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Is Basim Karbalai Attacking Ayatollah Yagobo Here?

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You can see the videos of Bassem on each of Ashoura where he addresses Sayed Khamenei, Sayed Fadlallah and lots of other Maraji and Ulama that differ in views of Tatbir and so.

There is no difference between people like Bassem Karbalai, and Wahhabis.

They both attack people just because other differ in somethings, or have different views.

 

Do you have examples? Videos?

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(bismillah)

 

(salam)

 

Imam al-Sadiq (as) says:

 

There is none who recites poetry about Husain (A.S.) and weeps and makes others weep by means of it, except that Allah makes Paradise incumbent upon him and forgives his sins.

 

 

 

Bassim is a clown who was blessed with a nice voice. Unfortunately, he has used that voice for evil, and he will be held accountable for that.

 

There is no difference between people like Bassem Karbalai, and Wahhabis.

 

Imam Ali (as): Do contemplate before speaking so that you may guard yourself from (committing) errs.

 

Bassim al Karbalai is a servant of Imam Hussain (as). Unfortunately, over the past few years he has made certain mistakes, one of which was to deviate from the original form and purpose of latmiyaat (which was to narrate and revive the tragedies of Aba Abdillah (as) ) and use it for propaganda instead (which sadly many people have been doing in recent times).

 

The right thing for him to do would be to go back to reciting latmiyaat for their intended purpose and to behave as someone in that position should.

 

Having said that, I don't think either of your statements are justified.

 

Wallahu A'lam.

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You can see the videos of Bassem on each of Ashoura where he addresses Sayed Khamenei, Sayed Fadlallah and lots of other Maraji and Ulama that differ in views of Tatbir and so.

There is no difference between people like Bassem Karbalai, and Wahhabis.

They both attack people just because other differ in somethings, or have different views.

 

Shias are too emotional with tatbir and demonize anyone who criticize them...

As for Fadlallah, he allows watching pornography is some circumstances...

http://english.bayynat.org.lb/jurisprudence/sex.htm

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All these Tatbeer, karbalai talk etc. aside, I am wondering about people putting Sayed Khamenai and Sayed Fadlallah next to each other, as if they were the same. Noting that even during life time he didn't agree with most of Shia Ulama and was described as not a Mujtahid, even and above all by WF(Sayed Khamenai) supporters.

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All these Tatbeer, karbalai talk etc. aside, I am wondering about people putting Sayed Khamenai and Sayed Fadlallah next to each other, as if they were the same. Noting that even during life time he didn't agree with most of Shia Ulama and was described as not a Mujtahid, even and above all by WF(Sayed Khamenai) supporters.

 

Some will say Khameini is a Batri for forbidden the curse of Sunni symbols.

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(bismillah)

 

(salam)

 

Imam al-Sadiq (as) says:

 

There is none who recites poetry about Husain (A.S.) and weeps and makes others weep by means of it, except that Allah makes Paradise incumbent upon him and forgives his sins.

 

 

 

Imam Ali (as): Do contemplate before speaking so that you may guard yourself from (committing) errs.

 

Bassim al Karbalai is a servant of Imam Hussain (as). Unfortunately, over the past few years he has made certain mistakes, one of which was to deviate from the original form and purpose of latmiyaat (which was to narrate and revive the tragedies of Aba Abdillah (as) ) and use it for propaganda instead (which sadly many people have been doing in recent times).

 

The right thing for him to do would be to go back to reciting latmiyaat for their intended purpose and to behave as someone in that position should.

 

Having said that, I don't think either of your statements are justified.

 

Wallahu A'lam.

 

Don't be absurd. He threw away all the good deeds he accumulated when he attacked the Maraji'.

 

2:191 - "والفتنة أشد من القتل"

 

Is a murderer who recites still a 'servant of Imam al-Hussein'? Bassim is worse than a murderer. 

 

 

All these Tatbeer, karbalai talk etc. aside, I am wondering about people putting Sayed Khamenai and Sayed Fadlallah next to each other, as if they were the same. Noting that even during life time he didn't agree with most of Shia Ulama and was described as not a Mujtahid, even and above all by WF(Sayed Khamenai) supporters.

 

You are full of absurd, unjustified statements.

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You are full of absurd, unjustified statements.

Yes, because with your emotional talk you think can refute my claims.

Do some research on your own and don't blame me for what other Ulama have stated.

Here just some start for your research about my 'absurd, unjustified statements':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hussein_Fadlallah

Look up the "Opposition from Grand Ayatollahs" part and the links where the right citations are and then come back and accuse me of whatever you want. And please don't say as an excuse that it is Wikipedia. I said, do your own research on his Ijtehad(means not how good or bad he was).

And please don't miss the Shaikh Jawad Tabrizi part.

Many Fatawa are on Shiachat with the original signatures. As I stated do your own research.

Edited by Shiabro

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All these Tatbeer, karbalai talk etc. aside, I am wondering about people putting Sayed Khamenai and Sayed Fadlallah next to each other, as if they were the same. Noting that even during life time he didn't agree with most of Shia Ulama and was described as not a Mujtahid, even and above all by WF(Sayed Khamenai) supporters.

Politically they walk on the same path.

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Yes, because with your emotional talk you think can refute my claims.

Do some research on your own and don't blame me for what other Ulama have stated.

Here just some start for your research about my 'absurd, unjustified statements':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hussein_Fadlallah

Look up the "Opposition from Grand Ayatollahs" part and the links where the right citations are and then come back and accuse me of whatever you want. And please don't say as an excuse that it is Wikipedia. I said, do your own research on his Ijtehad(means not how good or bad he was).

And please don't miss the Shaikh Jawad Tabrizi part.

Many Fatawa are on Shiachat with the original signatures. As I stated do your own research.

 

Wikipedia :lol:

 

In that list, it says that Shaheed Seyyid Muhammad Muhammad-Sadiq al-Sadr denounced Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad. He didn't.

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How do you justify making fun of someone with a disability? Oh wait! I know!! Just throw Imam Hussain's (as) name into it and suddenly you're justified.

 

That is disgusting, non-Islamic, inexcusable behavior even if he were talking about my worst enemy. Regardless of whether or not someone is doing something you don't agree with resorting to demeaning someone physically is atrocious. 

 

I will not be listening to him any longer, because supporting someone like him is just as horrible as supporting someone like Gaga. 

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Note: My intention is not to defend the above lecturer or singer, I have never listened to him except for once or twice and don't like his voice. I can remember a few years back, all Lebanese and Arabs listened to him.

But to the guys who defend Sayed Fadlallah's Ijtehad and put him next to other Ulama, they are just wrong.

And it is a shame for a chat mod to go down on this guy's level and also throw around with insults(clown, evil..)

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Note: My intention is not to defend the above lecturer or singer, I have never listened to him except for once or twice and don't like his voice. I can remember a few years back, all Lebanese and Arabs listened to him.

But to the guys who defend Sayed Fadlallah's Ijtehad and put him next to other Ulama, they are just wrong.

And it is a shame for a chat mod to go down on this guy's level and also throw around with insults(clown, evil..)

 

Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad has been attested to by many eminent scholars, including Seyyid Abu al-Qassim al-Khoei.

 

Not one word that I used is un-Islamic. They are merely adjectives that describe Mr. Karbalai's personality adequately. 

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Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad has been attested to by many eminent scholars, including Seyyid Abu al-Qassim al-Khoei.

 

Not one word that I used is un-Islamic. They are merely adjectives that describe Mr. Karbalai's personality adequately. 

 

 

 

His ijtihad was rejected by many of the top Scholars in both Najaf and Qom. You know this. No need to repeat ourselves more than once. 

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^where did sayyid khoie attest to it? I never heard that claimed in fact people tend to say he never did and that is one reason of worriment. I would like to see if he did that would solve his whole issue as sayyid khouie was his teacher.

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His ijtihad was rejected by many of the top Scholars in both Najaf and Qom. You know this. No need to repeat ourselves more than once. 

 

 

 

Not really in Najaf. The only Marji' in Najaf who voiced his opinion is Sheikh Bashir al-Najafi.

And not in Qom either to be honest. There are plenty of top scholars in Qom who supported Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad - though there are also many that didn't.

 

Seyyid al-Khoei:

 

«اني أذكر ان بعض علماء لبنان أرسلوا للسيد الخوئي(رض) أن السيد فضل الله إستحوذ على المال في قضية مفصلة ,في أول مبنى وهو مبرة السيد الخوئي في الدوحة ,فرد عليهم السيد الخوئي ,من دون الرجوع إليه " إن وكيلنا المطلق السيد فضل الله ,هو مجتهد وله رأيه ويده يدي ولسانه لساني " ».

 

http://www.yahosein.com/vb/showthread.php?t=146386

 

 

Shaheed Seyyid Muhammad al-Sadr also attested to Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad - I have handwritten letters, if you're genuinely interested. 

^where did sayyid khoie attest to it? I never heard that claimed in fact people tend to say he never did and that is one reason of worriment. I would like to see if he did that would solve his whole issue as sayyid khouie was his teacher.

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Not really in Najaf. The only Marji' in Najaf who voiced his opinion is Sheikh Bashir al-Najafi.

And not in Qom either to be honest. There are plenty of top scholars in Qom who supported Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad - though there are also many that didn't.

Seyyid al-Khoei:

«اني أذكر ان بعض علماء لبنان أرسلوا للسيد الخوئي(رض) أن السيد فضل الله إستحوذ على المال في قضية مفصلة ,في أول مبنى وهو مبرة السيد الخوئي في الدوحة ,فرد عليهم السيد الخوئي ,من دون الرجوع إليه " إن وكيلنا المطلق السيد فضل الله ,هو مجتهد وله رأيه ويده يدي ولسانه لساني " ».

http://www.yahosein.com/vb/showthread.php?t=146386

Shaheed Seyyid Muhammad al-Sadr also attested to Seyyid FadhlAllah's Ijtihad - I have handwritten letters, if you're genuinely interested.

can you translate? And how did Shaheed sadr attest to it when fadlullah did not claim being an marja until several years after his death. Even fadlullahs site dose not list his teachers and say some say he dose not because his teachers dI'd not give it.

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Q: Is it permissible for a frigid wife or husband to watch pornographic scenes?


A: I don’t think it has been scientifically proven that watching pornographic films is a reliable treatment for frigidity; on the contrary, it often has negative results. Also, morally speaking, this weakens moral immunity, and attaches people, even couples, to a mood of dissolution which makes man feel alienated from his wife when she fails to imitate the woman who plays the sexual role in the film, and makes the wife alienated from her husband if he fails to imitate the male figure.


Similarly, the same thing happens upon fornication. When a man fornicates with an experienced [Edited Out], he feels disappointed when his wife fails to offer moves similar to the ones offered by the [Edited Out], who has provided him with all elements of excitement. Perhaps this is one among the reasons that have led some jurists to forbid temporary marriage (mutaa) to common prostitutes. So, we believe that the x-rated movies and pornography have a negative impact on the spiritual, moral and family sides of a person; thus, I forbid it for spouses.


But, if a husband or a wife, or both suffer frigidity in the absence of any means of treatment, whether natural- through mutual excitation -or through medication, and if the only treatment is watching pornographic scenes, then this will be permissible, only because this is the only means, keeping in mind that this should be done apart from any excess, just like taking the proper dosage of the medicine prescribed, provided that this passive situation may threaten their matrimonial life.


 


http://english.bayynat.org.lb/jurisprudence/sex.htm


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can you translate? And how did Shaheed sadr attest to it when fadlullah did not claim being an marja until several years after his death. Even fadlullahs site dose not list his teachers and say some say he dose not because his teachers dI'd not give it.

 

There was a misunderstanding with Khums money - Seyyid FadhlAllah had a Wakala from Seyyid al-Khoei at the time. When the issue was taken to Seyyid al-Khoei, the Seyyid said 'Seyyid FadhlAllah's is absolutely our Wakeel; he's a Mujtahid, and he has his own opinions; his hand is my hand, and his tongue is my tongue'.

 

You may have the wrong Shaheed al-Sadr in mind? Seyyid Muhammad's Marja'ya started around 1991, and ended in 1999 with his martyrdom. 

You don't need to be someone's teacher to attest to someone's Ijtihad. Mujtahids can read each others researches and books, and decide from that.

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There was a misunderstanding with Khums money - Seyyid FadhlAllah had a Wakala from Seyyid al-Khoei at the time. When the issue was taken to Seyyid al-Khoei, the Seyyid said 'Seyyid FadhlAllah's is absolutely our Wakeel; he's a Mujtahid, and he has his own opinions; his hand is my hand, and his tongue is my tongue'.

You may have the wrong Shaheed al-Sadr in mind? Seyyid Muhammad's Marja'ya started around 1991, and ended in 1999 with his martyrdom.

You don't need to be someone's teacher to attest to someone's Ijtihad. Mujtahids can read each others researches and books, and decide from that.

is that enough to be considered ijaza?

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