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There is that famous hadeeth that has put a scare into all of us upon reading it. However after coming to terms with it and seeing what is really addressed here, it brings up another question and possibly answer. 

The Gog and Magog

Firstly the hadeeth:

 

Volume 6, Book 60, Number 265: Bukhari 

 

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

The Prophet said, "On the day of Resurrection Allah will say, 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik our Lord, and Sa'daik ' Then there will be a loud call (saying), Allah orders you to take from among your offspring a mission for the (Hell) Fire.' Adam will say, 'O Lord! Who are the mission for the (Hell) Fire?' Allah will say, 'Out of each thousand, take out 999.' At that time every pregnant female shall drop her load (have a miscarriage) and a child will have grey hair. And you shall see mankind as in a drunken state, yet not drunk, but severe will be the torment of Allah." (22.2) (When the Prophet mentioned this), the people were so distressed (and afraid) that their faces got changed (in color) whereupon the Prophet said, "From Gog and Magog nine-hundred ninety-nine will be taken out and one from you. You Muslims (compared to the large number of other people) will be like a black hair on the side of a white ox, or a white hair on the side of a black ox, and I hope that you will be one-fourth of the people of Paradise." On that, we said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "I hope that you will be) one-third of the people of Paradise." We again said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "(I hope that you will be) one-half of the people of Paradise." So we said, Allahu Akbar."

My point and wonderment is that who can possibly it be? I dont want to say what i am thinking because i have no proof for it, nor do i want to cause people to look at them distastefully and with evil in their eye.

But what is evident is that "they are the children of Adam" meaning they are our fellow humans, and they are quiet a large majority in our current numbers , they are the least of believers and have the furthest from truth beliefs, they are the furthest from Islam in their beliefs and are not even monotheistic. They are prohibited to us from the Quran for marriage, even temporary marriage(i.e Mutah) as you know in the Ahlul Kitab it is only Jews, Christians and the other discussed ones, but a certain people are not mentioned anywhere else, except that they could fall under this category.

So could it be who i am thinking? 


 

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Until when gog and magog are let loose, and they come down running from every high place (Al-Ambiya 21:96) [land of china and russia is geograpically high] Narrated Abu Huraira; Apostle of Allah said,"the hour will not be established until you fight with the jews, and the stone behind which a jew will be hiding will say,"O Muslim ! There is a jew behind me, so kill him.'BUKHARI'[177] (The period of sufyani and dajjal). Narrated Amr bin Taglib; The Prophet said;"one of the potents of the hour is that you will fight with people wearing shoes made of hair, and one of the potents of the hour is that you will fight with broad-faced people whose faces will look like shields coated with leather.'BUKHARI'[178] (The period of gog and magog, and as per hadith gog and magog can be russia and china) Allah knows best.

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Until when gog and magog are let loose, and they come down running from every high place (Al-Ambiya 21:96) [land of china and russia is geograpically high] Narrated Abu Huraira; Apostle of Allah said,"the hour will not be established until you fight with the jews, and the stone behind which a jew will be hiding will say,"O Muslim ! There is a jew behind me, so kill him.'BUKHARI'[177] (The period of sufyani and dajjal). Narrated Amr bin Taglib; The Prophet said;"one of the potents of the hour is that you will fight with people wearing shoes made of hair, and one of the potents of the hour is that you will fight with broad-faced people whose faces will look like shields coated with leather.'BUKHARI'[178] (The period of gog and magog, and as per hadith gog and magog can be russia and china) Allah knows best.

Yes but Russians are predominantly christian. I am more inclined to think with the evidence we have today that they are asian, although this could be so wrong i dont want to even think for a moment something which i have no proof off

jumping to conclusion with little evidence is an ignorant persons point of view, and i do not wish to be ignorant 

anyway it doesnt even matter who is gog and magog, we have more important things to worry about 

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If it doent even matters who gog and magog are why you started this topic ! But it matters Isa a.s will decend and kill them InSha'Allah. (So could it be who i'am thinking ?) you asked, what you want to proof Akhi, put some more pressure on you nafs and marifa it has yet demanding more, jazak'Allah

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They might be hybrids from Kaabeel's lineage. My personal understanding is that they're extra terrestrial. There are dozens of ahadith about them. They are not ordinary human beings. People used to think of Ghengis Khan and his people as the Gog. Long ago, Sikander sealed them off with a lead wall. Sikander's adventures are quite extraordinary as they are otherworldly at times, especially when he takes Hz. Khizer along on a long and perilous journey in a place devoid of light in order to look for the fountain of perpetual life and finally meets the angel Israfeel in a tower and finds him ready to blow the trumpet as he awaited the signal. That could be somewhere underground, or who knows.

 

But my point is that one hadith by Bukhari that doesn't conform with all the rest on the subject doesn't mean much. When we look at the children of Adam and the hadith of 1 out of each 1000 going to heaven its not much surprising. I wouldn't be surprised at all if only a handful from Shiachat manages to avoid the fire. 1 sect out of 73 for us, 1 out of 72 for Christians, and from the Shia, 1 out of 13 flavors of us (hopefully, the 13th one is of macisaac's -- comprising of 2 people). 1 in a 1000 still sounds mighty generous.

 

When the Yegog Megog things are set loose, the Imam will take his people to the top of a mountain, to save us. Then, there will be so much pollution after they die out that the Imam will pray for help and God will send a bird which will consume their filth and make the lands habitable again. The creatures will be huge and of different shapes. Some very tall, some big all around, some with ears so big they will use one ear as bedding and the other as a quilt when they go to sleep. They will reproduce on death and give birth to a lot more of them. Perhaps this is why the Imam will take everyone to a mountain top to wait it out. They will be 40 when they appear but they will multiply to great numbers. Then they will "throw arrows at the sky and when these will return bloodied they will be proud and say that they have dominated people in the sky as well". This will be the point when their downfall begins, somehow, may be the "people in the sky" will have vengeance, or who knows.

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They might be hybrids from Kaabeel's lineage. My personal understanding is that they're extra terrestrial. There are dozens of ahadith about them. They are not ordinary human beings. People used to think of Ghengis Khan and his people as the Gog. Long ago, Sikander sealed them off with a lead wall. Sikander's adventures are quite extraordinary as they are otherworldly at times, especially when he takes Hz. Khizer along on a long and perilous journey in a place devoid of light in order to look for the fountain of perpetual life and finally meets the angel Israfeel in a tower and finds him ready to blow the trumpet as he awaited the signal. That could be somewhere underground, or who knows.

 

But my point is that one hadith by Bukhari that doesn't conform with all the rest on the subject doesn't mean much. When we look at the children of Adam and the hadith of 1 out of each 1000 going to heaven its not much surprising. I wouldn't be surprised at all if only a handful from Shiachat manages to avoid the fire. 1 sect out of 73 for us, 1 out of 72 for Christians, and from the Shia, 1 out of 13 flavors of us (hopefully, the 13th one is of macisaac's -- comprising of 2 people). 1 in a 1000 still sounds mighty generous.

 

When the Yegog Megog things are set loose, the Imam will take his people to the top of a mountain, to save us. Then, there will be so much pollution after they die out that the Imam will pray for help and God will send a bird which will consume their filth and make the lands habitable again. The creatures will be huge and of different shapes. Some very tall, some big all around, some with ears so big they will use one ear as bedding and the other as a quilt when they go to sleep. They will reproduce on death and give birth to a lot more of them. Perhaps this is why the Imam will take everyone to a mountain top to wait it out. They will be 40 when they appear but they will multiply to great numbers. Then they will "throw arrows at the sky and when these will return bloodied they will be proud and say that they have dominated people in the sky as well". This will be the point when their downfall begins, somehow, may be the "people in the sky" will have vengeance, or who knows.

They are not children of anything else other then Adam(a.s) it is made evident in that hadeeth. 

Children of Adam. Also Adem(a.s) didnt have any other wife with whom he had children, so it cant be any "hybrid aliens"  

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salam ,

             GOD ALMIGHTY WILL SAY TO HAZRAT ESA  A,S. take ur people to a mountain bcoz i gave so power to  gog -megog that no one can defeat them . so its quite clear gog- megog is some extra ordinary habitants. They always travel downwards and cant climb mountain this is not common as humains.rest of Allah swt knows better..  JAZAKALLAH .


They might be hybrids from Kaabeel's lineage. My personal understanding is that they're extra terrestrial. There are dozens of ahadith about them. They are not ordinary human beings. People used to think of Ghengis Khan and his people as the Gog. Long ago, Sikander sealed them off with a lead wall. Sikander's adventures are quite extraordinary as they are otherworldly at times, especially when he takes Hz. Khizer along on a long and perilous journey in a place devoid of light in order to look for the fountain of perpetual life and finally meets the angel Israfeel in a tower and finds him ready to blow the trumpet as he awaited the signal. That could be somewhere underground, or who knows.

 

But my point is that one hadith by Bukhari that doesn't conform with all the rest on the subject doesn't mean much. When we look at the children of Adam and the hadith of 1 out of each 1000 going to heaven its not much surprising. I wouldn't be surprised at all if only a handful from Shiachat manages to avoid the fire. 1 sect out of 73 for us, 1 out of 72 for Christians, and from the Shia, 1 out of 13 flavors of us (hopefully, the 13th one is of macisaac's -- comprising of 2 people). 1 in a 1000 still sounds mighty generous.

 

When the Yegog Megog things are set loose, the Imam will take his people to the top of a mountain, to save us. Then, there will be so much pollution after they die out that the Imam will pray for help and God will send a bird which will consume their filth and make the lands habitable again. The creatures will be huge and of different shapes. Some very tall, some big all around, some with ears so big they will use one ear as bedding and the other as a quilt when they go to sleep. They will reproduce on death and give birth to a lot more of them. Perhaps this is why the Imam will take everyone to a mountain top to wait it out. They will be 40 when they appear but they will multiply to great numbers. Then they will "throw arrows at the sky and when these will return bloodied they will be proud and say that they have dominated people in the sky as well". This will be the point when their downfall begins, somehow, may be the "people in the sky" will have vengeance, or who knows.

salam. 

            i just want to double check  some informatiion u gave  brother u  .(1) sikander:  u mean  sikander e azam or  the dulqurnain person mentioned in holy quran .(2)  Allah swt will order to HAZRAT ESA a.s or HAZRAT IMAM MEHDI a.z.  lead ur people toward up the mountain . please just want some information thanx .JAZAKALLAH

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salam ,

             GOD ALMIGHTY WILL SAY TO HAZRAT ESA  A,S. take ur people to a mountain bcoz i gave so power to  gog -megog that no one can defeat them . so its quite clear gog- megog is some extra ordinary habitants. They always travel downwards and cant climb mountain this is not common as humains.rest of Allah swt knows better..  JAZAKALLAH .

salam. 

            i just want to double check  some informatiion u gave  brother u  .(1) sikander:  u mean  sikander e azam or  the dulqurnain person mentioned in holy quran .(2)  Allah swt will order to HAZRAT ESA a.s or HAZRAT IMAM MEHDI a.z.  lead ur people toward up the mountain . please just want some information thanx .JAZAKALLAH

Sorry, my bad, I meant Hz. Dhulqernain.

Yes the mountain thing is there in hadith as I've mentioned it.

 

Lastly for clarification to br. Yuka, Kaabeel was Adam's son who was married to a djinn woman. Sunni say that both Adam's sons were married to their sisters, ma'azAllah, but that is only another of their wild speculations. Kaabeel was married to a djinn woman and Haabeel (as) to a houri from jannah. And this was a basis of Kaabeel's hatred for God's chosen, his brother Haabeel as mentioned in the Qur'an.

 

It is also strangely surprising that the good bro wants to stick to a hadith from Bukhari, of all sources, but no matter.

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Why are y'all quoting Bukhari and Abu hurirah? jw, i thought you guys were shia?..

 

 

Sorry, my bad, I meant Hz. Dhulqernain.

Yes the mountain thing is there in hadith as I've mentioned it.

 

Lastly for clarification to br. Yuka, Kaabeel was Adam's son who was married to a djinn woman. Sunni say that both Adam's sons were married to their sisters, ma'azAllah, but that is only another of their wild speculations. Kaabeel was married to a djinn woman and Haabeel (as) to a houri from jannah. And this was a basis of Kaabeel's hatred for God's chosen, his brother Haabeel as mentioned in the Qur'an.

 

It is also strangely surprising that the good bro wants to stick to a hadith from Bukhari, of all sources, but no matter.

the amount of ignorance present today in people, and fantasy and imagination is way beyond tolerable levels

in your mind you live in some kind of fantastical dream, but have a look at the reality around you

and the term shia has become so corrupted i dont even know what caused you this, are you people compulsive sinners or what is going on with your minds and souls? too much Hollywood? this life has deceived you greatly may God help us all , and yours nafs i dont know what it has done to you people anymore 

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the amount of ignorance present today in people, and fantasy and imagination is way beyond tolerable levels

in your mind you live in some kind of fantastical dream, but have a look at the reality around you

and the term shia has become so corrupted i dont even know what caused you this, are you people compulsive sinners or what is going on with your minds and souls? too much Hollywood? this life has deceived you greatly may God help us all , and yours nafs i dont know what it has done to you people anymore 

 

Bro sometimes you so "not sound" like an Arif of Allah swt.

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Bro sometimes you so "not sound" like an Arif of Allah swt.

because i am not, all i would call myself is somebody who opposes my nafs and fights to obliterate it, i have tasted freedom and i have become addicted and hooked onto it

i need it and want it and i dont really care for anything else 

 

i just want to be free that is all i want , free from slavery to the self , and free from slavery to the world 

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Some of ur posts br yuka remind me of the fact that shaytaan isn't after the ppl who sin and club and go to casinos and what not. He already got those people. He is after those who try to remain on the right path and he is really clever at times and will catch you off guard. So just be careful esspecially if you've got no teacher. He can make something seem pious in your mind when it is not. Just a warning to be careful.

Anyway I'm sorry for the use of labels.

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the amount of ignorance present today in people, and fantasy and imagination is way beyond tolerable levels

in your mind you live in some kind of fantastical dream, but have a look at the reality around you

and the term shia has become so corrupted i dont even know what caused you this, are you people compulsive sinners or what is going on with your minds and souls? too much Hollywood? this life has deceived you greatly may God help us all , and yours nafs i dont know what it has done to you people anymore 

 

^ I think you need to check with scholars. I'm not making anything up, just quoting what I've read on the subject. You're the one getting carried away baselessly to your fantasy land, calling atheists yajuj majuj, probably for scare mongering, what else. As for that Bukhari hadith that contradicts most of our hadith on the subject, please put it where the sun doesn't shine.

 

Thank you.

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I have an interesting theory ( thats the most i can call it) thats seems more realistic than all. I will post it soon but just wanted to say to yukapuka, for someone whose fighting his nafs day and night, you seem to be on the wrong footing. Slander is not a minor sin, and wont get you far; it doesnt cost much to be polite, so perhaps that would be a good starting point?

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bismilah

 

salam

 

Brother Nemesis posted this one a while ago:

 

http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/khazars.html

 

fi aman ilah 

 

اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ وسَهِّلْ مَخْرَجَهُمْ والعَنْ أعْدَاءَهُم الأوّلينَ وَالآخِريْن إِلَى قِيَامِ يَوْمِ الدِّينْ

 

(wasalam)

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