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Salam,

 

I have been wanting to ask this for a while but just never found the time to do so. I would like to know if watching anime or reading manga is haram if it doesn't have a bad affect on you?

I asked a question on najaf.org about drawing anime/cartoons and they said that it was allowed since you aren't drawing someone from real life. I lost the email so I won't be able to post it but I will send another and hopefully post that answer on here. 

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(bismillah) 

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The answer of najaf.org is correct about regular cartoons , because they though you question is regarded to drawing thing from real life and you can understand this from their answer, but the point which is so important is that manga and anime are different from cartoons they are usually contain violence and sex  , and that's why you wrote in your question :

 

 if it doesn't have a bad affect on you?

 

 actually it is not " the bad affect" that's make a scene haram or halal so that somebody could say it doesn't have affect on me so this is halal to me, but haram to the other !  

 

Ayatullah Khamenie says : if it's done with [Edited Out] and lead to bad result it is haram . here are complete Q&As 

 

Q1180. Is it permissible to look at pictures of semi naked or naked women, unknown to us, such as those appearing on films and television?

 

 A:  Generally speaking, watching moving pictures and photographs does have not the same ruling as looking in reality at people non-maḥram to you. Accordingly, there is no objection to it, as per Islamic law, if it is not done with lust, evil intention, and does not lead to a bad result. However, since watching obscene pictures is inherently intertwined with looking with sexual urge, and it is a precursor to committing ḥarām acts, it is, therefore, ḥarām.

 

Q1185.  Some youth look at obscene pictures. They put forward a number of justifications for doing so. What is the view in this matter? Should looking at these pictures contribute to dulling the desire and, in turn minimizing the tendency to committing that which is ḥarām, how should one go about it?

 

A:Should looking at the pictures be with ill intentions or when the looker knows that it will lead to sexual excitation, the fear of falling into ḥarām, or bad consequences; it is ḥarām. Trying not to commit an act of ḥarām by allowing oneself to fall prey to that which is ḥarām at the outset is not a valid justification to embark on the practice.

 

 

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(bismillah) 

(salam) 

The answer of najaf.org is correct about regular cartoons , because they though you question is regarded to drawing thing from real life and you can understand this from their answer, but the point which is so important is that manga and anime are different from cartoons they are usually contain violence and sex  , and that's why you wrote in your question :

 

 

 actually it is not " the bad affect" that's make a scene haram or halal so that somebody could say it doesn't have affect on me so this is halal to me, but haram to the other !  

 

Ayatullah Khamenie says : if it's done with [Edited Out] and lead to bad result it is haram . here are complete Q&As 

 

Q1180. Is it permissible to look at pictures of semi naked or naked women, unknown to us, such as those appearing on films and television?

 

 A:  Generally speaking, watching moving pictures and photographs does have not the same ruling as looking in reality at people non-maḥram to you. Accordingly, there is no objection to it, as per Islamic law, if it is not done with lust, evil intention, and does not lead to a bad result. However, since watching obscene pictures is inherently intertwined with looking with sexual urge, and it is a precursor to committing ḥarām acts, it is, therefore, ḥarām.

 

Q1185.  Some youth look at obscene pictures. They put forward a number of justifications for doing so. What is the view in this matter? Should looking at these pictures contribute to dulling the desire and, in turn minimizing the tendency to committing that which is ḥarām, how should one go about it?

 

A:Should looking at the pictures be with ill intentions or when the looker knows that it will lead to sexual excitation, the fear of falling into ḥarām, or bad consequences; it is ḥarām. Trying not to commit an act of ḥarām by allowing oneself to fall prey to that which is ḥarām at the outset is not a valid justification to embark on the practice.

 

 

(wasalam)

 

Salam,

 

Thanks for your post but by saying it does not have a bad affect on me I meant that I am not watching anything with haram elements, my fault for not wording it properly their, sorry. Okay a show might contain that on character who might seem a little to 'exotic' but not enough to turn someone on, specially because it's not real too. I am not attracted to anime characters, the only thing I can judge a characters looks on is on the art, so art wise if that makes sense. 

 

My question wasn't geared towards the sexual sides of things because my favorite shows are action with no sexual elements. I am not going to lie I do watch some anime about romance but there are no 'sexual' elements in them, it's all talk. Like it's very rare for a kiss to even happen for some reason, etc. I was more worried about the fact that watching anything animated is haram in itself.

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Speaking as a fan of comics, cartoons,  and anime myself and as a Shi'ite, I'll give you my own opinion and what I know has been said by various maraji. First off, I think the rules regarding animation or comics as far as many maraji would be concerned falls under similar rulings or opinions regarding normal entertainment. For example, some maraji I've read responses to the question of whether it is okay to watch movies featuring women without proper hijab, and the reply is usually something like "as long as it is not depicting the non-observance of hijab by Muslims and promoting it as the official position of Islam," and/or "as long as it is not in a way meant to inspire lust in the person." Just so you know, I'm paraphrasing a little here. Basically, many maraji will tell you it's okay to watch movies where the women, who are usually non-Muslims, aren't observing what the said marja feels to be proper Islamic female modesty, as long as it isn't trying to convince Muslim women to behave that way and doesn't cross a certain threshold (like full nudity or something)

 

If I might offer an approach that I think is reasonable here and which has helped me to sort out all the different forms of entertainment I enjoy, I'd say you have to be able to divide up what you're watching as far as anime or animated movies/shows in general into three basic categories:

 

1. Work that promotes values unique to or shared with Islam as you understand it.

 

This category would include something that is advertising moral values and ethics which are relatively in line with Islamic ones, either due to a member of the production team being Muslim or just due to a meeting point between Islam's value system and whatever value system of whatever religion or worldview the production team has.

 

2. Work that actively promotes values which contradict fundamental Islamic values

 

Pretty self explanatory. Where a particular form of entertainment is largely produced by a culture that is not very Islamic, there are bound to be productions where one is unable to rationalize or harmonize the values promoted from some kind of Islamic point of view or even work which directly challenges an important and unwavering aspect of one's Islamic value sytem.

 

3. Work which depicts behavior that is not in line with Islamic values, perhaps alongside those which in fact are, but does not necessarily actively promote them.

 

Here we mean something where for example, a character or situation is depicted which is in fact against Islamic values. However, the presentation of the material is in a manner that could be considered propaganda, but rather a depiction of the nature or reality of the setting or character depicted, whether real or fictional. For example, the depiction of the rape or murder of a character by another character within a story does not necessarily mean that the story is promoting the act of rape or murder. The depiction of values or activities contrary to Islamic values does not have to be taken as propaganda for the promotion of those values/activities, but may simply be presented as a reality of life in this world or the world depicted, either in a way that criticizes subtly or overtly these behaviors or presents them without any commentary one way or the other, leaving the reader/viewer to make their own judgement call. Or it may portray morally objectionable or questionable behavior in a manner that doesn't promote it, but presents in a comedic or humorous manner. Being an anime fan, I'm sure you've watched a few shows where a main character has a habit of getting drunk and it gets played for laughs. When you see something like that, think of the presentation. Is it telling you to go get drunk because it's fun and good for a laugh? Or is it just showing one of the character's flaws in a humorous way without passing a real judgement on them? The same thing could be asked about the way something depicts various forms of female dress which don't fly with our understanding of Islam or with the depiction of a character less than savory sexual habits. To what extent is this behavior being actively promoted and to what extent can we just write it off in our minds as a depiction

 

 

Depending on whether or not you see yourself falling into more of a "liberal" or "conservative" camp when it comes to interpreting Islam, sorting out what you watch or read or listen to according to this method may broaden your choices or severely limit them. I'm not here to tell you what is legal or illegal for a Muslim or what I feel is okay or isn't for a Muslim to read/watch, I'm just trying to present a method by which you might be able to better judge for yourself according to your understand of Islam.

 

It's important to bear in mind that the three categories I listed are not mutually exclusive but can often overlap where something can simultaneously promote values you agree with and values you disagree with or actively promote one thing while not making an explicit judgement on another, portraying it simply as "a reality." Or is this particular set of values being promoted to a small extent, but not to an extent that one who doesn't agree with them feels compelled by the product to accept them and can't just write them off in their own mind as a mere depiction of another culture. Organizing shows or comics according to how much they appear to fall within each of these three categories to varying degrees I think can at least help you figure out which stuff is "right for you," if anything.

 

Now, if I may present my own opinion on female nudity in drawn images or animated format, I personally tend to stray away from any live action film that I feel depicts outright female nudity because I don't want to support women, not even non-Muslim women, exposing too much of themselves publicly. But I tend to more lenient when it comes to animation because in animation, none of the women are real and I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the depiction of the nude female body as long as it is not done so in way that lacks sophistication and is vulgar or lustful or if it is in fact presented in something of a vulgar manner it is not so vulgar that it has to be taken as celebrating lust or pornography but as just part of the setting. But again, that's my approach. You may have a different one.

 

As to picture making in general, it actually has a very long history in the culture of the Islamic world, both Sunni and Shi'ites and most Muslim leaders today, Shi'ite and Sunni, permit it at least in terms of the secular sphere of life. With Shi'ite maraji, there are some who don't believe in the portrait of living things, but I know plenty of marja don't see a problem with picture making of living things (human or animal) in and of itself as long as it doesn't cross a certain line and certainly on the popular levels of Shi'ite society, picture making either of ordinary things or religious events or persons abounds (plenty of Shi'ites would get mad if you tried to take away their portraits of the Imams or the Battle of Karbala). All animation is is moving pictures so if a marja or community of Shi'ites see no issue with ordinary picture making and depiction of living things, it follows that animation depicting living things is permissible as long as it follows the same rules as those which govern ordinary still image drawing.

 

 

Hope that helps

 

 

 

 Like it's very rare for a kiss to even happen for some reason, 

 

That's because, despite what you may think Japan is like through other anime, Japanese people can be really uptight or sexually awkward. Anime's depiction of Japanese sexuality is more often than not a form of escapism. Many Japanese men and women don't marry or even just go long periods without any form of sexual intimacy, even if they are married, to focus on things like school and work. They also tend to be uncomfortable with public displays of affection. The obsessive anime fan market in Japan (otakus) also tends to exhibit extremely awkward sexual behavior that prevent many of them from forming quality social relationships, particularly with the opposite sex, or they exhibit interest in unrealistic sexual fetishes which can only really be satisfied by anime products.

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Speaking as a fan of comics, cartoons,  and anime myself and as a Shi'ite, I'll give you my own opinion and what I know has been said by various maraji. First off, I think the rules regarding animation or comics as far as many maraji would be concerned falls under similar rulings or opinions regarding normal entertainment. For example, some maraji I've read responses to the question of whether it is okay to watch movies featuring women without proper hijab, and the reply is usually something like "as long as it is not depicting the non-observance of hijab by Muslims and promoting it as the official position of Islam," and/or "as long as it is not in a way meant to inspire lust in the person." Just so you know, I'm paraphrasing a little here. Basically, many maraji will tell you it's okay to watch movies where the women, who are usually non-Muslims, aren't observing what the said marja feels to be proper Islamic female modesty, as long as it isn't trying to convince Muslim women to behave that way and doesn't cross a certain threshold (like full nudity or something)

 

If I might offer an approach that I think is reasonable here and which has helped me to sort out all the different forms of entertainment I enjoy, I'd say you have to be able to divide up what you're watching as far as anime or animated movies/shows in general into three basic categories:

 

1. Work that promotes values unique to or shared with Islam as you understand it.

 

This category would include something that is advertising moral values and ethics which are relatively in line with Islamic ones, either due to a member of the production team being Muslim or just due to a meeting point between Islam's value system and whatever value system of whatever religion or worldview the production team has.

 

2. Work that actively promotes values which contradict fundamental Islamic values

 

Pretty self explanatory. Where a particular form of entertainment is largely produced by a culture that is not very Islamic, there are bound to be productions where one is unable to rationalize or harmonize the values promoted from some kind of Islamic point of view or even work which directly challenges an important and unwavering aspect of one's Islamic value sytem.

 

3. Work which depicts behavior that is not in line with Islamic values, perhaps alongside those which in fact are, but does not necessarily actively promote them.

 

Here we mean something where for example, a character or situation is depicted which is in fact against Islamic values. However, the presentation of the material is in a manner that could be considered propaganda, but rather a depiction of the nature or reality of the setting or character depicted, whether real or fictional. For example, the depiction of the rape or murder of a character by another character within a story does not necessarily mean that the story is promoting the act of rape or murder. The depiction of values or activities contrary to Islamic values does not have to be taken as propaganda for the promotion of those values/activities, but may simply be presented as a reality of life in this world or the world depicted, either in a way that criticizes subtly or overtly these behaviors or presents them without any commentary one way or the other, leaving the reader/viewer to make their own judgement call. Or it may portray morally objectionable or questionable behavior in a manner that doesn't promote it, but presents in a comedic or humorous manner. Being an anime fan, I'm sure you've watched a few shows where a main character has a habit of getting drunk and it gets played for laughs. When you see something like that, think of the presentation. Is it telling you to go get drunk because it's fun and good for a laugh? Or is it just showing one of the character's flaws in a humorous way without passing a real judgement on them? The same thing could be asked about the way something depicts various forms of female dress which don't fly with our understanding of Islam or with the depiction of a character less than savory sexual habits. To what extent is this behavior being actively promoted and to what extent can we just write it off in our minds as a depiction

 

 

Depending on whether or not you see yourself falling into more of a "liberal" or "conservative" camp when it comes to interpreting Islam, sorting out what you watch or read or listen to according to this method may broaden your choices or severely limit them. I'm not here to tell you what is legal or illegal for a Muslim or what I feel is okay or isn't for a Muslim to read/watch, I'm just trying to present a method by which you might be able to better judge for yourself according to your understand of Islam.

 

It's important to bear in mind that the three categories I listed are not mutually exclusive but can often overlap where something can simultaneously promote values you agree with and values you disagree with or actively promote one thing while not making an explicit judgement on another, portraying it simply as "a reality." Or is this particular set of values being promoted to a small extent, but not to an extent that one who doesn't agree with them feels compelled by the product to accept them and can't just write them off in their own mind as a mere depiction of another culture. Organizing shows or comics according to how much they appear to fall within each of these three categories to varying degrees I think can at least help you figure out which stuff is "right for you," if anything.

 

Now, if I may present my own opinion on female nudity in drawn images or animated format, I personally tend to stray away from any live action film that I feel depicts outright female nudity because I don't want to support women, not even non-Muslim women, exposing too much of themselves publicly. But I tend to more lenient when it comes to animation because in animation, none of the women are real and I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the depiction of the nude female body as long as it is not done so in way that lacks sophistication and is vulgar or lustful or if it is in fact presented in something of a vulgar manner it is not so vulgar that it has to be taken as celebrating lust or pornography but as just part of the setting. But again, that's my approach. You may have a different one.

 

As to picture making in general, it actually has a very long history in the culture of the Islamic world, both Sunni and Shi'ites and most Muslim leaders today, Shi'ite and Sunni, permit it at least in terms of the secular sphere of life. With Shi'ite maraji, there are some who don't believe in the portrait of living things, but I know plenty of marja don't see a problem with picture making of living things (human or animal) in and of itself as long as it doesn't cross a certain line and certainly on the popular levels of Shi'ite society, picture making either of ordinary things or religious events or persons abounds (plenty of Shi'ites would get mad if you tried to take away their portraits of the Imams or the Battle of Karbala). All animation is is moving pictures so if a marja or community of Shi'ites see no issue with ordinary picture making and depiction of living things, it follows that animation depicting living things is permissible as long as it follows the same rules as those which govern ordinary still image drawing.

 

 

Hope that helps

 

 

That's because, despite what you may think Japan is like through other anime, Japanese people can be really uptight or sexually awkward. Anime's depiction of Japanese sexuality is more often than not a form of escapism. Many Japanese men and women don't marry or even just go long periods without any form of sexual intimacy, even if they are married, to focus on things like school and work. They also tend to be uncomfortable with public displays of affection. The obsessive anime fan market in Japan (otakus) also tends to exhibit extremely awkward sexual behavior that prevent many of them from forming quality social relationships, particularly with the opposite sex, or they exhibit interest in unrealistic sexual fetishes which can only really be satisfied by anime products.

 

Thanks for the post brother, very helpful. I think I will be able to draw the line when I shouldn't be watching something.  ^_^

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I watch lots of animes

Yu-gi-oh used to be dubbed and released here during my childhood and I absolutely loved it. I stopped seeing them for a while but then started again after joining college

My college is like 25 km from my house and it takes an hour to reach it via my college and I spend a lot of time watching Animes. Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist and Naruto are some of my favourites 

It honestly has had no bad effects on me

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13 hours ago, Hassu93 said:

I watch lots of animes

Yu-gi-oh

Yu-gi-oh is completly a masonic Anime 

13 hours ago, Hassu93 said:

It honestly has had no bad effects on me

most of their damage on our subconsciousness not what we compare in  our daily life , every Anime has it's affection on us ,all of modern Animes are full of Masonic & Atheistic & Christian symbols but we don't have Islamic Symbols except barbaric Symbolism & stereotypes except in rare animes that we need to produce & insert right symbols in this field because of it's popularity in whole world between many generations.

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13 hours ago, Hassu93 said:

I watch lots of animes

Yu-gi-oh

Yu-gi-oh is completly a masonic Anime 

13 hours ago, Hassu93 said:

It honestly has had no bad effects on me

most of their damage on our subconsciousness not what we compare in  our daily life , every Anime has it's affection on us ,all of modern Animes are full of Masonic & Atheistic & Christian symbols but we don't have Islamic Symbols except barbaric Symbolism & stereotypes except in rare animes that we need to produce & insert right symbols in this field because of it's popularity in whole world between many generations.

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Honnestly when I was young I read a lot dragon ball but now I am not really anymore a fan of anime/manga, i watched by curiosity and nostalgy dragon ball super but I didn't even really like it. Violence is actually for me not to much the problem in anime/manga nowadays but more pornography wich is very present strangely in many anime. 

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