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Cuba Economic Blockade: 52 Years And Running

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This is the longest blockade in history

 

It has caused roughly 54 billion dollars worth of damages to the country

 

It is put up for vote every year in the UN General Assembly. Every country other than the US, Israel, and some island in the south Pacific votes against the end of this blockade.

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It is put up for vote every year in the UN General Assembly. Every country other than the US, Israel, and some island in the south Pacific votes against the end of this blockade.

Then why are you complaining that it still exists?  It appears that the vast majority of countries want it if they vote against ending it.

Edited by Mu3lam

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Then why are you complaining that it still exists? It appears that the vast majority of countries want it if they vote against ending it.

Either you are making a joke about my obvious mistype, or you are failing to use your brain and thus realized my obvious mistype.

Why would the US and Israel be the only supporters of a removal of the blockade? They are the most staunch enemies of Cuba

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and yet it has one of the best and most efficient education system in the world.

 

Nor has it abandoned the principle of social justice, which is very seductive nowadays... the structure of the world today lends to the political systems having the most stability if they foster the growth, stability, and welfare of its middle class and no one else.

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a small island nation with few if any resources, just 90 miles from the United States stood up to empire for 52 years running... true the Soviet Union helped out in the earlier years ... but since the collapse of the USSR - Cuba has been on its own - building strong relations with like minded nations and keep on going strong... a nation that some of the people of Iran who want to give up can learn from... 

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(salam) 

 

Cuba: Unemployment-3.6%

           Literacy Rate: 97%

           Life Expectancy: 78 years  :)

 

It is worth mentioning though that not every country which has tried Cubas model has had similar success. It varies by country.

 

(wasalam)  

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Also Cuba produces some of the finest medical doctors in the world - and sends them all over the world to work on humanitarian projects - AND Cuba also provides a large number of full scholarships to "third world" nations' students to study medicine in Cuba's finest universities... see this write up on Cuba's scholarship program for Pakistani medical students: 

 

http://samraji.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/pakistani-medical-students-in-cuba/

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a small island nation with few if any resources, just 90 miles from the United States stood up to empire for 52 years running... true the Soviet Union helped out in the earlier years ... but since the collapse of the USSR - Cuba has been on its own - building strong relations with like minded nations and keep on going strong... a nation that some of the people of Iran who want to give up can learn from... 

 

Precisely...

 

Cuba is much poorer than Iran but has managed to create a society which is more or less, equitable.

 

Iran with its resources and its industrial/agricultural capacity... if there was not a very strong, very outspoken, very illogical and/or self-interested minority which kept pushing for nonsensical economic reforms (which have come at the expense of everyone), Iran's economic performance during this current oil/financial blockade would have been far better. Truly unfortunate. I pray that impure elements have not taken full hold of the wheel and are planning a big betrayal.

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Those elements have taken hold of the wheel ... but not a full hold just as yet... if they do get a full hold, they will betray Islam and Iran. There is still hope yet, that there can be strong enough mobilization to push them back if they try to take things too far. 

 

Those who would betray Cuba almost always ended up in Miami ... and while there were small bands of groups within Cuba - they were never allowed to take hold of any part of the wheel - there is never any point in risking the people. But in this regard the case of Iran is similar and different... the most virulent elements went off to Los Angeles, but others remained - or, became allied with a class in Iran that does not have the ideals of the Islamic Revolution as their bearings... 

Edited by skylight2

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That can't possibly be true, its the other way around, this vote is typically even more lopsided than the Israeli/Palestinian vote.

 

Its the most vicious kind of economic warfare with Cuba still turning out to be a billion times more democratic/egalitarian than the US.  Can't totally pin point why Iran hasn't been able to achieve such feats, but it could be because Cubans/Venezuelans etc take socialism, social programs and the rather left economic policies to facilitate them very seriously.  Although Cuba is more centrally planned, they are encouraging more cooperative/worker manager enterprises to develop, rather than giving it all away to private capital which means they are serious about democracy. They do not seem as bogged down by religious rhetoric or other kinds of confusion as pertaining to economic planning and reform.  Their state espoused values and policy is usually in line with social values and general public sentiment.  Ordinary people all over Latin America feel very strongly about these things, hence the natural atmosphere of solidarity among them.

Edited by Mutah_King

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Iran has accomplished a great deal, however, there are sections of Iranian "intellectuals" including supposedly "religious" people who are still very much colonized, and look to the capitalist/hegemonic western powers for their economic models (just look at Rohani's cabinet that is filled with western-capitalist "educated" individuals -as is Rohani himself). Also while Cuba had a vicious regime, and capitalist structure, the populace at large were never so deeply colonized to view the northern powers as their saviors. Iran, on the other hand, went through decades (centuries, perhaps) of colonization of the mind. This had to be gradually undone, before even the Islamic Revolution could begin the process of ridding the Shah. But while political models were given a tremendous amount of thought as part and parcel of the Islamic Revolution, economic models were not - as such Iran remained stuck with western capitalist notions of what makes an economy tick (i.e. exploitation, and market based economy). The actual study and creating an Islamic theory of economy was done by only one Islamic scholar, Shaheed Allama Baqir As-Sadr, of Iraq, that's about it... the rest of what are called "Islamic models" are largely attempts by westernized economists trying to prove that Islam is just like them... i.e. market based/capitalist etc. 

 

Now, again, given where Iran was, and where its population was, it has accomplished a great deal... not as much as Cuba, or Venezuela, Bolivia and other South American nations in a relatively brief period of time... but nevertheless it has accomplished substantial improvements for its population, in education, health care etc. However, Iran has yet to institutionalize the gains of Islamic Revolution, and as a result we see the neo-liberal forces who have taken hold of the Presidency, who will be hugely detrimental to Iran, if they are not pushed back. 

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I'm sure the world "leaders" are terrified of everyone else seeing that their system could work quite well should the sanctions be lifted......assuming they would hold on to their system and not cave in to the powers that be like everyone else seems to do.

Edited by ImAli

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The news coverage in America generally depicts Cuba as a backwards country, still living with 1950's, its population largely underfed, and basically living an all-around miserable existence. 

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The news coverage in America generally depicts Cuba as a backwards country, still living with 1950's, its population largely underfed, and basically living an all-around miserable existence. 

 

Since I am not sure if you were joking or serious, I will respond to these points.

 

If your definition of backwards is "lack of iphones," then yes, Cuba is backward. If your definition of backward is destitute or undeveloped, then no. All public health, education, and welfare indicators suggest a high standard of living with the country.

 

If you definition of "living in the 1950s" is "driving 1950s-era cars," then yes, Cuba is living in the 1950s. However, I find Cuba's continued maintenance of antiquated cards a feat, much like the IRI Air Force's continued use of 40 and 50 year old air frames imported from the US pre-revolution.

 

If your definition of "underfed," is "eating well above the required daily calorie intake," then yes, Cubans are underfed. But it would have made no sense for you to have such a definition of underfed (lolz). Cubans on average take in 3,300 calories of energy. That is well above the minimum requirement for human beings. For the sake of comparison, it is also higher than the per capita daily intake in: Russia, Spain, Mexico, and Australia, among others, none of which have widespread malnutrition problems.

 

So, if you are going to reach a conclusion that Cubans or any other people are living a miserable existence, I suggest you look to a more reliable source than the news coverage in America.

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