Advanced Member yashia Posted December 29, 2013 Advanced Member Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Assalamu Aleykum,If everyone could pitch in on this post I would be very grateful I would just like to know the differemt opinions of our ulema on male and female friendships.Jazakallah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post :Sami II Posted December 29, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (salam) all :Marajas unanimously agree that friendship between male and female is permissible provided they are husband and wife. ws Abu Izrael, Gotham, Rohani and 32 others 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Abu Tufayl Posted December 30, 2013 Veteran Member Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (bismillah) (salam) all :Marajas unanimously agree that friendship between male and female is permissible provided they are husband and wife. ws Post of the year. في أمان الله aliasghark, PenOfTruth, Hasan0404 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member kbsquare Posted December 30, 2013 Advanced Member Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (salam) all :Marajas unanimously agree that friendship between male and female is permissible provided they are husband and wife. ws lol, I think a lot more is permissible then just 'friendship' but I get your point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted December 30, 2013 Veteran Member Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Assalamu Aleykum,If everyone could pitch in on this post I would be very grateful I would just like to know the differemt opinions of our ulema on male and female friendships.Jazakallah Is this another one of these posts where you are looking for justification to do something that you intrinsically know is wrong in Islam. Seems to me you already have a number of female friends and are now looking for Marje to push the blame on. Malangs do a similar thing. You see so many posts asking 'can you tell me which Marje allows Zanjeer Zani (indopak style) or Tatbir'. aliasghark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliasghark Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 LOL well said Sami and Sunni! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member yashia Posted January 14, 2014 Author Advanced Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well apparently Sayed Fudlullah says a friendship between male and female is permissible providing there's no haram involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted January 14, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) "Friend" is a very flexible word. I have both male and female friends with whom I enjoy conversation, offer help and support where appropriate, may even meet for lunch or coffee in public places. If your cold and rigid "Religion" doesn't allow this you can keep it; I'll stick to my religion of peace.But my closest and dearest confidantes, the ones who my heart and home are always open to, are my family and my girl friends. Edited January 14, 2014 by notme Marbles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Marbles Posted January 14, 2014 Veteran Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well apparently Sayed Fudlullah says a friendship between male and female is permissible providing there's no haram involved. I thought it was common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mahdi_theguideforall Posted January 14, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 So if friendship is allowed, that means talking to them vain talks like how was your day or talking to them on the phone for useless stuff..thats allowed????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Shian e Ali Posted January 14, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (Salam)This is what confuses me the most. Some say v aren't even allowed to talk to girls unless necessary. Some say friendship is allowed. Can you guys prove your opinion with a justification that it is allowed? Please! I'll b really grateful to u, trust me. -__- yashia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mahdi_theguideforall Posted January 14, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think according to Aga Seestani it is not allowed. But I am not sure..so yeah please clarify. I mean being a uni student its hard to restrain from normal talk not related to studies with the opposite gender. :/ b4s1t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted January 15, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think you need to define the word friend, then follow the example of the Prophet (as) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member mighdad Posted February 3, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 "Friend" is a very flexible word. I have both male and female friends with whom I enjoy conversation, offer help and support where appropriate, may even meet for lunch or coffee in public places. If your cold and rigid "Religion" doesn't allow this you can keep it; I'll stick to my religion of peace.But my closest and dearest confidantes, the ones who my heart and home are always open to, are my family and my girl friends.My dear brother. I think it is better to say that your religion is more flexible because it is based on your wishes not Allah's!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted February 4, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 My dear brother. I think it is better to say that your religion is more flexible because it is based on your wishes not Allah's!!!Define the word. Your answer depends on your definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Marbles Posted February 4, 2014 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think you need to define the word friend, then follow the example of the Prophet (as) It is funny because scholars give qualified fatwas (with an "if there is a fear....") and make it contingent upon individual circumstances. It means it is up to the questioner to judge the situation. On the other hand their followers always come up with absolutist, blanket statements. Abu Hadi, b4s1t and Hajji87 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:Sami II Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 It is funny because scholars give qualified fatwas (with an "if there is a fear....") and make it contingent upon individual circumstances. It means it is up to the questioner to judge the situation. On the other hand their followers always come up with absolutist, blanket statements.as a precautionary measure i will avoid replying you in fear of using the P word . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member mighdad Posted February 4, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Define the word.Your answer depends on your definition.If you mean the religion's definition that would be a very great idea.a simple explanation about religion is a pack of beliefs and duties that are considered as words of god given to the people through a holy book(.i.e.quran in our case of discussion) or prophetic narrations.Given the fact that all aspects of life (including relations) are taken into the consideration in religiousteaches it would be the best to refer to revelational sources Now,I would be happy to hear from you if you have any kind of sources that confirms this widespread level of relations between male and female. I believe you would find otherwise if you search fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted February 4, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 No, what I am asking you is what you define as a friend. There are certain words that mean different things to people, even when speaking the same language, and "friend" is one of those words. Hajji87, Marbles and yashia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member mighdad Posted February 5, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 No, what I am asking you is what you define as a friend. There are certain words that mean different things to people, even when speaking the same language, and "friend" is one of those words.The flexibility of friendship is acceptable however it is not helpful in our case. You ought to seek for the level of relation which is confirmed by Islamic practices,no matter at which level of friendship it is ranked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Shian e Ali Posted February 12, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (Salam)If Qur'aan orders men to Lower their gaze if they see a woman, How can u expect men to befriend them when they aren't even allowed to look? So, now please don't bring up the Hijab. Hijab doesn't mean since u aren't seeing the woman, u can befriend her. Friendship between opposite gender is not allowed! If you'r still into the desire of befriending them. Go ahead, forget the Islamic teachings & follow your own rules which u made to fool yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member followers Posted February 12, 2014 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) salam every bodyTo destroy a religion there are two internal and external methods. The internal ways are practices unintentionally by the ignorant followers of that religion who don’t know their religion well. One of those ways of destroying a religion from inner side is to impose the followers’ desire and thought on the religion and then interpret it as they like. Obviously I can mention that Christians imposed their tendencies on their religion, believed in three gods and then became polytheists to the One God while Jesus (as) was a monotheist.The sin of interpreting a religion according to its followers’ desire is much more that the sin of committing harām in that religion.When we do harām, we know what religion says in that regard and we know that we do wrong but when we change the religion as our desire, there will be no wrong and right and religion is what we do and then it will be distorted.Just imagine that an unbeliever wants to study the religion. He comes to one the followers and gets an interpretation of the religion. Then he goes to another and faces another standpoint and so on… now what he will conclude from that school of thought? Will he believe in that?On the other hand, the religion which is changed and interpreted by followers’ desire, will face a status of multiplicity of thought and lose its stability and constancy. So after a while the followers will be fed up with teachings of the religion.Here I respect all my friends and I don’t want to confirm that is interpreting as desire if you claim friendship between male a female is allowed. But I want to mention that the way of our thinking or writing is somehow similar to those who want to understand the religion as their desire… Edited February 12, 2014 by followers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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