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Bold claim lol...she says to use non violence against a Taliban and Islam says to fight the Taliban if he tries to attack you

 

She only wants to educate the illiterate Taliban and bring change through education. Is that such an evil ideal?

 

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Listening to her speak english, Just makes one wonder. The way she speaks doesn't sound like she is even from Swat. Very Interesting. 

 

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She is very well known in Pakistan and Swat. She is definitely from Swat, without a doubt. 

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Bold claim lol...she says to use non violence against a Taliban and Islam says to fight the Taliban if he tries to attack you

 

I'm sorry, but no. Malala is speaking for herself and a teenage girl absolutely has no business trying to fight/incite violence against bearded savages.

Think about it. Would you prefer a Malala who says she wishes to put a bullet through the Talib's head or that she wants to stab him to death because 'he attacked her'? 

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Have you been to Swat to be able to make such a bold claim? There are good English-medium schools everywhere. Her father owned and ran a chain of schools in the area. 

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Yes in fact, I have been to Swat on many occasions. My Mother and Father are from Swat valley. I still have family there. I also couldn't disagree more with what she said about the United States. The poor innocent little child does not realize she is being used and manipulated for propoganda purposes which is very sad. Ruining our countries name and tarnishing our Image in the process. She talks about education which i completely agree with, But she should educate herself on who started what and their policies. iA one day she will read up on the history and then come to realize what the real story and agenda is. 

 

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The poor innocent little child does not realize she is being used and manipulated for propoganda purposes which is very sad.

 

You seemed to be casting doubts on Malala's motives in your previous post. That's not the same as being manipulated. If her message is being manipulated that's not her problem. Her message is solid and one that needs much promotion.

 

 

She talks about education which i completely agree with,

 

That's the only reason anyone who supports her does so. Education. End of story. Sometimes, just sometimes, let's learn to shut out the conspiracy theories. 

No that's not true. If the Taliban wants to put their guns down to fight then you go to education. If they come at with you guns you don't go to them with books.

 

Agreed. But you don't have to teach kids that they need to sort problems, that are not their to take care of, out with AK-47s either. 

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 She talks about education which i completely agree with, But she should educate herself on who started what and their policies. iA one day she will read up on the history and then come to realize what the real story and agenda is. 

Why is who started what and their policies relevant when it comes to the encouragement of children's education?

 

Regardless of all the conspiracy theories and the 'secret' agendas, until there is substantiated proof or in this case any proof at all, could we not focus on the positive that this girl is doing. 

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(bismillah) 

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You seemed to be casting doubts on Malala's motives in your previous post. That's not the same as being manipulated. If her message is being manipulated that's not her problem. Her message is solid and one that needs much promotion.

 

Yes her message is a solid one. But using education as a guise to justify US and the western countries actions and presence is something that I cannot support. Yes she is being manipulated but the true overall motive she is basically promoting is just that. To justify the actions of certain countries and promote them as humanitarians and liberators when they are not. 

 

 

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Why is who started what and their policies relevant when it comes to the encouragement of children's education?

 

 I agree we should encourage child education and there is many ways to do that. But going on television and praising the oppressors every time while talking encouraging children education is contradictory.

 

   

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May be you guys should follow malala's case from the very beginning to know what happened and how she got very famous.

 

Let me made myself clear,i strongly support children education and education for every single human being.I am against taliban from the core of my heart.

But keep in mind,dont let someone fool you in the name of religion or education or anything.Do you think UN and America really care for education?
 

she made a very strong message in UN which is good.But its not that simple.i am getting a hint about what she will do in future.

Pakistan is very strange country.

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If her message is only that women should get an education, then I agree with that. At the same time, like others have said, we have seen this movie before. She will most likely be used as a vehicle to bring pro U.S. propaganda into Pakistan and she is too young to realize what is the real agenda of those around her. She will most likely not realize it until after she has already been used as a propaganda tool to promote things other than women's education. 

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Why have we become so skeptical that we aren't prepared to even give her benefit of the doubt? She is steadfast in her message uptil now and I hope she remains so in the future as well. Just imagine if even a few children get educated because of her efforts, would it be such a bad thing? 

 

We should reminisce about our contribution to the society rather than doubting intentions of people who are making a difference.

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(bismillah) (salam) I agree we should encourage child education and there is many ways to do that. But going on television and praising the oppressors every time while talking encouraging children education is contradictory.    (wasalam)

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By oppressors are you referring to the taliban or the US?

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Malala on shias.

look how she compared shias with sunnis.what impression will these lines have on the reader who do not know about shias.


Freedom of speech?
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i request every one to gather every information available on malala and analyze it critically with wisdom.i hope you will be able to see the picture.

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Thank God we don't have one of those psychos who think Malala and her father are CIA agents because they were pictured with Richard Holbrooke.

 

But okay, let's address the elephant in the room. How exactly is the US allegedly using her to promote its interests? I'm all ears. 

 

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To quote an earlier poster...

 

"could we not focus on the positive"

 

I second that emotion.

 

I always marvel at her maturity and integrity every time I hear her speak, and I can not understand what anyone finds objectionable in anything that she says.

 

"the best way to fight is education..."
"dialogue is the best way"
"education is about so much more... it is about communication,
history, how to live with others, how to accept one another, justice, respect, how to live together..."

 

Salaam.

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Can someone who watched the interview summarize it please?

 

I am hesitant to watch it. I like Jon Stewart when he is destroying American politicians and media, but for the same reason that he is so skilled at doing that, he is incredibly ill-equipped to talk about international affairs. He is not very knowledgeable about the world IMO, and his stances on the likes of Iran, Syria, North Korea, and the like, are really no different from that of the typical elite liberals, with their ignorant contempt for other cultures.

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Greetings baradar,

 

I think I just did.  Why are you hesitant to watch?  It is only Malala speaking.

 

Salaam,

CLynn

 

Well, thanks for that, but I am looking for something more robust. Those are just slogans.

 

What did Stewart ask? How did Malala respond to the questions? Was the issue of drone attacks raised, and if so, what did Malala say about them? Was there any criticism of US policy in South Asia at all?

 

In other words, I want to get an idea for Malala's level of political consciousness.

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Well, thanks for that, but I am looking for something more robust. Those are just slogans.

 

What did Stewart ask? How did Malala respond to the questions? Was the issue of drone attacks raised, and if so, what did Malala say about them? Was there any criticism of US policy in South Asia at all?

 

In other words, I want to get an idea for Malala's level of political consciousness.

 

She's quite politically aware.  Obviously she is a brave little girl like countless others in that part of the world.  In most of her interviews she mostly focused on education and the Talibanization of the region.  Although she did apparently press Obama on the drone issue, it would have been nice if she held the US accountable on such mainstream shows.  It is not a criticism of her, by all accounts, shes a remarkable young girl.

 

As far as the media/elite manipulation etc, that's just textbook, it was bound to happen.

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She's quite politically aware.  Obviously she is a brave little girl like countless others in that part of the world.  In most of her interviews she mostly focused on education and the Talibanization of the region.  Although she did apparently press Obama on the drone issue, it would have been nice if she held the US accountable on such mainstream shows.  It is not a criticism of her, by all accounts, shes a remarkable young girl.

 

As far as the media/elite manipulation etc, that's just textbook, it was bound to happen.

 

Will she withstand it?

 

Take Shirin Ebadi, for example. She started as your typical "freedom democracy blah blah" cheerleader. Now, she is actively supporting sanctions against Iran, and even supports the banning of Iranian satellite channels in Europe and USA. (Sidenote: what a tool...) I am not suggesting that Malala and Ebadi are analogous. Ebadi's intentions were never right, IMO. But it is clear that there is a difference between current Ebadi and past Ebadi. The glitz and glamour certainly had an impact.

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Will she withstand it?

 

Take Shirin Ebadi, for example. She started as your typical "freedom democracy blah blah" cheerleader. Now, she is actively supporting sanctions against Iran, and even supports the banning of Iranian satellite channels in Europe and USA. (Sidenote: what a tool...) I am not suggesting that Malala and Ebadi are analogous. Ebadi's intentions were never right, IMO. But it is clear that there is a difference between current Ebadi and past Ebadi. The glitz and glamour certainly had an impact.

 

It's impossible to tell.  At the end of the day, it's quite safe to assume that had she openly and rightly challenged US policies in Afghanistan/Pakistan, she probably would not be invited back on mainstream US shows next time around.  Typically dissidents from one country are given airtime by media organizations in rival countries, mostly for political/propaganda purposes, and so long as they don't start pointing fingers towards them. Case in point is a left intellectual from the US who was often invited on Canadian news shows to speak on US atrocities, as soon as he barely turned critical towards one of the revered criminal PMs of Canada, he wasn't invited again, no fuss.  Whether these dissidents hold true to their principles and whether their criticisms are valid is another question, dissidents can be political opportunists/greedy scumbags too.

 

It was a tremendous opportunity for Malala though, especially being a child everyone was in love with, it would have embarrassed the US media/administration and people to no end, perhaps encouraged a useful public debate on US policy, and I doubt the retaliatory mainstream onslaught in response could have been very harsh in those circumstances given aroused public sympathy.  I don't know the details, perhaps she was advised not to be too critical towards the people who have invited her to speak.  I know for certain that any sane suffering child in west Pakistan is generally very aware of US aggression and almost always holds the US and to a certain extent Pakistani ISI responsible for the radicalized mess.  It is the most natural instinctive response, she is far too intelligent and aware not to do the same.  On the surface, it seems like she wanted to save the US public some embarrassment and attempt to directly press this point to Obama in person instead.  This is obviously a futile exercise although understandable on her part in an unfamiliar setting, there is no point in talking truth to power, they already know whats going on, it never changes anything.  Her message is highly relevant, meaningful and necessary for her part of the world, for the US audience, perhaps it could have been tweaked a little, that's not on her, but rather the less courageous and more protective Pakistani contingent around her.  Whether she will choose to be less politically correct as she grows older is anyone's guess, obviously she will find it increasingly difficult to find a mainstream platform in that case.  She is a very brave individual so as long as she remains principled, she will stay consistent.

 

Most children in such parts of the world are so courageous, ambitious and aware, I wouldn't put anything past them.  Malala has helped inspire a very important debate in Pakistan, and although the Pakistani press has serious shortcomings, they fare far better than the daily circus that is the US mainstream press, and should keep her message relevant for some time.

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