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Do Shias Support Dipiction Of Prophets?

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There are several movies made in Iran by shia muslim directors which are based on religious figures. These movies are educational no doubt but these movies depicted the prophets and other religious figures by actors. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) strictly forbids making images of living beings and there were pictures of Abraham and Ishmael in Kabah.Prophet ordered to destroy these images and said that these people don't know how Abraham and Ishmael actually looks like yet they made these images. He was very angry with these images. Aisha (pbuh) narrated hadiiths regarding prohibation of making images of humans. Well since Shias have allergy to the name of Aisha so its obvious they won't give even 1 cent to her words but Hazrat Ali also narrated some hadiths regarding prohibition of making images of human beings. So why do shias make images of Hazrat Ali and other religious figures? Isn't it haram?

 

Well, making images of living beings may be not a grave sin but still a sin. Making images of religious figures are even more sinful but they do it. There are various artists ammong sunni muslims who actually make pictures of living being but they don't make pictures of prophets and other figures whereas Imam Ali himself said don't make pictures of living beings but still many shia Muslims make Imam Ali's picture first. Why?

 

Not only in movies shias make images of Imam Ali and even have such images in their houses and shrines.

 

The most used image is this one- db_db_imam_ali11.jpg

 

 

There are other several images of him used by Shia Muslims. Some even have pictures of Imam Ali at their house. Making images of Prophets and Sahabas is strictly haram still they do it. Why?

 

Why do shias make images of Hazrat Ali (pbuh)? Some even make images of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). 

 

Do shia scholars allow depiction of Prophets and Caliphs? 

 

Btw, there is a film coming out this year which is based on Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Majid Majidi is the director. Even though he is shia he says he hasn't shown the Prophet's face in the film to respect Sunnis.

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Sayyid sistani

Is it permissible to draw or produce a scene which shows the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), one of the past prophets or the infallible Imams (a.s.), or other luminaries and show it in cinema, on television or theatre?

Answer :

If due deference and respect is observed, and the scene does not contain anything that would detract from their holy pictures in the minds [of the viewers], there is no problem.

If you aks me, i really dont like that there are "pictures of the imams" in the mosque.

In iran it its fine to showf the prophets in movie, but not the imams...

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i dont think those are accurate. for example, most pictures of Imam Ali (as) depict him as a light-skinned man, but there are so many people who argue about his skin tone. and skin tone aside, the fact is that you dont know what they look like. maybe youve found a description of them in a book or something, but they dont say much apart from stuff like "the Imam (as) had big eyes" or something. thats not much to go on, is it? you dont know if they had round or square faces, how long their hair was, etc. i dunno why people make these pictures to be honest.

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(salam)

 

You've told about Irani... what do you say about shows by MBC. Do you even know about Omar - the series? If not first check in YouTube... and see your how they've depicted Umar, Abu Bakr, Khalid Bin Walid, Maula Ali (as) ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_(TV_series)

 

dear it is not only about Shia.. people do it for love,respect etc. 

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^Sunnis consider them normal humans - fallibles, hence a non-issue depicting them.

 

Flawed comparison.

 

lols did you read OP post... he is not talking about fallible or infallible. I just made his point wrong. as he said

 

"There are various artists ammong sunni muslims who actually make pictures of living being but they don't make pictures of prophets and other figures "

 

Your point would be correct if he said something about fallible or infallible. 

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^Sunnis consider them normal humans - fallibles, hence a non-issue depicting them.

 

Flawed comparison.

 

so according to you, Sunnis can make depiction of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), four caliphs etc... Is it your point? Because they consider them normal humans. We Shia have never make depiction of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). You don't anything about Sunnis, and you're talking about them. Even you don't call yourself Sunni. 

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Sunnis had plenty of Ottoman art depicting the Prophet (pbuh), including his face. In terms of depiction in Ja`fari fiqh, we have some ahadith that condemn depictions of humans and animals. These narrations say that such pictures should not be allowed in the masajid, while pictures of trees and nature are permissible. Many Shi`i centres just stick to calligraphy.

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you should not pray facing a picture or a mirror, and the room with pictures or dolls or statuses, the angels do not enter.

 

....but people are very attached to these Christianized arts.....

 

depicting imams in movies :

I think Imam Zain Al'abdin depicted how they killed the infant of Abu Abdillah .... people used to depict the events of Karbala as part of Ashura activities long before the TV.

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I personally don't have an opinion either way but..

 

Here's a harsh stance from a Marja Ayatullah Bashir Hussein al-Najafy.

 

In the name of Allah: in regards to the images which are attributed to the holy infallibles (as), I have repeatedly emphasized that drawing and attributing them to the holy infallibles (as) is absolutely forbidden but ignorance prevails in most people and pushes them to continue to act this way. As for the other actions that you have mentioned, it should be known that each region of the world has its own way of expressing their sadness and respect. The Christians, for instance, create a duplicate of the cross for blessings and even their priests wear one around their necks. Does that not cause the Sunni brothers and you to ridicule them since we know that Prophet Isa (Jesus) (as) was not killed or crucified? Furthermore, it is not possible to create scholars, philosophers, and intellectual thinkers out of every individual in society. We pray to Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì to guide us all.

http://www.alnajafy.com/list/mainden-2-491-215.html

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Even thought, nothing in the Quran, strictly bars portrayals of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), but according to the view of some Shia scholars, If due deference and respect is observed, and the scene does not contain anything that would detract from their holy pictures in the minds [of the viewers], there is no problem.

 

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