset freeze tactic is to create a disunity and an eventual coup against Putin team with in Russian government clique.


Now you know why Iranians need to tread carefully for all that economic opening hype post the P5+1 negotiations? Once a group of government elites are hooked to the safety of Western banks and returns of Western stock markets, they are at complete mercy of Western economic asset freeze. Hence goes the story for the Arabs, the Lebanese, the Bakistanis, and so on.

Dont worry about Iran. They have the best political minds in the world

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Thank god sensible Canadian's in the comments section aren't buying into such blatant western rhetoric: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-pm-rejects-crimea-referendum-vows-to-defend-country-1.2561973

Guess what, majority of people in the Weste are not buying into all of this, same like this Kony hype.

But the media doesn't care about the people, and the people have no power to say or change anything.

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Ukrainian army conducts training exercises to invade Crimea

The Ukrainian Joint Armed Forces conducted drills relating to recapturing Crimea by Ukraine, said Ukrainian Lieutenant-General Sergey Nayev on November 2, First Sevastopol informs.

Nayev, the commander of the Ukrainian Joint Armed Forces, said that the exercise is currently underway, which is a preparation for the military operation to invade the peninsula.

After the exercises, according to the Ukrainian military, Ukrainian special forces will be moved to the border with Crimea in order to start military operations on command.

According to the Ukrainian commanders’ plans, the Ukrainian army’s units together with the SBU, police, border guard, and state emergency services will participate in these operations. In addition, specialists to neutralize sabotage-recon groups must be also involved.

According to Nayev, the Ukrainian army’s actions on the border with Crimea may start this autumn.


This is almost certainly related to the current NATO/Israeli/Vatican operations against Russia and Iran using “Sunni/Wahhabi–Salafi NATO” (Turkey, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, and the Saudi-/Emirati-led GCC) against Armenia, Poland and the Baltic States against Russian ally Belarus, France against Germany’s ties to North Stream II, etc. The GCC was successful in Libya and Egypt but failed to destroy its opponents in Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, so the West is telling the GCC to outsource its terrorists to Turkey/Azerbaijan. Musical chairs. Now Pope Francis, by his intentions and deeds, is openly and de facto admitting/conceding that the Roman Catholic Church was all along a pagan, crypto-Zionist/-Israelite, Satanist solar-cult, and is now openly promoting what in fact the Church had condoned all along, e.g., sexual degeneracy and Gaia-worship. All the product of the Israelites and Jews who abandoned the Torah in favour of power, while hiding behind an antisemitic, racist brand of “Christianity.” None of this is new; this is what Western Christianity (Vatican) and its offshoots (Protestantism) was all along. Fake Roman Empire 2.0. The real Roman Empire being Byzantium/Moscow and its brotherly neighbour Armenia, along with the rest of the Eastern and so-called “Nestorian” Christians, from Iraq to Egypt and Ethiopia. Now the Satanist Western “Christian” elites and their Zionist–fascist/Nazi–Wahhabi–Salafi partners in crime are ready for World War III. All the previous wars and cataclysms were of their doing. For millennia. Same players, same agendas, different camouflage. This is the NWO’s Wehrmacht.


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Stalin devoted his speech, among other things, to the problems of war and peace. And at the end he threw a phrase into the hall: ‘Down with the warmongers!’ And with his hand, he made it look as if he’d brushed them off the table. This speech was previously underestimated in our country. It was not very clear the meaning of it, or why Stalin made it. But now Stalin’s words are more than relevant again. ...

Two main ideas. Firstly, the banner of bourgeois-democratic liberties – freedom of speech, press, processions, and assembly, which the national bourgeoisie always raised on its shield – was thrown overboard. And now it is the workers, the communist parties, who must raise this banner. And the second important Stalinist message: before the bourgeoisie was the leader of the nation, fighting for its interests, and now the banner of the struggle for national sovereignty is also thrown out. And the bourgeoisie sells itself for dollars. Stalin stated: the postulates that we now call the ideas of globalism have become the dominant factor. ...

And now there are words in Europe that you can’t betray your national interests. Separatist movements in Catalonia, Scotland – are they primarily against the dictates of globalism?

In fact, yes. The danger of globalism in western, i.e. bourgeois, packaging was noted by Lenin in the early 20th century. ... his famous article ‘On the slogan of the United States of Europe’. He said that in the context of the crisis of this colonial system, when Germany also began to show increased interest in the already divided pie, projects of the United States of Europe are emerging. This is like a new form of colonial expansion of the advanced European powers ... against the European countries themselves, which, from the point of view of the ideologists of globalism or mondialism, were second-class, if not third-class countries.

The European Union is a de facto implementation of the century – old slogan of the (Vatican-promoted, Habsburg-fronted, Anglo-Saxon-Zionist-led – ed.) United States of Europe, where the dominant role is played by Germany, maybe a little France, and until recently – Great Britain. And all the countries of the southern underbelly (Romania, Greece, Bulgaria) or the Baltic states are purely semi-colonial countries, sources of cheap labour and raw materials (and Russia is the last big regional holdout to be conquered by the West – ed.).


the struggle against cosmopolitans is a struggle against the carriers of the idea of globalisation or mondialism, who spoke from the position of denying sovereignty and creating a world government (New World Order – ed.). These ideas were expressed during the war by Winston Churchill, the head of the British Foreign Ministry, Ernest Bevin. Even Albert Einstein. Our physicists, Pyotr Kapitsa, Nikolay Semyonov, and Abram Joffe, gave him an answer to his message to them, where they rejected the ideas of globalism developed by the famous physicist as not meeting the interests of the development of human civilisation. Stalin saw perfectly well that they carried the threat (against) the existence of national states and the emergence of a new war.

It so happened that first of all the (Zionist, Satanist – ed.) representatives of the Jewish (and pseudo-Christian, aristocratic – ed.) intelligentsia were the bearers of the ideas of globalism. At the same time, Stalin was not a zoological anti-Semite. He even told the Central Committee member and editor-in-chief of ‘Pravda’, Pyotr Pospelov, when the campaign against cosmopolitanism was ending: Pospelov, it is not necessary to fight against specific characters. You have to fight the ideas in the minds of these characters. We are fighting on an ideological level, not on the level of seeking out Jews or half-Jews. To assume that Stalin was a narrow-minded nationalist is to substitute the essence of the issue. ...

Stalin’s last theoretical work was published – ‘Economic problems of socialism in the USSR’. In it, he paid quite a lot of attention not only to assessing the state of the economy of western powers, but also to whether there is an inevitability of wars under imperialism in the nuclear age. And he concluded that Lenin’s doctrine of the inevitability of war remains the most alive. ... we see that imperialism, as a system not only economic, but also political, legal, and moral, is spewing out the lava of an inevitable war like the mouth of a volcano. The only deterrent is the presence of nuclear weapons.

Molotov, as Simonov wrote, was severely beaten by Stalin because Vyacheslav Mikhailovich behaved too frivolously towards our former allies. First of all, in relation to the US and the UK. Stalin didn’t like this. He believed that here Molotov lost the nose of a staunch Bolshevik who stands guard over the interests and supporters of the fight against imperialism; that Molotov gives them slack, promises them some relief, including from the point of view of propaganda of their ideas on the territory of the USSR. ... the secret information (about Molotov’s anti-Soviet, pro-Western, pro-Zionist intentions; Molotov secretly backed Khrushchev against Stalin’s ally Beria – ed.) reached the ears that were not intended for this. In particular, to the Israeli Ambassador to the Soviet Union Golda Meir. ...

Stalin significantly revised the role of the party and its governing bodies in the system of government of the country. The turn of Stalin’s famous managerial reform began. There was a (democratic – ed.) redistribution of power levers from the central party organisations to the then Council of People’s Commissars of the USSR. ... Stalin believed that the party should be left with two things – agitation and propaganda, and the selection and placement of personnel. And specific areas are the business of specialists, techies, and technocrats. And this should be handled by the Council of Ministers of the USSR. ...

There are many publications that say that Stalin did not die a natural death. Although he was a sick man. He’s already had several strokes. But even the fact of vomiting blood suggests that just as a result of a normal stroke, such vomiting would be impossible. ... Many professional historians do not exclude the fact that Stalin was actually poisoned. But the fact is that we still cannot study in detail the history of Stalin’s illness. The issue needs further study. And the most important thing is to find out who was really behind this whole operation.


Interesting response from the “Comments” section:


Globalism is spawned by capitalism. It is the financial elites and multinationals that dream to eliminate all national, cultural, historical, religious and even sexual identities in order to make humans nothing but automatons devoted to consumerism and hedonism. So it is only natural for Communists to stand against it.


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