Soldier Beheaded In London

[kim.tinkerbell]

The media has it's eyes on muslims and look at these so called muslims. You want too fight go to a battle and fight. And that dog apologies that woman had to see this, what he doesnt know is his salafi kind are killed not just men and woman but kids too. Now look at the damage you salafi are doing. Now go on channel four you will see the hunt for britsh sex gangs, and guss whos back on tv yes soo called muslims raping 14 year olds, one girl passed down to 72 men....

Sad fact all( salafi,wahabi what not) these peiple preaching about bloody islam on.streets of london dont have a flying clue what there on about. Yes you salafis should be died and if this goverement had any brains they wouldnt of been supporting people like you in syria. But yeah they must want salafis to prove their point " muslims are killers,rapist and pedios".

Muslim this muslim that, these people are a danager in our countries too but how many brits know that....

Now there well be more people like this guy speaking and most likely getting more support thinking that all muslims are the same...¿

http://youtu.be/a7cmijwvpD4

Rip the soilder....

Edited May 25, 2013 by Naz_

[Jamal Al Hasan]

Rip the soilder....

TO HELL WITH THE SOLDIER. THE ONLY THING WRONG WAS THAT HE WASN'T KILLED IN COMBAT.

Edited May 24, 2013 by Jamal Al Hasan

[Marbles]

MI5 asked Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo if he wanted to work for them about six months before the killing, a childhood friend has said.

Abu Nusaybah told BBC Newsnight his friend - one of two men arrested after Drummer Lee Rigby's murder in south-east London on Wednesday - had rejected the approach from the security service.

The BBC could not obtain any confirmation from Whitehall sources.

Abu Nusaybah was arrested at the BBC after giving the interview. LINK

[neol]

The action of Michael Adebolajo and Anders Brevik are identical they are both deluded and misguided.

They both killed people for their own selfish reasons, and boosted about their atrocious actions. and cannot escape devine justice.

Edited May 25, 2013 by neol

[shiasoldier786]

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has quoted the Koran to condemn the killing of a soldier in Woolwich, south-east London.

Speaking at a community event in north London, Mr Clegg said: "If anyone slays a human being, it shall be as though he killed all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind

The specially-organised gathering of faith and community leaders was held in Islington in reaction to the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby on Wednesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22655020

[Haydar Husayn]

I really wonder how much it helps to have non-Muslim politicians going on about how Islam is a religion of peace, and quoting verses of the Qur'an. They just come across as apologists for a religion they know nothing about. Because let's face it, they are in no position to know what Islam actually teaches on these matters. What is really needed is for credible Muslim scholars to provide a refutation for the Qur'an and Sunnah of these actions.

After all, Michael Adebolajo also referenced the Qur'an after what he did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrtaHkyw5w

(starting from around 1:10)

[Marbles]

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has quoted the Koran to condemn the killing of a soldier in Woolwich, south-east London.

Speaking at a community event in north London, Mr Clegg said: "If anyone slays a human being, it shall be as though he killed all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind

The specially-organised gathering of faith and community leaders was held in Islington in reaction to the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby on Wednesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22655020

This quoting, excusing, defending the Muslim community has the opposite effect, in my opinion.

The more their leaders quote the Quran or Muslim organisations/leaders, and the more effort they make to absolve the Muslim community as a whole of this murder, the more they end up legitimising the anti-Muslim discourse prevalent in the media and the society at large.

This whole discourse of going-on-the-defensive, either by Muslims themselves or by the national leaders, should be done away with. Muslims as a community aren't responsible for the actions of the few fanatics and therefore must not go on the defensive and carry on with their normal lives.

Just condemn the killers with neutral language without resorting to group-based apologiticism. Everyone will get the message if Muslims did that.

[*Sayyeda*]

(salam)

Anjem Choudray gives his two cents on the Woolwich incident

[Ruq]

^ i really cant bring myself to press play on that >.<

[Haydar Husayn]

(salam)

Anjem Choudray gives his two cents on the Woolwich incident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElGzbGqK0I

[*Sayyeda*]

(salam)

^ i really cant bring myself to press play on that >.<

I don't blame you, in short, he admitted to knowing the attacker from a few years ago and said he was "non violent, calm and a family man and showed concern by apologizing to women and children who were there"

He also shamelessly used this as an opportunity to bash the UK foreign policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElGzbGqK0I

Yup, you can tell a lot about a person by the people who follow him.

[Maryaam]

Why is this guy given airtime?

He gets top level free publicity. He produces nothing of value; in fact, just the opposite - young wannabe Muslim extremists are able to listen to him and his rants by the constant publicity he receives. Non Muslims are given the wrong message of Islam through his ugly words and messages and demonstrations - inciting even more anti-Islam sentiment. He appears to have ongoing popularity of viewers (whether they love him or hate him - however, though, ultimately, for his agenda, all publicity is good publicity) through BBC international exposure.

Is this country [britain] mad? Why is Anjem Choudary, whose poisonous teachings influenced the Woolwich killers, free to draw benefits and tour BBC studios spouting murderous hatred against Britain?

The 45-year-old, who is often seen talking in whispers with young acolytes at Middle Eastern cafes in London, was given a platform [again] as if he were a respected academic talking at arm’s length about Islamic extremism.

Read more:

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2UMHWkJlg

Edited May 26, 2013 by Maryaam

[GreyMatter]

What's more is that Anjum Chaudery was all into alcohol and hookers, he is still dirt low, but with the image of Islam this time around him.

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

French Soldier Stabbed In The Neck In Paris

Police in France have said they believe the stabbing of a uniformed soldier in Paris may be linked to the brutal murder of British soldier Lee Rigby in London.

The 23-year-old French soldier was in a busy underground train station in the west of the city when he was stabbed in the throat by a man believed to be of North African origin at around 6pm on Saturday.

Christophe Crepin, spokesman for the police union UNSA, said: "You don't have to be a great observer to be able to see the similarity.

"We are in a place where a soldier and an individual comes to stab ... you don't have to be a great observer to see that people are taking inspiration from acts committed abroad, to reproduce them here."

The soldier, who has not been named, was with two colleagues patrolling the business area of La Defense as part of France's Vigipirate anti-terrorist surveillance strategy when he was approached from behind and attacked with a knife or box-cutter.

After the attack, the assailant reportedly "melted into a crowd" and fled the scene.

CCTV footage of the attacker showed him as being tall and bearded, aged about 35, possibly of North African origin and wearing a white Arab-style tunic, police said.

Mr Crepin said: "We know that he is tall, athletic, we think he was wearing a white tunic and sneakers. Things are evolving ... everything has been recorded on video and we will find him."

Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, who has visited the wounded soldier in hospital, told reporters: "They tried to kill the soldier because he was a soldier."

Mr Le Drian, who said the man was in a stable condition, vowed to continue France's "implacable" fight against terrorism.

The stabbing came three days after Drummer Rigby was hacked to death on a street in Woolwich in broad daylight in a suspected terrorist attack that has raised fears of potential copycat strikes.

Interior Minister Manuel Valls told France 2 television: "There are elements - the sudden violence of the attack - that could lead one to believe there might be a comparison with what happened in London. But at this point, honestly, let us be prudent."

French President Francois Hollande said authorities were investigating all possibilities at this early stage of the investigation. "There could be a link, but we will look at all the elements," he said.

French security forces have been on heightened alert since their country launched a military intervention in the African nation of Mali in January to regain territory seized by Islamic radicals.

Earlier this month, Mr Hollande said France was taking seriously a call by al Qaeda's north African wing for Muslims worldwide to launch attacks against the country's interests over its military operation in Mali.

Last year, three French paratroopers were killed by a man police described as a French-born Islamic extremist who then went on to strike a Jewish school in the south of France, killing four more people.

http://news.sky.com/story/1095605/french-soldier-stabbed-in-the-neck-in-paris

[Jaane Rabb]

Level of hate crime online is terrible with people calling for mosques to be burnt and for Islam to be kicked out of the country

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2245348/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2243854/pg3

Edited May 28, 2013 by Jaane Ya Ali

[Maryaam]

People are trying to work together

We should focus on these attempts and support them.

[haideriam]

(bismillah)

(salam)

how can the british still supply arms to the sons of hind (heart/liver eater) after all this still baffles me and should all others around britain

(wasalam)

[peace seeker]

well they put the wahabis into place didn't they ( Mr. Lawrence of Saudi Arabia ) ? and the zionists too ( Mr Balfour ). and they were also crusaders in their history. seems they simply love promoting hypocrisy and breeding hatred and takfirism among the Abrahamic religions.

what was the saying:

to understand the present we need to understand the past?

but if they repent God will surely forgive them ..

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

[Andaros]

Salam,

http://dish.andrewsu...-britain-ctd-3/

Greenwald refuses to label the beheading in London “terrorism,” calling it just another attempt to stir paranoia against Muslims:

[T]he term at this point seems to have no function other than propagandistically and legally legitimizing the violence of western states against Muslims while delegitimizing any and all violence done in return to those states …

I really have to try restrain my anger here. First off, Glenn’s adoption of the view that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan amounted to “continuous violence by western states against Muslim civilians” seems a new step toward the memes of Islamist propaganda. Does Glenn really believe that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, however flawed, were deliberate attempts to kill Muslim civilians, in the way al Qaeda deliberately targets and kills Muslim civilians?

If he does, then I beg to differ. The reason we invaded Afghanistan was not because we decided to launch a war on Islam. It was because wealthy, Islamist, hypocritical bigots launched an unprovoked Jihadist mass murder of Western innocents from a cell based in a country run by a regime that specialized and specializes in the mass murder of other Muslims.

Before 9/11, America had saved Muslims in the Balkans from Christianist fanatics. We helped liberate Muslims in Afghanistan from Soviet oppression. We continue to give vast amounts of money to Muslim countries like Egypt, and, because of our economic development and need for oil made multi-billionaires out of Saudi clerics.

And the war against Saddam, though a criminal enterprise and strategic catastrophe, nonetheless removed one of the most vicious mass murderers of Muslims on the planet. And the sectarian murder of Muslims that followed, however the ultimate responsibility for the occupying forces, was not done by Westerners. It was done by Muslims killing Muslims. The West, moreover, is committed to removing its troops from Afghanistan by next year and is fast winding down drone strikes.

How can that legitimize a British citizen’s brutal beheading of a fellow British citizen on the streets of London? If we cannot call a man who does that in the name of God and finishes by warning his fellow citizens “You will never be safe” a terrorist, who would fit that description, apart, of course, in Glenn’s view, Barack Obama?

The barbarian with the machete was not born in a Muslim country or land. He was born in Britain, educated at Marshalls Park school in Romford and Greenwich University.

He does not have a history of concern with foreign policy – or even sensitivity toward the mass murder of Muslims. There is no record of his protest against the mass murders by the Taliban – because those kinds of murders of Muslims he approves of. He is a convert to the Sunni Islamism of Anjem Choudary, whose street thugs were involved in a melee in a London street only last week as they attacked and scuffled with Shi’a Muslims. Choudary’s group wants Sharia law imposed on the UK, a war against Shiites everywhere, the brutal subjugation of women, and suppression of every freedom Glenn cares about. The idea that this foul, religious bigotry – when it provokes its adherents to the kind of barbarism we saw two days ago – is some kind of legitimate protest against a fast-ending war is just perverse.

I want the war in Af-Pak to end. I agree that blowback is a real problem. I was horrified by the Iraq war. I remain appalled by GTMO and the legacy of torture. But I cannot defend any analysis of what happened in London as some kind of legitimate protest against Western foreign policy rather than terrorism in its most animal-like form, created and sustained entirely by religious fanaticism which would find any excuse to murder, destroy and oppress Muslims and non-Muslims in the name of God.

They did this before 9/11 and before our invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. They are doing it now in Syria in the name of the same God. These genocidal theocrats did not need to be spurred by the US and UK’s actions – although they can view those as a further inflammation. They are living out their twisted, foul faith – which requires them not merely to kill, but to hack and mutilate and dismember another human being and celebrate that fact with a glee and a pride that has absolutely nothing to do with foreign policy and everything to do with the evil lurking in the totalitarian’s soul.

I have to say I have always respected the sincerity and clarity of Greenwald’s critique of the war on terror. But his blindness to the savagery at the heart of Salafism is very hard to understand, let alone forgive.

Recent Dish coverage of the Woolwich beheading here, here, here and here.