Jump to content
Guests can now reply in ALL forum topics (No registration required!) ×
Guests can now reply in ALL forum topics (No registration required!)
In the Name of God بسم الله
Sign in to follow this  
wonderer

Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

Nice Article. I agree with treating women with respect and dignity. But dunno about the internet-chatting issue, things have changed now. You can use it in a good way, or as the article says, stalking people and watching wierd stuff.

"If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Hey men and women have always been like this. Not only just men of this generation, c'mon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bigoted load of garbage. Stopped reading a few paragraphs in, not worthy of a lengthy response.

Men are men and women and women, the gender roles have just being distorted, but that's hardly the fault of the peasant man or woman.

Edited by dfdfRandolphdfdf

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I agree with treating women with respect and dignity.

Depends on the woman, actually. The new-age women brainwashed by greedy corporations and media [who are more bamboozled no matter what he whined about teenage---oops, I mean, "MALES"], well, don't even get me started. To say the least, they don't deserve our respect, not even our attention. However, there are still very few genuine ladies among us, they deserve respect and dignity.

Edited by The Exalted One

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shaming tactic and more of it, when will we stop bashing men? A "real" man is certainly not someone defined by others, rather he makes himself what he wants, not giving into pressure. Anyways, I prefer my toys over women. Most women are not good and I rather avoid them. Games, manipulations and drama, sometimes the act playing on for many years before they show their true colours. I am sure there are some good women out there, but very few. Finding one would be like winning a lottery. Not worth the risk and I guess men are waking up to that reality and going their own way. Also, men should be selfish. No one else is looking out for their interest. To women, men are object of utility, after the use is extracted, they are useless and will be disposed off. Women probably settle for fools because he is easily manipulated so its by choice.

Conviently the writer doesn't realise that women are doing some of the exact same things as mentioned by him.

How about an article: where are the real women? :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This guy made Mother Theresa sound like manliest macho-man who ever lived.

Games, manipulations and drama, sometimes the act playing on for many years before they show their true colours.

And coming from experience, the only pragmatic way to deter these disgraceful acts is turning the tables with some ounce of aggression. Which he bashed, coincidence?

This has to be the funniest article one can come across. Don't even want to nit-pit the hell out of it. To the fellow males who come across this topic, don't let it bamboozle you. Ignore the insults, wall-of-text, massive warcabulary, it's a gift-wrapped piece of [Edited Out].

Edited by The Exalted One

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Irony -re posted by a female.

I had a good reply, but as I am "lazy" , the greatness of the internet allowed me to click on the link and read the replies of other people. Far more interesting.

"Woody Allen "Nostalgia is denial - denial of the painful present... the name for this denial is golden age thinking - the erroneous notion that a different time period is better than the one ones living in - its a flaw in the romantic imagination of those people who find it difficult to cope with the present."

"Real men, of course, blog about their feelings."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Even animals aren't animals anymore. I saw a rooster mating raping a peking duck just now, so I ordered it to be served on my dinner table to find out more about it.

I'm planning my menu for tomorrow....how was the rooster prepared?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Excellent article, so true. Fighting on the internet is something that I do a lot, so I need to think about it. I agree, real men like this are very rare. I have seen only one in my life.

Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to [Edited Out] — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities.

This is the biggest problem in my life.

Edited by Mokhtar2012

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm planning my menu for tomorrow....how was the rooster prepared?

Sadly, there was already chicken meat present for the night so I guess it wasn't its time. Today, with my sweet heart mallard duck and her oppressed little hubby looking on, I intend to slaughter it myself right beside their pond with "Who did that to you?" playing on the Ipod. Next it will end up in the pressure cooker for a good while since all these real breed chicken have quite resilient meat that takes time to cook. That or marinade it with lots of lemon and salt for a little bbq. The bones, extra organs and feet will go to my faithful dogs. ^^^

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shaming tactic and more of it, when will we stop bashing men? A "real" man is certainly not someone defined by others, rather he makes himself what he wants, not giving into pressure. Anyways, I prefer my toys over women.

You need to find yourself a girl, bro

Edited by Ali94

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Men are becoming more like women because women strive to become more like men, and have been doing so ever since the feminist movement was diluted and corrupted.

I'm all for feminism, in its natural and pure form though. Our Prophets (as) and Imams (as) were the first feminists in the unadulterated form of the word: giving women their due rights. Islam brought women rights and respect that they nor any others had ever witnessed before. The "feminism" of today is complete garbage. Actually, not only is it garbage, it is destroying the fabric of society from the within, thus eventually leading to its destruction, as we are all witness to today.

By the way, I didn't read the article.

Wasalaam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You need to find yourself a girl, bro

Nope. No need at all. :D

I'm all for feminism

I am all for feminism too! For once men can see the "real" women and it is all thanks to feminism. B)

Edited by Baka

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shaming tactic and more of it, when will we stop bashing men? A "real" man is certainly not someone defined by others, rather he makes himself what he wants, not giving into pressure. Anyways, I prefer my toys over women. Most women are not good and I rather avoid them. Games, manipulations and drama, sometimes the act playing on for many years before they show their true colours. I am sure there are some good women out there, but very few. Finding one would be like winning a lottery. Not worth the risk and I guess men are waking up to that reality and going their own way. Also, men should be selfish. No one else is looking out for their interest. To women, men are object of utility, after the use is extracted, they are useless and will be disposed off. Women probably settle for fools because he is easily manipulated so its by choice.

Conviently the writer doesn't realise that women are doing some of the exact same things as mentioned by him.

How about an article: where are the real women? :)

AsalamOalykom, 

 

Sorry I think you’re biased in this case, in my life time I have only seen obedient wives, sisters, and daughters even in western countries. Men still have that dominance in our society whether it’s the father, brother or husband. However all of the above points that you have mentioned as traits of a women are genuinely traits of men. You cannot judge all women by observing minority. 

With discontent, yet I agree with the article.

 

Kindest Regards…

Allah hafiz

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

... Is this guy serious?

Don't even know where to start with here. He is making it sounds like being manly should revolve around what's convenient to women and society.

 

Depends on the woman, actually. The new-age women brainwashed by greedy corporations and media [who are more bamboozled no matter what he whined about teenage---oops, I mean, "MALES"], well, don't even get me started. To say the least, they don't deserve our respect, not even our attention. However, there are still very few genuine ladies among us, they deserve respect and dignity.

 

The exalted one, I like how you get offended at the mere thought of being told 'there are no real men', and yet have no hesitation on blaming it on 'the women', and that any problems that exist are because of ' most women'

 

I thought the article was very true and well reflected. There are many men who are like this in this day and age, not EVERY MAN, but some men. I can see it from many of my friend's spouses. But that doesnt mean there arent equally flawed women who 'pose provacotively on instagram' etc...

 

It is a both sided issue, but I am finding that for some reason men of this generation tend to be like this a lot more. This is actually a discussion that came up in my community recently and 99% of people (men and women alike) agreed that it is a problem. (though note these werent the 'young men and women' refered to above but the older men and women - parents / grand parents)

Men are becoming more like women because women strive to become more like men, and have been doing so ever since the feminist movement was diluted and corrupted.

I'm all for feminism, in its natural and pure form though. Our Prophets (as) and Imams (as) were the first feminists in the unadulterated form of the word: giving women their due rights. Islam brought women rights and respect that they nor any others had ever witnessed before. The "feminism" of today is complete garbage. Actually, not only is it garbage, it is destroying the fabric of society from the within, thus eventually leading to its destruction, as we are all witness to today.

By the way, I didn't read the article.

Wasalaam

 

This is an interesting point. What do you define as the true or 'correct' feminism...and how is it different from your perception of 'modern feminism'

 

How are women trying to be more like men? Is it the fact that they want to be educated? Or is it because they want a career? Is that not the 'correct' form of feminism? Or are you reffering to something else?

 

I am genuinly curious :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

just came across this article, and thought some of you might appreciate it >>

Why Men Aren’t Really Men Anymore

There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number. What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character. Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction. This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.

However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online. People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.

Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy.

Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.

If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.

We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to [Edited Out] — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.

How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.

It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.

Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.

source: http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/

I agree, of course. However, this article is incomplete; the cause is not mentioned, namely the media. You cannot possibly grow up to be a man when your knowledge of life comes from the horrible, absolutely horrible, figures of the media. And, guess what, you cannot possibly grow up to be a woman as well in this case.

Do you have any idea how women are not how they used to be as well nowadays? I live in a problematic neighborhood, I know so many females that are everything but what they used to be, that I started to think that that's all there is to it, but I changed my mind because I know that there are plenty of decent women out there as well.

Not all males are like the boys from One Direction or the so-called rappers, there are plenty of real manly men out there. And not all females are like Kim Kardashian, there are plenty of real women with high self-esteem out there as well. Be the person you wish to meet; the rest doesn't matter.

In any case, times are getting worse, as the prophets predicted.

 

Edited by Baldwin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Assalamu alaikum

Not only boys are bad in this time, also many girls/womens are bad and not femal like anymore. People telling them it's freedom and they believe. They wear really worse clothes, without knowing that they are used like sex-symbols. They go to work and think of their career without knowing that they disregard their family and their husbands. Sometimes those womens are the reason why mens are bad. Those females make the life of boys/mens hard and uncontrollable.

About the PC, social life and all those technical things: All people use it a lot, not only males. I see kids who also use it really lot and who had better technic then me -.-

They use it and forgtt the world around them. People walk (here) in streets or sitting in the train, bus,... And many of them sitting on their smartphones, mobiles,... They disregard their world and their sociaty. This is the time now... Sometimes I think this inventions are only created to make the people admits that they forgett and disregard the world and the sociaty. Many people are lonly and really less people see them and care for them.

This is the new generation... :(

Wassalam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Assalamu alaikum

Not only boys are bad in this time, also many girls/womens are bad and not femal like anymore. People telling them it's freedom and they believe. They wear really worse clothes, without knowing that they are used like sex-symbols. They go to work and think of their career without knowing that they disregard their family and their husbands. Sometimes those womens are the reason why mens are bad. Those females make the life of boys/mens hard and uncontrollable.

About the PC, social life and all those technical things: All people use it a lot, not only males. I see kids who also use it really lot and who had better technic then me -.-

They use it and forgtt the world around them. People walk (here) in streets or sitting in the train, bus,... And many of them sitting on their smartphones, mobiles,... They disregard their world and their sociaty. This is the time now... Sometimes I think this inventions are only created to make the people admits that they forgett and disregard the world and the sociaty. Many people are lonly and really less people see them and care for them.

This is the new generation... :(

Wassalam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...