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Salaam I was wondering and think I heard it before but forget details when were Sunnis first called ahlus sunnah wa jamaa'?

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it is still a controversial topic to clarify when and who exactly has chosen this term for those who believe in caliphate of Abu-bakr, Umar , Usman.

but what is clear and has been mentioned in historical book is that they were not called ahlus sunnah wa jamaa up to the beginning of the second  century when Umar _ibn Abdulaziz permitted narrators to narrate the traditions and start writing them. the job which had been prohibited at the time of Umar due to some political reasons.

But even after this permission up to the age of Muhammad ibn abdul wahhab there were two major terms Ahl- Hadith ( those who rely on traditions like Ahmad ibn Hanbal)  and Ahl -Raiy( those who rely on reasoning rather than traditions like the followers of Abu - Hanifah) . this combination and giving one name which implies a positive meaning against other branches isn't possible without the political and financial supports that Muhammad ibn abdul wahhab has been benefiting from.

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The noble companion, ‘Abdullaah Ibn ‘Abbaas was the first to use the term Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa‘ah within his interpretation of the verse wherein Allaah The Almighty Says (what means): {On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black.} [Quran 3:106]

He said that those whose faces will turn white are the followers of the Sunnah, and those whose faces will turn black are the people of religious innovations.

This expression was meant to outline the greatest features that distinguish the followers of the Sunnah, which are their adherence to the way of the Prophet , in word and deed; holding fast to the Muslim community and never being divided; and never disobeying anyone whose obedience has been made obligatory on them. These features distinguished the followers of the Sunnah from the Khawaarij sect, whereas the other sects mostly differed with the followers of the Sunnah in the first feature.

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The noble companion, ‘Abdullaah Ibn ‘Abbaas was the first to use the term Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa‘ah within his interpretation of the verse wherein Allaah The Almighty Says (what means): {On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black.} [Quran 3:106]

He said that those whose faces will turn white are the followers of the Sunnah, and those whose faces will turn black are the people of religious innovations.

This expression was meant to outline the greatest features that distinguish the followers of the Sunnah, which are their adherence to the way of the Prophet , in word and deed; holding fast to the Muslim community and never being divided; and never disobeying anyone whose obedience has been made obligatory on them. These features distinguished the followers of the Sunnah from the Khawaarij sect, whereas the other sects mostly differed with the followers of the Sunnah in the first feature.

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The first usage of the phrase Ahlul Sunnah W'al Jama'a was used to denote a group that emerged during the year of Jama'a. This militant faction was initially not concerned with the rule Abu Bakr, Uthman or Omar, since they had died. Instead, they sought the (re)installment of Mauwiyah I to power.

 

Keeping in mind that the traditions emphasizing "Quran and Sunnah" are in fact weak, now dismissed as Ummayad revisions (see video), the phrase "Ahlul Sunnah" (people of traditionalism) in that period may very well signify a return to pre-Islamic aristocracy, which is exactly what ensued after the overthrow of Hassan bin Ali.

 

 

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The noble companion, ‘Abdullaah Ibn ‘Abbaas was the first to use the term Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa‘ah within his interpretation of the verse wherein Allaah The Almighty Says (what means): {On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black.} [Quran 3:106]

He said that those whose faces will turn white are the followers of the Sunnah, and those whose faces will turn black are the people of religious innovations.

This expression was meant to outline the greatest features that distinguish the followers of the Sunnah, which are their adherence to the way of the Prophet , in word and deed; holding fast to the Muslim community and never being divided; and never disobeying anyone whose obedience has been made obligatory on them. These features distinguished the followers of the Sunnah from the Khawaarij sect, whereas the other sects mostly differed with the followers of the Sunnah in the first feature.

 

Ahsant!

 

So this means all those who follow the real Sunnah of Prophet (pbuh) is among the Ahlul Sunnah. This means all Shia of Imam Ali qualify to be the Ahlul Sunnah because Shia follow the true Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh).

 

As far as those who are so called phony "Ahlul Sunnah", let them be happy in their mist of Sunnah of Umer, Muawiah, and Ayesha, ultimately the Sunnah of rebellion and arrogance, ultimately the Innovation into Islam, ultimately the Sunnah of Iblees.  

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Salaam I was wondering and think I heard it before but forget details when were Sunnis first called ahlus sunnah wa jamaa'?

 

(wasalam)

Sunnis were there from the time of the Prophet (saw). Sunni means those who follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw). 

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Wa salaam not according to a Sunni history teacher I know of he says there was only Shia of Ali and common people. After the fourth century hijr sunnis started getting more organized as a group. Although splits happened making the divid bigger each time such such as after event of karbalah anyways historians were more neutral and not biased before 4th century and reported many things in shia of Ali favor.

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Absurd.

 

 

 

There is absolutely no historical evidence that any group, movement or current referred to as Sunni (or anything along those lines) existed during the life of the Prophet Mohammad. The entire idea of Sunnism as a homogeneous group is actually recent, and dates back to the Saudi reaction to Nasserism.

 

The first proven record of any group known as the Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jama'a emerging dates back to 41AH, about 30 years after the death of Mohammed.

 

The Ahlul Sunnah was a political movement that sought to re-establish old feudal lords from the Ummayad family.

 

The four schools have little in common with that era or that movement.

 

 

 

 

 

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