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How can one be scared of death when one has wilayat of Maula Ali (as)?

how do you know you have wilayat of Imam Ali?

gave you ever read what are the requirements of being a shia? the hadeeth from imam Jafar Sadiq?

the conditions are very extreme, if there is one person who is more pious then you then you are not a shia, you must be the most pious of your nation

let alone other things not mentioned, problem is that people THINK they have these things, but unfortunately they will find nothing but disappointment, and in fact this THOUGHT worked against them, because while they were thinking they are safe, they never had the chance to better them selves and work on things

the shaitaan has filled the ears of people

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What I meant was that if a person believes in the wilayat (authority) of the twelve Imams (as) & on the side is fulfilling his duties to Allah (swt) then this person should have nothing to fear.

Yes I have read the requirments of being a shia.

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What I meant was that if a person believes in the wilayat (authority) of the twelve Imams (as) & on the side is fulfilling his duties to Allah (swt) then this person should have nothing to fear.

Yes I have read the requirments of being a shia.

i have seen the grave, and NOTHING absolutely NOTHING will help you in it, except one thing

complete severance FROM THIS LIFE and any atoms weight of LOVE for dunya is enough to cause you perdition and obliteration in the grave

it is one of the HARDEST things to achieve, and NO WILAYET or anything else will help you except this , and you can believe anything you want

in fact the people will see the status of Imam Hussein in their grave, or even upon death, and when they see this its a sign that it is TOO LATE and that you are screwed

intercession on judgement day is another story, but in the grave, if you have not achieved complete yaqeen you are doomed, and will endure great punishment

there is many hadiths about this from the Imams themselves such as the famous one

"we fear for our shia during the horrors of the grave and barzakh"

and other hadith such as "only a very few will be saved from the horrors of the grave"

and from Imam Ali "God relases 72 snakes in the persons grave that if one of them were to get out , all the greenery of the earth would disappear"

when it comes tot he grave we are screwed and i dont even know how we are going to endure it or deal with it

a famous hadith about the time of Salman Al Farsi's death where he talks to a person in the grave, the person says that it would have been easier to endure in this life , somebody to cut his flesh from his bone piece by piece then the difficulties of the grave and death

so good luck to your "welayet of Ali" that is pure ignorance what you have

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Yukapuka you need to chill out a little..we even have many ahadith that are quite opposite in nature to the ahadith you have quoted. You are wrong, Wilayat will definitely help as long as the person has been sincere throughout his life.

Without believing in the wilayat of the Imams (as) a persons 'Ibadat & deeds are useless.

Ya Ali!

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Yukapuka, whilst you are correct and this is beyond serious, the meaning of Islam is PEACE in submission to Allah SWT. We are all sinners, correct, but Allah SWT does not want us to lose hope. Your words are too strong - which is correct in reflecting the gravity of the situation, but you should also remember it could impact people negatively. Allah SWT does not want us to despair, he wants us to have hope and believe in His mercy and forgiveness!

Alhamdulilah, it is brilliant that you take it so seriously and may Allah reward you and spare you pain where possible, but don't scare people away from truth. The truth is scary, but I think you're going about it the wrong way. We SHOULD be fearful and do the best we can, but not lose hope!

Salaam

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For sinners: At the time of death you see a SC mod in flesh right before you, furiously waving the flaming banning stick at you in anger, the ugliness of it makes you lose your spirit. Then a frustrated chat mod bubbles up from under your bed and suspends your account and you die. Then in grave you see SC admins who ask you about rijalism and fill your grave with red flames, making you writhe in agony, unless you're a rijalist. Then they leave you be and members of KFC come in the shapes of snakes lead by a huge snake with the head of Farid who strikes at you and unless you had brown nosed a SC admin in life they don't intervene. Then the Farid look alike serpent keeps biting you forever. The smaller snakes who are looks alike of Wahabis-in-Taqayya keep asking you questions about hadith and if you can't answer then they will turn you into a pin cushion with their stings.

While only a handful (which certainly don't include any of us) are granted a warm welcome, feel joy and happiness.

Wallahu Aalim.

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For sinners: At the time of death you see a SC mod in flesh right before you, furiously waving the flaming banning stick at you in anger, the ugliness of it makes you lose your spirit. Then a frustrated chat mod bubbles up from under your bed and suspends your account and you die. Then in grave you see SC admins who ask you about rijalism and fill your grave with red flames, making you writhe in agony, unless you're a rijalist. Then they leave you be and members of KFC come in the shapes of snakes lead by a huge snake with the head of Farid who strikes at you and unless you had brown nosed a SC admin in life they don't intervene. Then the Farid look alike serpent keeps biting you forever. The smaller snakes who are looks alike of Wahabis-in-Taqayya keep asking you questions about hadith and if you can't answer then they will turn you into a pin cushion with their stings.

While only a handful (which certainly don't include any of us) are granted a warm welcome, feel joy and happiness.

Wallahu Aalim.

I pronounce this: bida.

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Maybe listen to some lectures is better than asking it here: Life after Death and the Hereafter - By Sheikh Bahmanpour

Moreover, what I said was not deluting the people on the website. On these Qur'anic verses:

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

I swear by the angels who violently pull out the souls of the wicked, (79:1)

And by those who gently draw out the souls of the blessed, (79:2)

Ay. Makarem Shirazi says the following about these verses:

The object of the above swears are five important matters with the aim of proving the certainty of Resurrection Day. The five swears will lead to the conclution in verse No. 6 and those following it.

The expounders of Quran differ as to the five swears that, to what do they refer? The general opinion among the commentators is that they refer to the angels. The first point referred to in the above passage is the souls of the wicked, and that they are pulled out hardly from their body when they die. This is probably because of their fervent affection to the enjoymenys of this feeling material world. To join a heart with a thing or another heart, is sweet and easy; but separation of friends and dearers and nearers is one of the most distressful circumstances of our life.

The second point is that in contrast with the wicked, the souls of the righteous will be drawn out gently, and then respectfully taken to their new life. They themselves too, are prepared for the transfer and have no much affections behind them. In fact, death for them is a release from a dark prison which is their body and this material world.

So again, the truth lies in the middle between what some members have stated. Moreover, please don't discuss who are the wicked and the blessed because as I see this discussion, it seems there will be many different answers, and we should refer to tafseers by Grand Ayatollahs instead. (wasalam)

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For sinners: At the time of death you see a SC mod in flesh right before you, furiously waving the flaming banning stick at you in anger, the ugliness of it makes you lose your spirit. Then a frustrated chat mod bubbles up from under your bed and suspends your account and you die. Then in grave you see SC admins who ask you about rijalism and fill your grave with red flames, making you writhe in agony, unless you're a rijalist. Then they leave you be and members of KFC come in the shapes of snakes lead by a huge snake with the head of Farid who strikes at you and unless you had brown nosed a SC admin in life they don't intervene. Then the Farid look alike serpent keeps biting you forever. The smaller snakes who are looks alike of Wahabis-in-Taqayya keep asking you questions about hadith and if you can't answer then they will turn you into a pin cushion with their stings.

While only a handful (which certainly don't include any of us) are granted a warm welcome, feel joy and happiness.

Wallahu Aalim.

Looooooooooooooool.....hahahahaha

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i have seen the grave, and NOTHING absolutely NOTHING will help you in it, except one thing

complete severance FROM THIS LIFE and any atoms weight of LOVE for dunya is enough to cause you perdition and obliteration in the grave

it is one of the HARDEST things to achieve, and NO WILAYET or anything else will help you except this , and you can believe anything you want

in fact the people will see the status of Imam Hussein in their grave, or even upon death, and when they see this its a sign that it is TOO LATE and that you are screwed

intercession on judgement day is another story, but in the grave, if you have not achieved complete yaqeen you are doomed, and will endure great punishment

there is many hadiths about this from the Imams themselves such as the famous one

"we fear for our shia during the horrors of the grave and barzakh"

and other hadith such as "only a very few will be saved from the horrors of the grave"

and from Imam Ali "God relases 72 snakes in the persons grave that if one of them were to get out , all the greenery of the earth would disappear"

when it comes tot he grave we are screwed and i dont even know how we are going to endure it or deal with it

a famous hadith about the time of Salman Al Farsi's death where he talks to a person in the grave, the person says that it would have been easier to endure in this life , somebody to cut his flesh from his bone piece by piece then the difficulties of the grave and death

so good luck to your "welayet of Ali" that is pure ignorance what you have

 

 

 

It is not good to be so sure of your words. There are many hadiths giving glad tidings for the one who has wilayat of Ali. How can you say "No wilayat or anything will help you", and with so much boldness you have said "welyayat of Ali, that is pure ignorance". If you are sure of this, then we would like to see proof from the hadith. Dont you think it is possible that other brothers here might be more pious and better prepared than you are and they have an understanding you dont. Is it not possible that they might be more humble in their words than you, so its not good to point a finger at someone. One must try to be humble, he/she must not think that everything he believes or says is right and others are not, unless you have proof and logic to back it up. I am not against the hadiths you have quoted, no one should go against it, since they are related from the infalliables, but what you have said regarding wilayat goes against other hadiths. You cannot reach the prophet unless you reach Ali ibn Abi Talib. So a person who has reached Ali, has he not reached the Prophet, and how can someone reach Ali if he does not have piety, and other important characteristics.

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Hujjatul Islam Najafi Quchani actually says that Wilayat Imam Ali (as) helps in the grave, as well as in the Hereafter. Cool read, as he takes the reader on a journey as if he or she were already dead and shows the stages of Barzakh based on ahadith ( and I think Qur'an also)

 

http://www.followislam.net/books/journey/index.htm

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