How Imam Ali (As) Will Divide Paradise & Hell

[muhibb-ali]

 حَدَّثَنا تَمِيمُ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّه بْنِ تَمِيمُ القُرَشِي قالَ حَدَّثَني أَبي، عَن أَحْمَدِ بْنِ عَلِى الأَنْصـارِي عَنْ أَبي الصَّـلْتِ الهَرَوِيِّ قـالَ: قَـالَ الْمَـأْمُونُ يَوْماً لِلرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ: يَا أَبَاالْحَسَنِ أَخْبِرْنِي، عَن جَدِّكَ أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَبِي طَالِبٍ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ بِأَيِّ وَجْهٍ هُوَقَسِيمُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ وَبِأَيِّ مَعْنَى فَقَدْ كَثُرَ فِكْرِي فِي ذَلِكَ فَقَالَ لَهُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَلَمْ تُرْوَعَنْ أَبِيكَ، عَن آبَائِهِ، عَن عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّهُ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ‏ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ يَقُولُ حُبُّ عَلِيٍّ إِيمَانٌ وَبُغْضُهُ كُفْرٌ فَقَالَ بَلَى فَقَالَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَقِسْمَةُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ إِذَا كَانَتْ عَلَى حُبِّهِ وَبُغْضِهِ فَهُوَقَسِيمُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ فَقَالَ الْمَأْمُونِ لا أَبْقَانِيَ اللَّهُ بَعْدَكَ يَا أَبَا الْحَسَنِ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ وَارِثُ عِلْمِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ‏ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ قَالَ أَبُو الصَّلْتِ الْهَرَوِيُّ فَلَمَّا انْصَرَفَ الرِّضَا إِلَى مَنْزِلِهِ أَتَيْتُهُ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ مَا أَحْسَنَ مَا أَجَبْتَ بِهِ أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ فَقَالَ لِي الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ إِنَّمَا كَلَّمْتُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ هُوَوَلَقَدْ سَمِعْتُ أَبِي يُحَدِّثُ، عَن آبَائِهِ، عَن عَلِيٍ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ أَنَّهُ قالَ: قالَ لِي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ‏ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ‏يَا عَلِيُّ أَنْتَ قَسِيمُ الْجَنَّةِ وَالنَّارِ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ تَقُولُ لِلنَّارِ هَذَا لِي وَهَذَا لَكَ

 

 

Tamim ibn Abdullah ibn Tamim al-Qurashi narrated that his father quoted on the authority of Ahmad ibn Ali Al-Ansari, that Abi Salt al-Harawi said, “One day Al-Mamun told Al-Reza (s):

 

"O Abal Hassan Al-Reza (s)! Tell me, why is it that your grandfather Ali - the Commander of the Faithful (s) became the one to divide up Paradise and Hell. What is meant by this? I have thought a lot about this." Then Al-Reza (s) told him, Has it not been narrated by your father, on the authority of your forefathers, on the authority of Abdullah ibn Abbas to have said that he had heard God’s Prophet (s) say, "Liking Ali is the same as faith, and despising him is the same as Kufr (disbelief)." Al-Mamun said, "Yes." Then Al-Reza (s) added, “Therefore, he is the one who divides up Paradise and Hell as it is loving him which equals faith, and despising him which equals atheism.” Then Al-Ma’mun said, "O Abal Hassan (Al-Reza)! May God not let me live after you! I testify that you are the inheritor of the knowledge of God’s Prophet (s)."

 

Abi Salt (al-Harawi) added, "When Al-Reza (s) returned home, I went to see him (s) and said, “O son of God’s Prophet! How nice did you respond to al-Mamun's question!" Al-Reza (s) said, "O Aba Salt! I answered him using the same way that he was reasoning. I heard my father (s) narrate on the authority of his forefathers (s), on the authority of Ali (s) that Gods Prophet (s) told him, "O Ali! You are the one to divide up Paradise and Fire on the Resurrection Day. You will tell the fire, this is for Me (leave it) and this is for You (take it)."

 

[source: Uyun al-Akhbar Al-Reza, Chapter. 32, Hadees. 30]

 

 

This narration is a great piece of show of Hikmat by Imam Ali bin Musa Al-Reza (as).

Such narration can come only from a true successor of Prophet Muhammad (sa).

The last piece of narration is in direct conformity with the narration of Prophet Muhammat (saww) as below:

 

قال حدثني المظفر بن محمد الوراق قال حدثنا أبو علي محمد بن همام قال حدثنا أبو سعيد الحسن بن زكريا البصري قال حدثنا عمر بن المختار قال حدثنا أبو محمد البرسي عن النضر بن سويد عن عبد الله بن مسكان عن أبي بصير عن أبي جعفر محمد الباقر عن آبائه ع قال قال رسول الله ص كيف بك يا علي إذا وقفت على شفير جهنم و قد مد الصراط و قيل للناس جوزوا و قلت لجهنم هذا لي و هذا لك فقال علي ع يا رسول الله و من أولئك قال أولئك شيعتك معك حيث كنت

 

 

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Edited June 17, 2013 by muhibb-ali

[abuzahra]

Interestingly, this was the same reasoning used by Ibn Hanbal to explain the validity of this very same narration to one of his students!

[khamosh21]

as great as this hadith is, it's primary use has been to make shias feel better and safe about their beliefs, and thus to feed their egos, rather than actually trying to follow the path.

[hm786110]

I agree with Khamosh on this. We Shias always seem to be preoccupied with these types of Hadith as it restores our pride and faith in being Shia. The problem is we get caught up in the rhetoric and forget the true purpose of our faith. If just "loving" Ali (as) = faith, then we should start queuing behind the Ismailis :)

[IgnoranceDiffers4rmLogic]

@hm786110 and @Khamosh21....are you two serious...lolol funny enough I think both of you are not Shia...however, what do you mean that to "Make shias feel better and safe"...if you have forgotten our faith is being obidient to Allah SWT...when we pray we pray to Allah SWT....Loving Ali has got nothing to do with our obidience to Allah, we naturally Love Ali because the Prophet said:

 

Loving Ali is like Loving ME, and he Who loves me Loves Allah

Hateing Ali is like Hateing ME, and he Who hates me hates Allah

 

Loving Ali, is just one way we draw closer to the Prophets Sunnah which inturn Allows us to get Closer to Allah SWT..

 

what are both of you talking about...it has no ground's...lol your just saying that All Shia's do is Love Ali...

 

are you shia?

Edited June 19, 2013 by IgnoranceDiffers4rmLogic

[Crescent]

Interestingly, this was the same reasoning used by Ibn Hanbal to explain the validity of this very same narration to one of his students!

 

(salam)

 

I have heard this as well in a lecture, but I haven't seen the source. Do you know where I can find it? I would love to read it for myself.

Edited June 19, 2013 by Crescent

[khamosh21]

@hm786110 and @Khamosh21....are you two serious...lolol funny enough I think both of you are not Shia...however, what do you mean that to "Make shias feel better and safe"...if you have forgotten our faith is being obidient to Allah SWT...when we pray we pray to Allah SWT....Loving Ali has got nothing to do with our obidience to Allah, we naturally Love Ali because the Prophet said:

 

Loving Ali is like Loving ME, and he Who loves me Loves Allah

Hateing Ali is like Hateing ME, and he Who hates me hates Allah

 

Loving Ali, is just one way we draw closer to the Prophets Sunnah which inturn Allows us to get Closer to Allah SWT..

 

what are both of you talking about...it has no ground's...lol your just saying that All Shia's do is Love Ali...

 

are you shia?

 

I think we might be trying to say the same thing, but in very different ways. Many shias believe that their love of Imam Ali is enough to get them into heaven, skipping all the obedience parts. They use these type of hadiths to convince themselves of this. They fail to recognize that loving Imam Ali = obedience to Allah swt. That was my point.

[hm786110]

Some shias are preoccupied with the "feel good factor" of hearing about all the merits of loving imam Ali (as) etc... They are normally the ones who do the loudest nare-hydari's in the masjid. But I've seen some of these people outside the mosque in the way they treat other people and it is truly shocking.

Little do they realize that to love him is to follow him. It's this last part I feel is lacking in most people. My question is if "loving" Imam Ali is everything then we should start following the Ismailis and other Shia sects that claim to love him a lot more. I think most would agree that nothing was more important to Imam Ali (as) than Salat. Even if we took our salat 10% as seriously as imam Ali (as) did then we would have every right to say we are the lovers of the imam.

[abuzahra]

(salam)

 

I have heard this as well in a lecture, but I haven't seen the source. Do you know where I can find it? I would love to read it for myself.

 

قای احمد بن حنبل یکی از امامان اربعه اهل سنت است.اهل سنت در فقه 4 مجتهد مطلق دارند.ا-مالک بن انس(امام مالکی ها) 2-ابوحنیفه(امام احناف) 3-محمد بن ادریس شافعی(امام شافعی ها) 4-احمد بن حنبل(امام حنبلی ها)

حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الحسين بْن عُمَرَ بْنِ الحسن القاضي الأشناني حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاق بْن الحسن الحربي قَالَ: حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن منصور الطوسي قَالَ: سمعت أَحْمَد بن حنبل يقول ما روي لأحد من الفضائل أكثر مما روى لعلي بن أبي طالب.

قال وسمعت مُحَمَّد بْن منصور يقول كنا عند أَحْمَد بْن حَنْبَل فقال: له رجل يا أبا عَبْد اللَّه ما تقول فِي هذا الحديث الذي يروي أن عليا قَالَ: " أنا قسيم النار " فقال: وما تنكرون من ذا أليس روينا أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَ(آله و)سَلَّمَ - قَالَ لعلي: " لا يحبك إلا مؤمن ولا يبغضك إلا منافق " قلنا بلى قَالَ: فأين المؤمن قلنا فِي الجنة قَالَ: وأين المنافق قلنا فِي النار قَالَ: فعلي قسيم النار.

ج 1 ص 319 و ص 320

الكتاب: طبقات الحنابلة

المؤلف: أبو الحسين ابن أبي يعلى، محمد بن محمد (المتوفى: 526هـ)

المحقق: محمد حامد الفقي

الناشر: دار المعرفة - بيروت

عدد الأجزاء: 2

Edited June 20, 2013 by abuzahra

[Crescent]

 

قای احمد بن حنبل یکی از امامان اربعه اهل سنت است.اهل سنت در فقه 4 مجتهد مطلق دارند.ا-مالک بن انس(امام مالکی ها) 2-ابوحنیفه(امام احناف) 3-محمد بن ادریس شافعی(امام شافعی ها) 4-احمد بن حنبل(امام حنبلی ها)

حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الحسين بْن عُمَرَ بْنِ الحسن القاضي الأشناني حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاق بْن الحسن الحربي قَالَ: حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن منصور الطوسي قَالَ: سمعت أَحْمَد بن حنبل يقول ما روي لأحد من الفضائل أكثر مما روى لعلي بن أبي طالب.

قال وسمعت مُحَمَّد بْن منصور يقول كنا عند أَحْمَد بْن حَنْبَل فقال: له رجل يا أبا عَبْد اللَّه ما تقول فِي هذا الحديث الذي يروي أن عليا قَالَ: " أنا قسيم النار " فقال: وما تنكرون من ذا أليس روينا أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَ(آله و)سَلَّمَ - قَالَ لعلي: " لا يحبك إلا مؤمن ولا يبغضك إلا منافق " قلنا بلى قَالَ: فأين المؤمن قلنا فِي الجنة قَالَ: وأين المنافق قلنا فِي النار قَالَ: فعلي قسيم النار.

ج 1 ص 319 و ص 320

الكتاب: طبقات الحنابلة

المؤلف: أبو الحسين ابن أبي يعلى، محمد بن محمد (المتوفى: 526هـ)

المحقق: محمد حامد الفقي

الناشر: دار المعرفة - بيروت

عدد الأجزاء: 2

 

 

Thank you brother, but unfortunately, the chain is weak.