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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCVU24GX3J4&feature=youtu.be

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah on Quds Day: 'We the Shia of Ali will Never Abandon Palestine!'

(English Subtitles)

This video is a subtitled excerpt from a speech delivered on 02/08/2013.

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And what will happen if Palestine and Israel reach a 2 state agreement?

 

What will Nasrallah say then?

He will say we shia will never abandon Palestine. And as for your 2 state solution keep dreaming even some Palestinians like Islamic jihad will never abandon Palestine.  

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Very emotional, out of order, and very unfortunate.....chanting and tearing yourself apart for those who called you Nasrulat and your group as Hizbul Shaitan, not long ago... I mean only a few weeks ago even Qassam Brigade English-website published these phrases directed to Hizbullah. And they actively supported and gave Palestinian citizenship to Takfiri cleric, Qaradhawi who declared Jihad against entire Shia community of Syria..asked for violence in Iraq.. And many of them supported the rape of Shia/Alawite women and even the massacre of Shia children.

 

As a Shia I don't kill myself for 'People of Palestine'... the same Palestine-People who call me Shaitan, call me worse than the Jews, and conspire alongside Zionists, Wahabi monarchs, atheist Turkey, and what not against regional people on the basis of their sectarian hatred.

 

Good luck to those who want to throw themselves under the Israeli tanks for the sake of Palestine, in case they make it alive on the other side,  they need to make sure they are not beheaded by Palestinian Takfiris for being Shia.

 

Down with the entire Takfiri sons of Khawarij from Iraq to Palestine, from Syria to the walls of China!

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Very emotional, out of order, and very unfortunate.....chanting and tearing yourself apart for those who called you Nasrulat and your group as Hizbul Shaitan, not long ago... I mean only a few weeks ago even Qassam Brigade English-website published these phrases directed to Hizbullah. And they actively supported and gave Palestinian citizenship to Takfiri cleric, Qaradhawi who declared Jihad against entire Shia community of Syria..asked for violence in Iraq.. And many of them supported the rape of Shia/Alawite women and even the massacre of Shia children.

 

As a Shia I don't kill myself for 'People of Palestine'... the same Palestine-People who call me Shaitan, call me worse than the Jews, and conspire alongside Zionists, Wahabi monarchs, atheist Turkey, and what nyot against regional people on the basis of their sectarian hatred.

 

Good luck to those who want to throw themselves under the Israeli tanks for the sake of Palestine, in case they make it alive on the other side,  they need to make sure they are not beheaded by Palestinian Takfiris for being Shia.

 

Down with the entire Takfiri sons of Khawarij from Iraq to Palestine, from Syria to the walls of China!

Don't worry, no one in the Hizb will die in Palestine. They are too busy fighting in Syria.

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He will say we shia will never abandon Palestine. And as for your 2 state solution keep dreaming even some Palestinians like Islamic jihad will never abandon Palestine.  

 

I stated "if". And the President elected by the Palestinians is speaking about it. 

 

Why people talk so much about 2 state solution. Why people don't talk about ONE STATE solution.

 

It's not about people, it's about Palestinians - they are speaking about this. 

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ههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه

 

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I know even Khalid Ibn Walid is laughing at us nowadays LOOOL

 

:o

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I stated "if". And the President elected by the Palestinians is speaking about it. 

 

 

It's not about people, it's about Palestinians - they are speaking about this.

You mean elected by some palastanians. Hamas and fatah dont get along and hamas were elected by the people too and they don't believe in a 2 state solution. And its not about the palastanians its about al quds and the oppressed they just happen to be palastanians.
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Sayyid Hassan (ha) clearly stated in his speech, from the excerpts i have seen, that whoever thinks Israel is only a Palestinian problem is deluded and asleep. 

 

Palestinians have unfortunately found themselves in the front line of this conflict. Their leadership is composed of mostly disgusting, backstabbing thieves, as we have recently seen and heard, so much so that there is no doubt left in any sane persons mind that they are criminals. But as long as these ungrateful's are standing in the front line and acknowledging Israel as an enemy, and are willing to fight against it, then it is in the interest of every sane, rational, unbiased, freedom loving human being to provide them support.  The day they are completely and thoroughly defeated and neutralised, is the day Israel will expand its terror and brutality to the 'next' in line.

 

Supporting Palestinians in their struggle against Israel is in reality supporting your own freedom and independence in your own country. Keep Israel busy at its borders so that it cant even think about the other borders it wants.

 

Abandon the Palestinians out of sectarian hatred, and you open the doors for Israel to occupy your land and force you to live in abject humiliation. All this because you hate the Wahabis more then you love honour and personal freedom.

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As I've been saying all along ... there are people on this board are highly and extremely deluded  - but more than that they are just plain silly little 2 year old boys who think world politics, Islam and the role of Muslims and especially Shi'a role on this planet is some kind of a toy they can ping pong around... 

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...... LOOOL

 

:o

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Now that's below the belt. An unnecessary sectarian response.

 

What was funny is that I mentioned Noah and only 3 minutes later...hey presto!

In fact while I was posting he must have been composing his message.

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- but more than that they are just plain silly little 2 year old boys who think world politics, Islam and the role of Muslims and especially Shi'a role on this planet is some kind of a toy they can ping pong around... 

 

You repeated the same childish 'phrase' more than 100 times on this forum... be specific and discuss the 'heart' of the matter on this so called board. Stop discussing 'people' on this silly or whatever so called board. You may provide reason and logical argument, or state facts & reference to your argument. Do not bring yourself down to the level of a few Takfiris or folks like Ugly Jinn, who non-stop repeats the same garbage without listening to others or without looking at other users points.

 

X doesn't know anything because he is a 2 year old child..

Y is plain silly who is not aware of the world of politics (BECAUSE TODAY HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME)...

Z is only seeing things as Shia-Sunni and not aware beyond that....

That guy doesn't know a secret, and that secret is that Palestine is too important for us (but since it is a secret, I can't explain it, and those silly Shias who are 2 yrs old cannot understand and must learn some politics first).

 

Are we even serious!!!!

 

We are talking too BIG, but not realizing that the so called world of Shia is being used as a toy (during Khatami LA for easying life for western forces and getting only punishments in return), and then a like a toy by the Ikhwanis/Salafi dogs who used Shias like a toy and then ping pong around to calculate their so called interests in selling themselves in Syria and issueing fatwas on Bahrain & Iraq... But, we do not have that courage to defend our rights, and instead we want to act like the big-boss around.. while 100s of people are bombed and killed on daily basis in Iraq/Pak and the entire Shia nation of Bahrain is imprisoned for more than 60 yrs.

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You repeated the same childish 'phrase' more than 100 times on this forum... be specific and discuss the 'heart' of the matter on this so called board. Stop discussing 'people' on this silly or whatever so called board. You may provide reason and logical argument, or state facts & reference to your argument. Do not bring yourself down to the level of a few Takfiris or folks like Ugly Jinn, who non-stop repeats the same garbage without listening to others or without looking at other users points.

 

X doesn't know anything because he is a 2 year old child..

Y is plain silly who is not aware of the world of politics (BECAUSE TODAY HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME)...

Z is only seeing things as Shia-Sunni and not aware beyond that....

That guy doesn't know a secret, and that secret is that Palestine is too important for us (but since it is a secret, I can't explain it, and those silly Shias who are 2 yrs old cannot understand and must learn some politics first).

 

Are we even serious!!!!

 

We are talking too BIG, but not realizing that the so called world of Shia is being used as a toy (during Khatami LA for easying life for western forces and getting only punishments in return), and then a like a toy by the Ikhwanis/Salafi dogs who used Shias like a toy and then ping pong around to calculate their so called interests in selling themselves in Syria and issueing fatwas on Bahrain & Iraq... But, we do not have that courage to defend our rights, and instead we want to act like the big-boss around.. while 100s of people are bombed and killed on daily basis in Iraq/Pak and the entire Shia nation of Bahrain is imprisoned for more than 60 yrs.

Bro, what are you suggesting then?

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Bro, what are you suggesting then?

 

'suggesting' regarding not to insult other users or you mean 'suggesting' regarding the Palestinian issues? We had many topics in this regard...and hundreds of posts where many suggest that we as Shias should not take our own children to face death, sacrifice our own interests for Palestinians' cause, have only and only one aim to please Palestinians and a few so called Sunni-brothers, while on the other hand the same Palestinian people turn to us and say that 'we (Shias) are worse and more dangerous than the Jews (Israel)' and that 'we Rafidhis are Halal to be killed'....and they support every possible criminal against Shias publicly like Zarqawi, Saddam, FSA, Al-Nusra... And 100s of other reasons, which will be boring to bring them here every day... And all this happening while millions of Shias are oppressed more than Palestinians and thousands of Shia cities need help and face discriminaton more than what Palestinians face in Israel...

Now that's below the belt. An unnecessary sectarian response.

 

No problemo!!!! we are still friends ;- )

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'suggesting' regarding not to insult other users or you mean 'suggesting' regarding the Palestinian issues? We had many topics in this regard...and hundreds of posts where many suggest that we as Shias should not take our own children to face death, sacrifice our own interests for Palestinians' cause, have only and only one aim to please Palestinians and a few so called Sunni-brothers, while on the other hand the same Palestinian people turn to us and say that 'we (Shias) are worse and more dangerous than the Jews (Israel)' and that 'we Rafidhis are Halal to be killed'....and they support every possible criminal against Shias publicly like Zarqawi, Saddam, FSA, Al-Nusra... And 100s of other reasons, which will be boring to bring them here every day... And all this happening while millions of Shias are oppressed more than Palestinians and thousands of Shia cities need help and face discriminaton more than what Palestinians face in Israel...

 

Brother if you seriously think that leaving the Palestinian cause because you are Shi'a, then you are gravely mistaken. One of the great things about these protests is because of the unity it brings with the Shi'a and Sunni community of every nation. Palestine is a common goal for all Muslims, have different religious beliefs or political beliefs cannot change that. In the protest in Syria, a child was holding the Fake Syria Flag with the colours of black + white and green, this shows that even though the child or his family support a government change in Syria, Palestine will always be remembered in every Muslims heart. Muslims can never forget the place where Rasul Allah  (pbuh) first commanded us to pray towards - al-Aqsa Masjid. The birthplace of so many Prophets of Islam.

 

I remember our Shi'a-Sunni unity argument from last time where I said unity with the Sunni will benefit us in the long term, but I didn't explain, now I'll explain. What does unity with Sunni Islam mean? Why do we want unity with Sunni Islam when many of them hate the Shi'a to the bone and accuse them of heresy? We want unity with Sunni Islam because it will move Islam as a whole - forward, both Shi'a and Sunni Islam. Just think about it, the Sunni and Shi'a of every country unite and settle their differences and agree that coexistence is the key to success. The governments which actually adhere to the rules of the religion, shall ban all products produced in their country from being shipped to the enemies of Islam - Israel, US, most of Europe, etc. I am sure you know how much oil the Islamic lands have. Just put a hose in the ground and cash will start coming out of it in the Shi'a areas of Saudi Arabia. Just imagine that all the governments of the Islamic world join hands and watch Islam grow rapidly. The US and its hegemonic allies will stop ruling the world and the Islamic Empire will rule, InshAllah. The bullies of the world can't last 48 hours without the supplies of their current puppets who occupy Islamic lands. If unity is achieved with Sunniism, it will lead to the end of killing of the Shi'a all around the world. Even al-Azhar has declared Shi'a Islam to be legitimate.

 

These are all theories which would most definitely occur if unity is achieved. 

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Ah Noah is looking at himself in the mirror now. You've correctly identified yourself as nothing more than the flip side of those who you so condemn (rightfully) but (wrongfully) you take on their characteristics. You talk down to the true leaders of Muslims and especially the Shi'a Muslims, while you talk like a 1.5 year old on this site, bringing childlike and silly arguments to support positions whose ramifications you don't know anything about. And advocating policies that the people of the region will end up paying for in the years and decades to come. 

 

You repeated the same childish 'phrase' more than 100 times on this forum... be specific and discuss the 'heart' of the matter on this so called board. Stop discussing 'people' on this silly or whatever so called board. You may provide reason and logical argument, or state facts & reference to your argument. Do not bring yourself down to the level of a few Takfiris or folks like Ugly Jinn, who non-stop repeats the same garbage without listening to others or without looking at other users points.

 

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Brother if you seriously think that leaving the Palestinian cause because you are Shi'a, then you are gravely mistaken. One of the great things about these protests is because of the unity it brings with the Shi'a and Sunni community of every nation. Palestine is a common goal for all Muslims, have different religious beliefs or political beliefs cannot change that. In the protest in Syria, a child was holding the Fake Syria Flag with the colours of black + white and green, this shows that even though the child or his family support a government change in Syria, Palestine will always be remembered in every Muslims heart. Muslims can never forget the place where Rasul Allah  (pbuh) first commanded us to pray towards - al-Aqsa Masjid. The birthplace of so many Prophets of Islam.

 

I remember our Shi'a-Sunni unity argument from last time where I said unity with the Sunni will benefit us in the long term, but I didn't explain, now I'll explain. What does unity with Sunni Islam mean? Why do we want unity with Sunni Islam when many of them hate the Shi'a to the bone and accuse them of heresy? We want unity with Sunni Islam because it will move Islam as a whole - forward, both Shi'a and Sunni Islam. Just think about it, the Sunni and Shi'a of every country unite and settle their differences and agree that coexistence is the key to success. The governments which actually adhere to the rules of the religion, shall ban all products produced in their country from being shipped to the enemies of Islam - Israel, US, most of Europe, etc. I am sure you know how much oil the Islamic lands have. Just put a hose in the ground and cash will start coming out of it in the Shi'a areas of Saudi Arabia. Just imagine that all the governments of the Islamic world join hands and watch Islam grow rapidly. The US and its hegemonic allies will stop ruling the world and the Islamic Empire will rule, InshAllah. The bullies of the world can't last 48 hours without the supplies of their current puppets who occupy Islamic lands. If unity is achieved with Sunniism, it will lead to the end of killing of the Shi'a all around the world. Even al-Azhar has declared Shi'a Islam to be legitimate.

 

These are all theories which would most definitely occur if unity is achieved. 

 

Unity (read: tolerance) is great; if you're doing it with people willing to be tolerant with you. Achieving unity by supporting a people who are cognizant anti-Shi`a (meaning they would be considered nawasib and we know where they will end up) is a blind claim that's aiming more for conformity than unity. I'm not saying the Palestinians are an anti-Shi`a people, I'm saying there should not be a blind support and rigorous efforts towards the Palestinian cause; while ignoring the region-wide (world wide) problems of anti-Shi`a beliefs being propagated and ignoring the Shi`a genocide (both physically and beliefs-wise) happening day after day; which arguably is of more importance.

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Brother if you seriously think that leaving the Palestinian cause because you are Shi'a, then you are gravely mistaken.

 

I never said that. If I could I would help Argentine to free their islands from Britz, Africans to fight western Zionists, LA to fight oppression and anyone...... BECAUSE: I am sure the next day they are not going to say that I am more dangerous than their own enemies whom I helped them against. And stand by the common enemy to kill my women and children...and support every possible criminal against me... That only happens in Palestine. And plus yes, if I could help oppressed people I begin with my own home.

 

Palestine is not a common cause anymore for Muslims... Because according to (Sunni-Arabs) and mainly according to Palestinians, we (Shias) are not Muslim, but a bunch of Rafidhis worse than Jews. HOW HARD THIS IS TO EXPLAIN and understand?

Lets have Muslim unity against Israel, but hey you, you are not Muslim but a Kafir!

 

CAN WE FORCE brotherhood uppon Sunnis (Sunni Arabs or the Palestinians)? I believe we can't.

 

Lastly, I am not waiting for what Al-Azhar (who by the way is not only a hypocrite institute who changes possition on Shias every year within the politics of the day, but also is a Zionist puppet)... each time a group 'Mubarak, Mursi, Egyptian army' takes power, Al-Azhar is there to please them and bow to them... Al-azhar is not the basis of truth or falsehood.. And Shia Islam does not need any certificate from these Khawariji school to celebrate its Islam.

Ah Noah is looking at himself in the mirror now. You've correctly identified yourself as nothing more than the flip side of those who you so condemn (rightfully) but (wrongfully) you take on their characteristics. You talk down to the true leaders of Muslims and especially the Shi'a Muslims, while you talk like a 1.5 year old on this site, bringing childlike and silly arguments to support positions whose ramifications you don't know anything about. And advocating policies that the people of the region will end up paying for in the years and decades to come. 

 

And yet one more time you discuss 'users' here not any topic or any issue! And again, you are failed to refute any argument with reason or any logical discussion... BUT, calling them silly, childish, and etc...

 

The 'Taqiya' and self-hating policies that you and likes of you advocate for decades FAILED very badly, and caused Shias nothing but oppression, murder, discrimination, mass-massacres, prisons, living by and under dictatorships/brutality... and isolations from all sides..including from our brothers in Islam. Why no one dies as cheaply as Shias on the streets of Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen and elsewhere? Not even the weakest minorities like Bahahis, Christians, Qadiyanis, Yazeedis, and many more? Have you realized and thought about that? Or your mind is so busy on how to please a few Takfiri Palestinians in order to win over them? Why Shias who are in hundreds of millions across the region face the most discrimination and live in fear than any other minority?

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Unity (read: tolerance) is great; if you're doing it with people willing to be tolerant with you. Achieving unity by supporting a people who are cognizant anti-Shi`a (meaning they would be considered nawasib and we know where they will end up) is a blind claim that's aiming more for conformity than unity. 

 

When I talk about Muslims, I do not speak of the Najis Nawasib. It's true, that many Palestinians are known for their Nasb, but the issue is far greater than what we make it out to be.

 

I never said that. If I could I would help Argentine to free their islands from Britz, Africans to fight western Zionists, LA to fight oppression and anyone...... BECAUSE: I am sure the next day they are not going to say that I am more dangerous than their own enemies whom I helped them against. And stand by the common enemy to kill my women and children...and support every possible criminal against me... That only happens in Palestine. And plus yes, if I could help oppressed people I begin with my own home.

 

Palestine is not a common cause anymore for Muslims... Because according to (Sunni-Arabs) and mainly according to Palestinians, we (Shias) are not Muslim, but a bunch of Rafidhis worse than Jews. HOW HARD THIS IS TO EXPLAIN and understand?

Lets have Muslim unity against Israel, but hey you, you are not Muslim but a Kafir!

 

CAN WE FORCE brotherhood uppon Sunnis (Sunni Arabs or the Palestinians)? I believe we can't.

 

Lastly, I am not waiting for what Al-Azhar (who by the way is not only a hypocrite institute who changes possition on Shias every year within the politics of the day, but also is a Zionist puppet)... each time a group 'Mubarak, Mursi, Egyptian army' takes power, Al-Azhar is there to please them and bow to them... Al-azhar is not the basis of truth or falsehood.. And Shia Islam does not need any certificate from these Khawariji school to celebrate its Islam.

 

Let me ask you one thing before I can advance in my argument - do you consider Sunnis to be

 

a] Misguided Muslims (still acknowledging that they are within the folds of Islam)

b] Kafir/Murtad/Khariji

c] None of the above (try not to pick this choice as you will be unclear in defining your position)

 

Again, when I talk about Sunnis, I am not talking about the Nawasib amongst them.

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Let me ask you one thing before I can advance in my argument - do you consider Sunnis to be

 

a] Misguided Muslims (still acknowledging that they are within the folds of Islam)

b] Kafir/Murtad/Khariji

c] None of the above (try not to pick this choice as you will be unclear in defining your position)

 

Again, when I talk about Sunnis, I am not talking about the Nawasib amongst them.

 

 

That is kind of irrelavant to what we discuss here! The examples of countries I gave in previous reply to clarify that I am not saying we should not chant day and night for Palestine for us being Shia and them--being Sunnis... If I can work it out with atheists and Christians for a right cause, then why not with Sunnis?

 

BUT, the problem is NOT here... the main PROBLEM is that THEY do NOT accept us... SIMPLY because WE are SHIAS. While we want to sacrifice everything because somehow we are in love with their so called cause and freedom. What part of 'no' we don't understand... Anything we say, they reply with a no and that in a harsh way!

 

Who cares if they are Kafir or misguided Muslims? These (especially ignorant Sunni-Arabs) need to become humane first, learn and have some principles before anything else.

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Note: The official websites of Hamas and Qassam brigades that I am refreshing for last 14 hrs haven't mentioned a single word on the so called Quds-Day, or reporting any part of the event taken place in Iran or elsewhere! As usual!

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Well said brother noah. The reality is, nothing really comes out of these marches. Alot of people just go for the sake of it as it makes them feel good & a day out for them. A waste of money which could be spent in a much better way.

I fail to understand why shias come out chanting over palesinians, majority of whom are naasibis anyway. People will come out ranting 'death to America' chants yet fail to speak out against those individuals who were the biggest tyrants against Ahlulbayt (as) for the 'sake of unity' SubhanAllah!

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Oh god, why do you people keep taking this Noah troll seriously?  For the 10th time, this heartless douchebag once said "Palestinians are not oppressed muslims", really, so all those helpless children living under brutal occupation are not oppressed.

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^first change your username, grow up, and behave like a civilized person... then I may or may not reason with you...

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That is kind of irrelavant to what we discuss here! The examples of countries I gave in previous reply to clarify that I am not saying we should not chant day and night for Palestine for us being Shia and them--being Sunnis... If I can work it out with atheists and Christians for a right cause, then why not with Sunnis?

 

BUT, the problem is NOT here... the main PROBLEM is that THEY do NOT accept us... SIMPLY because WE are SHIAS. While we want to sacrifice everything because somehow we are in love with their so called cause and freedom. What part of 'no' we don't understand... Anything we say, they reply with a no and that in a harsh way!

 

Who cares if they are Kafir or misguided Muslims? These (especially ignorant Sunni-Arabs) need to become humane first, learn and have some principles before anything else.

 

Brother, my question was definitely not irrelevant to what we are discussing. I think you know, and you should know, where I am heading to with my questions, which is why I think you are hesitant to answer it. It does not matter whether they accept us or not, the Ahlul Bayt have taught us to be the voice of the oppressed wherever you find them. Even in Myanmar, there were so many Sunni Muslims who were massacred, and most likely not even 1 Shi'a family in 

Myanmar, which again leads to the question - why did Iran choose to send aid to them? Islam teaches us to be human first and then Muslim (or parallel with each other). Amir ul-Mu`mineen also never fought for personal gains, always for Islam as a whole. So please choose one of the choices I gave regarding your opinion on the Sunni.

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Brother, my question was definitely not irrelevant to what we are discussing. I think you know, and you should know, where I am heading to with my questions, which is why I think you are hesitant to answer it. It does not matter whether they accept us or not, the Ahlul Bayt have taught us to be the voice of the oppressed wherever you find them. Even in Myanmar, there were so many Sunni Muslims who were massacred, and most likely not even 1 Shi'a family in 

Myanmar, which again leads to the question - why did Iran choose to send aid to them? Islam teaches us to be human first and then Muslim (or parallel with each other). Amir ul-Mu`mineen also never fought for personal gains, always for Islam as a whole. So please choose one of the choices I gave regarding your opinion on the Sunni.

 

 

Brother, again, the main argument has nothing to do with Shias, Sunnis, Christians or Jews.. and oppressed is an oppressed...You need to read the entire reply, and take the points before responding.

 

And if you insist too much, here I ask you this:

Why don't we (Shias or Iran or whatever) support the Taliban in Afghanistan to fight (NATO) or help the Chechen fighters or never extended our hands to Shia Azerbaijan who fought Armenia (where Armenia ended up occupying Azerbaijan's lands) and the good and blessing relationship of Armenia still stands with Islamic Republic?!!!??? And the Houthi Shias in North Yemen who faced brutality and wars???

 

Ohhh bro I forgot, in some cases we define things differently, and we ignore oppression, occupation, fighting NATO, and etc... for some reasons OR for some political reasons... wink...wink... then lets go back to Palestine..... moral and humanity, and the teaching of Ahlul Bait (as) can wait in those areas... it is only activated in Palestine... because according to our thinking, Ahlul Bait loved to help ONLY the Khwawariji-like people such as those in Palestine. And we do not care for mutual respect or political interests in Palestine... unlike other cases/places I named.

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Salam Noah,

 

Hamas did call people to come out to demonstrate for Quds day. However, this revival of Quds day seems to be in reaction to its loss of support in the Arab world, so it's trying to flirt its way back to Iran's good graces.

 

See the following Arabic report:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arabic/multimedia/2013/08/130802_gaza_alquds_day_iran.shtml

 

If you are interested, I can translate the BBC article to English for you. 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCVU24GX3J4&feature=youtu.be

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah on Quds Day: 'We the Shia of Ali will Never Abandon Palestine!'

(English Subtitles)

This video is a subtitled excerpt from a speech delivered on 02/08/2013.

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Hello,

 

May God help the people in Palestine/Israel to live together in peace and mutual respect. Killing is not the answer. All killing does, regardless of which side, hurts people and makes people want revenge. However, revenge is God's. God is the Judge, not people.

 

Peace and God bless

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Salam Noah,

 

Hamas did call people to come out to demonstrate for Quds day. However, this revival of Quds day seems to be in reaction to its loss of support in the Arab world, so it's trying to flirt its way back to Iran's good graces.

 

See the following Arabic report:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arabic/multimedia/2013/08/130802_gaza_alquds_day_iran.shtml

 

If you are interested, I can translate the BBC article to English for you. 

 

Salam,

 

Since the new developments in the region, Hamas is also trying repeatedly to rebuild its connection with Iran and Hizb... and the most annoying thing is that the group does not shy and publicly says that since they lost Mursi in Egypt and some other backers in Gulf, they want to go back to the old network... in other word if nothing changed in Egypt or Gulf, then we (Palestinians) would still opposed Iran/Hizb.... this indicates clearly that how cheaply they view Iran/Shias/Hizb or even Syria... 'whenever we need them and no one is around to help, we go to them, but if we don't need them, we oppose them and kill them' and again we return in case we need them, and ally with them.... because we are oppressed Palestinians and we can do anything we wish and we want..'

 

btw: stupid Hamas still does not realize that if the Palestinians mark Quds day, the Palestiniansa are not doing Iran a favor or pleasing Iran.... because Quds day is FOR Palestinians, not for liberation of Tehran or Khorasaan from Israeli regime... the most ignorant people that never heard anything like them in the history of humanity!

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Muslims today are unable to point the conspiracy against them , West is following divide and rule policy among Muslims still all Islamic world is unaware except few of them

There are some Nasibi ppl in Palestine but we can't generalize it on all Palestinian

We are followers of Ahlul Bat a.s, Palestinian are Hanbali or shafie still we support them on basis they are Muslims their honour and property should be protected

And those ppl who are against I.R.Iran and Hezbollah are nothing but supporters of Zionist , there opposition to Iran and Hezbollah is favourable to Zionist, All Muslims should be united there are issues among us that should not give others opportunity to attack us

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